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Guys,
Just got a massive bill in from o2 - £191 on data.
Appears to coincide with me turning on the download automatically of Quick GPS data. Have I been stung here? What's the cost of this Quick GPS data?
Also its at 00:00 every night....I presume this is when o2 collects their data info.???
Thanks,
HPJ
You've probably been charged for GPRS connections. The file is 50kb large, so simply calculate and you'll have the answer. The best way to avoid that is to delete GPRS settings and download the QuickGPS data via WiFi or just disable the option for autodownloading data when it expires.
No the best thing to do is vote with your wallet and move to a mobile phone network with sensible data prices.
£191 is outrageous. Does it say how much data you used? I'm presuming you have no data bolt on at all and are paying top whack. Is the Orbit also auto checking emails, weather? anything else, because if thats a 50kb download every 3 days for one month with a few extra bytes for connecting, handshaking etc then you can only really be talking about half a Mb a month.
£191 for half a meg!!!!! Something is not right. Could anyone else have used the phone and downloaded anything else?
Well you're right, but I'm not saying, that the bill is only for the QuickGPS data. 50kb x 30 days is around 1,5 mb, which makes > £3 in O2. The bill is probably for using the CoPilot software and downloading maps for it while driving. Am I right ? Are you using this software ? I think the software is actually working like that, downloading the map region, in which you are at the moment. Check your e-mail settings as well, maybe it checks your mail every few minutes (!) and makes the GPRS connection every time. I'm attaching great software to handle your GPRS connections and stop them if you don't want them . Give it a try. Good idea is to install a billing software, which can track your calls, sms and data. Personally I've deleted all the GPRS settings from my mobile and I'm using only WiFi right now.
I noticed on my last O2 bill that I had a high number of connections at exactly midnight and that was before I even had an Orbit.
As did a friend of mine who does have an Orbit.
Something is not right here, can anyone else on O2UK check their bills please?
HPJ said:
Guys,
Just got a massive bill in from o2 - £191 on data.
Appears to coincide with me turning on the download automatically of Quick GPS data. Have I been stung here? What's the cost of this Quick GPS data?
Also its at 00:00 every night....I presume this is when o2 collects their data info.???
Thanks,
HPJ
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No the data should show on your bill at the exact date and time. As you can see from my bill I have strange data useage and this is from APRIL before I had my Orbit (only had it 2 weeks)
leez said:
Well you're right, but I'm not saying, that the bill is only for the QuickGPS data. 50kb x 30 days is around 1,5 mb, which makes > £3 in O2.
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Actually QuickGPS only updates once every 3 days, not daily.
leez said:
The bill is probably for using the CoPilot software and downloading maps for it while driving. Am I right ? Are you using this software ? I think the software is actually working like that, downloading the map region, in which you are at the moment.
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No CoPilot has all the maps it needs stored on your Memory Card. I don't think Copilot has any Traffic report update capabilities, and even if it did, you'd likely have to subscribe to them, so your CoPilot uses NO GPRS data at all.
Your bill is plain Wrong, you need to challenge it!!
Data is amazingly expensive. T-Mobile charge 73p per KB. Thats right, PER KB!!! But only to a max of £1 a day. You could do what I did and go for web'n' walk. which is just £7.50 a month and its unlimited data usage. Good for push email, quickgps and tomtom traffic.
O2 give you a whole 100kb in their monthly plans, which is nothing, they then charge £10 for 20mb. T-mobile still on top here.
Vodafone also do a £7.50 package but its only for 150mb (T-Mobile do have a cap but its 1gb!). If you dont have a data plan its... £2 per MB.
Data will cost you if you dont have some pre-arranged data plan. The unlimited use was the sole reason I went for T-mobile.
I got my data package about six years ago, £25 gets me unlimited free off-peak calls to landlines and O2 mobiles and I get 60 cross network minutes. And unlimited data. And as I get through about 400MB a month I won't change my tarriff even though they say I have to! I just tell them I will go elsewhere.
Unless you have a very good O2 tariff (which would only happen by mistake) vote with your feet - I did, after ten plus years of great service their (O2) GPRS charges are nothing short of a joke - a bloody expensive one I might add.
I decided the T-Mobile web-n-walk at £7,50 PCM for 1GB is fine, I have it on both phones so its possible to do whatever I want internet based and never spend anymore than the basic tariff.
