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WiFi Problems With 2 Networks

Hi
I have a wifi AP at home, and one at work, Both use WPA-PSK with mac addy auth. SSID Visible cause sh1te WM2003SE OS cant cope with hidden SSID.
Get a whole load of oddities from the XDA IIs. Both SSID's and keys are listed in the wifi setup on the device. What I would expect is that if I switch the device on when I am within range of the AP @ work, it connects to it no fuss, likewise, when I drive home, switch XDA on it connects, no fuss, unfortunately this is not usually the case. The following are in order of likelyness to occur!
Problem 1
Sometimes I switch it on, and it sits there searching for eons, never finds AP. If I disable and then re-enable wifi on the XDA then it connects.
Problem 2
Sometimes, the XDA will tell me that its connected to my home network when I am at work - it isn't!
Problem 3
Sometimes I switch it on, it connects to the AP, but no net connectivity - looking. Using PPC Ipconfig, I see that device never managed to get an IP addy. Stop, start wifi problem resolves
Problem 3
Occasionally, the PPC forgets the shared secret, and I have to re-input it, start/stop wifi before it will connect to the AP
Problem 4
Sometimes, it just BLUNTLY REFUSES to connect to the AP if I do the above. In this case I try all the above with a soft reset as well. If that fails then I need remove all the wifi AP's, soft reset, wait (ages) for it to see a new AP, enter the PSK then it will connect.
It also struggles to connect to other APs (wifi hotspots). Things work a whole lot better when there is just one AP involved (i,e not work and home).
Prob 4 occurs once/week, prob 1 occurs every day, others somewhere between. All problems are of course COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE for a product that has been released to the consumer.
Nigel

Hello Veledron,
I've a similar problem: at our company WLAN is set up to reqire WPA and authentication with user certificates. Since it is not possible to import user certificates in Windows Mobile 2003 SE "out of the box" I found out how to do that - it is described here
http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/crtimprt.html
a little bit difficould procedure, but it worked - I can see my personal company certificate in the private-certificate store of my MDAIII.
The problem is, that I can't get a connection. WLAN-Manager says "connected", but I can't receive an IP-address - and in the logs of our Cisco-APs I can't see anything from my PDA. What also is a little bit strange for me: the MDAIII does not remember the setting "authentication with certificates", it always switches to "authentication using PEAP"...
any idea?
thanks
Gerald

Hi Veledron & gekap
I too have similiar problem with my netgear router at home. It seems that everytime it connect to the network it will just keep scanning eventhough it prompt that it already connected. It been 2 days and still i cannot manage to connect
Hopefully there is a solution to this problem.
Regardz
shark

There is.... Turn off AP, or move device to location where it is out of range, remove all WiFi profiles from device, hard reset, turn on router. wait (ages) for device to realize that there is a wifi ap nearby, enter PSK, all is well.
There seems to be no pattern to the WiFi failures, I have to do the above maybe twice a week to get it to connect. When the device gets itsself into a poor state this is the only way.
You cant delete an active profile, and the profile list only appears when wifi is turned on (stupid!) hence the need to turn off the AP.
Nigel

Hi Guys,
I manage to solve my wifi problem,
i just add the XDA IIs mac address to my netgear router plus assigned a reserve ip address based on it mac address and was able to connect successfully with no problem. Hope this solution helps.
Regardz
Sharkz

Hi,
thanks for the tips, but all of them are not a solution for me. I do not have any problems connecting to WLANs using WEP or to unencrypted WLANs, but i guess that there are problems with WPA in the PDA2K. I think the guys of you who have succussful connected to a WLAN using WPA have done that using WPA-PSK, not WPA with TKIP as encryption-method and PEAP or certificates as authentication method over 802.1x.
In our company TKIP is mandatory, and it is necessary to use certificates for authentication - this can be done with either EAP-TLS (so called "smartcard or certificate" in the setup-menu of the PDA-2k) or using PEAP. I've troubleshooted this a lot, and I can't see any authentication packet coming to our Cisco-APs from the PDA2K using this methods (I've turned on advanced logging on the APs to see any little bit...).
I fear the worst, that the WLAN-driver of the PDA2K does not support TKIP! Of course WPA is supportet from Windows 2003 Mobile SE, but in my opinion that is not enough - the card driver down the OS must also support the whole WPA-Standard, and it seems to me that the PDA2K driver does only support WPA-PSK. I found an article which can be an explanation of the problem:
http://www.socketforum.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2924
So I've 2 questions to you:
.) which driver version is installed on your PDA2Ks? (you can find that in the registry under HKLM\SOFTWARE\Drivers\Wavedev - I've: Common: 0.04.01, Device: 1.06.01 GER, DriverVersion: 0.08.00, Patch: 1.00)
.) has anyone of you ever connected to a WLAN using WPA (not WPA-PSK!)?
thanks
Gerald

[HELP!] PC network problems when connected with Bluetooth PAN internet sharing.

Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!

Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
marty_73 said:
Hi there, I have a big problem that will force me to downgrade to WM5 if I can't solve it.
Here's the facts:
I don't have a telephone line at home and I'm connecting to internet using a flat GPRS/UMTS connection with Vodafone using my TyTN as bluetooth modem (using the old WM5 DUN profile).
Since I upgraded to WM6 (and I love it) the DUN profile and Wireless Modem has been replaced by Internet Sharing application. It works very fine but it messes up my network connection with my other PC.
I used to share the internet connection this way: the bluetooth modem was connected to my main PC (AMD Sempron). The LAN (manually setted up) on this PC was: 192.168.0.1 / subnet 255.255.255.0. The LAN (manually setted up) on other PC (AMD Athlon) was 192.160.0.10 / subnet 255.255.255.0 / gateway 192.168.0.1. It all worked very fine.
Now as I connect the PAN bluetooth internet sharing my main PC (Sempron) acquires a new network address (the TyTN seems to be automatically setted as 192.168.0.1) so the LAN on the PC is 192.168.0.153 /subnet 255.255.255.0 /gateway 192.160.0.1 and the connection works fine but I'm not able anymore to connect via LAN tothe other PC even if I try different LAN settings on the Athlon (I tried to manually set it as 192.168.0.10 /subnet 255.255.255.0).
Who can tell me how to configure the LAN setting on the 2 PCs so that I can access internet enabling PAN bluetooth on the TyTN with the main PC (Sempron) and still continue accessing remote folders and files via LAN on the other PC (Athlon)?
It would be great if I could share the connection with the 2 PCs like I did before, but I'll be ok if I can connect to internet with one and have a working LAN between the 2 PCs.
Hope I explained it well.
Waiting for suggestions. Thank you!
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silverfox0214 said:
Pick a machine that is to be the internet gateway. Do this by initiating the BT PAN network on the first machine. On the first machine's IP stack, Enable Internet Connection Sharing. On the second machine, use the first machine's IP as your default gateway.
You should then be able to access the internet from both machines.
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Ok, I started the BT PAN on my main machine (AMD Sempron) but how do I enable the connection sharing? When I was using the DUN connection I used the Advanced Options section to enable the Connction Sharing, but where do I find this opzion now?

On a Windows Machine the IP range to be assigned when Internet Connection Sharing is turned on is 192.168.0.x. That is also the range used by Internet Sharing on the phone. This is a routing conflict. You cant have a 0.x being handed out from the phone to the 1st computer and then have that computer handing out 0.x addresses to any other computers. The IP range the Phone hands out needs to be regedited to something else like 192.168.1.x As far as I know, you cannot change the address range in Windows Internet Connection Sharing. You will have to do it on the phone.
If this helps.

Need help from a Vista user! (Internet Sharing)

I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!

Tell me about it! It took me an age to find some drivers that worked with my bluetooth, I ended up using the Toshiba stack. After a lot of fiddling I got it working but when it runs it is very hit and miss and I have yet to transfer anything between devices let alone surf the net! Have you tried the bluetooth set up wizard?
stpete111 said:
I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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stpete111 said:
I had been successfully tethering via Bluetooth with WM6's Internet Sharing function, and was doing so in XP. Well we just took the Vista plunge and I'm having an issue. The Network Connections is showing my BT connection as "Local Only" meaning I can browse other pc's on the network, but I can't get to the internet. My WiFi connection to my router connects to the internet with no problem (The Wireless Connection shows "Local & Internet Access."
So I can not get out to the internet using my Tytn as my connection. I used the "Diagnose Problem" function in Vista, and it tells me that it cannot ping IP address 192.168.0.1. This is the IP address of my router. I don't want it to try to hit that IP address, but I can't find a way to tell it NOT to. All the settings in TCP/IP protocol are set to obtain an IP address automatically. But it seems that even while using BT as the connection, it still wants to get to my router first, even though I'm not using my WiFi at all. I even tried disabling the WiFi connection. Still the same issue.
Does anyone know what I can do to get the pc to stop trying to get my router first?
Thanks!
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The internet sharing function on the TyTn used 192.168.0.1
You are saying that your router is also using the same address range.
That is a no-no. Change the router address to 192.168.1.1, and I think you will see better results.

