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Ok, I am getting increasingly frustrated trying to resolve an issue... my Xda O2 IIs keeps "waking itself up" ....aaaargh!!!
I hit the power button on the top to shut off the display (it saves power and enables me to lock the other keys from being accidentally pushed) but after a very short time, the screen comes on by itself, and I can't figure out WHY!!!!
While just sitting on my desk or out on the road, not in the cradle, I noticed, from time-to-time, that the "G" Icon at the top is often replaced by an "x" and the 'left/right sync arrows' ...so I naturally thought it was trying to connect to something.
I thought it might be trying to connect to GPRS, so I removed the connection. It didn't fix the issue.
I thought it was a Bluetooth File Transfer issue, so I deleted that connection also... still no resolve.
I checked my ActiveSync settings, and it all looks ok.
PLEASE HELP, it's killing the length of life in my battery on a daily basis!!!
i had the same problem when i was on the o2 rom, i sorted it by getting shut of the o2 rom and installing the imate 1.40 rom.... it runs faster,better and never needs soft reseting, with the added bonus of wm10.
but i kinda came to the conclusion that when the fone itself talks to the network every so often, ( ya know when u get interferance when its next to a radio or ur desktop speakers.) as it did it at those times, maybe u should stick it next to something and see if u get the radio interference, and see if it does this in flight mode......
also maybe think about removing the o2 active if u have that, and as a last resort, if no-one else can halp with a fix, maybe think about upgrading to imate 1.40 rom...
Mine did this for a while. I can't remamber the EXACT setting, but it was activesync trying to sync on a schedule (like every 5 minutes) over WAP.
If its the same problem, a bit of rummaging around the activesync settings should sort it out.
-Mike
Thanks joey jojo. Thanks mike freegan.
Joey, where can I get iMate 1.40 ??? Although, I really don't want to use the iMate rom. Ideally, I'd like to find and fix the problem I'm having with this O2 rom.
Mike, I checked my ActiveSync settings on the device... everything looks ok to me. Under ActiveSync/Tools/Options/PC Synchronization: 'Use this PC' is set to ZEUS (which is my computer name) and the other two boxes are UNchecked for 'Use mobile schedule to sync with this PC' and 'Sync with this PC during manual sync' ...then when I click on the Options button, the 'When cradled' dialogue appears, the checkbox for 'Enable PC sync using this connection:' is CHECKED and the connection to use is set for 'USB' . Then, under the 'Mobile Schedule' tab, everything is set to 'Manually'.
BTW, when I put the device in 'Flight Mode' ...it doesn't mysteriously 'wake-up' by itself.
I agree, it appears to be trying to use GPRS to 'connect' or 'sync' with something... I just can't seem to find what or where the cause is located. Aaaargh!!! Any other ideas guys?? Anyone else?
XDA III IIs IIi Waking UP
I've found that if I leave my bluetooth switched on it does this I'd love to have my bluetooth on all the time but as it does this I have it off unless I'm using my GPS.
Can this be fixed ?
Thanks Carl n Adele,
I tried your suggestion, shutting off BlueTooth, but after doing so, and then pressing the power button, the device STILL wakes-up after about 20-30 seconds. So, that wasn't the problem.
Is there any O2 subscribers that can call O2 Tech Support and ask some questions? I'd even call myself if I could pretend to be someone else. Just a thought, if there was anyone willing to help out.
i will try to get u xda support number, i work at o2 so i might be able to ask someone too... tho i guess they wont know, cos there idiots.... lol
I had this problem too. Found that Activesync was still running in the background and was using "mobile schedule" to sync via GPRS (even when set to manual), check that ActiveSync does not appear in the Running program list...
Thanks joey jojo, I really would appreciate the help!
m4ttyw, you are correct, ActiveSync was running in the background. But I had set everything in ActiveSync to MANUALLY SYNC. Nevertheless, I STOPPED ActiveSync in the Running Programs List, then pressed the Power Button again, and with fingers crossed and holding my breath, I waited to see if the device would 'wake itself up' again... and... sure enough, it did. Same thing as always! DAMN! Nice try though, thanks.
This is really frustrating me. The manual shows NOTHING about that Icon at the top if the screen (see earlier message in this thread) and what it is doing, so I can only think that is is still trying to connect or sync something... AAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!
