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Please test it with your favourite JAVA appz and post here the results.
I've tested Gmail and Opera MINI: not working, everything was working fine with Black 2.0
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definitrion of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
philg2000 said:
Can you clarify - Was this working with Black 2.5?
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Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
I, too, have midlets not working since the launch of Black 3.0 and 3.01. The midlets used to work back in 2.5, 2.0 and many various cooked roms available out there. I speculate that something related to the midlet manager had been modified that led to the malfunctioning of midlets.
Apart from this issue the Black 3.0 had been working wonders for me.
sergiopi said:
Simply I haven't tested black 2.5. In the "BIG" 3d I read other two reports on the same issue, without clear definition of the name of the applet.
I have only a "lamp" icon and I tested both JAR an JAD directly downloaded, without results. WM6 beta bug? JJ "optimizzation" Bug?
Other users, using the same WM6 build can help may be...
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Same here, I got the "lamp" icon as well. My midlet is a proprietary one developed by my company and hence wouldn't be the same as yours, segiopi.
Judging from this observation, I'd say perhaps the midlet manager is treating the midlets somewhat differently than before and is giving a runtime error to all of them.
Try "mobile.cmcmarkets.com" and download a midlet from there, compare that to a few other midlet apps, they should give the same "lamp" shaped icon and would "fail to run" as we click on it.
yes me too. gmail midlet was working in black2.5, but failed in 3.0 (havent tried 3.0.1).
gmail, voipbuster, mgmaps & opera mini don't work. ( i guess no midlet will work in black 3.0 until a fix is released)
lamp icon showed in all the midlets & "failed to run" message appear when launching any midlet.
They worked fine in black 2.5.
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
hi jj, thanks for the fast response. will try it out.
thx a lot, I still using miniOpera instead of full big opera and lot of old games in JAVA.
the new midlet manager works. thanks.
*edit* the behaviour is different from the original midlet manager. although softkeys worked within gmail midlet, but sometimes need to press twice to activate. screen touch no longer working for the softkeys. and performance seems to be slower then intent midlet manager.
JJ,
Thanks for the quick response, I downloaded your new midlet manager, my apps will now install and I will be able to 'launch' them. However, a few secs after I 'launch' the midlets, it would say midlet isn't responding and gives me two options 1) Wait 2) Kill the midlet.
Would you have any other midlet managers available? I've googled around the web and noticed the midlet manager you provided is great when the midlets work; however, its compatibility is a major issue.
GMAIL MIDlet works
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
that's strange. gmail midlet works in esmertec midlet manager as you can see in my post earlier in this same thread.
have you tried downloading it again? or delete the old one to test? i had problem in the intent midlet manager, and to get it uninstall i delete it (somewhere hidden within application data directory) directly.
Gmail works fine
Gmail works fine here too ... only gripe is that it doesn't remember the login credentials after a SR ... but that's not a midlet issue I suppose ...
jasjamming said:
ok guys
i have been speaking to a number of cookers and it seems that the OEM app "tao intent midlet manager" is not compatible with newer wm6 builds.
hence i have something even better for you (kudos to mUn)
a better midlet manager and support full screen applications too, opera works great on it.
download it from post #2 in my black 3 thread..
this cab will overwrite the links to the midlet manager when u install it.
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JJ,
are you sure? cos it works fine with LVSW 3.30.0.9
fourcc said:
new midlet manager is really nice, a bit slow but nicer than intent one. it slowdown my tytn a lot when having it launched, but at least works. thx a lot JJ.
voipbuster runs fine
mgmaps runs fine
opera mini runs fine
gmail doesn't work
"sorry gmail will not work on your phone. your phone doesn't have the appropiate certificate to communicate with the server. try accesing gmail in your mobile browser at http://mail.gmail.com"
Any idea why i can't use gmail?
or how to get the appropiate certificates to be able to run it?
gmail requirements says:
the phone need a class 3 Verisign certificate with serial number 70:BA:E4:1D:109:29:34:B6:38:CA:7B:03:CC:BA:BF. it should come with the phone.
Why i haven't it? and the other black 3.0 users have it?
teorically it can be got at https://www.verisign.com/cgi-bin/support/rootcert/getrootcert.cer but i've tried it but it doesn't yet run.
any idea in how to get a valid class 3 certiificate from verisign that works in my tytn?