Take up you bill with O2 as something is clearly wrong, if they have supplied the device and it is downloading data of its own accord the problem is theirs not yours so get them to scrub the bill.
Consider putting the SPB GPRS Monitor software on the phone so you can track what the device is doing and exactly when, time/ date, etc - Mike
You dont need these updates, i stopped them from downloading and it takes a few more seconds to get a valid GPS Signal, but costs alot less.
Guys only just been able to read the replies....I think something is seriously wrong.
Here are the stats:
- used Co-pilot less than 5 times since getting Orbit.
- have push email on. Get probably 20 emails / day. Its turned off between 22:00 and 07:00 anyway
- have SPB Shell - weather updates?
- rarely use IE
That's it. Something ain't right.....copy of the bill attached.
HPJ said:
Guys only just been able to read the replies....I think something is seriously wrong.
Here are the stats:
- have push email on. Get probably 20 emails / day. Its turned off between 22:00 and 07:00 anyway
That's it. Something ain't right.....copy of the bill attached.
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Push email uses a hell of a lot of data. At our place we reckoned bout 20MB a day... just on polling etc. (push is a misnomer).
I think that's likely to be your culrpit...
It never used to cost alot....I've used puch email (in the same manner with the same amount of emails) for over 12 months now....
Just called o2....someone is looking into it.
I'll take this opportunity to suggest checking your bills just in case...I don't normally check mine, however could hardly miss the size of the last one.....
push, theres your culprit right there. Push works by your phone constantly telling the server its IP address and that its still on. This polling costs data. Depending on your provider depends on how much your charged.
Some providers do the right thing and charge you based on how much data you use in that month. Some others try and be sneaky and charge you a fix cost per session i.e your phone does the tiny poll and they charge you the min cost of lets say 20p. A few seconds later you do the same and your charged again.
Happend with me in my last workplace while on Vodafone.
Get a dataplan, if you plan on doing ANY form of net access be it push, QuickGPS, traffic info for sat nav then you need a data plan or yourll be very poor indeed.
I don't think it is push email, I don't use it after ten at night. Why is the hook-up at EXACTLY midnight? My mate has the same, MIDNIGHT connects and he does not use push email.
I think there is a major problem with O2s billing.
Guys,
Do not know if this helps I've recently managed to get O2 to agree on ;
O2 200
Unlimited Data
200 extra free texts (o2 treat)
and £120 credit on my account for £55 per month .
As I could not move to another provider (Have more than one handset).
It took a while and a lot of explaining, cross comparing tariff's etc but it can be done.
thanks for the heads up guys... i didnt realise it was soooo expensive!!!
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01/05/07 12:09:22 mobile.o2.co.uk 12009 21.421 P
03/05/07 05:35:33 mobile.o2.co.uk 339 0.661
05/05/07 06:11:13 mobile.o2.co.uk 3374 6.579
09/05/07 04:56:56 mobile.o2.co.uk 509 0.993
10/05/07 01:28:54 mobile.o2.co.uk 2601 5.072
11/05/07 04:28:00 mobile.o2.co.uk 157 0.306
13/05/07 05:42:44 mobile.o2.co.uk 1539 3.001
16/05/07 06:16:22 mobile.o2.co.uk 4076 7.948
17/05/07 15:17:08 mobile.o2.co.uk 591 1.152
18/05/07 00:00:00 mobile.o2.co.uk 2351 4.584
20/05/07 22:32:10 mobile.o2.co.uk 193 0.376
22/05/07 14:10:42 mobile.o2.co.uk 44 0.086
26/05/07 02:09:58 mobile.o2.co.uk 40 0.078
28/05/07 03:31:39 mobile.o2.co.uk 204 0.398
30/05/07 18:17:19 mobile.o2.co.uk 42 0.082
31/05/07 12:22:08 mobile.o2.co.uk 39 0.076
Total Volume 28,108
Total Cost £52.81
no more gprs phone porn for me!
yeah but thats the point....I am absolutely certain it never used to be this expensive. I am sure o2 have cocked something up.
Anyway they are still looking into it.....will let you know when I get a response.
Guys
Maybe this little app will help some of your issues:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310087
At least with this you can completely dictate when you allow a GPRS connection and then maybe even match this against your bills ?
Just a thought really.
I use this to ensure that only WiFi is being used as I dont have an O2 data package due to it being a rip off !