Hmmmm, I wonder if it might have something to do with the GSM Band setting? It's currently set to Automatic, I am not sure what it SHOULD be set to for Rogers in Canada???
Darn think waking up
checked all my settings and its def the bluetooth causing my problems
Not mine, Carl... I have BlueTooth SHUT OFF and the device still wakes up by itself!!!
NEW Observation: When the device wakes-up, it takes about 5 seconds before the "G" icon changes to the 'sync' icon with the 'x' (see pics earlier in this message thread) but, I've noticed that signal strength drops off to nothing except a few dots "..." as if it were searching for a signal. And then, immediately comes back to normal signal strength.
sol
This is sometimes caused by a conflict between ur current radio stack and the frequency ur network is using.
What i mean is, the 'G' icons only represents the availability of gprs in ur current coverage area.By default, ur phone syncs with ur provider every x interval
in seconds, by which the state of gprs availability is changed (Hence,its icon) in ur case, ur pda wakes up whenever ur pda syncs with ur network. A temporary solution would be to choose a network configuration (under settings - connections) which doesnt have a gprs connection. This might, or might not cure it. The best thing to do in my opinion is to change ur current Rom ( or atleast ur radio Rom) that would definately cure the problem.
Try both solutions and post.
Sorry for my worse english.
I met this problem for several times, and it seem to cause by active sync inside the PPC.
I have to connect it to PC and have a Sync Operation,then solve it .
My Device :
Simpified Chinese Dopod 696
The Version Number is fogotten Because I had upgraded it .
Thanks gz_lgz,
I think you are CORRECT!!!! I started to think about what you said in your message, and decided to INSTALL the NEW VERSION of ActveSync 4 on my desktop pc.
After installing ActiveSync 4, I did a sync, removed device from cradle, pressed the power button on the device and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... AND it did NOT WAKE ITSELF UP!!!
It seems there was something happening with the ActiveSync installed on the device that was not working properly and therefore kept trying to sync itself again & again, but since installing the new version of ActiveSync, it corrected the problem.
NOTE: I suppose that uninstalling and reinstalling the OLD version of ActiveSync may have done the same thing... but I never tried to do that.
Nevertheless, I am very happy that it is working properly now!!!
Thanks EVERYONE for your time and patience and WILLINGNESS to help!
Gentlemen,
After upgrading to the latest Dangaard ROM I've got a problem that seems to have the same root cause although the symptoms are slightly different.
If Bluetooth is switched on and my hands-free Logitech is paired with the Blueangel, it wakes up every minute. Once the hands-free is switched off, the device sleeps normally. Another lame thing is if the phone call is long enough for the device to go to the sleep mode (longer then 1 minute in my case), the Bluetooth connection is dropped and the sound is transferred to internal speaker.
There is no need to mention that Activesync is stopped. I'm quite sure that all these problems have something to do with the power management of the device. That's why I'd like to ask if somebody uses any additional software for the power management and if you've got any recommendation on the subject.
Hope it could help us to get rid of the problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. My device details are mentioned in the signature.
PS. Thanks to all the contributors to this wonderful forum. I must admit that the idea of BlueAngel was as great as the implementation sucks...
Update: Check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=21235
I think this workaround is good enough.
just a thought, but open active sync on your xda, and make sure that on the PC tab, the box marked 'use mobile schedule to sync with this pc' is not ticked and the other marked 'sync with this pc durin manual sync' IS ticked
also on mobile schedule tab, all selections are set to manually, and the box marked 'sync outgoing items as they are sent' is not ticked.
dunno if that will help, but its a thought anyway!!!
joey 8)
Guinness said:
Thanks gz_lgz,
I think you are CORRECT!!!! I started to think about what you said in your message, and decided to INSTALL the NEW VERSION of ActveSync 4 on my desktop pc.
After installing ActiveSync 4, I did a sync, removed device from cradle, pressed the power button on the device and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... and waited... AND it did NOT WAKE ITSELF UP!!!
It seems there was something happening with the ActiveSync installed on the device that was not working properly and therefore kept trying to sync itself again & again, but since installing the new version of ActiveSync, it corrected the problem.
NOTE: I suppose that uninstalling and reinstalling the OLD version of ActiveSync may have done the same thing... but I never tried to do that.
