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Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?
i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben
When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)
@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.
MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it
Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)
Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..
Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.
Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.
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Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.
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CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!
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CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)
SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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Yes and it worked perfectly.
bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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Its fairly easy, all you really need are the internet and mms settings, look for a thread with operator settings in the title and find a cab file called t-mobile uk fixed.
Just drop it on to a storage card and run it whenever you do a hard reset or flash a new rom version.
Cant see why you would need the other t-mob customaizations as they mostly suck eggs.
Edit:cab file attached below
Here's the cab
Just drag to your Vario and run it.
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Its fairly easy,
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Thanks Chris.
Let me get this right. Upgrade to Black 3.x. Copy CAB to device. Run CAB. Voila? This sets everything I need?
I agree most of the T-Mobile extras are crap but I need the settings for Internet/GPRS/MMS/SMS etc.
Cheers.
yes, working fine here, all connection settings set manually.
bobbyelliott said:
Thanks Chris.
Let me get this right. Upgrade to Black 3.x. Copy CAB to device. Run CAB. Voila? This sets everything I need?
I agree most of the T-Mobile extras are crap but I need the settings for Internet/GPRS/MMS/SMS etc.
Cheers.
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Yep. I actually have a directory setup on my sd card called rebuilds with the cabs I need to reset my ppc up after flash/hard reset. Generally takes me about half an hour now to set up everything, including restores of pim records
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Generally takes me about half an hour now to set up everything, including restores of pim records
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I'm with Orange and my flashing routine now is:
1) flash new rom
2) run pimping changes
3) manually enter gprs and mms settings
4) sync with 4smartphone exchange server
5) run smsproviders cab off Storage card (to sort voicemail)
6) install spb pocket plus and customise today launchers
7) set up two pop mail accounts
8) sign in and configure windows live messenger
Got it down to about 15 minutes now (but it does help that exchange server syncing is so damn quick.)
I tend to install things like Reader that like a soft reset so it takes me a little longer.
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yes, working fine here, all connection settings set manually.
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Is it as fast as people say? Did you notice a speed improvement when you installed it?
MDA Vario II works with Black 3.01, what about rSAP?
Hi there,
Just as it has already been mentioned earlier (upgrade to 3.01 on T-Mobile MDA Vario II). I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Speed actually seems faster than before. The question I have got now is what happened to the rSAP (Remote Simm Access Profile) as I need to ensure that I can use my phone in my "troublesome" Mercedes CLS. Never was able to pair it with the car so i'll be testing it tonight. I just noticed that the rSAP seems to be missing.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Vido.
It works a treat, however when i goto use Live Messenger it cannot connect and doesn't present me with a login form like it did with Black 2.0... Is anyone else having trouble with this? I'm using a Vario II, i've tried connecting over 3G, Wireless and through ActiveSync, all with no joy,
The service may be down, mine works without any hitch. Then again, I haven't and never do install any other third party software.
bobbyelliott said:
I'm currently running Black 2.5 (the T-MOB variant) and everything is fine.
But I'm tempted to upgrade to Black 3.x before I re-install all of my apps on my Vario (the speed improvement sounds good).
Has anyone with a Vario/T-Mobile installed Black 3.x? I see that there isn't (and will never be) a T-Mobile variant. What will I lose with a generic install? How hard is it to customise it for T-Mobile (UK)?
Thanks in anticipation.
Bobby
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All working ok for me, web'n'walk back working and exchange server sync'd ok. TomTom OK. Calls OK...
Only problem I have is connecting to a WPA2 WLAN.... maybe me.... maybe the Black 3.0 (2.5 worked ok). Need to spend sometime looking this evening.
Justin
TomTom
Justin, I take it you have the app TomTom on your mobile, rather than being a 910 or similar?
I took one of the other WM6 ROMs and the DUN (data transfer) has been removed so I can only use it as a hands free device and not to update traffic over GPRS.
vido said:
Hi there,
Just as it has already been mentioned earlier (upgrade to 3.01 on T-Mobile MDA Vario II). I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Speed actually seems faster than before. The question I have got now is what happened to the rSAP (Remote Simm Access Profile) as I need to ensure that I can use my phone in my "troublesome" Mercedes CLS. Never was able to pair it with the car so i'll be testing it tonight. I just noticed that the rSAP seems to be missing.
Any help on this will be greatly appreciated.
Vido.
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I gave rSAP a try with an earlier black build, and I'm sorry to tell you that it behaved exactly the same as WM5 with the Merc car kit - i.e. just doesn't work (even once you've hacked the stack to make the Hermes look like a phone). If you get anywhere, it would be great to hear, but I'm afraid I think the Merc kit is just toooo limited in what it supports.
vido said:
I took the plunge today and installed version 3.01 straight from WM5. I was initially a bit apprehensive being my first update since I got the phone and I can confirm that it works well. I simply had to add the 3G and MMS settings back or just use the T-Mobile cab to get everything back to normal.
