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WM6 memory leaks is worse than WM5?

I just upgraded to WM6 and I installed the same applications which were installed back when I have WM5. One of them if SpB Plus, whereby I put the RAM icon (for running program) at the 1st tab.
I noticed that after running the same applications I typically used back in WM5 (messaging, Pocket Information, SpB Insight, Phone Alarm, etc.), WM6 didn't release the memory back as much as WM5.
Example (after running the above program, then closing all of them - NOT minimizing:
WM5: ~21 Mb
WM6: ~ 18 Mb
I tried this about 4 times with 2 separate 8525, one running WM5 and the other WM6.
Forgot to mention: the file that seems to keep growing after opening/closing application is filesys, checked using MemMaid.
Anyone experienced this?

Which version of WM6 are you running?

I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.

lanwarrior said:
I am using LVSW Edition (2007-03-15). I haven't tried the 2007-03-20 since I get really tried re-installing different WM6 ROM and re-installing the apps over and over again. Sooo.. I am waiting to see if other have the same problem with various version of WM6 before plunging myself for another 4 hours of reinstalling everything.
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try this ROM and let me know how you go...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1180792&postcount=1

I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).

lanwarrior said:
I was about to, but I held back because I want to ask if anyone, who have either the LSV or the Black WM6 ROM can tell me if they have the same issue, simply just by looking at the RAM level.
Not that I am lazy, but I have gone on installing ROM so many times it's just not fun anymore and hoping that someone can just post about the memory issue.
UPDATE: I found out that using SkTools "FreeRam" tool, I can free up the memory, but not by much (extra ~1-2 Mb).
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well y dont you install the ROM... and use Task Manager to see how much memory each program is using... and do bechmark tests like every hour or so if your really worried about it that much...

Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?

lanwarrior said:
Read my post above: installing ROM and re-installing everything is not a 30 minutes gig. Plus, a real testing will involve normal usage, not just running 1-2 apps and watching the screen.
I merely asking for the community assistance for those who have installed the Black version or has noticed similar problem.
Why are you giving me nasty remarks? TIred of installing ROMS?
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calm down... im not giving nasty remarks...
was mierly suggesting that you try it out... and leave task manager running and open the applications you are worried about to actually see if it is releasing the memory or not...
i also am sick of flashing ROMs everyday... but thats how you get to learn about different ROMs and their flaws...

I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All

aquanaut88 said:
I would suggest bringing this to SPB's attention as you seem to have a difference with WM5 and WM6. If this is a must app for you, then until SPB updates their software to be more friendly with the yet-to-be release crossbow OS, you should probably stick to WM5... think of all the extra time you'll have left over to do other things than install and test... especially if it's not fun for you.
Since the first WM6 ROM was made available, I've received WM6 compatible released software from SBSH, Wisbar, CE-Star (Chinese), Conduits, and CodeCity.
Here's one example:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10476
We got our hands on the ROM before developers got their hands on the SDK. He got the SDK 06MAR and identified challenges posed by the new theme. 10MAR confirmed he'll a new rendering engine for the WM6 product t WBL. 16MAR released the update. Nicely done Chris.
And many thanks to the Chef's who continue releasing build improvements that address both shortcomings of the original ROM and additions that make some of the features more convenient.
Walshieau, many thanks to you also for your many informative and helpful posts and contributions to the XDA community.
Cheers to All
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happy to try and help...

I don't use SPB anything, any after about a day or so, I get about 19MB free. A fresh soft reset, gives me 25MB free.

@darkjedi
If the task manager icon is present in the settings menu (go to start>settings>system(tab)>task manager) then tick the top two boxes and when you press the X button it will actually exit the program you are using. You may have many programs running in the background which you are unaware of, by soft resetting this clears the memory and the programs present are those on startup.
@lanwarrior
Version 0.2 of WMXL has a memory cache fix cab, not sure if this will work on LVSW but it is worth a shot, the memory usage improves after installing this, might be worth a shot....if all else fails perform a hard reset and then maybe flash a different WM6 ROM (Black v1.2 or WMXL 0.2??).

I'm actually using the HTC Task Manager, and am closing the apps. I'm using LVSW 3-15-07 ROM. It's working great. It's not really a complaint honestly, just a little annoyance.

I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.

gurubumsmack said:
I used to love SPB Pocket Plus mainly for its X Button app, Battery meter and quick launch on today screen.
I did find it used to chomp extra resources and every time I returned to the today screen there was always a second or 2 pause while the today screen plugin refreshed.
I've since switched to Batti, Scott Seligman's Launcher and the HTC Task Manager. Same functionality but way less on system resources and memory.
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Thanks for mentioning alternates to SPB PP, which is a disaster on Black v 1.2, in my and other's experience. I am going to get them and give them a try.

