Windows Live (connection) problems - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam ROM Development

Hi there,
I noticed Windows Live messenger also connects through gprs (when configured under connections), when a wireless lan connection is available. Internet Explorer works fine, and doesn´t try to connect through gprs when wifi is available and enabled. This sucks big time.
Besides this I wonder if there is already a fix for disabling windows live messenger putting it´s contacts in the phone contact list??
Hope someone can help..
regards,
DM

Windows Live defaults to gprs. Just disconnect gprs, then sign in and when it starts connecting to gprs, hit cancel. As long as you do have wifi connected it will use that.
I think MS had to make it use gprs to keep the networks happy to include it.
The sync issue hasnt been resolved in the latest live - it is an option to merge dupes but it doesnt seem any better

unwired4 said:
Windows Live defaults to gprs. Just disconnect gprs, then sign in and when it starts connecting to gprs, hit cancel. As long as you do have wifi connected it will use that.
I think MS had to make it use gprs to keep the networks happy to include it.
The sync issue hasnt been resolved in the latest live - it is an option to merge dupes but it doesnt seem any better
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Thank you for replying. This wasn´t the case with WM5 and pocket msn.
Also, why does internet explorer not have this issue? It really sucks. the solution you´re saying, doesn´t work for me. It keeps trying to connect while a wifi connection is working for Internet explorer.

When it did this on mine, I would use connection manager to stop the wifi connection and then start it again, and then, mysteriously, it would stop trying to connect the gprs. Worth a try?

My windows live never successfully connects through 3G/GPRS always times out. Works through wifi no problems, and internet works fine through 3G/GPRS.
Any ideas??
S.K.

Marisa, thanks for your reply. Your suggestion works for me only occasionaly. I´m thinking of removing live messenger completely. Is there a way to do this? I installed it on the clean LVSW ROM of 26 march...
regards,
DM

does anyone know how I can uninstall live messenger from wm6? thanks

@dmxl
re-install the OS only that is your best bet to remove the MS Live messenger. that is what i did on my device to get rid the MS Live messenger and i never do that install again.

otoro_315 said:
@dmxl
re-install the OS only that is your best bet to remove the MS Live messenger. that is what i did on my device to get rid the MS Live messenger and i never do that install again.
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Thanks for your reply. That's terrible!! Haha. Any good alternatives for Instant messaging?

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MDA III - Newbie Set-Up Confusion (MSN Messenger)

Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt
OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt
I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.
I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?
I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet
Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !
Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.
I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?

Blackbeery GPRS and WIFI drives me nuts....

Hi there!
Has anyone an idea, how to make the Wifi and the Blackberry GPRS
Connection work at the same time?
It drives me nuts, as i am turning on WIFI, the Blackberry GPRS gets
disconnected. BUT, in 99% of the cases it reconnects the GPRS within
5 seconds. So there is not enough time to connect to any WIFI AP.
As i want to sync via WIFI its very annoying.
I know i can turn of the Radio, so that GPRS is disabled, but then
i cannot receive any phone calls, thats NOT what i want.
Any ideas, anyone???
cheers
Darwin69
PS: i forgot: Using Blueangel MDA III from Austrian T-Mobile, with newest Austrian German ROM from T-Mobile (like the one on the xda ftp).
PPS: Thanx for the extrom unlocking tool, really good stuff.
I must admit, I've never had that problem, but I make sure that I close ALL applications before turning on the WiFi. It can take 10-20 seconds for the WiFi interface to estbalish a connection and get an IP address. During that time, the device will try and connect via GPRS when you launch email, internet explorer etc
Hi!
The great problem is not an application. the problem is the
blackberry service, which you cannot deactivate without loosing
all data and settings :evil:
thanks to t-mobile
cheers
darwin69
Ouch that could get expensive if you didn't realise - I'm glad I don't have blackberry services, just plain old POP3 & SMTP email
hi!
no it actually doesnt, because t-moblle has an extra gprs setting for the blackberry client. when you are connected with the blackberry gprs, there are no costs. on the other hand, you can only use the blackberry service with this gprs connection, no internet, nothing.
its really annoying. No one else any ideas about that ??? pleeeease :roll:
cheers
darwin69
Blackberry and GPRS
Hi,
just use a taskmanager like "supertasks" which supports starting and stopping of services. Go to the services tab and stop the blackberry service. Then you can use WiFi as you like and afterwards you just turn on the service again. Nice handling so.
Wolfgang

