Hi,
I have a T-Mobile MDA Pro, and am not quite satisfied with the ROM they installed.
I want to try some different ROMs, like the O2 Exec, but I want to be able to go back to the original.
How can I create a back-up of the ROM, Extended ROM, and Radio ROM that I can put back at a later date ?
I've already seen grab_it by buzz, but that only makes a .bin file and I have no idea how to put that back if I ever want to revert to this state :/
Thank you,
TB
Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
What do you do with the dump.bin file though?
Rename it to nk.nbf
Ha - that didn't work.
Did you follow the ENCODE/DECODE procedure in BUZZ's site?
Jorgee said:
Please use the SEARCH button as this has been discussed already.
ANyway to help you do the following:
1. Download the latest T-Mobile ROM (the exe file) from the XDA Dev FTP site. Then extract this to a folder, say EXPERIMENT
2. Put the BIN file there
3. Go to Buzzdev.net nad follow the procedure to ENCODE/DECODE ROM. This will change the original nk.nbf (the OS) with your BIN file. using HTC64 Extended ROM Tool.exe
4. Then just put the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe file into this directory also.
Now you have your OS backed up ready to install to a device in the EXPERIMENT directory. Now just make sure the T-Mobile ROM you downloaded has the same radio ROM. If not, download a verison with same radio rom and replace the radio_.nbf file with the downloaded version.
Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there.
Hope this helps
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Jorgee,
What you mean with:
"Backing up the ExtendedROm has to be done manually. Just transfer all contents to a alternate directory in the PC then just put it back to replace what's already there"
- What is the PPC folder where I find the content of ExtendedROM?
- How I can trasfer to PC, with ActiveSync? Sometimes I received error messages like "unable to convert file format" or something like that...
- How I can transfer back, is not the ExtendedRom locked?
Let me know...
Luca
To view the Extended ROM, just install TOTAL COMMANDER for PPC
Then in the address bar, put : "\\EXTENDED_ROM" (without the quotes)
Then you will see the contents of extended ROM.
If you want, you can copy the contents of the Extended to your SD card instead so you don't have to connect to your PC.
To unlock your extended ROM (to change/delete/edit the stuff there) you need a certain file which is in the FTP under Uploads/Universal/Tools or something to that effect.
Jorgee said:
To view the Extended ROM, just install TOTAL COMMANDER for PPC
Then in the address bar, put : "\\EXTENDED_ROM" (without the quotes)
Then you will see the contents of extended ROM.
If you want, you can copy the contents of the Extended to your SD card instead so you don't have to connect to your PC.
To unlock your extended ROM (to change/delete/edit the stuff there) you need a certain file which is in the FTP under Uploads/Universal/Tools or something to that effect.
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Hello Jorgee,
I've tried to install Total Commander on my v1640 but when I access \\EXTENDED_ROM nothing is shown...
What's missing?
Thanks
lukeduke71 said:
Hello Jorgee,
I've tried to install Total Commander on my v1640 but when I access \\EXTENDED_ROM nothing is shown...
What's missing?
Thanks
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Jorge I found the mistake, \EXTENDED_ROM is with only one back slash and not with two.
Thank you very much for your help...
Hello,
I would like to know how can I extract the .cab files from an exe file that is an application installer (the exe should be run on the PC).
I think that the active sync saves a copy of the cab files, but I am not sure. If using activesync is the only way, it's fine, but I prefer a method that does not install the software first and it does not involve activesync.
Thank you,
Eran
Well it really depends on the application, there is not always one answer that fits all things.
You can try using a program like WinRAR and right click on the PC exe, you may see an option to extract the files, if you do chances are you'll gain access to the cab files. Things like the ROM updates work this way.
Sometimes this method doesn't work. Then you may need to install the program on your PC. You'll need to look on your C drive for the folder the program creates, generally this will be with in the C:\Program Files\ folder or the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Activesync\ folder. This folder can be easy or hard to find.
