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How to power off sx-66

I have the Siemens sx-66 pocket pc phone and it really got annoying having to wait 1 minute for the device to go into standby mode. Because my power button no longer powers the device off. So i googled and searched around until i found this freeware program http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/psshutxp.shtml It is a utility that when once installed, can be used to power down, reset, or turn off the backlight. With an interphase similar to the windows xp power-down prompt.
This i found to be much better than waiting a full minute for the device to power down.
I mapped the program to my calendar button since i never use calendar anyway, and when the program pops up, i tap "Turn Off" and it instantly puts the device into standby.
This doesn't fix the Hardware power button malfunction, But it sure beats waitin' around wasting precious battery.

Hi
I'd recommend hard resetting your PDA and starting all over again.
I'm 99% sure that your device will go to standby correctly after cleaning it up (hard reset).
Remember to backup your data.

already tried hard resetting. Once accidently (let my sister play with it until the battery was COMPLETELY dead). and 2 more times intentionally from reccomendations (after making back-ups of course). Still had the same problem afterwards. I'm happy with the program.
p.s. Best part is it's free!

Few issues

My first issue is that my keyboard stops functioning when i type. i have to go to the menu and reactivate the QWERTY. the QWERTY is already bubbled i just have to pick it again. Its weird my girlfriends phone has the same problem.
also sometimes when i create a new text my phone turns off i have to take out the battery for it to turn on again.
any solutions?
also it randomly switches to another app that i didnt even open... and it loads super slow any ideas?

Hard Reset!
Try to hard reset your phone...although you did not write what ROM you are using?!
I am using stock 6.5 and have never had any problems whatsoever.

my phone is completely stock. what do you mean by hard reset? the reset button under the battery cover? wont that reset everything and delete everything?

The reset button under the battery cover is just for a soft reset (like restarting your computer, it turns off and then turns back on by itself) and you don't loose any information. To hard reset, you need to turn the phone off then hit the call button, end button, and the power button all at the same time. This will erase everything an put it back to the out-of-the-box state. Your user manual will probably better explain since mine is from recent memory.

any other ideas why this might be happening?
also it randomly switches to another app that i didnt even open... and it loads super slow any ideas?

Cannot get to tricolor screen. lost hardspl?

Hi,
I decided to try out some new ROMS in general as I hadn't updated my phone in ages. I knew I wanted to try out the android version, so I tried the following steps:
1) updated my version of hardspl to 3.28 as the version I had was very old.
2) installed one of the official UK windows ROM to check out the latest vendor offering and update my radio before trying android. think it was the latest O2 one.
3) installed Myn’s Warm Donut to NAND
4 ) installed Incubus26Jc's Super Eclair to NAND
Now, I wanted to try some other windows roms, but cannot get to the tricolored screen. I have tried lots of times, several techniques, but no sign of the tricolor.
I read somewhere that installing an OEM ROM wipes out the hardspl. Is this what has happened? If so, is there a way to re-hardspl my phone from the sd-card (as I cannot make activesync connections anymore), or a way to install a windows-rom from the sd-card without going through the tricolor screen?
Any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated.
Best regards,
ET

As far as I am aware flashing a stock rom will not remove HardSPL, in fact I have flashed one of my kaisers with so many roms I have lost count, but never lost HardSPL, even with the latest generic HTC rom, which is pretty much the last word in stock roms as far as kaiser is concerned.
I'm not certain what has happened, but not getting the bootloader is, I'm afraid, very serious, if you have no access to the bootloader then it is very difficult to flash anything.
I'm going to have a good look around some wiki and forum pages, see what I can find out, in the meantime, can you confirm that you have something you can boot to? Even if it's android on nand then there may be some way of figuring out what has happened, and the hope of a fix.
From your post may I assume that all your attempts to get the bootloader ended with a normal boot of some sort?

