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Voicemail notification - Orange France

When I get a voicemail notification, I only get a normal text message.
Does anyone knows how to activate the voicemail icon ?
I saw threads about Orange UK, but nothing for frenchies.
Thanks

Have you tried the solution for Orange UK ?
i.e. copy in the "old" sms_providers.dll ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299072

Bonjour Gregouille
I am on Orange France network and I have been using the Orange UK tweak mentioned above and it works like a charm.
Go for it is is safe, the only thing is to make sure that you only install the certificates and copy the DLL, do NOT tweak the registry yourself.

deslando said:
Bonjour Gregouille
I am on Orange France network and I have been using the Orange UK tweak mentioned above and it works like a charm.
Go for it is is safe, the only thing is to make sure that you only install the certificates and copy the DLL, do NOT tweak the registry yourself.
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Hi
Thanks for your answer. I still get a standart text message...
Which ROM do you have ?
Thx

Have you soft-reset?
What do the text messages say?

I did soft-reset.
the message is sent from 888
and says "888" messagerie orange : 1 message

Hmmm, that just looks like a standard txt message.
The sms_providers.dll intercepts TXT messages from orange that simply say "[email protected]". The dll interpets this to turn on the VM indicator. There is a similar one for turning it off.
Do you have another phone you can try this in?
In fact, have you ever had a VM icon on this phone with Orange France?

I have ROM 3.24.0.4

Probably no Voicemail Icon in Orange(Int), except for Orange(UK)
I wonder whether Orange(FR) does support the Voicemail Indicator Icon at all, and I rather doubt they do.
Back in history, the Voicemail Indicator Icon as well as the AlternateLineService (ALS) were introduced as additional services for the then called "PCS-1800" (now better known as GSM1800) standard, in a specification call "CPHS". This is why you'd hardly find a GSM900 singleband phone supporting these features. Later it became part of the GSM-Specs and was adapted even by some traditional GSM900 providers, e.g. A1(AT).
However, not all providers support CPHS, even not all (traditional) PCS-1800 providers. For example, neither eplus(DE) nor Orange(CH) support the Voicemail Indicator Icon (as mentioned above, the network needs to send a certain message like "[email protected]" to control the icon's apperance).
As Orange(FR)/Francetelecom used to be a traditional GSM-900 provider, I hardly doubt they support any part of the CPHS specs at all. For instance, they do not offer AlternateLineService, do they? Therefore french customers will probably have to cope with traditional (anoying) SMS-Voicemail notification as the rest of the Orange world(except UK), unfortunately:-(
Cheers,
Chris

Bit in late in joining this thread, but I'm guessing it hasn't been resolved. I've just written an alternate fix for the Orange UK voicemail icon problem. It should be possible to write one for your Orange FR text messages that turns them into proper VM notifications. Let me know if you are interested, probably wouldn't take much effort at all (in theory!).
Richard.

raburton said:
Bit in late in joining this thread, but I'm guessing it hasn't been resolved. I've just written an alternate fix for the Orange UK voicemail icon problem. It should be possible to write one for your Orange FR text messages that turns them into proper VM notifications. Let me know if you are interested, probably wouldn't take much effort at all (in theory!).
Richard.
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Of course I'm interrested !
Great news... I'll send a reply to your PM

anything new here
just curious...

inte said:
just curious...
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I sent gregouille something to do what was requested. After some time I chased it up to get some feedback and he told me Orange France had changed their vm notification and so he no longer needed this fix.
rab.

Hi
raburton said:
Bit in late in joining this thread, but I'm guessing it hasn't been resolved. I've just written an alternate fix for the Orange UK voicemail icon problem. It should be possible to write one for your Orange FR text messages that turns them into proper VM notifications. Let me know if you are interested, probably wouldn't take much effort at all (in theory!).
Richard.
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I'm using a Touch Diamond with mexican provider TELCEL. Any time I call my voice mail, just after I hangup, I receive a SMS from "TELCEL" with apparently no text (there may be an invisible control character), and the VM icon is never cleared.
I wonder if a fix could be done for the Diamond and Telcel like the one you did.
Thanks for any comments.
Carlos

In theory yes, this should be possible. Interesting that your VM light comes on by some method, but does not go off by the same.
Could you export the text message (with PIM Backup or similar) to find out if there are are any hidden characters in it. Otherwise may need to send you a version that will dump the text out to a file or something.
At the moment I'm in heavy revision mode for some important exams in February, so I can't promise to look at this till then, but there is a good chance I'll get 5 minutes and need a break from the study.
Richard.

