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Messenger / Windows Live - Contacts sooo annoying!

Fellow xda people...
I'm a ms messenger addict, well I like it anyway and I've been looking forward to using it on my vario over uk T-mobile web'n'walk...I'm running black 2.5 so now I have the "windows live" thing on my today screen and I'm signed in...
thing is, seems to work...but i CANT STAND the way it insists on putting all my MSN contacts into my contact list! Does this annoy anyone else? Anyone found any clever work arounds?
Typical of microsoft trying to integrate an app and take over the whole machine - horrible?
cheers
bb

its so annoying...almost makes me want to use a different messenger client?

using black 2.0. cannot sign windows live from yesterday until now. it said no internet connectivity but i am connected with gprs and also wifi. can surf net also. it the mobile server different from the desktop?

I'm talking about the contacts in particular....

anyone else use messenger - windows live....polluting my contacts !

I had the same problem when I first used the live messenger beta a few months back. The final version does have the "sync contacts" optionality but as you say it still syncs them and creates duplicates and rubbish!
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.

unwired4 said:
The only work around I found was to use outlook to copy and paste all the relevant info from the original contacts details into the new contacts created by messenger and then deleting the old one. This then avoids the duplication next time you flash and set up live.
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That seems to work the best for me, I don't have to many contact and it wasnt that hard for me to delete them all and put them back in again - when you do this it asks what sort of contact you want - I think MS should have included a wizard that goes through your contacts when you first install them asking if you want Outlook, Contacts List and/or Messenger for each contact.
Another problem I found was everytime it synced from phone to computer, it would change my Messenger contacts, I found that if you edit the contact in Windows Messenger and make sure the name info is the same as what is one the phone has stored, it solves this problem, my contacts sync OK now.

I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...

Someone posted a workaround in the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1236933&postcount=22
Don't know if it's working since I didn't have time to install Live Messenger and try it out. Can someone try it?

My Workaround ...
Yeah,
I had the exact same problem. And i have HEAPS of contacts both messenger and outlook ... and of course ... i'm ridiculously anal about having everything exactly perfect ... so i fixed my contacts and reinstalled my phone ... hah
What i found worked for me, was before syncing the first time, make sure that you have outlook contacts corresponding to the email addresses of your messenger contacts. (ie: if windows live messenger sees you have an outlook contact with the same email address, it will just attach the msn display pic etc to that contact.
- Phixx

cheers for this...infuriating !
I have now taken the route one approach...deleted all the daft MS Messenger contacts and removed Windows Live from my today screen (I would delete it if I could)....Hope I never see it again!

The best way to deal with it is to make sure all of your contacts in MS Live have contact entries in Outlook. It sucks, but once you have all of your contacts sync'd up, it's pretty cool: you can see people's online status anywhere you see their contact info on the phone.

BTW; no matter what route you take, you MUST back up your Live contacts and your Outlook contacts on your PC. Seriously. Do it now. I made the mistake of not doing that, and during one of my many reloads, I somehow managed to wipe out my entire Outlook contacts list *and* my Windows Live contact list. It was not a fun day restoring that.
Go to Contacts->Save instant messenging contacts in Windows Live on your PC.

yeah, but i don't want my instant messenger stuff anywhere near my contacts...to me it's a separate app! (or it should be) MS trying to be too clever by half.

What would be nice is if it put the messenger emails in contacts under "emails" Ie personal / business and email catogries.
It really is quite annoying when sifting through the contact list to find a phone number and having to sift through 100's of mail addresses too.
Of course I do try to use the smart dialing but they still come up.
Just having to do these work arounds every reinstall / HR e.t.c is tedious at best.

LeoBadhan said:
I have the same issue, so i just reverted to using Pocket MSN...
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I want to do the same thing, only I can't find the install for pocket MSN, the only one I could find was on the MS site where you have to pay for it.. it came with my TyTN so I don't want to pay MS another €15 for it!
Can you please provide me the install file? whether it is in PM or in the thread
Thanks alot man

I quite like the way it works.. It's a little bit annoying if you have contacts who have really messed up their details online so that it can't link them to a phone contact, but other than that I really like it.
It would be nice if there was an advanced sync option where you could somehow pair orphan people on MSN to people in contacts on the phone so that it was aware they were the same person.. but I'm not gonna complain too much.

or just give you an option to turn it off.

