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WM2005 on a Blue Angel

I have a Blue Angel as mentioned in my signature and I have what I believe are all of the files needed to try and install WM2005 Build 14326.0.0.0 onto it.
Here are the WM2005 files I currently have:
HimaUpgradeUt - 512KB - 5/5/2004 4:54PM
nk.nbf - 32,769KB - 3/21/2005 9:08AM
And the following came from my existing ROM:
ms_.nbf - 16,833KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
radio_.nbf - 4,097KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
I also have a good copy of ActiveSync Beta 4.0.0 and have all of the instructions that were made in the main WM2005 post for installing on the Himalaya and I'm assuming it should be the same for the Blue Angel.
My device info currently reads:
Model No: PH20A2
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 Build 14132
ROM Version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/13/05
Radio Version: HA00_140
Protocol Version: AA3.3.301
ExtROM Version: 1.36.110 WWE
Hardware Version: 0041
This is what it came with out of the box, I have not installed the updated ROM Audiovox released the day the phone was released because I have never had a single problem and some people who upgraded reported problems and that some files were a day older than the version that shipped in the original ROM.
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Now my 1st question, the newest updated ROM installer package from Audiovox which was released 3/4/2005, has a different version of the upgrade utility, it's called "HaUpgradeUt - 424KB - 12/23/2004". The package it was included in from Audiovox's website was called "HA_SPCS_13600_113_00140_6600". Which upgrade utility is the best to use or does it not matter?
Now my 2nd question, has anyone yet tried this on a Blue Angel? Is there anyone here who really knows thier stuff who is willing to help me if I get lost or screwed up so I can be the Blue Angel WM2005 test pig?
Thanks!

hi
i have a pda2k with 1.33 rom and radio rom 1.08 and my cooked rom
i tried the upgrade but got the device authentication error.. tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.. the himupgrade starts the procedure and then stops after some time saying an error occured..
but you go ahead and try it..may be you will do something differently and will succeed..
note: i have tried the xda 2 SE rom and imate jam rom and almost tried the alpine rom on my pda2k.. there is nothing you cannot revert back from
just incase if you are curious what happened after the above roms..my device didnt boot.... no problem...just unplug the usb port of the cradle and run a wwe rom made for xda 2s or pda2k ...everything will work then!
good luck..
keep us posted!!!!

in the above post: i mean unplug usb then replug usb and then run the BAupgrade utility....
can you upload hte 1.36 rom you have??? does your device have wifi and camera???
thanks

zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...

your running the Verizon EVDO version of the the BlueAngel a CDMS 1xrt yada yada device. Most new ROM images are made for GSM phones then latter altered to talk to CDMA modules. In this case I think ot only would you not have a "good" experience but would warn against it. Second BlueAngel devices have OEM driver for the slide out keyboard. You will most likely loose for sure its use with this new OS. This is why the only devices it is worrking on right now are non-hardwired keyboard devices. Also there seems to be a notable diff in the hardare implimentation between HTC based devices. What software might work with one may not at all or damage another. Sorry for the down news but I think unless you have a keyboardless device I would not recomend playing with it. Just my 2 cents.
What you can do though is grab some of the elements (image files) from the new OS in other threads here, and overwrite the files on your device. Kind of like adding crome package or racing stripes. still the same car, just feel new :wink:

Thanks for the input. I'm running the Sprint version, not the Verizon one, same difference though pretty much, lol. 2.5G Vs. 1xrt and both have EV-DO, and then of course the frequency of the Verizon digital and Sprints PCS, but yeah both CDMA
I really couldn't care less about the keyboard, I don't even use it, never really have. Honestly, I work for CompUSA and if this thing gets buggered up I'll just exchange it out. I'm going to do a full backup tonight, hard reset, dump the existing ROM and then start the process just for grins to see how it goes. As long as it's not dog slow, text messaging works and email along with voice functions I'll be happy as heck. It'll atleast be fun to screw with and then I can always go back later.
I'm still unclear on some things like the country code and stuff that was mentioned in the other posts. Once I know I have all the facts and all of the files I'll give it a try and post back here. I'm off Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday so I'll have 3 days straight to play. I have to say my only real concern is it working with the CDMA radio which hopefully it will since I have a good copy of the latest Radio ROM for it...

hi 92GTA
yeah were on the same page..
wm2005 i can share is the original post..and i think page 10 has the answer (im not entirely sure though the post has now 17 pages!!!)