Hi! Thanks for your very quick reply!
I can currently boot into android, with no probs and have a 2gb sd card I can access via an adapter on the pc.
I tried accessing the bootloader via holding camera and power down, then pressing reset for 3 seconds. also tried holding the buttons down for different permutations of time up to ~30-45 secs. no joy.
Also tried the battery out. put in battery. press power, then camera; or power and camera together.
Everytime I have tried it, i stay on the O2 logo, then the linux bootup stuff flies past.
I suppose the button assignments can't have been switched as the bootloader should be before any of the android stuff, right? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Button assignment can be changed after the OS has booted, but during boot they are hardcoded.
As long as it boots, then the bootloader is still there, and functioning, without a bootloader the phone would not boot at all, I'm actually wondering if the camera button has failed?

yeah, i was wondering about that too. is there a quick way to check within android? all the buttons are different from win. e.g red phone puts phone to sleep and of course there is no camera app to take photos in...

Well since you still got a working nand flashed you could install Warm Donut, camera works in that, however perhaps a simpler way might be just to press it gently, all the way in, if it is working correctly you should feel two 'click' positions, it's not always easy to diagnose hardware failures, but if the internal switch has broken/come adrift, you may be able to feel it.

ok, will try both & post back tomorrow. thanks for your help.

hmm... i think checking camera button in android is not possible because the camera app dont use the hardwarebutton. You have to press a button on screen to take a picture. You can check some buttons in linux bootup phase like the hardwarekeys on front. but not the camera button and the other sidemounted keys...

you can do this to test the camera button (in android):
- switch into text mode: fn + left softkey
- press camera button and tab somewhere on the screen
is there an output with s.th. like "TS-Calibration" then camera button is working

Hmmm, I don't think the camera button is working. During android boot up, all the hard keys output a character to the screen apart from the camera button. toastys suggestion did not yield a camera result either.
This makes sense, as I have tried a ridiculous amount of times to get to the tricolor screen.
has anyone got any ideas of how to load a windows rom back onto nand and bypass the botloader? If not, i guess my only option is to dismantle the phone in the hope that the non-functional camera button is due to a loose contact.
Thanks for the help guys.

No output = no camrea key i'm afraid, it does sound like either a fractured solder joint or something similar, not an easy repair, and yes it will require dismantling to get at the mainboard.
If you have the equipment then simply reflowing the solder joints on the switch should sort it.
As far as I'm aware there is no way to flash without access to the bootloader, however it might be possible to rig up a temporary camera switch using two pieces of thin rework wire, although I don't recommend it without previous experience of surface mount soldering

I'll let you know how it goes.

toasty_ said:
you can do this to test the camera button (in android):
- switch into text mode: fn + left softkey
- press camera button and tab somewhere on the screen
is there an output with s.th. like "TS-Calibration" then camera button is working
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i tried this for fun. it caused bad calibration when i came out of text mode (fn + right soft key).
cool to find text mode though. that works fine

Hehe i tried this too.
For people who have bad calibration after this: You can fix it with "Dev Tools". Goto "Pointer Location" and you will see what exactly happen to your calibration when you touch the screen. To fix the calibration use the stylus, press & hold camerabutton and tip all corners of your screen clockwise. Begin with the topleft corner.

highcoder said:
Hehe i tried this too.
For people who have bad calibration after this: You can fix it with "Dev Tools". Goto "Pointer Location" and you will see what exactly happen to your calibration when you touch the screen. To fix the calibration use the stylus, press & hold camerabutton and tip all corners of your screen clockwise. Begin with the topleft corner.
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Reboot also works. just thought others should know

[Q] Need Help in Laymen's Terms...Tilt 2 Stuck on Red, Green, Blue, and White Screen.