I have Flat rate from my company can surf the internet acording them how much i want for 3 euro for 24 hours
"How much i want" is not realy how much i want
after just 6 hours they said i gone over the limit of 10MB and had to pay another day even if i had like 18 Hours left of internet
The reason i found out Google maps
just loading a street was like 3Mb or more
So is google maps realy that expensive to use?
I might limit my mobilnet to newspapers,email and weather
the phone company is just robbing me
3 euro a day for like what 10MB
they dont even warn you that they going to charge you more
They cant even tell you how much MB you spent
just that you spent way to much and will be double charged
Now i try to check how much money i spent and the web is down
company even charge you money to see how much the bill is
half euro every 24 hours
and i paid it and i cant even see the bill on the web
I calling them now been on wait for 20 minuts
Telefonica must be the worst company in the world for mobile phone
i will switch company soon
anyway to the question Google Maps realy expensive?
i havent seen my blackberry pearl use nearly that much per page, but i dont have my htc fuze yet. Get an unlimited data plan, it is well worth it.
My phone company only have 1 Plan no unlimited plan it sucks
whats worst they dont even tell you is limited until you ask
so my only option is check what other companies have
i am with the spanish state company telefonica
anyway the question is about the Google maps
and yea i was like zooming on my street and got like 3000kb loading
Thats bad. Are there better networks then with unlimited?
Here in Finland I got unlimited 384kbps 9.8e/month
had 512kbps for a while but this is enough since this runs internet radios etc fine.
When I ordered my HD I put that 512 speed for my contract, used for 2 days when my HD came, then I got message from network that I have used 157 euros amount of data. Called them that what the heck and they fixed it and gave me 30euros of free calltime
Had used 60mb or something without contract.
tunppi said:
Thats bad. Are there better networks then with unlimited?
Here in Finland I got unlimited 384kbps 9.8e/month
had 512kbps for a while but this is enough since this runs internet radios etc fine.
When I ordered my HD I put that 512 speed for my contract, used for 2 days when my HD came, then I got message from network that I have used 157 euros amount of data. Called them that what the heck and they fixed it and gave me 30euros of free calltime
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I know there is networks that has triple the price
but i dont know if they unlimited
i think my network is the most expensive in the world
I will keep hands clear off Google maps until i change network
I got through to the 24 hours custumber service after waiting 35 minuts on line.
the answer "Sorry sir the Experts have office hours from 9-22" So much for the 24 hours service
They gave me a claim number and asked me to used it tomorow to get futher answer.
I was just lucky is like impossible to get any custubmber reply after 23.00 even if is 24 hours service.
is the typhical network abusing custumbers just because they big thing
due to the desire being a fairly internet connected phone, i thought i'd try and use it as such only to fall foul of vodafone's rather poor 500mb "unlimited" mobile internet limit.
i've notice the following on their website :
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/forum-53/announcement-137-updated-mobile-internet-charging/
has anyone managed to change to the new "premium" price plan and does it mean that my contract will be reset in any way or does it mean that i can use my desire for what it was designed for ?
mrdo said:
due to the desire being a fairly internet connected phone, i thought i'd try and use it as such only to fall foul of vodafone's rather poor 500mb "unlimited" mobile internet limit.
i've notice the following on their website :
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/forum-53/announcement-137-updated-mobile-internet-charging/
has anyone managed to change to the new "premium" price plan and does it mean that my contract will be reset in any way or does it mean that i can use my desire for what it was designed for ?
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Hi, I think you mean 500MB (Megabyte) not 500mb (megabit)
And to be honest unless your on youtube or watching porn 24/7 500MB is plenty for daily use on a phone!
Edit: And as far as i'm aware the 500MB is more of a "fair usage policy" than a restriction,
Meaning if you do go over (unless it's by alot) then you won't get charged!
But if you go over on a regular basis then i believe it's £5 for every other 500MB.
rob81h said:
Hi, I think you mean 500MB (Megabyte) not 500mb (megabit)
And to be honest unless your on youtube or watching porn 24/7 500MB is plenty for daily use on a phone!
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500MB is woefully inadequate for a phone like the Desire - I'm a relatively heavy user and will always go well over 500MB (mostly for email/web with no streaming video).
My brother, who doesn't use his phone internet much at all, consumes close to 500MB every month. It seems to me that a 500MB allowance is really only for very light users.