I'm having an absolute nightmare with this!
I really like the idea in concept and want it to work.
I deleted the contacts it added to my phone adress book cos it looked messy not realising that when I sync'd with my PC it would delete them all (85) from messenger!
So I started re adding my msn contacts being careful to also have a corresponding Outlook contact and all was going well. I was getting them linked up nicely. Now all of a sudden, they've all gone again from my MSN on my PC!
I want this feature to work, I don't simply want to turn it off as some of you have done. How should I go about this?

Yes, me too.. There are nice features in Live messenger for WM, like showing display picture, voiceclip, sending files, pictures, etc, but this contacts problem is so darn annoying! I wish some wizzguy could look into a hack or solution
Greetz.

There has been a change made on your server that requires you to re-synchronize all i

I have upgraded to oficial WM6 and I use Windows Vista 64, with the latest Windows Mobile Device Center.
From time to time I keep receiving this error:
"There has been a change made on your server that requires you to re-synchronize all items on your device. Please perform a manual sync."
If I accept I lose the changes made in my P3300.
What should I do ??
I am afraid of syncronizing and loosing every change again
Thanks for any help
aamato

Grande Alexandre
I have also updated my Artemis to official WM6, and syncronized with Vista without any problem. But I use Vista 32; maybe Vista 64 with WMDC would be the guilty. Try change to 32b version.
regards
Claudio
PS.: até aqui nos encontramos!!!

Pois é
Pois é... até aqui.
I cannot believe we all use underestimated 32 bit software in 64bits systems because the softwarehouses doesn´t care to create 64bit programs...
Well, I am still trying
Thanks anyway
Abraço
aamato

They are lazy
They are lazy or think consumers arent interested in 64b.Who to blame?

Before a total flame war agains MS is started, I'd like to say that I had the same thing with the 32 bit version and the latest WMDC.
I think you can go ahead safely (I did, and I didn't lose any files/information). The message only says that it has to do a full synchronisation. Nothing is really deleted, it's just checked extra or overwritten from your computer. If you have a new B&B installation this shouldn't be a problem since you don't have anything on the P3300

How the error appears
"There has been a change made on your server that requires you to resyncronize all items on your device. All changes made since your last successful sync will be lost. Do you wish to continue" Yes or No
I don´t know what to do !

No problem
I've had this same message a lot of times..... well, exactlly every time I made a full restore from a backup after fooling arround with my p3300. And the point is... if you've made changes IN THE P3300, you'll loose them, as it's going to make a complete 'download' of messages and contacts from the server (Exchange in my case)... so you're safe to accept it (if your exchange messages and contacts are ok, of course)
Salut
Bak

It happens frequently
I have just accepted the error, and it is fully syncronizing.
But it happened before, and it keeps happening randomly, not if I do something big in my p3300 like a backup restore...

I would just like to say we have been investigating this problem with Microsoft for the last 4 months. Still have not found the cause of the problem. It happens with all of the Windows Mobile Devices independent of WM 5.0, WM 6.0 or WM 6.1. Also it happens with all brands Samsung,HTC, and HP I have seen it happen.
It is to do with something with the settings of the Exchange server but we can not be sure what it is. Our best bet is the Antivirus program causing the mishap on the synchronisation but I have to say we do not have any actual proof

No Exchange Server here...
Well I'm not using Exchange Server. I get this every so often too. I just use a USB.
I'm not exactly sure about this...but I don't remeber that I got this on XP.
I thought it was some software that I installed.

rasmasyean said:
Well I'm not using Exchange Server. I get this every so often too. I just use a USB.
I'm not exactly sure about this...but I don't remeber that I got this on XP.
I thought it was some software that I installed.
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I have the same problem with XP SP2 and Active Sync 4.5 and my ATT Tilt running WM 6.1
This really stinks since it does erase all changes made to the phone contacts!!
Who has a solution??

i had the problem with my treo 750v and it keeps on with my new samsung i780.
it is very annoying. there is no data lost because simply all items are being synchronized again but it takes so long!
i have more than 1000 contacts and many many calendar items.
i still cant imagíne how that problem comes.
in another board someone told that this error occurs when the synchronisation is being interrupted.
i am gonna observe that. maybe that is the problem.