Nevertheless, I am very happy that it is working properly now!!!
Thanks EVERYONE for your time and patience and WILLINGNESS to help!
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ah, i didnt read that before my last post, ok, glad to hear you sorted your problem out tho!!!
joey 8)
i get the same problem with mine - ever since i turned my active sync onto manual it started with the problem so i turned it back to automatic.. just seeing if that fixed the problem i've been having..
also Downloading the lastet Active sync 3.8 and see if that helps..
I've figured out that its Sprite Backup Software v3.0 thats causing my XDAIIs switch on all the time. Disabling the Scheduled Backup seems to resolve the problem.
However, I've upgraded to SBSv3.14 which works even without turning off Scheduled backup.
Hope this helps
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
Ive had the same issues, my internet connection will just randomly quit on me. One second it will be working the next it will disconnect. Seems to be when I bring it out of standby or get a call. Definitely not as stable as WM5 was.
Radio Version?
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
electron73 said:
Hi all!
I know this has been discussed before, but it has never really been answered or a *working* solution been found to this problem:
I have the Cingular 8525 and my WAN connection (yes, no matter if it's Edge, 3G or HSDPA and no matter if I use isp.cingular or wap.cingular) just seems to die off after the PDA has been sitting for a while in STANDBY.
After seeing how incredibly stable and reliable all the blackberrys work, I still opted for the PDA because I liked the versatility plus the ADVERTISED push capabilities of it.
Apart from non-working tools like "gprs keepalive" etc, how can anyone REALLY PREVENT programs that are running from being stopped? Is there a Reg-Hack for this?
Here's my setup. Fresh blank WM VI Black 2.0 (great imags jas !!) and ONLY VGSMail (for mailpush) and IM+ for yahoo messenger installed. Rest absolutely untouched. Everything works fine as long as the thing is actually ON (display lit up and everything). Once i either wait for the timeout or manually put it in standby by pressing the power button, the Yahoo IM+ will react for another 5 minutes, but VGSmail almost immediately goes deaf. I have a TCP bridge in front of my IMAP server so I can see all in/out traffic to the IMAP by just accepting connections on port 1430 and routing all traffic to 143 while dumping it into a log. I can see the PDA connect the server and go into IDLE. Every time a new message arrives, the PDA is SUPPOSED to get it, but it just doesn't when it's in standby. Completely defeats the whole purpose of it.
Long story short:
HOW do you prevent the connection/radio/windows/software from "silently falling asleep" when the connection should stay open and new messages (email via VGS or IMs via IM+) should be received?
P.s. I already used the included HTweakC to acticate autoconnect and permanent connect. opens up the connection fine after reboot, but that's it!
THIS HAPPENS WITH EVERY IMAGE I HAVE TRIED! Original Cingular, Cingular Hacked AKU3.3, Black 1.2 and Black 2.0 :-((
Thanks
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silverfox0214 said:
Which radio version are you running? I have two things different with my configuration, but I had similar issues with my service (T-Mo USA).
My GPRS connection would hang, even when on the charger (not sleeping).
Turns out a radio update caused the behavior to quit altogether. I could drive completely across town, and have 10-15 new emails in my box, whereas before, I had to either press/hold the disconnect button, or soft reset.
My current versions are in my signature.
Hope this helps.
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Yeah, I had radio 1.27.00.00 before, now I have 1.38.30.10
Also I do have newest Hard-SPL 1.40 installed. So I'm pretty much cutting edge here. Howewer, the PROBLEM has been annoying me since WM2003SE.
Is it just the way it is with desktops? Micky Mouse Soft dominates the market, releases one pile of **** after another, never really fixing bugs but introducing new ones by the thousands and we users (who in this case have paid $500 for the device) are left in the dust?
If I just imagine delivering buggy crap like this to MY customers, they would kill me!
Anyone have some good ideas or hacks? I definitely need to get this working at least to a somewhat acceptable level. Since having the Hermes with the first "original" WM5 on it, I got used to rebooting that unreliable Micro$hit every morning when I get up, to make it usually just about last for the day. I'm definitely not willing to reboot every hour !!!
I have this problem
I have this problem however I still receive push email. the most annoying thing is that I cannot keep a data session active with a voice call.