@ 92GTA : can you share this 2k5 ROM ? can you upload to a ftp and give us a link

bad :
read properly : he WANTS to install WM2005 on his IIs.
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
It's like putting diesel in a petrol car..things will screw up...
The 2005 upgrade currently available is only meant for XDA II devices, not IIs or II mini...or whatever. Hardware differences will render your efforts rather futile save for a massive hack.. Sigh.

indecided said:
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
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dude what the hell is indecided..its either undecided or indecisive
the latter being you :twisted:

already tried this guys, it doesn't work, the bootloader cannot read the CE image, nd therefore hinders the device useless, but i managed to flash back to 1.31 and all is working now.

Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.

hmmm...
Has anyone found a way to get WM5 to work on a blue angel??
I am new to windows ce,
however i have written a disassembler for windows ce arm executables
(dunno if it is of any use for this?)
and i am not affraid to develop more
if there is anyone who has any idea how to go about making wm5 work
i'd be glad to help
(ps i have an imate pda2k)

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Bobi1 said:
Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.
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you can find all the upgrade information at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=138733#138733

............... ??

92GTA said:
zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...
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Sign me up too, CMDA but my has 1x instead of EV-DO. I would be willing to try it.

Where on Audiovox is the 2005 rom?. All I've ever seen are the 2003se updates.

XDA 2s Firmware 28th Feb 2005 / WM5 NOOB.

NOOB QUESTIONS
Looking on www.o2.co.uk site i got this firmware dated 28th Feb 2005.
v1.31.139 are:
O2 Active v3.6:
I'm sure I have a June 2005 link to newer firmware. Just checked with FINDUS he recommend iMate 1.40 FW and or WM5 beta
Is the new firmware for XDA an MSN PPC2003 / WM5 upgrade? or a specific chip software rewrite with nothing to do with MSN PPC2003 / WM5? or both?
Which firmware works best with WM5? for UK o2 XDA2s?
or would it be better to wait for the WM5 BUGS to be ironed out and install firmware best suited to latest PocketPC2003? if so what firmware is best for PPC2003 and where can i get that?
Will WM5 work with: TOMTOM5 navigator, PocketMusic, Pocket Skype? and will it generaly be ok for one year old software? many thanks choppidge.

Hi,
You sound a bit confused! The O2 official update on their website is probably the operating system you are running right now. It is WM 2003 SE 1.31 and is an older version than the imate 1.40, which has the later bluetooth stack and windows mobile 10 built in. The wm5 for blueangel is getting a lot more stable now, but it still has too many bugs for me so I am sticking with the imate 1.40 ROM. O2 have yet to release a 1.40 version of the ROM, although they are supposed to be doing so soon, with Blackberry support as well, but don't hold your breath for an official WM2005 ROM from O2, it almost certainly will not happen.
Hope this helps,
Fin

Yes I am confused! but slowly i am learning, thanks for your help. I hope to upgrade today hopefully not to a paper weight, I have backed up everything so dont mind trying a few different ROMs, I will be reading the wiki very carefuly.
I will be using Skype which comes supplied with imate 1.40 ROM.
I need to learn how to stream audio via a random Wifi connection.
I will be using WMP10 and PocketMusic also TOMTOM5 and a good Icon Bar / Task Manager. Upgrades or downgrades to camera software may be needed.

UK MDA Pro and iMate WWE update

Hi,
I have got confused with the various bricked posts, misnamed WWE update posts etc.
What I would like to know is the following:
1. Does the imate update (english) work on the MDA Pro?
2. Does anyone have the original T-Mobile version for returning it to the release T-mob version?
3. Does doing an upgrade invalidate my warranty with T-Mob?
My issue with current roms is that the device crashes at least once a day, and I am getting fed up with reboots.
Thanks,
Joe

It works fine with the MDA Pro, I have mine running the JASJAR Rom.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/MDA_PRO_JASJAR_ROM_UPGRADE_WWE_11353_137_10301.zip
Download that, it has the No Device ID exe.

hi, did the ROM change speed up your MDA pro in any way? also does the video calling feature still work.