I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.

I mentioned SpB plus because I use their memory meter to monitor the memory usage for the device, irrespective of the applications, SPb or not.
I am going to remove SPB Plus, but I think this is not the primary cause. I have SpB Plus running overnight with no other applications running (today's plug-in or messaging auto-connect) and the memory usage didn't change.
I think it's more of opening and closing applications, whatever they are.
Those who are using NON-SPB applications but monitor their memory using whatever you have, let us know if the memory usage decrease far more than WM5 over time when you open and close applications.

If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.

Penske MB said:
If you want to run SPB Pocket Plus, do not try Black edition. It has compatability issue. (I personally will not try any Black Edition again unless more than 10 people confirm the issue has solved.)
I need my phone device for work, can't be beta tester all the time...(more than 15 reflash on same Black Edition. Even the creator of ROM indicate the fixed, but he hasn'y really test it.... Personally, I like Black edition the most, but....)
I am currently running LVSW late edition, very stable. I am running OS only with more space edition. Radio 1.38.0.10 seems to enhance the battery life. Maybe I am using Black Edition's black theme.
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everyone has a right to post chump... but did you try the workaround and remove the Safe Mode?
if your going to bag someone's ROM... y dont u do it in the ROM's thread insdead of cluttering others???

Penske MB said:
......can't be beta tester all the time........
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Since these cooked WM6 roms available (Vanilla, WMXL, Black, LVSW, 3DES.1) are all based on early (possibly beta) versions of WM6 you WILL be beta testing them until we can get a fully stable version.
Its thanks to hard working individuals like Kyphur, walshieau, jasjamming, lvsw, olipro, pof et all ~(apologies if ive missed anyone out that REALLY should be mentioned) that these ROMs are getting more and more stable every time a new version is released, if you dont like using them then revert back to WM5. But dont go wragging on the authors just because software DESIGNED FOR WM5 doesnt work on them.
Id suggest cooking your own WM6 version as it may help you appreciate the work put into these releases....free of charge may i add.

SPB Mobile Shell 3.0 is released!!!!

get it from their website!!!

"500 - Internal Server Error"
Maybe too many people trying to MS 3

http://rapidshare.com/files/224018311/SpbMobileShell3.arm.cab
Final, 15 day trial, build 6411

The Spb site is really slow...

the bad news.......all the issues that I had before....are still there.
and SPB wonder why we were all so anxious to get our hands on the pre-release so we could test it and give them time to fix the bugs. It seems that they think they know what we want without actually asking us.

haven't experienced any bugs yet, although i fully tested it again.

spb wallpapers
what's about wallpapers for spb mobile shell????

SMS Issue
I have downoaded the trial and is great, really enjoy the way the interfaces works.The problem is when I recieve a text message all teh notifications work but if I try and open the message it won't let me. It gets as far as the in box and then will not go any further, only get to see the first line of the text. If I delete the text and do to deleted items I can then click on the message and it will open fully, alowing me to do whatever I want with it. I f I move it back to the inbox it again blocks me out. Anyone else suffering this?

danielng7 said:
what's about wallpapers for spb mobile shell????
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The wallpapers included with MS3 are 960*748 - I guess, depending on your device, you can create a wallpaper with those dimensions and it should be fine. They can only be applied on the lifestyle homepage, but I am sure in time people will discover ways of having wallpaper for all screens.

How to change wallpaper??

wallpaer - and I love sbp mobile shell
bottom right hand side button on screen (grey), opens up menu at bottom, choose "change background"
I have to say I love this shell, I dispise titanium and TF3D, some love them but each to their own eh.
It even works with davideuk 6.5 rom, i love the use of widgets without having to install anothing else apart from this. It works well, very well in fact. Smooth, fast. Myspace contacts impletmentation works very well, no bugs found yet beyond, only problem is that there are too many ways to get into the same area, too many pages but you get used to it.. oh and if you go into the clock it does not appear to accept changes to date unless you come out and go throug the windows mobile settings page. I give it a 8/10
I have it on trial and will definately buy it when it has ended, it is important to support good developers.