Hi Richard
raburton said:
Could you export the text message (with PIM Backup or similar) to find out if there are are any hidden characters in it. Otherwise may need to send you a version that will dump the text out to a file or something.
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I'm attaching a file with 3 messages, exported with PIMBackup.
I received the first one after just calling the voicemail from the cellphone to check it was empty.
The second one after leaving a voice mail from another phone (I received these messages in my previous non-windows phone).
The third one arrived after calling the voice mail from the cellphone to delete the message.
raburton said:
In theory yes, this should be possible. Interesting that your VM light comes on by some method, but does not go off by the same.
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Yes, I cleared the icon by setting ...vmail\line1\unread\count to zero (BTW it was FFFFFFFF), and when the second SMS arrived it was set.
Thanks!

Ok, so I had 5 minutes and modified a previous one to do what you need. Send me a PM with your email and I'll send you the test cab file. If/when it's been tested and working I'll post the cab here for everyone else who may find a use for it.
Used the following logic:
if (sender is "TELCEL") {
if (message length is 0) vm_icon_off()
else if (message contains "Usted tiene un nuevo mensaje de voz.") vm_icon_on()
}
Richard.

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Ok, so I had 5 minutes and modified a previous one to do what you need.
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It's working perfectly, thanks a lot!
After further testing, I found the icon is turned on every time I softreset the phone, even if the voice mail is empty. I can clear it in the registry or by calling the voice mail an hanging. After that it works fine with your rules.
Any idea why would a softreset turn on the icon?

carlosg said:
Any idea why would a softreset turn on the icon?
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In a word, no. Maybe that text message you get that turns the light on results in another more persistent voicemail flag being saved that also needs to be reset. That's just a guess.
I've attached the cab file with the TELCEL fix in case anyone else wants a copy in the future.
Richard.

raburton said:
Maybe that text message you get that turns the light on results in another more persistent voicemail flag being saved that also needs to be reset.
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Ok, thanks for your comments. A simple mortscript in the startup folder fixes this last problem.
Script attached.
Have a nice day!
Carlos

Black Majik & Sending Text

I've had Black Majik installed for a few days now and its great... however I don't seem to be able to send or receive text messages. I'm on Orange PAYG and I've done the usual checks: credit, text and voice service numbers... other versions of Black seemed to work fine, am I missing something? anyone got any ideas?

I also have black majik and have issues with SMS. When I initially begin to type it lags alot. What could it be????

I don't know. Using the same ROM, have no issues with SMS or MMS, and I installed the Palm SMS Threader CAB that was condensed. Love the chat-like style.

oh word? where did you get that? maybe the change will do the trick...

nevermind i found it...

I would like to know how xda-developers would prefer things done around here;
Would they prefer new threads be started for all possible issues, or would they prefer posted issues be made in the thread that is already dedicated to that Rom?
For example; if I was to have an issue with Sleuths Rom, should I start a new thread, or make my post in the existing thread?

sim
your sim card have probleem

lyerx said:
your sim card have probleem
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I have the same problem with softbank X01HT. I changed radio version to 1.41 and now I can receive or send text message.

Wigmund said:
I've had Black Majik installed for a few days now and its great... however I don't seem to be able to send or receive text messages. I'm on Orange PAYG and I've done the usual checks: credit, text and voice service numbers... other versions of Black seemed to work fine, am I missing something? anyone got any ideas?
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I just started to get this problem having previously been able to send and receive OK with the Black MAJIK ROM. So what had I changed? I tried a few soft resets but every time I tried to send a message I got a pop-up with something like "try again in 15 secs phone not ready".
I have a large number of Today plug-ins so tried turning them all off but one - that Fixed the problem. For me the test messaging issue has now gone away. Maybe too early to suggest this as a fix but given that many of use with this ROM may be using the HTC Home plug-in and other plug-ins too it might be worth simply turning most of them off and trying again to send that text.
BTW - this all assumes that you had text messaging working at all with this ROM. You must configure the OS so it can send and receive texts form/to your phone provider. There are plenty of .cab files around or you can make the settings manually.
Hope this helps.

berdinkerdickle said:
I would like to know how xda-developers would prefer things done around here;
Would they prefer new threads be started for all possible issues, or would they prefer posted issues be made in the thread that is already dedicated to that Rom?
For example; if I was to have an issue with Sleuths Rom, should I start a new thread, or make my post in the existing thread?
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I suppose that it all depends upon whether you can accurately link your problem to a particular ROM. Many will have the same problems across ROM builds and posting just into that single post would not get the wider exposure. Of course if you are sure, or strongly believe, that the problems you are encountering are caused by the actual ROM then it is worth posting there. A good bit of searching is often the best guide because it is probably rare that you are the first to find a problem.
Regards