Vido.
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Hi Vido.
I hope you read the extensive guides mr Vanx has done on upgrading. If not, consider this a stern warning to do so *now* (link in my sig)
Your post suggests that you did not put on the olipro bootloader which means you are taking a risk flashing any OS rom onto your phone - if something went wrong, you would brick your phone.
For you and anyone else reading this, please read Mr Vanx's guides and save yourself, and everyone else, the headache of trying to recover your phone as this stuff voids your warranty.
Cheers,
Smiffy.
ok guys im on tmobile usa and mms doesnt work at all on any of the new wm6 roms. do you guys suggest that i try the uk settings
Hi, you need to check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299023
If USA not on here go to your T-Mobile website and do the settings manualy or get them from tech support...
Then post in the above thread!
Martyn
Hi Smiffy/All,
I actually followed all the instructions regarding upgrading to WM6 by flashing all the instructions in Mr Vangs guideline and used the 1.40.olipro bootloader. I just didn't type in all the details because of space. What I meant was that this is my first attempt at upgrading to WM6 after reading all the instructions in this forum.
Like I said my phone still does not work with the Mercedes Bluetooth UHI which is a pain and one of the reasons why I performed the upgrade. The other thing I have just noticed is that my ohne now finds it difficult to connect to my wifi at home using simple WEP key. I was only able to connect to my wifi at work only once after which it doesn't connect anymore. Has anybody else encountered this problem or is it only me.
Last question, is it possible to have the VOIP (Sip) work with T-Mobile? it shows up as "Service Blocked" and I read it somewhere that this can be tweaked. does anyone have the settings for testing this?
Apart from that the Black edition 3.01 is really cool.
Regards,
Vido.
Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
wywywywy said:
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.
and html email is not to be sneezed at.
Because we can!
Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....
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Because we can!
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exactly!!!!!!!!
My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.
I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant
Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.
Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.
bingobob said:
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...
I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.
What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?
Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
F*SH said:
... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?
LazPL said:
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.
Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!
Hey guys,
First post on the forum, so I hope I don't offend/irritate with my dumbass questions,
I successfully flashed to the Black Shadow IV rom yesterday. I installed all th e helpful cab files to restore my settings to the orange standard and got the skdcert fix for the voicemail quirk. All seems (seemed) to be running smoothly but I then stumble upon a problem.
I have found that I am resetting the device more than I should due to the fact that whenever I try to make a call, 5 times out of 10 the phone just crashes, all the buttons freeze up and the touch screen doesn't respond. On the odd occassion the buttons freeze but the screen still responds butr there's no way to drop the call. It just wont have it.
I upgraded to the Black IV shadow rom, but did not upgrade the radio which was out of the box at version 1.38.00.01. Could this be the root of the problem? I am running SPL- 2.10 Olipro.
Any ideas guys, you're the experts, I'm just a squirrel trying to get a nut.
Thanks in advance.
Gav
The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
That ROM was released and is supported here: http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/htc-hermes/
Same happend to me too, I used Black Shadow IV for a week and now removed it, It is not stable.
My Jasjam hangs all the time and when conncting to PC.
Regards
Yeah, same. I used it for 3 days or so and crashed frequently. No additional programs installed either. BAD ROM
i've had nothing but a good experience with Shadow IV. ::shrug:: seems stable enough to me. it's never locked up on me and i've never had to reset except when i chose to to clear out the old memory once in a while.
as i mentioned in another thread, i have not installed any spb apps since they seem to have problems w/ WM6. i've had problems on a couple of different ROMs w/ the Spb apps.
could it be something that you've got installed and not the ROM itself? i had to do a little process of elimiation by installing basically one or two apps a day and seeing how it ran. things started going badly when the Spb apps were on there (Mobiel Shell, Time, Weather, Diary) so I haven't reinstalled them.
anyway, it could be something other than the ROM that is causing the instability.
regards,
mark
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
having multiple problems as well. cannot send text messages on cingular even after trying multiple fixes, frequent slowdowns, have had to soft reset at least once daily and also having problems with random lockups when charging. Going to reflash another rom.
Am on Orange UK, and after running Black shadow for a while now I would rate it as the most stable ROM I have used. Admittedly I have only dabbled with some of the others, but have not felt the need to do more as am happy with what I have.
I did have an issue with SPB weather that others did not seem to have, but after romoving it, everything seems to be running fine. I soft reset every few days etc but I am happy with that.
Tis a bit strong to write BAD ROM with such certainty based on an individual experience, given that it works well for so many. Perhaps "This ROM did not work well for me" would be better.