@boz - Actually I have no issues connecting to Vista via Bluetooth, and all profiles work great (I'm using the latest Broadcomm stack). My issue is in my Network Connections, not BT itself.
@Wildbill - the Tytn is not using 192.168.0.1. The PC is trying to ping that IP address because it is the address of my wireless router, and the first time I ever accessed the net with that pc, I did so via WiFi through my wireless router at home. Now, what I am trying to do though is get on the internet in my car, while nowhere near my wireless router. But my pc still seems to want to get to my router as though I'm trying to connect to the net via Wifi, when I'm actually just trying to get to it through my phone. The PC connects to the phone with no problem, and the phone is connected to the internet, But, my problem is that I can't figure out how to tell my pc to NOT look for my wireless router's IP address first.
BT DUN was so much easier with Cingular. I wish one of the cooks could figure out how to get the DUN profile back into WM6's BT stack.

I am really confused here.
When you use Internet Sharing on the TyTn, You are using the Tytn to allow other devices to access the Internet thru the TyTn.
When you do that, the TyTn hands out the address of 192.168.0.100 and it is the gateway, and the Gateway address is 192.168.0.1.
If you have your home router using the same address range, you have the PC that the Tytn is sharing it's internet connection with seeing to addresses within the same range, and two gateways with the same address - The PC LAN card is seing the router at 192.168.0.1 and the Buetooth PAN is seing the phone gateway at the same 0.1 That is what I was trying to say. It won't work like that.

Oh ok I see what you're saying. I was assuming that when it gave me the error, that it was trying to ping my router since I knew that to be my router's address. I did not realize that the Tytn used such a similar gateway.
To correct what I said in my first post: I said that it was trying to ping "IP address"... the exact error message reads "Connot Communicate with DNS Server 192.168.0.1"
It shows a nifty little diagram of the PC connected to the Cingular Bluetooth network connection, then another line connecting to a picture of earth, which they call "internet," but there is a red "X" over that line showing that it can't connect to internet. When you click on Diagnose problem, the above error message is what comes up.
So now, I need to make sure I understand what you are saying Wildbill. I see what you mean from your post... being that I don't connect to my router anymore, ever, at all (since the pc never comes out of the car anymore, and I'm way out of range of my wireless router even in the driveway) what do I need to change? Everything in TCP/IP protocol settings are set to obtain addresses automatically.
Another interesting thing to note is that I did not have this problem when I had XP in my car, and I connected to my wireless router with that pc too. But Internet sharing worked fine with it.

If the only things connected are the TyTn and a PC, then the PC will obtain an IP from the TyTn, and it will be 192.168.1.100. It will tell the pc that the gateway is 192.168.0.1, which is the TyTn. Since the TyTn has Bluetooth 2.0, I would speculate that you could connect additional BT devices to the same BT PAN, and the TytN would likely hand out additional addreses like 0.101, 0.102, etc. I have not tried that nor have I read about it.

See that's what I gathered too. So I don't know why it can't get out to the internet, unless it's that Vista just won't let it for some reason. This bugs me because Internet Sharing worked fine in XP, and BT DUN works fine with Vista with my other phone. Unfortunately I'm getting rid of that phone. If my Tytn had a DUN profile in the BT stack I'd be fine. Weak.

i tehering in wm6 vista using bluetooth ban

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Hey
I just got this phone.
Anyways, thought it'd be great to connect to my home internet.
We have an Airport Base Station. It's passworded with WPA Personal.
Anyway, it goes to connect, says I need a network key. I type the password in and it fails to connect. I figure I need to set it to WPA.
I go to configure and then click my router in the list.
In 'General' Tab I've got it as 'connects to the internet'.
In Network key I'm pretty sure i've tried them all. Some settings has the network key grayed out. Other settings I type it in, click ok and it INSTANTLY says the network key isnt correct. Wouldn't it need a moment to verify with the router if I'm typing the right password?????
Anyway I think I've tried all combos. Then when I click my router and hit connect, it says connecting for a moment, then goes back to available.
Any ideas?
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O2xda2s on T-mob rom 2003 2GbSD - Pre-pay O2sim

Last I checked, the angel only supports 802.11B, not G.
No G = no WPA, only WEP.

hmmm
but it has WPA settings in the network key tab?
also it refers to it as 802.11X I think?

ok guys do not confuse encryption with network speed, personally i use in my BA and router with setup WPA PSK (Personal Key) with TKIP encryption, secure and compatible solution
if encrypption is WPA2 the BA will not connect

xplode said:
ok guys do not confuse encryption with network speed, personally i use in my BA and router with setup WPA PSK (Personal Key) with TKIP encryption, secure and compatible solution
if encrypption is WPA2 the BA will not connect
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Shows how long it's been since I updated my angel then, I was not aware that a WPA stack had been added to the available ROM's.