Missing SMS / text messages

Hello,
I've suspected for a while(and confirmed with friends) that relatively often, my sms don't get to them. It's shown as sent in my phone and in the sms threads, but they simply don't recieve them.
So I tested it out with another phone, sending 5 sms' to the other phone and it only recieved the first one. the other 4 never got there... Now could this be some sort of anti spam causing it? - I did send them in rapid succession. However when I send messages from the OTHER phone to me, regardless of how quick, I get them all. And we're on the same network/provider so that doesn't seem to be the problem.
During regular use, even SMS' sent with lots of time inbetween gets lost occassionally.
I've never had this problems with my old phone so does anyone else have a clue why this is happening? As you can imagine, it's frustrating thinking someone has gotten a message but it never reached there.
Thank you.

Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535

RMU said:
Sounds like this problem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522535
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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?

I had that problem before with my touchPro. All I did was hard reset the phone, active sync my contacts and I sent out text messages. Everything worked fine after that.

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Hey thanks for the reply, I saw that but doubt that's the same problem.. I usually list most of my numbers with +, and it shows the message is "sent". If it was the same problem as the link above, I guess it would b epossible to reproduce it everytime but mine is seemingly more random.
The specific number I tested it on was a number WITHOUT the +areacode, and even that produced 1/5 messages recieved by the other party.
Any other ideas?
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Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.

RMU said:
Also checked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4016381&postcount=31 ? see if the number is still correct in windows mobile?
Also try to sent from the windows interface a couple of times (in the textmessage touchflo tab touch the new sms icon in the above right corner.) see if it does better then.
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God you know what, you're right. Thanks. I did look through the WM sent folder before but not far down enough..
It does seem to drop the + after the first SMS then not reapply the + until I get a reply.
Annoyingly my phone still tells me "Message Sent" instead of invalid number though, so there's no way to tell if it sent the message without going to check the sent folder I assume?
Doesn't seem like there's a fix or even a confirmed cause for this yet?

I'm having a strange reversed problem: all SMS I send are regularly delivered, but I "miss" many incoming ones. the strage thing is that it happens (AFAIK) only with my girlfriend's ones!! nobody else still complained about me not anwering, so that should mean I received and answered all other mesages.
Please note that we have the same mobile operator (Vodafone Italy)
today she tried her SIM with her bro's phone, and guess what, the problem is still here BUT the difference is in lost messages: 4 out of five lost with her Moto v9, 2 out of 6 lost with her bro's nokia. that sounds really weird to me.
where do you think the problem might be? mine/her SIM, or phone?
I'll call Vodafone Italy later, but their assistance and support is really awful, they do not even know what they are talking about, and reply with the same pre-confectioned anwers every time.

what's the deal with "message cannot be sent" message

i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..

idodekel said:
i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..
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I've noticed on my phone that if I happen to be sending a message at the same time I'm receiving one, my outgoing message usually fails. I'm not sure why this is though.

i agree , i think there is a bug hidden in this issue..
i have many good things to say on my deviice but there has to be a good reson or solution for this , to bad HTC are not recieving our complains and check this

I had always assumed it was a carrier issue. Disconnecting and reconnecting the radio always has fixed the issue for me.

may i asked how u do that ?
my solution is softreset...

is that happen with the TF messeging ?
or the Win messeging ?
casue it happened with me in the TF thread mode
and i stoped sending from that interface till a solution come up
now i send from our old good Win messege with no problem what so even

itdid happen with in the touch flow mode ,
i will try the old known and good wm mode in order to send message , and i will keep you updated.

For me it has something to do with the numbers saved in the phone. I got them all in +49 (0xxx) 1234567 format. When calling someone the phone automatically ereases the 0 and dials +49xxx1234567 - when sending messages the 0 remains in the number and I get the error. I can erease the 0 by hand and then the message is send. After that i can reply to that person using winmo messaging without ereasing the 0...