Problem Solved
The solution is at this thread on Microsoft... http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/.../thread/014c27ad-b7ec-43e8-b39f-908e0a88f25c/
However, some people are still experiencing the same problem after following the instructions... and you will! The first time you sync your device AFTER you have received the error message about the re-sync requirement and AFTER you have changed your settings, you will STILL get the same error message. Once the device has been synced (and, yes, after you've lost all your current information that you struggled to enter into your device while driving 60MPH on the highway while talking on the phone)... the error message will no longer appear the NEXT time you sync.
This is the case with my HTC Touch Diamond anyway.
Good luck.

which of the tips provides a solution. i read the linked topic but didnt find any

See here for a possible solution:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/d709054c-24a0-4b47-a29d-043aef6b14f3

i finally found out that its definitely the disconnection during syncing.
if you avoid that, the error doesnt occur.
and for resyncing all items you better deactivate touch flo. then it takes only a few minutes.

wm6 activesync, gmail push email, and error (support code) 0x86000106
Same thing is happening with my CDMA Sprint/HTC Touch Pro. I enabled IMAP on my gmail and set up push email on my phone for my gmail account using activesync. After a while, my phone activesync kept popping up a message saying, "There has been a change made on your server that requires you to re-synchronize all items on your device. All changes made since your last successful sync will be lost. Do you wish to continue?" Under 'Attention Required' it gives Support Code: 0x86000106. I allowed it to re-sync, but the message kept popping up. So as a last resort, I did a hard reset on my phone, but hard reset did not solve it.
After a while, I figured out that the problem was that I had chosen the "Sent Items" folder on my wm6.1 Pocket Outlook to be synced with my Gmail, but the problem is that no such folder exists in Gmail. Actually, Gmail does have such a folder/label, but Gmail calls it "Sent Mail," and this name difference misses up the wm6.1's activesyncing gmail accounts to give the above-mentioned error code. I also noticed that a new label, unbeknown to me, had been created on my Gmail called "Sent Items," so this may have been the reason that the activesync stopped synchronizing Pocket Outlook's Sent Items folder with the Gmail's Sent Mail folder/label.
I deleted the Sent Item label on my Gmail, and I think that I may now be able to start syncing Pocket Outlook's Sent Items folder with Gmail's Sent Mail folder/label, but I am not brave enough to take the risk of going through all that trouble if the error message shows up again. So I am now only syncing the Inbox folders on my Pocket Outlook and Gmail. What I don't understand is how did the Sent Items label get created on my Gmail account to cause all that miss? I did not create it, so my guess is after a while wm6.1's active sync may trick Gmail into making that label and cause all of those problems.
Many people have had this problem and Sprint, HTC, and Microsoft have no idea what is causing it, but I'm pretty sure I have figured it out. What a shame because so many people have reported this problem on various forums and reported not help or resolution for it although some got the error while trying to sync their phone with their computer's activesync 4.5 whereas my problem was using wm6.1's activesync with my gmail account directly to get push email--a service that Gmail began for Windows Mobile users since around Q4 of last year.
If anyone has a solution for this name difference on the two folders in Pocket Outlook and Gmail, please let me know. I hope the info I have provided will help.

Working ActiveSync CAB??

Anyone got a CAB file for ActiveSync? or could someone create one for me please? I have installed Farias/DrP's ROM, their ActiveSync install won't sync up with my server, I have installed other WM6.1 ROMS which all work ok, I've tried a different Radio ROM just in case but it still doesnt seem to want to work. I like the ROM and would rather just replace the dodgy app if possible.

would suggest re-installing activesync on computer than stuffing around with your hermes. I've got Dr p/Faria's rom running and have no sync problems. As a point I generally try active sync after a flash but if it doesnt work re-install and delete all paired files. This wont get rid of your contacts because they're stored in outlook. Just remember NOT to replace all items on the computer when prompted as THIS MAY DELETE ALL CONTACTS. As I've said I've had no trouble syncing however. I've found that leaving the hermes on too long and not doing anything may corrupt the os resulting in me having to hard reset or reflash. Be warned.... Hope this helps..

I'm having somewhat of the same problem but my active sync sync's but when I look in my out box my mail is still there so every time I sync it continues to resend the mail that's in the outbox. So what I've been doing is deleting it out of the outbox once it's done syncing. Also I've noticed that when active sync is running it goes to a all white screen with a black outline around the screen never seen that before I’m use to seeing the green circular motion movement. "(I use ActiveSync to use the over the air PUSH capability from my corporate server )" Me too.

OK maybe I wasn't clear enough.... ActiveSync works if you have a cable plugged in e.g. you can set up a pairing with your PC and the Device over a wire, I use ActiveSync to use the over the air PUSH capability from my corporate server thus the cable is surplus to requirements unless I need to charge the device. There is another person in the Faria/DrP thread with the same problem.

Mods please delete, server probs at work, don't need this any more....

