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[FIXED] My First cab - T-Mobile UK customised threaded SMS

Yes, I've finally gotten around to looking into this whole cab making malarkey and while this is an existing one customised to fit my needs, it's a good learning curve
It's the palm threaded SMS app and it just plain rocks - really
So anyway, I've tested this on WM6 (Black 4) and it really works. Everything is already set up in this for using with T-Mobile and MMS works too! It integrates nicely with the HTC homescreen and includes a custom alert tone (hope you like it! )
Just to make sure the install goes OK, please use the task manager to stop the messaging \ poutlook \ tmail processes before you run the cab as I believe this could cause problems.
You will lose your existing SMS and MMS messages in the standard messaging app so if you want to keep them, use PIMBackup first
It's a fantastic app and I recommend giving it ago and if you're on T-Mob, I've just made it a little easier for you
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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EDIT 1: Fixed MMS settings
http://rapidshare.com/files/36981262/Lordsmiff_-_Threaded.cab.html

If you ever vist bristol I may be tempted to reward you. thanks.. a handy cab.

Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks

nbedford said:
Any screen shots of threaded SMS? Also if i uninstall your cab, does everything go back to normal?
Thanks
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Good point! Nice work on the cab Lord but some reassurance would be fantastic

Service provider?
Have installed it and its quality. I can't send mms though. In the settings its set to cingular. I've got the tmob settings bar the centre number any ideas?

screen shot
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/18/treo-750v-threaded-sms-mms-app-hacked-for-all/
looks like that

I'm looking at it now - I did test it on mine first but I think it probably kept the registry settings when I uninstalled it and re-installed it.
As for uninstalling...on my T-Mobile UK MDA Vario II, it uninstalled perfectly and everything reverted to the standard messaging app...BUT, as with anything like this, please don't just take the poster's word for it - use PIMBackup and and back it all up first!! It will most likely work OK, but...sh*t happens ;-)
Smiffy.

Thanks man. Your word is always good enough

OK, there were 2 places in the registry where the MMS settings were stored and I only changed 1 but it's sorted now (tested 3 times ;-)
And no, my word isn't good enough ;-) Back it up!! :-D
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Fixed and fantastic
Think this will quite possibly be the first cab i'll install after future flashes. Intelligent fuctionality.
Cheers Lordsmiff nice work
Forgot to say that when i uninstalled first version my old sms and mms were still there. When i reinstalled the new ones reappeared. Like lordsmiff says back up just in case but it didnt completely remove messages only temporarily when using the app.

You're right, it doesn't remove the old messages, it just uses a different message store but, at the risk of repeating myself ;-) back it up anyway
Which reminds me - if you want to reflash your device and then get all your threaded SMS messages back, you need to backup a file in the Windows folder called "PalmMsgV001" and also a folder in Windows called "MMS"
The file has all the text messages and stuff in and the folder has all the images etc from MMS messages in (I found that out the hard way )
Copy those two to your storage card and then back after a reflash to have everything back in threads
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Moved to rapidshare at mod's request
Anyone have any ideas where better to put it as I know some people (myself included) can't get them during working hours...damn those proxys
Cheers,
Smiffy.

Is it possible to install this threaded sms cab then alter the network settings by installing one of the available operator cabs or does the setting need to be entered manually?
Thanks.

i havent looked at lordsmiff's version... but if its anything like the ones i posted there is a possible issue of mms not working if you enter the settings manually... but his could be different...

There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.

i had another thought if you wanted to run with the idea.. i go back to work today so my time is going to be limited again.
The original version where based on the sprint connections, when i extracted all the files from the cingular treo rom and dumped the registry i compared them, i noticed all the reg settings were pretty much the same except for 2 lines and of course all the provider settings. But im thinking that if we left out the hard coded provider settings and allow the user to enter them manually that this may stop the "sometimes" apparent connection issues with MMS. So basically have a generic threaded cab with no provider settings hard coded at all... and if someone wanted to feel ambitious enough they could make cabs with just the hard coded reg settings for different providers (not the whole app)..