Partial solution perhaps
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For me it has something to do with the numbers saved in the phone. I got them all in +49 (0xxx) 1234567 format. When calling someone the phone automatically ereases the 0 and dials +49xxx1234567 - when sending messages the 0 remains in the number and I get the error. I can erease the 0 by hand and then the message is send. After that i can reply to that person using winmo messaging without ereasing the 0...
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Hi Marc.
Don´t know if it´s the same problem but there´s an official fix that sound´s about right here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=0&dl_id=625
For some obscure reason the explaining text is in french on that site, whereas everything else is in english.
Be advised however that this fix is dated july 30. 09.
There´s a ROM-upgrade dated August 8. 09. Now i can´t be absolutely sure but if I was employed in HTC maintanance, i´d include old patches in the ROM-upgrade. Your post states your ROM version to be 1.14.111.2 and the new German version is 1.19.407.1 so you might be able to solve the issue with a ROM upgrade.
I haven´t upgraded my self. Even though there´s a Danish one provided as well. I´m waiting for the stock WinMo6,5 rom. Installing bought software, contacts, backup and everything feels like too much trouble when we´re going to have to do the whole shebang all over again in a fortnight or so.
In any case the German rom can be found here:
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=250&cat=2&dl_id=629
Regards
ELO

samarrai said:
is that happen with the TF messeging ?
or the Win messeging ?
casue it happened with me in the TF thread mode
and i stoped sending from that interface till a solution come up
now i send from our old good Win messege with no problem what so even
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I've also had this occur on the TP1 and the Titan, where I was using the Windows default app.

Polar67 said:
Don´t know if it´s the same problem but there´s an official fix that sound´s about right here:
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Thanks Elo, just tried it. Seems to work only on Unbranded TP2. Mine is a T-mobile Vario V, I get an error "Incorrect Device".
I will wait for WiMo6.5 as well, I guess it will be included there. And T-mobile will provide a free update for their MDAs.

what's worse - while that error message is sat in the background, until i click it i cant receive any incoming messages (actually looks like i loose them). it cost me a fortune using it abroad, this bug! what's even worse - the tp2 rom provided by mpd is an older version to what this patch fixes, hence incorrect device. waiting for htc reply

idodekel said:
i must say this is very annoying , not the message but the situation itself , why the message cannot be sent why? there is reception and all ..
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Do you happen to use PIM backup?

no i am not using ,
i am sure this is a bug, i use now the windows mobile messaging module and its flawless.
HTC YOU HAVE A BUG!!!
(please fix it )

[Q] Unlocked Defy, insert AT&T SIM, get SMS errors back

Just got my unlock today, so put my AT&T SIM in, booted up the defy, and now I am getting error messages back (as SMS messages) from +1121611611 indicating I need to use a valid 10 digit number.
From what I assume, it's a T-Mobile app sending a message to their own network for whatever reason, so AT&T can't deliver it. Well not only have I gotten at least 12 of these in the last couple of hours, but I get to pay for them on my AT&T TXT plan. Nice.
Any idea what might be in the OEM (though rooted) Defy ROM that's sending out garbage to the TMO network? I am doing a Clockwork backup, and plan to attempt a motorola blur removal, and whatever else you smart and helpful people can suggest.
Your input is very much appreciated!
PS - I should mention I have no trouble sending or receiving REAL mms/sms messages. These errors come from out of the blue, with no action on my part.

I had received a similar message from Vodafone Romania while I was there.
Unfortunately, I wasnt able to load a custom/blurless rom to see if that fixed it at the time.

Just more information - My detail on AT&T shows that my phone is "sending an SMS" to number 1122. That's the reason for the error, so now I need to figure out what in the Defy sends sms to 1122.
Hmmm.

Once backup is done flash 2.34 blurless rom from higgsy guide. Then flas the correct radio from other guides here. Hopefully shud be good by then.
Sent from my ME525 using XDA App

Interested in this as well...
Would anyone know what's sending the SMS messages?

VisualVoiceMail.apk sends SMS every 5 minutes. You may disable it by running "pm disable com.motorola.android.vvm" under root prompt.

Do you know why it does that?
Can we just delete that apk or is it needed by the system? Is it T-Mo bloatware?
Thanks!
Inlined said:
VisualVoiceMail.apk sends SMS every 5 minutes. You may disable it by running "pm disable com.motorola.android.vvm" under root prompt.
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Inlined said:
VisualVoiceMail.apk sends SMS every 5 minutes. You may disable it by running "pm disable com.motorola.android.vvm" under root prompt.
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Sweet, going to try that later. Thank you!
EDIT: I THINK IT'S SOLVED!!! I am at work, so put my AT&T SIM in there after removing VisualVoiceMail.apk using Root Uninstaller. No SMS error messages so far. Thanks again Inlined!
Further Edit: Worked great on my unlocked Vibrant as well. I think I need to thank Inlined again

What unlock service did you use for the defy, I am trying to get one unlocked

I can tell you right now that it's not limited to just the defy. I have a Razr from when I was on TMobile before, got it unlocked and used it as a backup phone on ATT. I always got the same messages on bootup. Came back to TMobile, put my sim in the phone...no more. I can only assume its some type of internal registration that happening.