Tony, talk to your IT department, sounds like a server problem

It was, this is why I asked the thread to be deleted..

i have my rohdiumw synced with gmail and its not syncing properly anymore i think that its the version of active sync that mightyrom put in do i still need the active sync cab if anyone has one they can post

vistazifta said:
i have my rohdiumw synced with gmail and its not syncing properly anymore i think that its the version of active sync that mightyrom put in do i still need the active sync cab if anyone has one they can post
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I too could use a cab installation of activesync. does that even exist out there or is it something that is only ever cooked directly into the ROM? I love my current rom except for the ASync errors. Anyone with a cab, please speak up now...

No Activesync
I too am having problems connecting my phone to WMDC on a recently purchased imate 8502, I upgraded the rom to WM6.1 and the phone is no longer recognised by pc at all. Having looked through the programs on the phone and browsed the directories on the device, I cannot find activesync on the phone at all! The only hint is an empty folder, but there is no executable for activesync anywhere, which would probably explain why so many ppl can't get thier 8502's to connect to thier pc's after upgrading!
We need an activesync.cab to install!

Mail doesn't work after Sync

Something really strange is happening with my phone and i couldn't figure out what is.
I have been having many problems trying to download my email into my Excalibur Phone (doesn't matter if I use GPRS/EDGE or WIFI). I configure out everything, select send/receive and nothing happend. Exactly nothing, the phone doen't connect, no errors showed, etc. Also if I try to stop the send/receive option it also doesn't do anything and It keeps trying to stop.
The internet connection works well I can use the explorer and other applications to sync mail like funambol, but not the regular WM Client.
I've tried many different configurations and also different imap/pop providers, nothing happens. I also decided to try with version 6.1 and the same story happens again.
At the end I try to change the order I do the fresh install and suddenly the mail start working until I sync my device with the pc using the Windows Mobile Center 6.1. Yes aftet that It stop working with exactly the same behavior.
So, in resume starting my device with a fresh version of windows mobile 6 I can configure my imap/pop3 mail and it's work fine. I connect my phone to the PC to sync the contacts/calendar/tasks (no mail) and my mail stop working again (leaveing the same configuration or deleting it and configure it again).
Looking forward for your help. Thanks.
Uriel.

What internet plan do you have exactly. Is it the 5.99 or the 19.99 one?

I live in Chile and the prices here are diferent. I dont have internet plan I pay per kbyte because I use more WIFI.

Did you run the connection wizard in the tools folder?

the connection wizard doesn't help me because the chilean parameters are not in the list. also i don't have any problem connectiong to internet, it works fine, the problem is with the mail client only.

I've discovered something new.
I restart from a fresh install of windows mobile 6.1 ricks v24. I connect to the inernet and sync my mail perfect.
Then I connected to phone to the PC to sync and set to sync ONLY the CONTACTS and it works fine. After it te phone continue working well and the mails continue working.
So I decided to take the next step, I went back to the Windows Mobile Center and enable to sync the Calendar also. After the sync finished, the problem returns. I cant connect to my mail again. It dont work.
Then I restarted the phone and went to the Windows Mobile Center and disable the Calendar sync. After the sync the calendar is deleted from my phone and the mail start working again. I can't figure out which is the relation between the mail and te calendar but something is happening here.
Thanks for your help.

[Q] WP7 sync problem (between windows live and phone)

hi guys
this morning i look on my hd7... there was the half of my messages without the name.. and the calender is empty
my outlook and micrsoft live account is invariably since yeasterday.. i see all conctacts and dates (offline and online)
when i will sync the "windows live" account on my hd7 they shows "not up-to-date" and do nothing
where is the probleme and the solution?
thx and have a nice day

I think there was problems on ms server.I've similar trouble too since lastmidnight.
Anyway have you tryed to delete and reconfigure the sync account?
Bye
[email protected]

well first thing i would try is merely restarting the phone before going to the extent of resyncing.

[email protected] said:
I think there was problems on ms server.I've similar trouble too since lastmidnight.
Anyway have you tryed to delete and reconfigure the sync account?
Bye
[email protected]
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i can´t delete the configure, without hard-reset ... i hope there is a other way
The Gate Keeper said:
well first thing i would try is merely restarting the phone before going to the extent of resyncing.
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i start it so often this day and nothing

Hi
how to sync hd2-wp7 whit pc.
htc hd2 wm6.5 is deleted
wm6.5 recovery management possi. o NO

I had this problem also yesterday night. The solutions is: sync your live email account that you configured on your wp7 phone. The phone numbers are showing up again after the sync

I had the same problem this morning. I changed the sync settings, the live account synced again and my contacts were back.