Just a thought.
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The 1.38 radio is pretty stable. However, if you are in the US, you might want to try upgrading it to the 1.40 radio which is AT&T optimized.
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May be it is the radio rom, I have now installed radio 1.38 then Black Shadow IV and will try it for a few days and see how it works.
Also crash
Also crash and then back to Black 3.5 rom is Stable!
Still the same even with Radio 1.38, Crash when connected to PC and deep sleep in standby.
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
marttin said:
Use to have same problems while running CE-Star. Virtually permanently freezing on making/receiving calls, sending SMS and simple operations with the device.
After manualy setting chinese character set (thanks to XDA-Devs WIKI ) the ROM is extremely stable. Even trying to "destroy" the system with multiple operations (calls, internet browsing, sync, installing new soft, etc.) do not freezes it - very stable.
Suspect in your case you are using software which makes some changes to the system, consequently destabilizes the ROM
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
Been running Black Shadow for 5 days, alongwith Radio 1.43, without any problem...
I've been running Black Shadow on T-mo US w/1.43 rom and I've had no problems.
I have been running Black Shadow since it was released and no problems so far.
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Hi,i am runing Black 3.0.1 and ce-star,like ou said freezing ,and my problem is when i use CE-STAR keyboard,it is Freezing too.where i can find the setting chinese charscter set?
thanks
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Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
All,
I have been running this ROM for just under a week and the thing has been 100% solid - not a single problem.
I also agree with a previous statement in this thread, that to refer to the ROM as "BAD" based on a single attempt is somewhat unfair! Maybe it is this sort of thing that has forced some of the more senior Hermes developers away from this site and on to another location. Ever thought about it that way?
It is just my opinion, but we (all forum users) should do one of two things if we "chose" to use someone elses development. They are,
Acknowledge (privately or publically) the time and effort that has gone into producing something. The best way to do that is by constructive feedback even if the experience hasn't been as you expected
Say nothing if you can't make it constructive!
To place a one liner in a response with a "throw away" comment is about as useful to either the developer or the other forum users as.........well,..................no I won't go any further because it's not constructive
For the record - this version of the Black release has rectified a localised issue I was having with my WLAN that other version had not resolved.
If you chose to use it - great, join in. If not, equally great. Good luck with your chosen selection of ROM.
Rant end
marttin said:
Use WIKI and SEARCH funstion
You can go first to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/ and click on Hermes. After that use SEARCH function with keyword "chinese". Should get the following page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweak_Language_Chinese
I am using for few days Black Shadow with 1.43 Radio, able to read Chinese Characters thanks to the described in WIKI method and no problems. Personaly I installed A4 input method as it serves me at best. I didn't change the registry manualy, but used the cab, it works perfect. Simply follow the instructions.
The only issue is that when serving internet with IE Chinese sites do not apear properly. Suppose it is needed additional fixing of the fonts in IE. Do not have time at present to explore the issue, but suppose to deal with it next week. In case you find a solution for IE please share the method on this thread-- Thanks
PS. Have tested Micrsoft Input -- simply do not works. Causes a lot of problems and destroys totaly the standard inputs
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thanks a lot
I read it on a thread (I WISH I could remember where so credit could be given where due)... but the solution worked like a charm.
I have a Dash running WM6 on T-Mob. Since the launch of GMM2 Ive been both excited and terribly disappointed that I couldn't get it to work. However... the solution is simple: get "appunlock" (from surreal networks) and install. Then reboot.
That's it. After I did this, my location showed IMMEDIATELY on the GMM app as a happy little blue dot. YAY!!!
Happy locating everyone!!!
Thank you so much for the tip. I used the APP unloked on my S621 and MyLocation feature works now.
Where you been?
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I read it on a thread (I WISH I could remember where so credit could be given where due)... but the solution worked like a charm.
I have a Dash running WM6 on T-Mob. Since the launch of GMM2 Ive been both excited and terribly disappointed that I couldn't get it to work. However... the solution is simple: get "appunlock" (from surreal networks) and install. Then reboot.
That's it. After I did this, my location showed IMMEDIATELY on the GMM app as a happy little blue dot. YAY!!!
Happy locating everyone!!!
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Um honestly where have you been? It's been known for quite a while that you can get MANY smartphone apps to work on the dash by simply app unlocking it. I'd suggest hunting around first before posting because you're dishing old info...
yeh you haven't app unlocked your phone yet?? wtf
You guys are butts. I don't even know what "MyLocation" is or what it's for, but I have app unlocked my phone and performed many tweaks. That's why we come to this site--to learn new things!