IMHO, the only UK carrier with a decent data allowance for Android phones is T-Mobile, which give you 3GB.
Regards,
Dave
Without any streaming video just 4 websites including this one and market app/updates I have since 13 august used 423.4mb.
The limit is too low and is a monthly not daily limit.
Sam
I'm on vodafone and use roughly 700mb a month on my desire - I've never as yet had a warning or charge for my data usage.
One annoying thing about vodafone is their online account checker doesn't even tell you what your data limit is! So I'm not sure that i'm on a 500mb limit (though i was certainly led to believe it would be when i took out the contract)
Dial 44555 and Vodafone will send you a txt with how much of your allowance you've used. In the UK anyway.
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I called voda to complain as my wife just took a desire out on contract with them and get 1gb & also there tarrifs online now say the desire comes with 1gb of data,
took 2 min on the phone and they upped mine from 500mb to 1gb at no extra cost.
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rob81h said:
Hi, I think you mean 500MB (Megabyte) not 500mb (megabit)
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apologies and yes, the limit is a monthly limit rather than a daily limit.
i will try and call vodafone to get my limit upped to 1GB. it's rather disappointing to pay so much for a phone and then not be able to use it properly. i'm not hammering the thing, i just like to be kept up to date ...
i went with vodafone because they were the only network to offer good reception at my home and work but the upgrade to froyo has meant that my connection at home has all but disappeared. :-( perhaps i should have gone with tmobile. or at this rate, it might be cheaper to move house.
I have 3G watchdog installed, and also i use the mobile data settings widget on my front screen, when its not in use i turn it off. when i want it i turn it on. This has greatly improved my battery life too. i only use about 125mb a month now too and thats going on all the sites i normally and downloading off the market.
From that post I understood 2 things.
1.one is that if you got a desire price plan you are eligible to update to 1gb allowance at no extra cost or extra months
2.if you can prove them that by this change in charge you will have to pay more than 10% of what you had to pay before you can send them a written notice and you can brake your contract without any penalty. 10% is if you are paying 30 pounds per month and you have to pay this extra 5 pounds = 35 pounds per month then you go over the 10% and you can send them a letter to brake your contract (but only after you receive a text message saying that you are close to them limit and they have to accept your letter as justified.
it is not clear but i can assume that if you go over 1gb after 1/10 then you automatically pay 5 pounds and also it is not clear if you decide to brake your contract if you keep the desire but i guess you keep it.
what do you think? Did I get it right?
PS: personally i have my phone auto updating facebook email etc, i use it for skype, msn, browsing and some youtube and i am always around 1gb. So i can be happy with the 1gb limit.
fotisp88 said:
From that post I understood 2 things.
1.one is that if you got a desire price plan you are eligible to update to 1gb allowance at no extra cost or extra months
2.if you can prove them that by this change in charge you will have to pay more than 10% of what you had to pay before you can send them a written notice and you can brake your contract without any penalty. 10% is if you are paying 30 pounds per month and you have to pay this extra 5 pounds = 35 pounds per month then you go over the 10% and you can send them a letter to brake your contract (but only after you receive a text message saying that you are close to them limit and they have to accept your letter as justified.
it is not clear but i can assume that if you go over 1gb after 1/10 then you automatically pay 5 pounds and also it is not clear if you decide to brake your contract if you keep the desire but i guess you keep it.
what do you think? Did I get it right?
PS: personally i have my phone auto updating facebook email etc, i use it for skype, msn, browsing and some youtube and i am always around 1gb. So i can be happy with the 1gb limit.
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that sounds about right to me but it's still very confusing.
from what i understand, if you went slightly over your 500MB limit before they'd probably have done nothing about it.
now they will automatically bill you an extra £5. i'm assuming that this also applies to your 1GB limit too :-(
I think the term that vodafone are refering to is:
b You may end this agreement by writing to us if:
# we increase your charges in the UK which have the effect of increasing your total call and usage charges (based on your usage in the previous month) by more than 10% and you write to us before the increase applies;
and to answer another question:
d When this agreement comes to an end:
* we will disconnect your mobile equipment from the network (you may keep the mobile equipment);
* You will not have to pay us any more for the mobile equipment or any of the other cancelled services.
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Edit: And as far as i'm aware the 500MB is more of a "fair usage policy" than a restriction,
Meaning if you do go over (unless it's by alot) then you won't get charged!
