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I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
It's a great device, you won't make a mistake It has Intel PXA263 400mhz processor (This is the only thing i don't like in blueangel. It is not so fast. If you plan to play 3d games it is not very good for this. But you can easily overclock it with pocket master to 530mhz. With this frequency it handles everything without Snow Rally - there's a little lag and you can't play Playstation 1 games even if you overclock it to 590. I got 21-23fps in Tony Hawk Pro Skater with @530mhz and Frameskip - 2), 128 ram (This is great! With so much ram you don't need real close button.But there are no applications that wants more than 32 ram, so this is not a big advantage), Big screen and the best design for games(The screen is perfect. It wouldn't be bad if there was VGA screen but QVGA is not so bad either. In web browsing the qvga resolution is a big dissadvantage. You have to scrool a lot. But now there are browsers now that supports Zoom function.With it the browsing is good even on qvga device. When Opera 9.5 comes out it will rock And the design is great for games. It's like joystick when you handle it in landscape position and there are many buttons), 64mb Flash Storage(It's not much but you don't need more. There are SD Cards for that), SD/MMC expansion slot( The bad thing here is that it doesn't support SDHC, there are no drivers for that and there won't be in future ), CIF camera (It is really badd. The image quality is similar. If you try to record video it lags. I don't know why :/ It does it wven in the lowest quality), WiFi( No problems here), Bluetooth (No problems here either), IrDA( It can't be used as a remote controller because the irda range is around 3 meters)
And finally the PocketPC comes with WM2003. You can install WM6.1 but I recommend you to wait for explode's WM6.1. His roms are the best With the new windows the pocket becmoes really fast and stable. That's all, it's a great device
dark_prince said:
I have planned to buy O2 XDA IIs from my frnd (2nd hand for sure)
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Nice choice. I recently picked up a hermes and while it is very nice, there are some things I miss from the Angel.
dark_prince said:
Does it comes under the name, blueangel???
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I don't quite understand this question. If you are asking if it was sold under the name of Blue Angel, no. Blue Angel is the HTC internal name for the phone. It was never sold by HTC directly, but to the various cell carriers who rebadged it with their own plastics and ROM/applications.
dark_prince said:
also please tell me pros and cons about this dmobile device
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Pros:
Good CPU speed (the keiser runs at the same speed, 400 mhz)
The CPU has been around for a while, so 3rd party apps that are designed for the CPU work well.
Good physical size on the screen
Lots of storage and program memory when the extended ROM is resized/removed.
Cons:
Since it is an older platform, any MW version after 2003 is a hack. The drivers are generally ported from other phones and there are various bugs that will probably never be fixed due to a lack of hardware drivers. Everything does work, there are just various quirks.
Radio range (bluetooth, wifi, etc) are not the best. Heck, they often tend to be down right crappy.
Unless someone is able to write and release a SDHC driver for the card slot, it will never support SDHC cards, which will limit the phone to 4 gig cards. 2 gig is the official spec for SD, but there are a few 4 gig non-SDHC cards out there.
dark_prince said:
I already own O2 xda exec, typhoon and voyager
what about this one???
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I still like mine and plan on passing it to my wife or using it for testing and development if she doesn't want it.
dark_prince said:
cud U, experienced users please guide me....am i gonna upgrade its rom to WM6 or not??
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I would. MW6 is a huge improvement over 2003 and 5. The latest ROM builds out there work very well, if not 99% perfectly, and are fast.
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
jdc said:
In my opinion, Hemli releasing wm6 for the angel breathed new life into the device.
Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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I second that! Just ditched my Hermes for my old trusty Blue Angel, which blows the pants off it! I forgot how much I loved the 3.5 inch screen!
Rookie as well with the Blue Angel
I am getting started with the Blue angel as well (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I got a couple of complementary questions about it.
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
you should go with opera mobile, as it is better suited for pda's. opera mini is suited for java based mobile phones.
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Really, I wish HTC would revive the device, make an updated version of it. The form factor, while is a bit big for a phone, is great for usability as a PDA.
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man i wish they would do that, or release a device with the same glorious screen but with contemporary features, all in all the blu angel is still a killer device 4 years on.
Absolutely right. I had been using the subj for 4 years in nearly extremal conditions, uprading and downgrading firmware dozen times. But, unfortunately it died as hero. Really great gadget, legend of HTC platform challenging ages.
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Well with WM 6.1 it does everything I need and thats for sure I have my pick of devices and always come back to this one - and the 11i which is just about as good
I cant think of a time I have been upset with what it does or doesn't do. I intend keep one for as long as it will run....