TIA
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I've installed 1.11 , from mobile.google.com, gmail, get faster Gmail and works
yes, i've deleted it, reinstalled it. SR. and it still doesn't work.
i never used a midlet with this nice phone...simply cos i dont find anyone on internet... and normal jar\jar file for phone are not good...
what about post here ur favourite midlet? programs...games...and so on?
lets go
Super midlet Manager
In his new rom meschle anounced he will be using esmertec's jbed midlet manager.
i thought i'd get a headstart by installing that on the 1.0 rom. And all i can say is that it is just super! you can use midlets full screen and very fast!
also when you follow the info on the following thread you can even make direct shortcuts to your midlets and remove the annoying popups about going online.
appz i have installed now are Gmail & Opera Mini and both work super!
check out this info: http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
Meh, i could only find free midlet sites for old phones, like siemens sl45 etc. Dunno if there are any good midlets for ppc.
kakainis said:
Meh, i could only find free midlet sites for old phones, like siemens sl45 etc. Dunno if there are any good midlets for ppc.
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i know i dont find theme for touchscreen phone...and isnt so nice hehe
anyone have some?
I just installed esmertec's jbed midlet manager.
Indeed much better than the default java midlet manager, although when connecting for the first time to the web with a midlet, you will also still get 2 warnings. The good thing is that this is the only time they will bother you with warnings.
Found some stuff here, havent tried myself tho.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52997428/75_Java_Games_240x320.rar
kakainis said:
Found some stuff here, havent tried myself tho.
http://rapidshare.com/files/52997428/75_Java_Games_240x320.rar
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ill download later...ask for 169 minutes ^^ lol
Just a question to yall, was wondering if anybody is running this. I installed it last night, it gives opera 4 a cleaner look, it may even run a bit smoother also. Just my curiosity.
Interesting. Got a screen shot?
Not, yet but i'll get the link. That vito copy paste never really worked out for me
http://forum.dashsmartzone.com/redirect/?to=http%3A%2F%2Fmy.opera.com%2Fcommunity%2Fforums%2Ftopic.dml%3Fid%3D210354
Here is some info on some java stuff.....It's almost an overload
MIDLets yuk!! Is there any reason why you would want to use the Opera MIDLet instead of "Opera for windows mobile" - the native version?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobile/
indiekiduk said:
MIDLets yuk!! Is there any reason why you would want to use the Opera MIDLet instead of "Opera for windows mobile" - the native version?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobile/
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Yes, the zoom function of opera mini, like the iphone and nokia browsers
indiekiduk said:
MIDLets yuk!! Is there any reason why you would want to use the Opera MIDLet instead of "Opera for windows mobile" - the native version?
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobile/
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They have a LOT of advantages. See my related review of the final version of OM4.
i upgraded to the 6.1 ROM today. it kicks ass!! thanks everyone. i have one question. is there a setting so that when i'm using the internet i go to the "regular" website rather than the mobile version?
when using wm6.0, i could log into my yahoo account and it was the same as the site on my desktop pc. now, after installing wm6.1, i get directed to yahoo! mobile which doesn't have all the features of the pc version. specifically, i can't check my realtime fantasy baseball stats for the day.
do i need to change something in the connection setting for IE?
thanks.
mariod1269 said:
i upgraded to the 6.1 ROM today. it kicks ass!! thanks everyone. i have one question. is there a setting so that when i'm using the internet i go to the "regular" website rather than the mobile version?
when using wm6.0, i could log into my yahoo account and it was the same as the site on my desktop pc. now, after installing wm6.1, i get directed to yahoo! mobile which doesn't have all the features of the pc version. specifically, i can't check my realtime fantasy baseball stats for the day.
do i need to change something in the connection setting for IE?
thanks.
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I don't use IE that much, so I can't help you there. But I can recommend using Opera Mini (free), Opera Mobile (not free) or signing up for the Skyfire Beta (free). Also do a search for Deepfish on this forum, get the cab and try that, it may work.
If im not mistaken....Deepfish needs an activation code. That code is provided by Microsoft.
we have deepfish on this forum?
and the same thing happens in opera mini on some sites...ive managed to trick it inot skippin the mobile mail layout but other segments are in wap format.
i just downloaded opera mobile, and opera mini...opera mobile won't open on my dash...i click the icon and it flashes the opera mobile screen for like 1/10th of a second then goes back to my homescreen.
opera mini gives me the same issue...it opens yahoo! mobile.
i'm thinking something in my connection setup is letting yahoo! know that im accessing via a mobile. can i change something in my connection setting to trick yahoo! into thinking i'm accessing from a pc?
thanks again.
Mikey1022 said:
If im not mistaken....Deepfish needs an activation code. That code is provided by Microsoft.
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If I'm not mistaken, I've downloaded Deepfish from xda before and used it(shhhh!), but it wasn't on my blackjack, that was on my Wizard. I prefer opera mini.
no not your phone, its yahoo
Actually on Opera Mobile you can, if you go into menu->tools->General->scroll to "identify as" switch to desktop computer.
Then hed over to www.yahoo.com
You're usually sent to the mobile version of the site. I wish I can remember the actual link to the desktop page but I can't. I had it on my favorites before I flashed my phone. Sry dude. There is a page you can go to though.