Another method is to set Pocket File explorer to "Show all files" (you'll need to tap and hold on the white space at the bottom of the page, and select this option from the menu that pops up.) Then go to \My Device\Windows\AppMgr\Install\ and wait for the file to appear here when you first install it. Note that in WM5 you are generally asked if you wish to install the program, DO NOT ANSWER THIS QUESTION instead go to pocket file explorer and look at the \My Device\Windows\AppMgr\Install\ folder your cab should be here, after it is installed it will be deleted from this folder and some times cabs are partly deleted in the install process. (it maybe necessary to install two or more programs at the same time to get a working copy of your program cab file.
DAH
Dears
I want to cook a ROM for my Prophet (Jamin)
I want to delete some programs that I don't need from AKU Aserg 3.13 and Add some programs that I use them
So I download tools for cooking rom and extract the ROM to my PC...
But I don't know how can I determine the files for a program That i want to delete or ADD from ROM.
for example I want to delete Total Commander from my ROM and ADD Resco Explorer 2007 !
But I don't know which Files and DLL files are related to Total Coammander , and I have an EXE file or CAB file for Resco Explorer how can i put Resco Explorer or other program to my ROM?
Thanks for helping me.
Couple of notes:
1) There is a free tool called "Dependency walker" which will show you what DLL files a certain exe is linked to.
2) There are several apps that can unpack a cab file, some free some not just google for them.
You will have 2 problems with Resco explorer:
a) If the cab contains a setup.dll you would need to find out what that does and replicate its function or the installation will not be complete.
b) This is a commercial program so you need to find out how its registration is stored (which is not easy) and add the registration manually.
There's a tool call ssnap (system snap?) to take a snap shoot of yr PDA (registry, file systems). Then use a diff tool (beyond compare is very good but not free) to compare the before and after install (and register)
levenum said:
Couple of notes:
1) There is a free tool called "Dependency walker" which will show you what DLL files a certain exe is linked to.
2) There are several apps that can unpack a cab file, some free some not just google for them.
You will have 2 problems with Resco explorer:
a) If the cab contains a setup.dll you would need to find out what that does and replicate its function or the installation will not be complete.
b) This is a commercial program so you need to find out how its registration is stored (which is not easy) and add the registration manually.
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Thanks u for good helping.
we know that the programs in te ROMs is not sufficient so we install programs for our needs. for example Dr.YAR Bluetooth manager, SPB pocket plus , SPB Mobile shell that use storage memory for installing and can't be install correctly in Storage card, so the Storage memory will be full after installing these programe and same...
So would u plz help me to put these file to my AKU3.13 ROM ?
Thanks a lot
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
Maybe Resco Explorer or Total Commander CE will help.
if it's built in the rom, you might be unable to delete that file.
Please be more specific: which file do you wish to delete?
Maybe you'd have to recook the ROM without that file.
Regards,
EquinoXe
Things built into the rom are "READ ONLY MEMORY" therefore cannot be deleted. if the file is only marked as system and readonly though you can change its atributes using total commander. just long click on item to bring up menu and go to properties. there you need to uncheck everything and delete
I had downloaded Total Commander and installed it, the checked file attributes are 'read only' and 'in rom'; so I guess the file shall be consider undeleteable.
Now I had to learn how to recook, any good guide how can I recook the ROM that I have?
similar problem
I downloaded some software and it came up as being faulty software. The file was a zip folder titled : res_ppc-custom.icons
I tried through my windows mobile device center to uninstall it, but it was never actually installed completely in the first place.
I then tried to delete the file a few times. Once directly from my pda, once through the device center and again through my pc windows explorer. All three attempts were unsuccessful.
How can I get rid of this thing?
Thanks in advance
perhaps you may want to check if the file being accessed by other software, easiest way is to soft reset and try to delete it.
That did the trick! Thanks so much
Move files to storage card
OK I want to move some files (not ROM) in Windows and keep getting error. For example Opera.exe is not marked as anything in properties yet I can't seem to delete the file. I did copy it to my storage card without any issue but can't delete the original from Windows directory. Any suggestions since Total Commander won't delete it. Will edit registry to find it on the Storage Card.
Deleting files in Windows folder
mynullvoid said:
Hi, how can I delete a file in \Windows folder? it seems complaining that the file is in ROM, I had tried many way even using other File Explorer or via ActiveSync. None of them work.