But if you go over on a regular basis then i believe it's £5 for every other 500MB.
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Well, a few days ago Vodafone sent me a text that said:
To let you know you're nearly at the end of your monthly data allowance of 500Mb. If you need to use additional data there will be a charge of £5 including VAT per 500Mb, however we wont start charging you until 1 October 2010
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Reading from that, if you go over by 1 megabyte you will be charged an extra £5.
IMO it should state "500Mb of data" on the plan, not unlimited. I agree with other comments above that this isn't enough. A little bit of web browsing every day on the train soon racks it all up.
i remember the day they called me because i told them i will end my contract (my previous one) and i was thinking of making a contract with t mobile (it was the best deal then) and the guy on the phone make me a match at everything except the internet which he called "unlimited internet with a fair usage of 500MB"(also t mobile was giving a free boldon i think). And i did ask what happens next if you use more than that and the answer was "nothing but if you keep doing that for some months you will probably get a call advising you to change plan".
And now vodafone is about to start charging us. Even the 1GB limit is the 1/3 of the 3GB limit T mobile has.
I am very happy with vodafone in customer service but if I need to pay extra 5 pounds for just another 500MB then I wont keep that contract.
We are in 2010 and mobile internet is a must I am not going to stop using my phone because vodafone is going to charge me. My desire replaced my laptop and I am very happy with that vodafone is not going to tell us how much we are allowed to use our phone.
Just do the maths even on a 50 pounds per month contract an extra 5 pounds is 10% so you are allowed to end your contract and keep the Desire. If you want you can make a new contract and get a new desire or anything else you like! or just make a very cheap sim only contract for your desire with a provider that doesn't care if you like using internet facebook youtube etc so much!
I no theres a few threads now but i thought it would be good to have a dedicated thread on UK deals youve had so that everyone can easilly access them and make there minds up
Orange uk
600 mins
Unlim texts
Unlim Data
£38/month
24 months
Phone free on upgrade after 6 phone calls and arguing
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I got:
2000 any network mins
5000 texts
Unlimited Data
Free Handset
24 months
30 pounds a month from Three
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc...fle-40-40-tcb-affordable-1185924#post14152354
Best deal
Plus since when did orange do Unl data. Pretty sure its 750mb
I bought two.
1st:
£539 with Media Link HD from Handtec to use on my current out of contract sim which cost £5 p/m for 100mins, 100 texts, unlimited T-mobile calls & unlimited Data.
Then my second
2000 X Minutes
Unlimited T-Mobile Minutes
Unlimited Texts
Unlimited Data
24 Months @ £36
My sister works in O2 so I'm getting :
HTC One X (White which is being released next week, apparently) - free
Unlimited Minutes
Unlimited Texts
1GB Data + Unlimited free wi-fi
24 months contract
Usually its £36 a month but getting 30% discount to bring it down to ~£25 a month .
ahmadcentral said:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc...fle-40-40-tcb-affordable-1185924#post14152354
Best deal
Plus since when did orange do Unl data. Pretty sure its 750mb
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I had iPhone 35 plan that had unlimited data so they let me keep same plan for a tenner extra so that was great. Over phone you can get up to 2gb on orange aswell. That deal u linked is awesome shame three is terrible where I live
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Plus since when did orange do Unl data. Pretty sure its 750mb
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1GB is the maximum I know of with Orange.
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2000 mins
5000 txt
2000 3 to 3 mins
All you can eat data + tethering
£38 per month from three
Handset free + £109 cashback from quidco
Free delivery today
Now thats a deal
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I didn't get a particular amazing deal looking at some of these..
300 mins,
unlim. texts,
500mb data
£79 for handset.
£27 a month @ o2
I'm planning on returning the handset next week (14 day cooling off period) and ordering through dial a phone instead.
Seems like the Orange Panther is the one for me:
600 mins,
unlim txts,
1gb data,
£59 for the handset and £28.50 a month.
Within the cooling off period I am allowed to use the phone aren't I? I don't want to unwrap the handset and realise I'm unable to return it.