Mikey1022 said:
Actually on Opera Mobile you can, if you go into menu->tools->General->scroll to "identify as" switch to desktop computer.
Then hed over to www.yahoo.com
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i re-installed opera mobile and it seems to work this time.
thanks...
however, if anyone knows if i need to change my proxy settings or whatever (noob alert) so IE will go to "regular" yahoo!, please let me know. i don't want to have to pay for opera mobile after the 30day trial expires.
I would recommend using Opera Mini. This program kicks but and its really fast.
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I would recommend using Opera Mini. This program kicks but and its really fast.
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yes, but opera mini sends me to yahoo! mobile...not the "full" yahoo! site. that's the problem...yahoo! mobile doesn't have all the functions the full version has. opera mobile allows me access to the regular yahoo, but when my trial expires, i'm back to square one. i guess i'll just pony up the $20 or whatever to register with opera.
mariod1269 said:
yes, but opera mini sends me to yahoo! mobile...not the "full" yahoo! site. that's the problem...yahoo! mobile doesn't have all the functions the full version has. opera mobile allows me access to the regular yahoo, but when my trial expires, i'm back to square one. i guess i'll just pony up the $20 or whatever to register with opera.
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I believe its yahoo and your device itself. When a website, ie, yahoo, has a mobile version as well, it checks to see what kind of device you are using and directly sends you to the correct one. I believe by default and even on cooked roms that the PIE is set to identify itself as Pocket Internet Explorer to work in conjuction with mobile website version but you can just change that by you using either Schaps configuration or Tweak2k. Search for it on here.
That's a damn good question. I'd be interested in finding out how to "mask" as a desktop computer if possible as well.
I don't have a solution for the yahoo home page but you can bookmark the main fantasy page and it will have the full desktop version using Opera Mini.
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy or
fantasysports.yahoo.com both work for me.
aaronb532 said:
I don't have a solution for the yahoo home page but you can bookmark the main fantasy page and it will have the full desktop version using Opera Mini.
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy or
fantasysports.yahoo.com both work for me.
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this works perfectly!!! you, sir, are the BOMB!
thanks :
hey i got my sky fire thing back but it wont install does anyone know why?
I was wondering if anyone has been able to use the Gmail java app on WM 6.1 on the excalibur? When I try to log in after I run it, there is some error, the applet closes and I get the message "This file cannot be viewed on this device".
Any ideas? I tried to install a newer Jbed+opera mini+gmail pack yesterday from one of the other forums, but it didn't work very well and had display problems compared to the Jbed version included in the 6.1 roms. Are the newer esmertec jbed versions better? I found several 2008 revisions on the forums, but can't tell if theyre for smartphone or just for WM pro.
Thanks in advance!
Why not just add your gmail account to your phone and skip the java app? It's unnecessary.
I have the same problem. Luckily Opera Mini works fine.
uansari1 said:
Why not just add your gmail account to your phone and skip the java app? It's unnecessary.
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Have to agree, unless you mean using the gmail layout as homepage, to which i don't think works on Mobile devices?
I have been using gmail with the phone's built in email system, which has been OK, except that I cant seem to send any emails through gmail's smtp server. I wanted to switch to the java app because one of the local cell phone providers has a cheap unlimited on device browsing option that doesn't work with the phone's email system but apparently does with the java gmail app. Looks like I'm stuck with opera mini then! Thanks!
I would go to your Gmail account and enable IMAP, then use that on the Excalibur's standard email account handler. IMAP is far superior to POP/SMTP especially when you check mail from multiple locations- any deletions (or even marking something read) are passed up to the server so you only manage your emails once.
There are tutorials on Gmail's site that detail getting IMAP enabled, and also how to configure your typical mobile phone to use the IMAP settings. It was easy for me.
I think the gmail java app works by IMAP also. At least that was my experience with gmail mobile on a blackberry.
I am having the same problem as the initial post. has anyone figured this out? please don't tell me to use wm's native email client. I know I can do that. i need to use gmail's java midlet. i have tried installing other midlet managers but they don't work either. is there a way to uninstall the dash's native gui java midlet manager?
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I was wondering if anyone has been able to use the Gmail java app on WM 6.1 on the excalibur? When I try to log in after I run it, there is some error, the applet closes and I get the message "This file cannot be viewed on this device".
Any ideas? I tried to install a newer Jbed+opera mini+gmail pack yesterday from one of the other forums, but it didn't work very well and had display problems compared to the Jbed version included in the 6.1 roms. Are the newer esmertec jbed versions better? I found several 2008 revisions on the forums, but can't tell if theyre for smartphone or just for WM pro.
Thanks in advance!
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Using the phones email client takes away your search ability as well as the label system which I use alot.