Hi!
Sounds great! Can it also be used for a other provider ? If yes; how do I know my settings ?
Does it show a alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
XIvius

Lordsmiff said:
There's not much chance of it being too different - it's based on your cab
If you want me to mod it for your provider, I can do that for you
Just PM me the connection details and I'll see what I can do
Cheers,
Smiffy.
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I really love this app and would like to go back to it. MMS has always worked for me when using shogunmarks version but I think its limited to 300k.
Since your offering lord would you make one for AT&T?
I linked the settings I would have just posted them here but didn't want to miss something so I linked the main page for you.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...le=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB71325
thanks

One thing everyone should know when using this app is if you use any kind of app that closes programs like HTC Task Manager for example you need to add the Palm Threaded app to the exclusive list so it does NOT close when pressing x.
What happens a lot of times is most people write their txt msg and just click the x but with the threaded you have to wait until the msg is actually sent.
So the app should be running most of the time..

Hi,
What about the new sms notify; does it show an alerts and integrates it good in the HTC Home Screen ?
Xivius

TouchFlo3D2 Start Menu

Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Is there an app or a reg-hack that i can run to go back to good ol' 6.1 Start Menu?
Only reason I ask is because for some reason my TomTom install hasn't put an entry in the all programs list so to launch it I have to go Start, All Programs, File Explorer, My Device, Navigator, TomTom...which I'm sure you will agree is somewhat cumbersome.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!

OK figured out how to create a shortcut, and subsequently add it to the quick launcher.
Still a bit confused as to why stuff that should be (and is) in folders (i.e. S2U2) is shown as a list.
For that reason, can I enable folder view, or can I disable the task launcher altogether and go back to good old windows mobile start menu?
I've tried the TF3D2 tweak app and that doesn't seem to do anything at all!

Why not try the solution here. Hope that helps,
Dave

Many thanks!

I thought we can just turn it off from the Today settings screen? (Just untick TouchFlo3D from it)

you can, but that turns off the whole of touchflo3d rather than just the start menu/program manager

dazultra2000 said:
Hi guys. Just switched from Kaiser to Rhodium and so far love it...
However, I'm already starting to get a bit annoyed by the Start Menu replacement that comes with TF3D2.
Or if anyone has some magical way to add folders/shortcuts into the TF3D2 menus that would also work fine for me!
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Use Explorer and navigate to your Windows\StartMenu\Programs\ folder and paste shortcuts to your applications.
They should appear in the Programs list now.
Hope this helped you

the answer is in the tweaks thread.

comm manager won't load

Hi, I tried many roms and most of them work fine. but I'm always having comm manager issues.
On first boot, comm manager loads fine. but after some use.
whenever i want to use comm manager to load wifi or bt, it won't show up.
I need to reboot the phone and do it.
does anyone know what could be causing this?
thanks

i dont know why it does that but (assuming your using 6.1 and up) you go into the task manager and kill the wrlsmanager process. go back to the home screen and restart the app it should start up now and avoid the reboot.

thanks!
i'll do that when it happens.
so annoying... lol

I had that problem, it was irritating but I just had to make myself press the "Done" button in Comm Manager when I had finished using it, rather than just switching to another app. It always seemed to open fine after I changed my habits! ;-)

it happened again, but this time i don't see wrlsmanager process
and reboot doesn't work.
any other ideas?
thanks