John P
If using ifonz, is it better to install a rom without cube or touchflo? As far as I can make out, ifonz replaces the need for cube?
just had a look at ifonz, looks massively slow - and pants.
if you want your ppc to do everything an iphone does, guess what, buy an iphone!
Partly helpful reg - I prefer the functions on the orbit, and the price, and need the satnav. Anyone who thinks the iphone has nothing to teach us about phone navigation is thick. And I am sure that software will be developped which allows my phone to operate in that way. The current rom of meschles is brilliant, and hopefully will become customisable - if such a word exists. Thanks
iFonz works well olso on little processors like Artemis has.
Did you think 1,2 Mb ram is too much for graphical animated interfaces?
If you want it superfast you can disable fading.
But it's a wonderful software for people loving that style.
Hi,
just tested the "anja" Diamond 1.0 rom, but it's not 100% the same,the main thing I flashed for is the 3D booklet with contacts and HTC home down, but it wasn't in it.
Can anybody make a rom (or program) with the same screens as the Diamond (3d booklet on homepage with contacts on the right see enclosure)? Also the HTC Home tabs are completely down the screen and a direct photo button,...
Thanks,
Innovator
There will be one main problem.... the artemis chip is far away from beeing fast enough for this kind of gimicks
Innovator said:
Hi,
just tested the "anja" Diamond 1.0 rom, but it's not 100% the same,the main thing I flashed for is the 3D booklet with contacts and HTC home down, but it wasn't in it.
Can anybody make a rom (or program) with the same screens as the Diamond (3d booklet on homepage with contacts on the right see enclosure)? Also the HTC Home tabs are completely down the screen and a direct photo button,...
Thanks,
Innovator
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I think many people here working on what you ask for. And if it would be so easy then you could already have it.
Totally agree with Daiphi!!
Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz VS Texas Instruments OMAP850 200 MHz
I think tah cocludes it all!
No reason for and artemis rom with bling-bling 3D effects and no speed what so ever!
3D booklet
I had the Qtek 2020i (520mhz) and the Eten G500 (400MHZ) but i really don't need the fast processor. For only GSM, GPS, WIFI the OMAP 200MZ is fast enough, i have no complaints about applications that run slow, and half processor = half battery consumption. Batterystatus can pimp up your P3300 to 260mhz, but i really don't need this.
I think if someone (maybe Tom Condon could make a fast rom without too many junk, this 3D booklet would run smooth, like the 3D cube.
I think maybe in 2-3 years the P3300 can get slower, due to gps-manufacturers that make better 3D Graphics, but by then the Diamond is dropped to €300 and we have this one allready
Hope to test Igo My Way 8 soon, cause TomTom Navigator's graphics are very basic...
Cheers,
Innovator
^ I've seen Igo 8 on my friend's artemis, and it runs pretty slow on the Artemis Touch 4.02 rom. Well, actually its the same as Tomtom, but when the buildings or any 3D objects on the map come into focus, it does start struggling..
randomgoon said:
^ I've seen Igo 8 on my friend's artemis, and it runs pretty slow on the Artemis Touch 4.02 rom. Well, actually its the same as Tomtom, but when the buildings or any 3D objects on the map come into focus, it does start struggling..
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Tried igo 8 on my orbit - it works on o2 factory rom - but some cooked roms have not enough free ram. After 3 days still 22,7 MB free RAM (screenshots are incl. s. signature)
Innovator said:
I had the Qtek 2020i (520mhz) and the Eten G500 (400MHZ) but i really don't need the fast processor. For only GSM, GPS, WIFI the OMAP 200MZ is fast enough, i have no complaints about applications that run slow, and half processor = half battery consumption. Batterystatus can pimp up your P3300 to 260mhz, but i really don't need this.
I think if someone (maybe Tom Condon could make a fast rom without too many junk, this 3D booklet would run smooth, like the 3D cube.
I think maybe in 2-3 years the P3300 can get slower, due to gps-manufacturers that make better 3D Graphics, but by then the Diamond is dropped to €300 and we have this one allready
Hope to test Igo My Way 8 soon, cause TomTom Navigator's graphics are very basic...
Cheers,
Innovator
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iGo8 works great on this device, I have it installed myself!
I have installed IGO8 on Artemis Touch 4.02 Full no Cube ROM
runs perfect and quick (with full details)
tested also with Anja Mossi Diamond style rom - and there is low free RAM for IGO8
Tested Igo8 today with Oop Black Beta Public Rom from Tom Condon (not condom), no delays, hope to see Tom's latest rom soon with some diamond influences, and booklet maybe instead of cube???