This really interests me too.. Any answers out there please?
P :?:

Mine does seem a little quicker, especially after overwriting the iMate supplied .tsk files for the homescreens.
WiFi a *bit* more stable, but not perfect.

So... If I download that file, unpack it onto my UK T-Mobile MDA PRO and run it, I will have the latest software on the MDA PRO?
Are there any 'issues'?
Will I lose any data\ programs\settings etc.?
P

psteel said:
So... If I download that file, unpack it onto my UK T-Mobile MDA PRO and run it, I will have the latest software on the MDA PRO?
Are there any 'issues'?
Will I lose any data\ programs\settings etc.?
P
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You run the install from a PC, having put the phone into "bootloader" mode. As far as I know, its a newer ROM version than is supplied with the MDA Pro, and also doesn't contain the T Mobile customisation. It DOES include MSN and Skype as standard, as well as a couple of other bits.
It will totally wipe your phone / settings, but if you select T Mobile UK after you install the new ROM, most of the T Mobile settings are reconfigured for you. You just have to do the 3G one yourself, but the details are in another thread (possibly in the main Universal area of this forum).
Imate produce regular ROM upgrades for their other phones, so it is likely they'll release a new ROM before Orange / O2 / T Mobile manage it.

Newbie
Just got the MDA pro. How do i upgrade the Rom? I dun really understand how to go to the registry as well? Any help?? Really appreciate it. Thanks.
The link for the update i mate jasjar rom is not working??

Someone moved it :roll:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_JASJAR_ROM_UPGRADE_WWE_11353_137_10301.zip

Newbie in need of help.
Thanks for the ftp link. Regarding about getting into the registry? How do i do that? And how do i update the rom.
I got some problem with my mda pro sync with my laptop?
It say cant detect the device. I cant install the driver either. Anyone have the same problem with the mda pro or only me?
Do anybody know how can i unlock the mda pro?
Thanks.
Reply really appreciated.

unlocking mda pro
Hi, I think the only way to unlovk the MDA at present is via the subsidy code from T Mobile. In the UK you can only do this after you have completed a month on contract and t mobile will charge you 15 pounds for the priviledge. On 02 the devices come unlocked for any network.
with ref to the ROM update to WWE jasjar, this is an absolute must for ALL t mobile users. I can confirm things are stable all round, but don't expect you can get away from those periodic resets - M$ seem to have built in this feature in all pocket PC OS ! - yes I am calling this a feature of the OS now.
Look around on the forums here on how to flash there are some very good posts about.
Remember, most important if you want stability only install essential software.

unlocking mda pro
Hi, I think the only way to unlovk the MDA at present is via the subsidy code from T Mobile. In the UK you can only do this after you have completed a month on contract and t mobile will charge you 15 pounds for the priviledge. On 02 the devices come unlocked for any network.
with ref to the ROM update to WWE jasjar, this is an absolute must for ALL t mobile users. I can confirm things are stable all round, but don't expect you can get away from those periodic resets - M$ seem to have built in this feature in all pocket PC OS ! - yes I am calling this a feature of the OS now.
Look around on the forums here on how to flash there are some very good posts about.
Remember, most important if you want stability only install essential software.

Mda pro usb activesync problem
Hi thank for the reply. You mean i should change it to the jasjar rom which is the link above? I am new to pda phones and need some help.
I cant connect my device to my laptop using usb. It say device not detected.
I install the software and it should work rite. Is there something i didnt do? I read the manual saying install the software then have sync relationship with the pc and device. How do i sync the relationship? Do i just plug in the usb to my laptop then it will automatically detect my mda pro?
Help. Thanks.

bit stuck
have the jasjar files on my computer but click on bootld and it says not valid 32 programme. Try and load the software but it says wrong country code. what am I doing wrong, MDA PRO first PDA