is this an issue in every rom? or could it be hardware?
cuz every rom i'm trying is acting like this.
some don't even load after a reset.
it just shows the color wheel.
i have 19mb free ram. so what gives?
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
is this an issue in every rom? or could it be hardware?
cuz every rom i'm trying is acting like this.
some don't even load after a reset.
it just shows the color wheel.
i have 19mb free ram. so what gives?
Thanks
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I'm not so sure if I am understanding this incorrectly, but is it that Bluetooth and Wifi are greyed out on the comm manager? or will the comm manager just not work?
If it is the prior, then what ROM are you using currently (although you say you have tried many)? If it is Ookba's 3vo V2.5.080809 then he posed a fix on the second post for Wifi issues. I know i had issues where Wifi wouldn't start. I installed the fix, and it did exactly that, it fixed it. Not so sure about bluetooth...
I would go ahead an ask Ookba what he did, because at one point he mentioned suspecting there were hardware differences in some Excalibur units...
If it is that the comm manager wont start up, that is weird. If killing the process doesn't always work, check the sortcut...I know that one or two ROMS that i had used in the past had problems where they accidentally put "commmmanager" or something of the sorts, and most of the time, the phone was unable to interpret that correctly.
If it isnt either of those, then I am sorry I am totally off track haha.
Anyways, hope I helped a bit...

Hi
the comm mananger won't load.
and there is no wrls manager process running.
it doesn't load after a reset sometimes either.
I tried the roms posted in the wiki
most of the wm 6.1 roms posted in the wiki
080408 - Remade By Rickywatt
NRG's 'Rose' ROM ver. 1.4
NRG Rose Rom v1.7 - Remade by Ricky and Stylez
and
3VOLUTION series
thanks
what should the comm manager target be?
thanks

Well, i just used a text editor to look at my phone's CommManager link on the start menu ...
Running Ookba's 3VO 2.5 (with the WiFi Patch installed) it says this:
Code:
39#"\Windows\CommManager.exe"
?\Windows\SP_ProgramIcon.dll,-110
The second line is for the links icon...the first line points to where the Communications Manager program is...make sure it matches that...
By the way...are you launching comm manager from the start menu or from the CComm panel on the homescreen, or are you using the 'hold down the TZones/Internet button' method implemented in some ROMs?...for any of them there is a way to check the link....
I mentioned above how to check for Start Menu....
For the CComm Panel, go into the registry with a registry editor...Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\CHome\CComm\ ... in there should be keys named "Page1", Page2 and so on...check each of them for "SK2URL" and make sure that for each the value is "\Windows\CommManager.exe" (no quotes " ")
For the holding down of the TZones/Internet button, go to the windows directory and look for long_IE.lnk (i think that is what it is called, im not sure though...my phone doesnt have that) and make sure it points to the correct file...
That is really all i can think of...hope it helps

thanks,
but how do u check a shortcut on a smartphone, i used to use shortcut creator on the PPC. but it doesn't work for the smartphone.
thanks

Ray_jai said:
thanks,
but how do u check a shortcut on a smartphone, i used to use shortcut creator on the PPC. but it doesn't work for the smartphone.
thanks
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Do you have Notepad or something on your phone? If not I believe there is a NotePad program on the Development and Hacking sub-forum on XDA, if not you can go to this site, they have a notepad application i belive
http://mobile.surrealnetworks.com/DashApps.htm
Use that to open the .lnk file...
And i use Resco RegEdit to edit the registry, but i believe most ROMS have some reg editor built in...

Thanks,
mine says:
59#"\windows\CommManagerlink.exe"
should i rename it?
thanks

Ray_jai said:
Thanks,
mine says:
59#"\windows\CommManagerlink.exe"
should i rename it?
thanks
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For starters, why is it "CommManagerlink.exe", it should just be "CommManager.exe", unless that is how the ROM was cooked.
Okay, try this...
First, go to the WINDOWS directory, and find CommManager.exe, and click it. If it works, then the shortcut is the problem...if so move on to the next 'step'...
Using a file explorer, make a backup copy of the .lnk file (just do a duplicate, or copy and paste into a new folder) just incase something goes wrong.
Now, for the first try, just change "CommManagerlink.exe" to "CommManager.exe" (obviously, no " "). if that doesn't work, do the next method.
If the first method didn't work, try replacing the contents of the .lnk file with
Code:
39#"\Windows\CommManager.exe"
If that method did not work, then I am really not sure what is wrong. However, i know that some ROM's come cooked with Resco Explorer...and there is a function on one of the menus to "Send to Start Menu as a Shortcut"...that would make it a whole lot easier...since you could just do that instead of making/modifying your own...
Look inside the WINDOWS folder, and look for "CommManagerlink.exe" ... I doubt it exists...but it all depends on what ROM you are using, as I don't know the specifics of EVERY ROM. So what ROM are you currently using?
Hope this helps