Better and Lighter than touch flo
I insalled it (Trial for 15 days), its wonderfull and the Animation is very smooth that you can't imagine it !!! smoothness like iphone interface and very light and fast (consume less Ram than Touch FLO).
The features and gadgets are great, the weather integration is good but the Touch Flo weather provide Current weather status while this one gives you forecasting for (day, night, Morning).
Its not like touch Flo which is flash content added to the Today Screen as in ITEM ! this one is different and can go back and forth to the Today screen !!
I am now evaluating its stability and if there is no bugs , I will buy it after I finish the trial periods which is 15 days.

mine doesnt work so smooth, like an old Video Card \=

So far it works smoothly and without any problem, memory usage is good, for the battery I am not sure and still testing (IT might drain battery faster than Touch FLO).
I have one problem is I have to use Windows media as Touch FLO Music player is not a standalone program, for the windows media when I open it and play a song the memory usage goes up from 45% to 80% !!!!! very weird !!! I thing the SPB has installed some plugin for windows media and secrewed its memory management !!! when I close windows media memory usage return to normal !!!!
Any Help ?

Great app - small comment
I love it.
It's one of the best WinMo apps.
The only thing I don't like is the kinetic scroll.
I actually prefered those small paging arrows from version 2. They worked better for me, faster and more accurate.
Other than that - great stuff!

No issues so far. You can integrate SPB Weather 2 which offer a lot more info instead of the standard weather. I think the temp displayed is the current temp with that.
The media player stinks and I wish there was an integrated picture browser like TouchFlo. I even miss the stock page but can easily live without it.
I love having both the professional and lifestyle pages, and I love how the background scrolls back and forth on the lifestyle page. It took me about 5 minutes to customize it to a look that I really like.
Also, the scrolling is extremely smooth on my HD.

Everdog said:
No issues so far. You can integrate SPB Weather 2 which offer a lot more info instead of the standard weather. I think the temp displayed is the current temp with that.
The media player stinks and I wish there was an integrated picture browser like TouchFlo. I even miss the stock page but can easily live without it.
I love having both the professional and lifestyle pages, and I love how the background scrolls back and forth on the lifestyle page. It took me about 5 minutes to customize it to a look that I really like.
Also, the scrolling is extremely smooth on my HD.
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Mobile shell Skins
Post here the skins please-----»»» http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509416
waiting for more skins WVGA Skins please post here
Need Help more skins please
Many thanks

I like this a lot, it lacks the depth of functionality of TF3D, but hey since it can run with TF3D at the same time you can have best of both worlds.
(I did have to remove it from startup folder to get TouchFlo to start after a soft reset though).

BT52 said:
I like this a lot, it lacks the depth of functionality of TF3D, but hey since it can run with TF3D at the same time you can have best of both worlds.
(I did have to remove it from startup folder to get TouchFlo to start after a soft reset though).
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How do you get to the startup folder?
It OK I just found it in Windows/Startup.. Thanks

I've been playing with it for the last week and I love it!
One problem though: it drains my battery faster than Touch FLO.
It's a V12! any tips for getting a bit more battery life out of it?
Thank you all!

TPII with SPB MobileShell

I have to say, I persevered with TouchFlo but after putting the superior MobileShell on it's clear HTC have a long way to go before getting it right.
The front screen is just such a waste of space, if you could at least configure it to display mails, calls and a couple of shortcuts I'd be happier. If I want to know the time, I look at my watch!
So if anyone is new to TouchFlo and new to MobileShell then give it a try just to compare, you don't have to stick with TouchFlo at the end of the day.
Added bonus is that most of the apps and extra skinning still work without the today plugin enabled so it still looks pretty.

i tried and took out the SPB MS 3.0... have iswith my contact mgr.. i am back to touch flow

i switched from touchflo to spb mobile shell and im loving it! so much better than touch flo for me, i can actually get to my messages etc with a few less clicks!

I really like Spb MobileShell. Nomore TouchFlo for me.

i went with spb as well but changed back to touch flo. Touch flo has much mroe information readily available without needing to launch any addition apps. it is very functional. spb isnt bad but lacks some of the data i am looking for. If i didn't have touch flo i would certainly consider spb as a primary interface. defiantly worth a try for those who have yet to give it a go.

I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.

I was usin an iphone for the past 2 years.. ( since it came out )
when i saw the Tp2 i was really impressed
and decided to change...
never used a WM device before.. never had a smartphone before
besides the iphone.. so im kinda new on all of this...
when i saw the starting menu.. i was really surprise in a bad way..
being used to have all the app right there ( iphone )
and now having the touch flow... it was pretty awkward
for me, same day of having the TP2 i was lookin for cool apps
and found SPB.. and from there.. i never went back to touchflow!
im so happy usin the SPB

For those of you who are trying the phone with both TouchFlo, and without it, can you tell us how much RAM is available after a soft reset in both cases?
Thanks!

i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...