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cj136uk said:
have the jasjar files on my computer but click on bootld and it says not valid 32 programme. Try and load the software but it says wrong country code. what am I doing wrong, MDA PRO first PDA
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is no one here?

try this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&highlight=

i tried to upgrade with my dopod 900 which purchased in taiwan...
but it says "error 120: contry id error"
"the rom image that you are trying to use is not designed to work with your device."
does anyone who can solve this problem?
please!
thanks

parkertseng said:
i tried to upgrade with my dopod 900 which purchased in taiwan...
but it says "error 120: contry id error"
"the rom image that you are trying to use is not designed to work with your device."
does anyone who can solve this problem?
please!
thanks
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You just need to use the no device id update exe and it will work fine.
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Tools/MaUpgradeUt_noID.zip

someone moved it again...lol

Best version for Vario II?

OK. I'm ready to take the plunge since I'm not expecting T-Mobile to release an official upgrade any time soon (if ever). Before I upgrade my Vario II from WM5 to WM6, can someone answer the following questions (yes, I have read the wiki about flashing and upgrading).
1. What version is "best" for T-Mobile Vario II?
2. Can I go back to WM5 if I need to return my phone under warranty?
My desktop PC runs Vista if that makes any difference re. the choice of WM6 to use (I think some programs require ActiveSync?).
Re. 2, I see that there is a copy of the ROM on this site - does that mean I just download and install over WM6 if I need to?
Cheers.
Bobby

bobbyelliott said:
OK. I'm ready to take the plunge since I'm not expecting T-Mobile to release an official upgrade any time soon (if ever). Before I upgrade my Vario II from WM5 to WM6, can someone answer the following questions (yes, I have read the wiki about flashing and upgrading).
1. What version is "best" for T-Mobile Vario II?
2. Can I go back to WM5 if I need to return my phone under warranty?
My desktop PC runs Vista if that makes any difference re. the choice of WM6 to use (I think some programs require ActiveSync?).
Re. 2, I see that there is a copy of the ROM on this site - does that mean I just download and install over WM6 if I need to?
Cheers.
Bobby
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1. Personal taste - try them out! Black Pro 2.5 has a separate T-mobile edition so I would try this first
2. Yes

Upgrading my X51v to WM6 but with the possibility to get back to WM5

Hello everyone,
sorry for posting this noob questions here, I see that you all are discussing software development and stuff, but it is the only place I've found to ask about it.
My situation: I have a Dell Axim X51v wich is still on warranty and CompleteCare (until march 2009!). It has a WM5 A04 Portuguese Rom wich is very unstable and quite lame (I don't like the system in portuguese!) and I'm looking forward to use the WM6 Football Rom, that everywhere I read says its very nice.
The fact is: If I had to call Dell for support, I'll need to give them the Ax with the WM5 Portuguese rom. I really consider this since the device isn't brand new and if something happens I don't want to loose it.
So, what I need to know is how (and if it is possible of course) to get the image of my Ax as it is now, to store in a safe copy on my pc or a cd, upgrade to Football's WM6 (wich version, btw? I see that there are RTM and Preview A06 on the thread) and then eventually get it back to my current rom, if I need to use the warranty. I know that the upgrade part is well documented around the internet, but the downgrade to the same or similar system is the major doubt.
I'll be grateful for any help. I'm new to all this and there are lots of knowledge around. Never had any experience flashing, just upgraded my ROM one time with the official procedure from HP, on my old Ipaq.
Thanks!!

I do not recommand to install the new file because they will broke dell warranty (I know you still come back to A12 rom but for potugal rom I don't know.

Well, I guess since you can flash a different language ROM of a different OS you could turn back to the other... or does there are problem flashing into an "older" version rom? (mine is A04 brazilian)
Anyway, thanks for the reply!
My WM5 is crashing frequently and I don't know why... I've installed some old dictionaries and maybe they messed it up. As I think on hard-reseting it, I consider the system upgrade, since WM5 is stupidly slow sometimes...
anyone else know about this rom switch-around?
I guess that if I have to call Dell, or my Ax is usable and I can switch the rom or it is unusable and probably they won't note that it was hacked! What about that?