I got:
300 mins
3000 texts
1GB data
All for £28-50 per month on orange and a free media link from phones4u the phone cost was £109.99 but after I placed the order I said I was going to cancel it so they refunded the £109.99... I saw some other guy did the same and they refunded his £109.99 as well, its worth the argument with P4U they always seem to refund the phone cost lol
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My deal with t-mobile s basically the same price plan with free phone also includes micro sim card in the box same number
18month contracts on both
Both same contracts I was on before
1 was £240 a month for calls voicemail and 0845 numbers
Unlimited txts
Unlimited internet
£37 a month
Other contract
1200 mins includes 0845 numbers and voice mail
Unlimited txts
Unlimited internet
£37 a month
These 2 price plans are not available anymore there were discontinued a year ago so nobody can get them anymore
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Those with contracts from T-Mobile, did you get your phones from them directly or via another 3rd party on-line supplier (P4U, CPW, etc). In other words do T-Mobile have the phones in stock today?
I know they are crap in updating their website from 'coming soon' to being available. I know Orange have already updated theirs.
EDIT:
Just thought I'd quickly give them a call. They don't actually have them in stock at the time of calling (or possibly not showing on the systems) but they are able to take orders.
ahmadcentral said:
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/htc...fle-40-40-tcb-affordable-1185924#post14152354
Best deal
Plus since when did orange do Unl data. Pretty sure its 750mb
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Tempted to change my current order to this (I'm on the £29 p/m Ultimate 500 with free headset).
This deal means if unlimited data is a thing of the past in 2 years (or expensive), I'll simply stick on £25 a month which is reasonable.
Seems like I'm going to be waiting ages for Affordable Mobiles to deliver anyway, cancelling and re-ordered will probably make no difference.
Trying to find out when they charge for the handset, if it's right now or on despatch. Dialaphone charged prior to despatch.
I got from Dial a Phone (over the phone)...
Orange Panther 36 (24 Months)
28.50 a month
Free phone
600 mins
Unl texts
1GB Data
Free Medialiank HD
Still waiting for myphone though
Looking at 300 Mins/Unl Texts/500Mb on O2 for £27/month and free phone, from Tesco
Don't need the minutes (have survived on 100 for last 2 years) just need to decide on colour as I can get white form elsewhere at the same cost... choices
Got mine from Orange upgrades for £50 over the phone just now (was hoping to get it for free with the amount of loyalty I've got but hey ho.. )
18 Months
600 mins
Unlimited texts
Unlimited internet
15 Free picture messages (tend to use whats app instead for this)
All for £38.00 per months which includes insurance (£6.00 orange insurance is the best).
Phone comes on Tuesday
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Got mine from Orange upgrades for £50 over the phone just now (was hoping to get it for free with the amount of loyalty I've got but hey ho.. )
18 Months
600 mins
Unlimited texts
Unlimited internet
15 Free picture messages (tend to use whats app instead for this)
All for £38.00 per months which includes insurance (£6.00 orange insurance is the best).
Phone comes on Tuesday
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Nice to see sum1 else gettin the unlim data from orange seems unless u ask or moan u dont get it. I might cancel mine tho as some of the deals in here with free media link hd are awesome
Got mine from phoning Phones 4 U upgrades
Free HTC One X (Grey)
Free Media Link HD box - Standard Pre-Order offer (Worth £80)
£33.50 Orange Panther 24 (Was £41 - Came with £7.50 Bill Credit)
£120 Cash Back (One cheque received up to 42 days after the start of contract)
This equates to £28.50 per month
Contract deal:
900 mins
Unlimited (3000) texts
1GB Mobile Internet
3GB BT Openzone
2 Swappables - Sky Sports TV, Deezer etc. (Each would normally cost £5)
I got a 18 month contract
unlimited texts
900 mins
1gb data
free handset
all for £24.50/month as my bro works at Orange ---w00t
Just got my device activated on Ting and it seems to be working great. Bought a used E4GT off swappa. I filled out Tings request to be in the beta for BYOD and got a message that I could activate it. I followed the links and all went well. I did need to update my profile on the phone, but after that it works. Data and 4G are working and with how I use my phone this is much cheaper.
Nice! Heard this was coming but didn't know they were doing betas!
Might have to really consider this....
I just checked it out.....what a ripoff.
Their default layout when you check out "Plans" is 500Minutes, 4000 text messages, and 1Gb of data. Most people go over 500 megs easy..and with sprints free mobile to mobile, you would have to count that too as part of your total minutes. 4000 text messages seems excessive, even for heavy texters. 1Gb of data seems too low for the average user.......so lets adjust this, shall we??