Also installed 'A-GPS' for the first time (quickgps also on rom, but A-gps should be good for 10 days or something).
So people saying IGO8 runs slow on their P3300 --> install a faster rom!!!
Some pre-cooked roms have so much junk that everythings goes slow.
Just take a basic rom (4.02 lite with no cube for example) and install your own stuff.
It's very difficult to cook a rom with tools that everyone uses... i prefer the lite stuff
But when the 3D Diamond interfacte would be included, i would not doubt to install this rom
Sorry for the dumb question but i am using the latest sept 4th rom from energy but was wondering has a windows 7 mobile come out yet for the tilt2??Also i havetried skyfire,opera and IE and think that skyfire is fastest but it it way too inconsistent for my liking. Also seems like the latest rom eats a lof of my battery . Any opinions??
Due to the hardware requirements it seems unlikely (to me) that WP7 will make it to the TP2. The chefs have done some pretty amazing things though, so maybe...
If you like the speed of skyfire try Opera Mini, there's a standalone winmo installer that doesn't use java on opera's site. pretty slick.
ok mate i will try it in a bit and let u know what i think of it!!
WinMo 7 will only be officially offered on new phones that meet the pretty high hardware requirements (the Tilt 2/TP2 does not) and probably won't be out until mid-November at the earliest. Even if someone here manages to extract it into an installable ROM, it would likely run like dog poo on these devices.
Hi all,
As I am a bit of a window shopper and came to ANDROID from a WM device, I was browsing one of my favorite WM websites www.1800pocketpc.com and saw a review for SPB Mobile Shell v5.0 and it said that it would be being released for ANDROID.
SPB was one of my favorite things about using my Samsung Omnia i910 (as it was really the only thing that made it work very well... lol!) and I think for us ex WM users that this will add a familiarity to our devices and a GREAT 3D UI.
What does anyone else think? Do you like this or not?
SPB Mobile Shell is fancy looking, but heavy on the OS
in my WM phone i used it for a while, in the end i took it off, make the WM phone super slooooooooow
didnt make my i8910 super slow and it was nice.. but i think i prefer the android ones with up to 7 pages better.
AllGamer said:
SPB Mobile Shell is fancy looking, but heavy on the OS
in my WM phone i used it for a while, in the end i took it off, make the WM phone super slooooooooow
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Really? It never really slowed down my Omnia i910 but... I did use the steps found on www.samsung-omnia.org to move and delete un-needed items from the windows folder, etc to gain space.
I really liked SPB and there were a tom of mods you could find for skinning, icons, etc.
I might give it a try but that will depend on how much it costs as well...
I wouldn't mind it for android. But getting it running smoothly is a dif kettle of fish
slow my HP 612c and Atom too...
I tried some SPB software, and they are good, but most are too heavy and slow down my WM...
I've always found their products to be ugly.
Spb Mobile Shell 5.0 on Galaxy S
Here i found a nice video with demo of Spb Mobile Shell 5.0 on Galaxy S
http://bit.ly/aoPeSA
quite impressive! thanks for the link..
where can demo be downloaded and when the full ui will be released?
prcach said:
where can demo be downloaded and when the full ui will be released?
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The full app has been released for the manufacturers and carriers: http://spb.com/press/pressreleases/...-shell-5.0-for-manufactures-and-carriers.html
What about us
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i find hard to believe that it didnt leak on the net
it looks exactly like the old one for windows
not a big fan of it, looks like it's going to lag the phone
i'll take LauncherPRO over SPB lag Shell (biased by its windows version)
AllGamer said:
not a big fan of it, looks like it's going to lag the phone
i'll take LauncherPRO over SPB lag Shell (biased by its windows version)
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Compare the hardware of those old WM phones to the SGS, I don't think lag will be a problem. Especially if it has GPU acceleration.
In that video performance looked fluid and flawless.
Not sure I like it though. Going by their Symbian and WM versions, it will be a high priced paid app. Then again it was such a big improvement over the interface in those devices so the price could be justified, while here it already has plenty of competition that doesn't even cost a cent.
i'm planning to try it out and review it once it becomes available on Android Market for Trial
i'll definitely NOT buy it, that's for sure, as i like LauncherPRO as it does exactly what i wanted it to do down to the smallest detail
it was like a custom tailored app for me well worth the donation
Could you give link on different site? For example: mediafire, rapidshare. Please dude.
Could anyone provide links to download this??
Please. Help.
Its not available yet.
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