Odd, I have both. LOL
CommManagerlink.exe and the non link one.
I'll make 2 short cuts and see which one works better.
I'll report back with results
Thank you for all ur help.

Dammit it happened again.
I don't get it.
why it doesn't load up.
even when i try the phone alarm buttons it doesn't work.
the buttons light up on phonealarm, but the bluetooth or wifi doesn't work.
I don't get it. wtf...
I see the commmananger.exe running in the process, but i can't end it.

Ray_jai said:
Dammit it happened again.
I don't get it.
why it doesn't load up.
even when i try the phone alarm buttons it doesn't work.
the buttons light up on phonealarm, but the bluetooth or wifi doesn't work.
I don't get it. wtf...
I see the commmananger.exe running in the process, but i can't end it.
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Give me som details about your phone...
Where was it made (China or Taiwan)? (it says behind the battery, on the phone)
What ROM are you running?
How much are you overclocking?
What applications do you have installed?
Are you trying to use the 'NEW' CommManager (the sleek one), or the Old Default (for stock ROMs) that is tacky?
And any other detail you think is important...
From that i may be able to help you more!

Hey,
thanks for helping me out.
I have the Taiwan version and the China version.
both of them are currently using the NRG rose 1.4 rom.
i have programs like,
Sktools, phone alarm, facade and S2u2 installed.
But i had this issues before installing any programs.
it happens on and off. and sometimes a softreset brings it back.
the rom came with the HTC comm manager.
but I switched it to the tacky one cuz it loads up faster and i don't need to scroll.
Thanks

Ray_jai said:
Hey,
thanks for helping me out.
I have the Taiwan version and the China version.
both of them are currently using the NRG rose 1.4 rom.
i have programs like,
Sktools, phone alarm, facade and S2u2 installed.
But i had this issues before installing any programs.
it happens on and off. and sometimes a softreset brings it back.
the rom came with the HTC comm manager.
but I switched it to the tacky one cuz it loads up faster and i don't need to scroll.
Thanks
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S2U2? Are you even using an Excalibur? If not, you have posted in the wrong thread, as this is for EXCALIBUR phones. Although i guess windows mobile is windows mobile no matter what phone you are on.
I would do some google'ing...search for errors related to programs, bugs, or glitches that might make them interefere with the phone's normal functions. I would try looking at Facade since (if i am correct) that interacts with the homescreen, which i suppose could accidentally screw something up with other system functions.
These are all guesses, and I can't honestly think of anything else...It is really up to good google powers now haha.

Yea I'm using the Tmobile Dash. lol
I use S2u2 as the locking program.
it works well. the old locking program didn't work too well for me.
I had this issue before i knew about facade or installed it.
thanks

Ray_jai said:
Yea I'm using the Tmobile Dash. lol
I use S2u2 as the locking program.
it works well. the old locking program didn't work too well for me.
I had this issue before i knew about facade or installed it.
thanks
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Oh, i was under the impression S2U2 was only for TouchScreen. Anyways, so the problem did happen BEFORE using Facade...hmmmm...thinking time!
I will get back to you as soon as i can think of a solution for your situation. However I am busy on my theme!
My current solution...Upgrade to one of the WM6.5 ROMs...they are awesome IMHO and probably give you better battery life...