App Unlock for GMM
Okay, my HTC S621 also says 'location is temporarily unavailable' Since I've had the phone I've upgraded it to Rogers WM6 (although I'm with Suncom), I've installed numerous applications like Google Maps, Microsoft Voice Command, TCPMP + plugins, Palringo, Fring, etc. I did have to use the methods mentioned on this site to temporarily lift the CID lock to install WM6.
But I'm thinking that this would that mean that my phone isn't application locked. Or does the application unlock, do something else. It seems to me that since I can pretty much install anything I'd like, that my phone is not application locked, and therefore this GMM proposed fix isn't really a fix.
I look forward to your responses.
Thank you,
Tim
just tryin' to lend a hand...
Im no expert.... clearly. However, Ive never had to appunlock my phone to install or run the software I have added to my Dash. Ive had it for well over a year and the "My Location" feature of GMM is the only thing Ive run across (that I have any need for) that has required appunlock to work. Old news or not... since GMM2 has been released nearly all (I'd say 5 out of 6) of the postings about it that are associated with the Dash say that while the mapping software worked fine, the "My Location" feature did not. It always and immediately (without attempting to connect tot he network) gave a "You location is temporarily unavailable" message. Since adding appunlock the feature now works as it was designed. My intention isnt to waste your time with 'old news' (if you already know it); It's simply to help others out there like me who just want the program to work and are looking for a solution. If you already have it working, why bother reading this thread?
Just trying to help a brotha out, you know? :-D
My S621 was app unlocked. I've installed many unsigned apps, including GMM2.0, but the MyLocation feature didn't work. I just ran the surreal appunlock, and now it works!
Weird, no idea why it works, but it does...
as I understand it, appunlock makes a few registry edits that allow your device to run 'non-microsoft-certified' programs. Ive added a number of other programs without issue (just as you are saying), so I was a bit surprised that this solution would be necessary...nonetheless, it worked, and was an easy fix. Hope it works for you too!
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My S621 was app unlocked. I've installed many unsigned apps, including GMM2.0, but the MyLocation feature didn't work. I just ran the surreal appunlock, and now it works!
Weird, no idea why it works, but it does...
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Same with my phone. It was already app unlocked but the Sureal Network app is the only one that work on to get My Location working.
You were correct!
Apparently the appunlock cab file does something to the settings. Because now it works just fine! It zoomed to within 1700 meters or so from my house. If anything it'll at least get you in the vicinity of where you're at.
This really makes the Google Maps worthwhile having on your phone, even if you do lack GPS.
I just want to say thanks to whoever started this thread because I HAD Google Maps, but was not aware that there was an update! I already had the Surreal Networks AppUnlock, so when I upgraded to GMM 2, (which I discovered after reading this thread), I was able to see "My Location." It's great! Thanks to those of you who know who you are!
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Im no expert.... clearly. However, Ive never had to appunlock my phone to install or run the software I have added to my Dash. Ive had it for well over a year and the "My Location" feature of GMM is the only thing Ive run across (that I have any need for) that has required appunlock to work. Old news or not... since GMM2 has been released nearly all (I'd say 5 out of 6) of the postings about it that are associated with the Dash say that while the mapping software worked fine, the "My Location" feature did not. It always and immediately (without attempting to connect tot he network) gave a "You location is temporarily unavailable" message. Since adding appunlock the feature now works as it was designed. My intention isnt to waste your time with 'old news' (if you already know it); It's simply to help others out there like me who just want the program to work and are looking for a solution. If you already have it working, why bother reading this thread?
Just trying to help a brotha out, you know? :-D
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My comment wasn't a "hey retard nur nur" but it was a response to your apparent "fix" to get GMM to work. I was simply stating that app unlocking your phone is your answer to many installation and functionality issues. Sorry if i came off as abrasive but it wasn't meant as strong as it appeared. Let me reiterate: "App unlocking isn't just the answer to get mylocation on gmm working, it's your answer to many of your installation issues" there problem solved..
No Prob. And likewise, I appreciate your clarification. :-D
Now... if only we could start digging into/toying with the 'upcoming' WM6.1...
I just unlocked my phone and all but my location is still not working. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Did you use Surreal Networks AppUnlock program?
Are you somewhere with a decent signal? It won't work if you're in the Boonies!
Yes I have three bars on my cell phone, and I do not see why it would not work? Any suggestions?
Yeah i also have no luck with the my location feature, i used the appunlock from surreal, I have four bars and am on the Edge network right now, but it always says that my location is unavailable...
doesn't work on my cavalier either
not working
be sure to reboot your phone after the appunlock and then 're-set" GMM2. I believe you go to "Menu/Options/Reset Google Maps".
That should work. beyond that, unfortunately, I would have to suggest going to one of the Google community forums, but I really didnt find much there when I looked.
Good Luck!