Question Re: Live Messenger Connection

Ok I have searched in this forum for my problem but no clear cut solution found so far.
I am really hoping that someone could help here.
My windows live messenger will only connect through GPRS/3G.
It will not connect through wifi/wlan no matter what.
I have tried all the different methods of changing connections to "My work network" as well as pressing the cancel bubble when it initiates the connection and nothing really works.
Does anybody know of any solution to this.
If not where can i get the old msn messenger from?
Thanks in advance
I dont think it's strictly true it only connects through 3g/gprs.
When my phone is connected to my PC via ActiveSync on the USB cable I can connect to Windows Live as well...
I do remember someone else reporting problems with WiFi though. Try looking back through older messages in this forum
Phew, at last someone is interested in looking at this.
I have tried signing in when I am connected to my PC and it worked. The connection bubble to GPRS came up and I cancelled right away so it used the PC to connect.
However WIFI is still impossible on my softbank. If anyone else finds an answer please share it with us.
You know, I have the same problem. Live messenger won't connect over wifi. However, my problem doing it is with my Wizard, not Hermes.
One thing I've noticed is that it seems to change depending on what ROM I flash to it. Meaning, I'll install one person's cooked version of WM6, and I can connect WLM without an issue over wifi. But I may try someone else's and that verion won't. So, my thought is that it may be a problem with either a specific build of Windows Live, or a specific build of WM6. Unfortunately I haven't been able to narrow it down to a particular one yet.

problem with live messenger on wm 6

whenever I want to sign in to msn live messenger, my hermes tries to connect to gprs connection. even when I have free direct access to internet through wifi connection.
I tried everything but it still tries to connect.
Apart from live messenger I can connect to every type of internet service through the active wifi connection.
Is this a bug o the live messenger ?
Is there any newer version that beats this bug ?
I believe that it is a "feature" of WLM that no user actually wants but the network operators are quite happy with and probably had a say in.
Best workaround I know of is to have a network set up with no connections defined, and select that in Settings > Connections tab > Connections > Advanced tab > Select Networks. You may already have a network defined there called "Wifi" (my Orange M3100 did).
If you do that, all apps will be forced through wifi (if enabled), but if you want to use GPRS, you will have to switch the network back.
Anyone know of any apps that will make it quick and easy to change this with a single button click? I hoped that Phoneweaver would have it in the profiles but it doesn't
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
unwired4 said:
Disconnect from grps...then sign in to msn... then click cancel when it says "connecting"
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interesting, it works.
but if I reset, then connect to gprs for any other reason.
and then disconnect.
then it never connects to msn with no gprs connection.
after a reset it works again.
thanks for the workaround...

Skype via Active Sync not working!?

Why skype doesn't work via active sync? It says that it's impossible to connect and check my network connection... But Opera and youtube work well!
Can you help me please?
Thanx!
The first time you use Skype, it needs to be connected via Wifi or a mobile internet connection. After the initial setup, you can use Skype via active sync.
Thank you very much for your answer! I'll try it asap!
Good luck, let me know if it works!
It worked well via wifi, but is impossible to connect via active sync!
Now is a bit better cause I can at least access to the skype interface but my status is always gray cause I'm not connected...
It is the last version of both skype and active sync...
I' ve found this from on http://support.skype.com:
Does Skype for Windows® phones work with ActiveSync connection?
Yes, using Skype for Windows® phones with ActiveSync does work. Sometimes however you cannot connect to Skype with first or second try.
We recommend using ActiveSync connection only for chatting.
Anyway it doesn't connect afeter many tries...
I had the same problem a while back. I'm not sure what has fixed it, perhaps I have flashed some ROMs in the meantime...
On a skype forum, I recall people were guessing whether it had to do with the Active Sync 4.5 setting 'This computer is connected to' (work/internet). I don't think it helps, but it's worth a shot.
I have the same problem. The skype does not work when connected through acivesync. It works with wifi. Is there a solution to this problem.....?

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