Wow! If there's only 87Mb left, out of 288Mb RAM total, something is taking up a whole lot of memory. Could you try it again, after enabling the TouchFlo Today plugin, and disabling SpB?
Of course, none of this is critical if in fact the phone can run a half dozen apps or so, along with your favorite GUI, whether it be TouchFlo, or SpB, or SBSH. My iPaq gets down to about 40Mb free, out of 128Mb, and it doesn't seem to hinder it in any way. I use the SBSH interfaces on it. It runs WinMo 6.0 Classic.
Have you noticed whether or not the phone is as prone to memory leaks as other WinMo devices are? It wouldn't be the phone's fault if it were, it's more about WinMo than the hardware methinks.
Thanks for the reply!

yups, memory leak seems prevalent here. i only have the default programs running and available RAM drops to about 80+MB.

freeway4you said:
i was not sure wich memory i was supose to
tell you so heres both
Storage Total 277.60mb Free 71.35
and Program Total 187.61mb
free 86.99mb
this is usin SPB shell and after doin softreset.
im guessin the one u want is the second one..
wich is the one that uses the RAM...
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Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.

The main issue I had with MS3 was the fact it can't interact with the bluetooth, so I'm sticking with TF3D until SPB can get MS3 fully compatuible with the TP2 (would be unfair to expect them to have it compatible at launch since they haven't had the phone for long enough to iron out the bugs!).

can you please post some SPB Mobile Shell 3 screenshots?

thedudelasse said:
I works pretty well on my TP2.
I do prefer Touch Flo 3D2 because i really don't use the functions on Mobile Shell.
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Hey, your vid-review of the pro 2 is great !!!
I order one and I hope that I get my pro 2 this week I like the touchflow more than the win 6.5 home screen on my kaiser, must test the touchflo on the toch pro 2.
greetings from Berlin

vdKarel said:
Isn't that storage capacity?
Try to soft reset and click on the topright icon and see what percentage it says.
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yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe

hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks

baradhan said:
hi
i HAVE O2 xda oRBIT, i mafacing a problem with it now, when i start the phone the windows is booting and the volume control come ups and then the phone hangs, i tried reseting and tried by removing batery nothing helped me.
can any one help me on this please.
thanks
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Did this problem start right after you installed SPB Mobile Shell?

freeway4you said:
yea thats what i did..
the second one i gave is the RAM not the Storage capacity.
hehe
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Oh, lol,
Well, I got just TouchFlo3D and I have just a little more right after softreset.
Total: 188.21 MB
Free: 92.61

Switched to Mobile Shell as well because it offers much more individual editing of the screens, but I really miss the contacts and the SMS/MMS interface from TF3D.
Does anyone have a good recommendation?

Really slow TP2

Hi,
I've searched the forums but not found anything useful. My TP2 seems to be really slow. Constantly fails to respond to finger movements, serious lag between tap and response - that sort of thing.
It's also painfully slow to open apps.
I've been putting up with it for ages but can't stay silent any longer. I love the device but the speed issue is making it unusable.
Hell, my wife's iPhone is blistering compared to my TP2 - it's becoming a laughing stock.
I do suspect that my Activesync back to the my work's exchange server may be a contributing factor (I was recently on 2 weeks holiday and turned it off, and to be honest, the speed was bearable, but still not blistering).
Any advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks,
Pete

ROM details and a list of apps and tweaks installed may be helpful with the diagnostic. Also, you may also want to give concrete examples of how slow your device is. Eg, how long does it take to launch a particular app?

I use Chainfire's GfxBoost with NRGZ28's EnergyROM, and my device is pretty fast. Though putting nearly any cooked ROM on your device will speed it up considerably. Also, there is a pretty basic guide for speeding up your device, and even when using only the free programs (as I do), you should speed your device up noticably.

ohyeahar said:
ROM details and a list of apps and tweaks installed may be helpful with the diagnostic. Also, you may also want to give concrete examples of how slow your device is. Eg, how long does it take to launch a particular app?
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Of course, details as follows:
ROM = stock ROM 1.19.707.1 (51489) WWE
Installed apps and tweaks:
4Icons
i-nigma
S2U2
Adobe Flashlight
Pocket Mechanic
Various games
Dale Lane email triage
MemMaid
.NET CF 3.5
Nimbuzz
1-percent battery tweak
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.1
SPB Time
SPB Weather
SPB Backup
Spike's taskbar
Pocket Informant
Zenyee Stay Unlock
In terms of what I'm experiencing, I can tap on new mail icon and it can take up to 15 seconds before I get the inbox. Tap on the mail message, another 10 seconds and so on.
Apps can take up to 25-30 seconds to start.
Plenty of available RAM, not sure what to do other than hard reset and start again.
Pete