How can I delete a file in \Windows folder in my Microsoft Windows Mobile 6?
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I have the same problem - I have colpilot.wm6ppc.cab in my Windows directory. It's 12.6mb, I don't want it, and it's taking up a lot of storage space. My phone is a T-Mobile MDA and it obviously came with CoPilot as an option, but I think it's really unfair that the cab is right there in the Windows dir and I can't get rid of it....
Any help gratefully received....
Cheers,
Ed.
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
Farmer Ted said:
The cab is cooked in as part of the rom; there's nothing you can do about it, except flash a custom rom (this is one of the main reasons people flash custom roms). Be glad it was installed as a cab and not as a full package-at least cabs are compressed are a single file.
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I think the issue is not on the files in ROM.
I have the same problem. I've copied a file under Windows folder and after that I'm unable to delete it.
Strangely I'm able to rename it, which should mean that file is not in use, however deletion is not possible.
I've used TotalCommander, the built-in Explorer and also connected the phone via ActiveSync, but still nothing happens and access seems to be denied.
The exact message is "deletion error".
Any idea?
Thanks.
Cheers...
-nOra-
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
johnylog.software said:
A very common problem with Windows explorer is reported on all Windows help forums. I've seen people complaining about problem with long path files deletion.
Some common problems with Windows Explorer people talk about:
- Doesn't allow to delete files with long path names
- Pops up error while deleting unwanted files or unnecessary files
- Errors like: Access denied, sharing violation, source in use etc.
I've found a very simple but smart solution for all these above mentioned common problems. A very simple but powerful tool to overcome these problems. Everyone who plays with the files must have this tool. Its compatible with all versions of Microsoft Windows.
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Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
djulen said:
Could you please tell us the name of this wonderfull tool, and how to have?
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Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
badbwoydes said:
Based on how he said it, I have to really wonder if he really does have such a tool...
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Use Total Commander to modify the contents of the \Windows directory.
Yes, but you won't be able to delete a ROM file anyway.
In the \Windows folder, you commonly encounter three kinds of files :
- Pure ROM files (can't be deleted nor renamed nor moved, nor even copied, but can be overwritten, consuming internal storage memory space in the process to store the new copy, that will become used instead) ;
- Files put there by installation CABs or else (can be freely deleted, renamed or moved, provided they're not currently used by a running process) ;
- Files put on top of previously existing ROM files, wearing the same name (deleting, renaming or moving them will thus make the original ROM file undertneath to reappear with its original contents and attributes).
Once you've understood that, you'll be more aware of what's cooking there.
ROM files can't even be copied, but you can use ROMExtractor to copy them elsewhere, in case you want to study them, or use them in your own ROM (useful to get up-to date versions from another HTC device to cook your own ROM).
Since ROMExtractor is a very minimalistic tool (you have to type in all the files names with their path, same for the target copy, all one by one !) manually extracting hundreds (even thousands) of files is a very tedious taks, I made a MortScript to automate the process in order to extract all those DLLs, EXEs, MUIs, etc. files that can't be directly copied from a phone's ROM.
On the other hand, you absolutely can't delete a ROM file to make room. Overwriting it with a file wearing the same name will jut result in actually adding the new file, thus consuming even more room. The new file will just be used instead of the original one (so you can still update or personalize the ROM).
As a direct consequence, the only way to get rid of unwanted ROM files or permanently replacing them with up-to-date ones is to cook a ROM and flash it to the device to replace the old one.
That's way how operating systems can become better and better, and save space at the same time.
And no, Windows Mobile isn't dead : I'm not quite finished with fixing it until it's perfect, so it's not over yet. LOL
is it possible to get a a short cut for the SD card or folders on the sd card to appear in the programs menu
i hate having to use FE to get to stuff
yes. download total commander and install it. Next navigate to /windows/start menu/programs and copy one of those shortcuts (lnk file) to a different location. Go to that location with total commander and view properties. there you can change the values to point to the file you want to launch. now copy that newly modified lnk file back to the start menu/programs folder and it will be in your all programs in TF3D. i believe there is a program you can use to jsut click an exe file and "create lnk" but im not sure what it is.