I have a HTC Tilt 2... I have been having a ton of problems with this phone but when it really freaks out, I usually take the battery out, let it sit a few days and then it starts working again. My phone started doing some funny things today so I restarted it as usual, it freezes and I remove the battery. When I turned it back on I got a red, green, blue and white screen with text:
RHOD300 32M MI-BC
SPL-0.87.0000
MicroP(LED) 0x0A
MicroP(KEY) 0x04
TURBO HW/TURBO SW
TP MFG DATA
498, 526 792,855
795,211 214,211
223,845 Calibrated
This has never happened before.
This RGB&W screen used to say serial when it first happend a few hours ago but then I installed ActiveSync and plugged it into PC, now says USB.
ActiveSync won't recognize my device, it does appear in My Computer.
I tried following directions in another forum to turn the device off then hold the pickup/hangup/power button at the same time...a different screen appeared than the forum directed, a gray screen with "Trigger Ramdump Mode"...then I couldn't do anything.
I can restart it back into the tri-color screen...
I need help in laymen's terms. I've never tried to change anything about the phone's operating system, I've never done an update or anything, I do not have the Tilt2 CD.
Right now I have my SIM card and my SanDisk card removed, I was afraid it could get erased when I tried the pickup/hangup/power button trick.
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!!!!!

This screen is called the bootloader. Its used by technicians (or more advanced users) to load the OS or "ROM" onto the phone. It may be stuck in bootloader because some of the OS files are damaged or missing, and the OS is not booting up. Or possibly even a hardware failure.
Pulling the battery may/may not be the culprit. I've read someone on here mention that pulling the battery can corrupt files on the phone. If the phone is lagging, frozen, then pulling the battery is not the correct way to restart the phone. The correct method of restarting the phone by soft reset is done by sticking the stylus into the small red hole/button on the side of the phone, while the batter cover is off:
http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_touch_pro_2_rhodium_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html
Pulling the battery is only a method of last resort, as the soft reset button will work in almost all cases.
Hard reset by holding TALK, END and POWER is probably not going to work. It requires the OS to be working, and you are not even getting to the point that the OS is booting.
Its supposed to say "USB" when the phone is connected to your PC via the USB cable. If I remember properly, it will say "Serial" in bootloader for a second when you plug the phone to USB, and switch to saying "USB" after that. USB is a form of serial connection, after all (USB = Universal Serial Bus). As long as it says "USB", you are in somewhat good shape, since it SHOULD allow you to try the following.
Try downloading the latest ROM from HTC. This is actually a newer version than the ROM that was originally on your phone, but still "official" ATT software. And by most accounts, better than the old ROM. Since its official software, installing this will not endanger any warranty you may still have on the phone.
Its the first file on the following page ("ROM Update"):
http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-2-att/downloads/
With your phone connected to your PC by USB, run the .exe ROM update file and follow the instructions that come up on your PC screen. It should work. Try it and let us know.
Bear in mind, you will lose any personal data you have on the phone (contacts, texts, emails, etc). But you've probably already lost those.
Its possible there is some other way out of it, I certainly don't know all the tricks. But in searching around this site, being stuck in bootloader seems to require flashing a new ROM to get out of it. And it seems that you are prepared to lose your personal data, based on the fact that you were already trying to hard reset (the TALK, END, and POWER button process) which also dumps all your data. And flashing the official ROM is really pretty easy to accomplish. Just a pain that you have to re-setup the phone again, since it will basically be returned to factory condition (but in this case, a slightly newer version of the OS).

The SAME thing happened to My HTC Tilt 2 an Hour ago (1/13/2010 4:46pm)
The same exact thing occurred to my HTC Tilt 2 today. It is stuck on the red green, blue and white screen with the same yellow 'config' type message . The white bottom strip has the black letters "serial" typed in.
My problem also, is that the phone stays "on" until i pull the battery out. The moment i place the battery back in the phone, the keys stay lit up instantly and the screen is black. When pressing the power button, then i get the same red, green, blue and white screen.
Ive tried holding the talk/end/power buttons all at the same time, it doesnt make a difference. So i cant get to the step where you press the "volume up" key so to initiate the master reset.
Ihad no idea the HTC Tilt2 would just fry like this. I had no additional apps that were unusual to the norm, i even had more free space than used on the set. its not like the phone was over loaded.
Hmmmmm.... help!!!