I am on Orange UK network. I use 4smartphone's hosted exchange service. I get directpush working 24/7 with Black 2.0 OS. I also receive my pop email whilst on voicecalls.
So its not a WM6 issue. Its either your network or your connection settings.
I must say that it actually improved a lot since installing Black 2.0. However, the connection still silently dies off eventually. I now have a makeshift solution using FlexMail, set to poll emails every 15 min. So what happens is as long as the PDA is ON, I get immediate PUSH mail. Once I put it in standby, it continues to work for a minute or two, then the connection ****s up. Every 15 min Flexmail wakes up and polls for emails, which most of the times seems to work as I can see in my logfile that every 15 min the tcp connection opens up and the server dumps all new mails over to the phone. It then enters IDLE and at some point dies away with "recv(): connection timed out".
So it's all pretty messy still and I'm wondering what you can do to PREVENT the line from silently dying in the first place. Tried tools like GPRS Keepalive with no luck, since the whole program stops being executed in standby and hence it can not keep the connection up = useless. I need some hack/tool/program that stays active during standby! Then I could just have it ping my mailserver once per minute to keep the connection open.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated
Could my problem be related? - see my post under Treo 750:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324495
I am testing to see if I get the same behaviour with 3G/UMTS as I do with GPRS....
I NEED A SOLUTION FOR THE WIFI ,NOTHING WORKED!!it works sometimes,,,the problem is the famous problem of starting it,,,the lamp flashes but the tower doesnt show,,,!
i used every known rom and 2003se and wm5 nothing helped it works sometimes and someother times not,,,,,
it needs soft reset sometimes,,,and some times very resistant
my radio version now is 1.15 and 3.5.2 R5 wm5 and still sometimes i can start it and someother times i cant.....is there any fix for that?
i will sell my BA if i cant find one!
lotfytronics said:
I NEED A SOLUTION FOR THE WIFI ,NOTHING WORKED!!it works sometimes,,,the problem is the famous problem of starting it,,,the lamp flashes but the tower doesnt show,,,!
i used every known rom and 2003se and wm5 nothing helped it works sometimes and someother times not,,,,,
it needs soft reset sometimes,,,and some times very resistant
my radio version now is 1.15 and 3.5.2 R5 wm5 and still sometimes i can start it and someother times i cant.....is there any fix for that?
i will sell my BA if i cant find one!
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I know excatlh the problem you mean as mine has done that for a long time. however, since I flashed Helmi's Wm6 rom mine hasn't done it again. it maybe the fix you need then again it may not depending on your device.
Mine is originally and Orange M2000 and prior to trying Orange's last official rom and t-mobile's latest rom as well it was still doing exactly as you described. make sure your moel is listed in helmi's description of compatable devices. and remember to do pim backup and backup you Storage arear before flashing as it combines internal storage to main memory in the wm6 rom
hope that helps
I just got my BA a few days ago. Did the WM6 upgrade today, and the wlan was doing this.
I noticed that it was happening after I'd sync'd it and the wifi connection was disabled by ActiveSync. I went into the Connection Settings on ActiveSync on my computer (ver. 4.5) and checked the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
So far, this has worked. I've been able to sync my BA, disconnect, and reconnect to my wireless connection without having to do a reset first.
Nita
wheatfree said:
I noticed that it was happening after I'd sync'd it and the wifi connection was disabled by ActiveSync. I went into the Connection Settings on ActiveSync on my computer (ver. 4.5) and checked the "Allow wireless connection on device when connected to the desktop"
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This appears to be a bug in the ROM. Activesync on the phone doesn't always realize that the connection is gone and gets 'stuck' in a loop trying to sync to a now-missing computer. Closing activesync on the phone will also clear it and allow the wifi to work after syncing.
i flashed it with wm6 but the wifi probelm still exists,,,only the lamp flashes but no tower is showing,,,,,,,,,,and i tried the wlan manager,,,and the com manager nothing helped
I have exactly the same problem, i think its an hardware error.
the problem started half a year ago with wm2003, yesterday i flashed wm6 but the bug still exists
after multiple switch on-and-off sometimes the wireless works, sometimes it takes just a while 5-10 minutes.
if theres somewhere a solution, please let me know
after a soft reset open CommManager, Setup, Wireless LAN an Select "TURN ON WLAN".