1000 minutes (minimum)
+ 2000 text messages
+ 2Gb of data
=
$74 per month.
Lets just your a heavy phone user
2000 mins, 2000 text and 2Gb data
=
$94 per month
Snazarian said:
I just checked it out.....what a ripoff.
Their default layout when you check out "Plans" is 500Minutes, 4000 text messages, and 1Gb of data. Most people go over 500 megs easy..and with sprints free mobile to mobile, you would have to count that too as part of your total minutes. 4000 text messages seems excessive, even for heavy texters. 1Gb of data seems too low for the average user.......so lets adjust this, shall we??
1000 minutes (minimum)
+ 2000 text messages
+ 2Gb of data
=
$74 per month.
Lets just your a heavy phone user
2000 mins, 2000 text and 2Gb data
=
$94 per month
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You'd be surprised... Not everyone actually does need that kind of data.
Here's my example. Now keep in mind I don't pay for calls to Japan landlines, which is at least 200 minutes a month.
But look at the difference... that works just fine for me.
Add BYOD and I'm set... can't do that with my current MVNO!
They also credit you on months where you don't use all of it.
On Sprint I average
300 minutes
900 texts
1Gb data.
So I could get away with probably a $65 plan...better than the $80 I'm paying now. Though T-mobile's unlimited pay as you go plan is better and same price virtually.
The thing that is appealing about Ting is that whatever "plan" you pick is just the starter. It's initially tier based and variable depending upon what you use, split out by voice, text, and data. See below:
As you can see, the lowest tier is the "XS" which is $0. You do have to pay a base line $6/mo, plus regulatory fees/taxes, which shouldn't amount to more than $9.
If you start with "Large" across the board, it's $50 (+$6). That sets you for 1000 minutes, 2000 texts, and 1000Mb of data on your account. Now lets say you use only 450 minutes. That put you in the "Medium" tier, which is $9. So, you get credited $9 and then next cycle you're automatically put on the Medium tier.
Where Ting kind of "gets you" is when you cross over into the next tier. If you use 500 minutes, you're billed $9. If you use 501 minutes, it's $18. So, if you're someone who just wants a phone to keep for very low usage, you may get by with $0 in voice/minutes if you don't make any calls or text. But one call or one text and each of those is now $3. So, you probably won't want Ting for an emergency or "seldom use" phone.
Text messages are cheap. But where voice and data are concerned, crossing over a tier gets expensive. So, it would be important to watch your data and minutes as you get close. If you rarely come close to crossing into a higher tier or are just very good about watching it, you could save quite a bit of money compared to your recurring contract plan with a big carrier, like Sprint.
Virgin mobile and boost have better plans then that....
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cas8180 said:
Virgin mobile and boost have better plans then that....
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Possibly... but they don't support BYOD.
The idea, as far as I've heard, is that you'll be able to bring any CDMA device on Sprint's bands and use it, regardless of who it came from. Not sure how that's going to work with previous ESN assignments but supposedly that too has been resolved.
cas8180 said:
Virgin mobile and boost have better plans then that....
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Yeah this one seems expensive. My friends have vigin and only pay $30 a month. I on the other hand. Use about 1500 mins a Month. About 10,000 messages and 10-13gb of data
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Possibly... but they don't support BYOD.
The idea, as far as I've heard, is that you'll be able to bring any CDMA device on Sprint's bands and use it, regardless of who it came from. Not sure how that's going to work with previous ESN assignments but supposedly that too has been resolved.
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Ya I get that. But a lot of people will just flash to these providers. I think the BYOD might be more of a gimmick? I dont know there are better ways to save money and run your own device if you are diligent you can figure them out...
yup
Open Beta
I agree this is not a good deal for high users. But for me with most of my time on wifi and limited phone and text, i get by for about $25 a month.
I also looked into the surcharges. They vary quite a bit by state, but in Michigan it works out to about 10%. Ting will tell you what they will be for you if you put in a request to their help desk.
The beta is now open to all. Seven devices are now supported for BYOD.
If you signup, hit this link to get me some extra credits.
Just so you know, with Ting. you only pay for what you use.
So if you don't use all the minutes, text, or data, you get credited back next month.
So it is way cheaper.
I rarely use data too, i usually use wifi whenever i can (killing 2 birds with 1 stone=battery life and better speeds)
I on average use about less than 100mb monthy because at home, school, church, and target i have wifi