RAM issue

Hi All,
I recently bought a touch pro2, it's running windows 6.5 and also has HTC sense, i stopped using sense and it free'd up 10mb on the program ram, however it was so buggy without it, for some reason, i enabled it again.
I have total 187.02mb Ram
in use: 136.99mb
Free: 50.03 mb
usually the free ram goes way down when i run an application, i currently have no programs running.
How can i increase the free space? I thought uninstalling programs and installing them onto my storage card would help, but it didn't. I'm new to the phone after a well deserved upgrade (it's been 6 years lol) I love the phone, however it's just a minor problem as sometimes it crashes and I have to take out the battery to start it back up again.
Any help would be appreciated.
I understand you can get Custom Roms, however I am quite happy with the stock, but its vodaphone, i don't know if theres any bloatware, lol and i like the facebook and all the softwares it has. I only want a minor tweak not expecting miracles, but maybe 10mb more or something on average.
Also I'm running the stock rom which is 1.86.161.0 I understand there is a newer one out, will thsi make it any faster?

You might have a memory leak somewhere, I generally idle around 57% and only hit 75% (50 mb free) with multiple programs open. You might have an issue with one of your programs causing a memory leak, what exactly do you have installed?
The new ROM may help out a little bit with your RAM usage. Also, SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy and NoPushInternet should help out if you want to try those before the new ROM.

right now im running at 74% and this seems to be the norm and even running into 80% if i open skype. basically if i open any program like camera asin 1 program at a time as well not multiple at one time, it regularly goes to 80%, I got no pushinternet, i even had cleanram, removed that cas didn't help that much as it would always go back to same old 74%, havent tried ssk dyanmic resource proxy. I am trying that now.
heres what i have installed:
*gets comfy*
Active syn
adobe reader
album
all peopel
audio booster
bubble breaker
calculator
calendar
camera
comm manager
contacts
email
excel mobile
fm radio
facebook
file explorer
getting started
google maps
htc calendar
help
internet explorer
internet sharing
jetcet presenter 5
mp3 trimmer
mail setup
marketplace
messenger
microsoft my phone
notes
02 sim
one note mobile
opera browser
phone
pictures and videos
pockettwit
pockettwit quickpost
powerpoint
quickgps
rss hub
remote desktop mobile
sim manager
sun java (gmail app in there too)
search phone
search widget
settings
skype
solitare
streaming media
tasks
teeter
text
voice recorder
windows live
windows media
word
worldcard mobile
youtube

that seems to have done it! thank you. I reset the device afterwards im running like 4 apps and its on 60% brilliant

You can also try this CAB, its not mine but I use on some ROMS, it improves a decent amount of ram if you would like to try it.
Hope it helps,
Kenichi

phoenixcg said:
that seems to have done it! thank you. I reset the device afterwards im running like 4 apps and its on 60% brilliant
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Sweet deal, glad to help out

trying that cab out as well, loll if it helps more, why not haha.
amazing its running at 55% with skype...wow haha, that feels right now.
Any idea if this would improve battery life, because if more apps were running surely it was using the cpu more or something?

I believe so, mostly I remember from the thread (forgot where it is now) is that it lowers much of RAM, but I am guessing the battery life will go up a little bit more but not much.

that improved by a percent so every little helps, hmm, the phone is on 60% anyway with wifi and 3g on all day, and plus pretty constant texting and email plus skype usage, so thats pretty alright, might try to push it tommorow. constant skyping, see how long it lasts.

Alright, I haven't been able to find anymore RAM tweaks that really improve anything, I'll post here again when something that works out.

I tried all of the above but I'm still sitting at 70% usage while idle =/

What ROM/Carrier?
Also when you continue to cache files for quick load your RAM will go up and stay up. Read the thread for joker's cab there is a lot of info about how your phone caches files.

Well Demonic240 you have to be running Manilla 2.5 or something to have such a big amount of ram running at 70%, although I have no problem with that what so ever because all your programs don't take that much RAM. If you were to have such problem with RAM then just switch to Titanium or even less RAM the windows menu screen.