This dont conect.
But, after you do that, you can use te On/Off button of Wifi on te CommMannager with any problem...
You need to do this, only one time after a Soft Reset.
Can this be done via a script, reg key or even a Visual Basic App that opens the Comm Manager and the Wireless Manager and selects these in sequence? I have a profile switching software (PhoneAlarm) and it works a treat all for the activatation of WLAN. Sometimes it works fine, others, it doesn't.
As I am running WM6 and it's lovely undocumented feature (bug) of the time and password both being in volitile memory, each time I take my battery out, I have to rebuild the 'ken device as I cannot unlock the screen. I have resorted to using SPB backup nightly and a reboot after backup (as the device seems to work better with a daily reset (hey, it ain't stable yet - we are still waiting Billy)). This is where the Wireless issue comes into play.
Do I settle for Profile switching with wireless powering on correctly or do I backup my device and ensure that I am not re-imaging the stupid thing every day when I take out the battery! Mobile device - bulldust! Not very mobile when you have to keep it plugged in to ensure the battery doen't run out! My Laptop is more mobile!
jriquelme said:
after a soft reset open CommManager, Setup, Wireless LAN an Select "TURN ON WLAN".
This dont conect.
But, after you do that, you can use te On/Off button of Wifi on te CommMannager with any problem...
You need to do this, only one time after a Soft Reset.
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no, that doesnt work with my BA
Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.
I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
[email protected] said:
Hi!
Is there something that could auto disconnect GPRS/WiFi, lets say after 10 min, if it wasn't used?
I wanted setup to check for new mail every 2 hours, and it connects to GPRS and then it stays connected forever, draining the battery without purpose...
Thank you.
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Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/
Check this great little app, it syncs your Outlook accounts when you want and disconnects the data after...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696
m0nkm0nk said:
Yeah, or something that the connection isnt reconnecting after i said DISCONNECT :/
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Yes, this is the first and I must add the most annoying thing that I've experienced in WM6 (never had this in WM5), especially when you don't have unlimited data plan - that reconnection is just ridiculous.
It actually made me go back to WM5 for a while, until I decided give WM6 another chance. Hopefully I was able pinpoint what make it connect all the time - Windows Live service, specifically Windows Live Messenger. Basically you have to manually logout from the messenger before you close it, otherwise it will just minimize itself when you thought you closed it.
Or just don't use it...
@Sane:
Thanks for the link. Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately) I don't use Outlook and that app is pretty much useless for me, but sure it might be useful for others.
Speaking of Outlook, is there another good alternative to it which we could use to manage contacts? (not necessarily use it to sync with WM6 contacts directly, but perhaps be able export them to another format that later could be imported in WM6)
I've tryed NSContacts which is pretty good, if you can remmember all the time how to avoid some very nasty bugs in it that could make your 1 hour organizing contact be waste of time and you have to start over.
the best options
bandswitch or commgrpro by dan herrerra.
commmgrpro.com
these are both excellent.
[email protected] said:
I found one for WM5, and not sure if it will work for WM6...
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
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this program is not working on my HTC P3600 with WM6.1...
have someone encountered the same problem?
try reading this : http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/03/19/auto-disconnect-gprs-on-ppc.html
Guys,
I notice that when I close the Opera browser, the GPRS is still connected on the background and I don't have such problem with my previous Xperia.
Anyone can tell me any solution to this issue?
I left it on the whole time never disconnected it, unless if the connections failed...
It will not take much of the battery, unless you uses it
I also have this problem on the device....I have an internet flatrate, so costs isn't the problem, but not everybody has a flatrate so it should be fixed.
I wanted to try out the new PUSH-INTERNET option on the phone and it works great, it downloads the webpage content every few hours but it doesnt disconnect automatically after that, so sometimes I look at the phone and find out that the GPRS hast been on for an hour or so,it also happens after I sync the weather on the manila, on the TP it syncs and automatically disconnects, but on the TP2 it just stays connected and I have to disconnect manually which is annoying..........does anyone know how I can fix this??
thx!
This works on mine!
This worked on my artemis and now on the TP2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355742
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings
SuspendResume"="GPRS_bye_if_device_off"
and here you can give the Device time to kill the connection
HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Planner\Settings
CacheTime = 10 (sec.)