SMS for TP2. Implementation and new ideas.

Sms functionality is very limited on TP2. Should we install some 3rd party program like Vito or implement our own?

Anyone? lets talk about it

limited? what's so limited aboot it?

i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world

i think the sms/MMS is klunky to use. but this is coming from a smartphone user. im a noob to the ppc world but love my touch pro 2

Be more specific. What is klunky.

I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.

reflexus said:
I will tell you what limited, in regular prog you cant delete individual msg, you dont see how many symbols you type and etc. SMS SUCKS at TP2.
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cant delete individual msg? Turn off Threading (try reading the Tips and Tweaks thread)
Dont know how many symbols?? mine counts fine, ^ counts as 2 characters.. hmm.. IF by "regular prog" you mean in the TF3D reply window, then yah that doesnt have a counter.
Why do you need it to count text for?? If you need to type any more than 160chars, it will be sent as 2 messages.
anything else that you wanna consider as SUCK?
is this your first WinMo phone?

I personally don't like the TF3D SMS interface so I use good ol WM interface when I have a threaded message open. It shows in the taskbar how many characters you've typed & if you want to delete an individual message you just use the arrow keys & move to thw one you want to delete & choose the option in the menu.

Very oftently you dont see sent msg in TF3D, but you can see them in wm msg. IT sucks and very slow.

I have a deep and unabiding hatred for the TF3D SMS application, and I hope someone figures out a way to make clicking a message in TF3D go directly to the WM SMS app at some point.

anyone can resolve this issue?

i have an issue with hitting back (used to it being send) and i hate the send button because for me it is very laggy usually .. when i need to fire off a bunch of messages real quick the system almost freezes up ... not very productive and alot of times i cant tell if its sent or not because it takes to long to load my reply on the thread..

touch pro 2 sucks, most sluggish phone i ever worked with, i think i will sell it.

sms lag fix found.No more keyboard lag.

hi guys.i was suffering with a lot of lag when i was writing sms with my x1.i found fix and i want to share with you.
Open Total Commander
Browse to the Windows folder
Look for "thread_sms.htm"
Hit file and go to edit
Scroll down (it's pretty short so it shouldn't be that far) and look for "count" then delete it. It's the only one in there so no need to worry about deleting the wrong one.
Save and restart the phone.that is it.i hope all the chefs will include this fix in their rom.cheers
orginal thread can find here:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=73005

just tried this and works a treat yay!

nice find, testing it out right now will update in the future to see if the change was significant or not

the disadvantage with this workaround is, it does not count how nany characters we wrote in our sms. i will upload max 160 character fix soon.cheers

Nice dude!!! testing and its ok.
Thanks

Where is total commander

@YIp712
Total Commander is a file manager which may or may not come installed in your device. If you don't have it, you can download it from their website here.

need help plz
i can't save it keep getting error plz help

azn911 said:
i can't save it keep getting error plz help
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i didnt understand.what kind of error you are getting?you can use the attached cab file.you will be able to write 160 characters afterwards you must create new sms.cheers

good work, with this cab the keyboard in the sms work very fine now!

Umm i installed the SMS LAG FIX-160 Max.cab to fix but i didnt like it so i uninstalled now my background is grey in text and file explorer....how do i undo this and make it white agian?

does not work for me

doesn't work on hd2,...
guys, this fix doesn't help on the hd2,...

works in x2
of course. thank you for this fix! works perfectly in x2

Thanks! Very useful on Xperia X1. My sms writer works flashfully now!

this was very helpfuul with txt , but in opera lagging its just unbelivable , i gues there must be some opera fix also or i'm wrong ?

Thanks for posting this. I have used it and there are slight improvements to texting with the x1. I have to say though, even after installation I still find that there are times in which my x1 still lag like crazy when I text or use MSN on it.

which registry entries get changed with this cab?
i have some issues with the keyboard...have to press some letters twice etc.

answer please!