Re-read above about "soft-reset" and you might want to try reflash your phone.
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RicoATT said:
The same exact thing occurred to my HTC Tilt 2 today. It is stuck on the red green, blue and white screen with the same yellow 'config' type message . The white bottom strip has the black letters "serial" typed in.
My problem also, is that the phone stays "on" until i pull the battery out. The moment i place the battery back in the phone, the keys stay lit up instantly and the screen is black. When pressing the power button, then i get the same red, green, blue and white screen.
Ive tried holding the talk/end/power buttons all at the same time, it doesnt make a difference. So i cant get to the step where you press the "volume up" key so to initiate the master reset.
Ihad no idea the HTC Tilt2 would just fry like this. I had no additional apps that were unusual to the norm, i even had more free space than used on the set. its not like the phone was over loaded.
Hmmmmm.... help!!!
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Read my post above. Your OS is missing or damaged, and you need to reflash (re-install) it.
Master reset re-loads the OS from the ROM area of your memory. The ROM is damaged, so their is nothing to reload. That's why its stuck in bootloader (tri-color screen).

redpoint73 said:
Read my post above. Your OS is missing or damaged, and you need to reflash (re-install) it.
Master reset re-loads the OS from the ROM area of your memory. The ROM is damaged, so their is nothing to reload. That's why its stuck in bootloader (tri-color screen).
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Today, i stuck the battery in the phone (Tilt2) pressed the hard reset keys. THIS time it allowed the volume-UP key to finally kick in the reset to default cycle. I got the phone working again and have restored my last backup So, I havent lost anything.
The only problem now i am noticing is the light on the keyboard never goes off. Even when I power the phone down, "the keyboard stays lit".. I am having to remove the battery just to keep it from draining when the phone is not in use.hmmm. is there a regEdit key I can modify that may turn off the keys? id rather have no light at all over no battery juice. If i can edit the key to turn off the backlight on the keyboard permanantly , this will be a temp fix for me until i get a new phone.
as anyone ever experienced this?

RicoATT said:
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Today, i stuck the battery in the phone (Tilt2) pressed the hard reset keys. THIS time it allowed the volume-UP key to finally kick in the reset to default cycle. I got the phone working again and have restored my last backup So, I havent lost anything.
The only problem now i am noticing is the light on the keyboard never goes off. Even when I power the phone down, "the keyboard stays lit".. I am having to remove the battery just to keep it from draining when the phone is not in use.hmmm. is there a regEdit key I can modify that may turn off the keys? id rather have no light at all over no battery juice. If i can edit the key to turn off the backlight on the keyboard permanantly , this will be a temp fix for me until i get a new phone.
as anyone ever experienced this?
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Well, today 1/18/2011: the above issue seem to have vanished altogether. Very good. I did nothing but what i was resolved to do until I buy a new phone (take the battery out so to completely power down the phone and lights).
Today, my ole third hand decided to work like normal! Yay!. All of a sudden it rebooted, and now the keyboard backlight turns off when the keypad is closed and you can see it light up when extended. and most importantly: the back lighty for the keypad goes "off" when the phone is powerd down. go figure this one.
I am glad its working like normal now, but i know its time to get a new phone. These are just symptoms of the "big-crash" soon to come. I am backing up every day.
For now, very very glad my phone is back to "normal"

Uh OHHHH

After devunlocking last night, now my phone is messed up
The problem is the back,windows and search button no longer work, the portion of the screen that they take up is now like an extension of thescreen it just selects stuff as if it were at the bottom of the screen. Any help to reset all the files in root to factory, I tried to hard reset and soft reset.
Maybe I screwed up the registry or some files. Thanks for any help

try factory reset. hold camera + volume down + power. when phone vibrate release power button while holding the other 2 buttons. should prompt you to reset your phone. hope that works

Thx
I tried that but it enters USB Host mode, I also tried holding down up and down volume and power button to reset which resets it but doesn'tfixmy problem. it's acting like the part of the screen where the windows, search and back button are are now part of the regular screen and those 3 buttons no longer do anything.

This sounds rather like a hardware error. Your calibration of the touchscreen is messed up. I suggest you send it in. You still should have warranty?!
Btw. I don't think this has a connection to unlocking the phone!

If the phone hasn't been tampered with physically, it should be enough to just sync it without re-unlocking it, and it should be locked again.

Thx
I got a new one on the way. I didn't delete any files or regedit a bunch of stuff just a standard dev unlock and it started acting squirrly.