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Has anyone had any problems with this upgrade to Windows Mobile 5 :?:
Depends on what you consider problems. Personally, I've found that my notes and camera buttons do not work. This is common, but does not seem to affect everyone.
There are also some programs that are not compatible, although all of mine work;
Programs:
- Visual IT Tube 2
- MS Voice Command 1.5
- SPB Time (although no screen saver option)
- SPB Diary
- SPB Pocket Plus (v3)
- SPB GPRS Monitor
- Tengo Thumb
- Opera for smart phone
- MS Reader
- Pocket Music
- Avantgo (although the automatic sync'ing doesn't seem to work at the moment - they've stated that they don't support ActiveSync4.1 as it is still in beat)
- Pocket Zen Phone (v5.3)
- Resco Keyboard
Games:
- Flux Challenge
- Free Pong
- Volleyball
The main thing to bear in mind is that if your device is working for you at the moment, leave it alone. If it 'aint broke, don't fix it!
Have a look at buzz net for more info.
DS.
Thanks for the info.
Interesting that you don't consider it worthwhile updating to WM5 unless the wee box stops working, I think thats the way I'll go for the moment
According to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2873
"I was aware of is the T-Mobile MDA Pro (HTC Universal) which is also Bluetooth stereo enabled after the latest ROM update from last week. "
what update is this ? can anyone inform me. Would love a2dp on my universal. will free my magician.
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I think he meant the German ROM?
Hi P3300 owners,
After having my P3300 for about 7 months i'm still satisfied, it's more compact than my previous Eten G500 and is exactly the size of a phone.
I use it mainly as a phone, to take quick notes, calculator, gps. First I planned to use it as mp3 player also, but not too much at a time, to save some battery
I saw there is a P3350 allready with added 3G function,but don't need it for the moment. Glad to see this summer WM6 Crossbow will be available for our device (after it wasn't the case firstly) but our P3300 is award-winning, so it deserves the 'vista' for our pocketpc
Now i'd like to discuss some thoughts about new software / hardware :
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1. ROM
I still have the orginal rom 1.12.0.0 and GSM 02.67.90
is it worth upgrading, what is the best rom at the moment + advantages ?
In past I upgraded roms for my xda2i but now i don't seem to bother
2. GPS
I work with tomtom, satisfied, but could be better.
Free TMC instead of paid tomtom plus gprs services + more maps (Greece,Turkey,Thailand) for travelling is what i want.
I tested route 66 & destinator 6 in past but still looking...
Tried to install IGO 2006 and ViaMichelin but both said 'not a valid win 32 application'. I guess it's because I work with Vista 64, but same error on pc of collegue (XP 32bit).
The new Igo8 looks great in 3D : http://www.i-go.com/en/news/index.php?aid=110
What is your favorite GPS program? Your TMC works fine over radio without issues?
4. FREE GPS PROGRAMS
I guess this won't be as nice like paid programs.
Do you know any free gps tools with maps for travelling countries like greece,turkey,thailand for example ? Tried googlemaps and some other but did't get any images.
5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARE
What are your favorite toolz at the moment ?
For me it's :
- SPB Pocketplus & SPB Backup
- Hitchhiker (still the old 2006 beta, no updates comming
- SkypeLowCpuBeta (free calls when travelling)
In past i tried mobimate world (nice for flight hours updating), Weatherstuff, and RSS News feeds.
6. EXTRA HARDWARE / ACCESSORIES
Checked Ebay for some very cheap usefull accessoires and I found :
- A silicone case + screen protectors
- A Motorola H300 bluetooth headset with 30 hours talktime + 30 days standby due to 1 AAA battery, that's a lot without recharging
- A dual sim adaptor (have 2 simcards, one with free sms after 16hrs+weekend, the other free talktime after 16hrs+weekend talk is cheap
So if you have tips / remarks on these topics, share your thoughts!
Ciao!
Innovator
1. ROM
I have the same ROM. It s stable though so no upgrade needed (unless crossbow of course)
2. GPS
I use MioMap. I had the problem of 'not a valid win 32 application' when running the setup.exe from my pc... then, as suprising as it is, i understood that in fact i had to run the setup.exe from the PPC ! Maybe you should try that too...
3. ???
no 3
4. FREE GPS SOFTWARE
hmm nope i don't have any free one
5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARES
- SPb Diary
-Spb Mobile Shell
-Citytime (as usefull as worldmate, but lighter and faster.
-Spb Brain Evolution (when i'm bored, it s good to train the brain
-Resco Explorer 2006 (it's a MUST. Comes with Resco Registry)
-MioMap 3.2 - GPS software, imho better than tomtom route66 or any other soft. Not sure what are the exact difference between IGo and MioMap, i just know they are almost identical and same manufacturer, but MioMap is stable on my p3300, Igo wasn't...
- PocketStars : If you like watching stars and want to have all the details of what u r looking at... it's the best. (includes gps function to give your exact realtime sky chart at your position!).
-Metro : all bus & metro of thousands of cities in your p3300 good for travellers.
- SKTools : to optimize the P3300 (free back the ram, deletes invalid notifications queues, etc...).
6. EXTRA HARDWARE / ACCESSORIES
no idea yet, just got my HTC for 2 weeks now, but that dual card sim holder u talk about interest me...
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5. UNMISSABLE SOFTWARE
What are your favorite toolz at the moment ?
For me it's :
- SPB Pocketplus & SPB Backup
- Hitchhiker (still the old 2006 beta, no updates comming
- SkypeLowCpuBeta (free calls when travelling)
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Hi, glad to hear that u are satisfied with the P3300. I would like to ask you about skype. I use also the low cpu version (which hasn't been updated for some time now). The problem is that audio is terrible, i can't hear anything useful only a low pitch sound (although sometimes and for a second or two the voice is ok). Text chatting works very well. I believe that maybe is the slow CPU of the P3300 (and there was no improvement with Overclocking)
Have you noticed similar issues while using skype for voice calls?
Thx
Innovator said:
Free TMC instead of paid tomtom plus gprs services + more maps (Greece,Turkey,Thailand) for travelling is what i want.
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There is no way that TMC will ever be possible on the Artemis, for free that is. Yes, I know that some users disagree, after all, when the radio can handle RDS, why cannot it handle TMC?
According to HTC however it is just not possible and I think they should know best.
Having said that, I do think TMC is not that great. It isn't where I live anyway, with lots of delays. TMC will inform me that there is a traffic jam on the A28, as if I didn't know allready, looking at the 300+ cars in front of me.
Thanks for the heads up on Igo 8, that looks pretty cool. Wonder how well it actually functions in practice. Anyone know if it's released to the public yet?
Hi Folks,
I have wondering how to implement some kind of mousing on the TP2 since obviously it does lend itself to mini mini laptop activities. I did find a company called http://www.teksoftco.com which does a driver for bluetooth mice as well as USB optical mice.
Would it be wonderful if there was one of those spongy knobs in the middle of the keyboard for cursor manipulation like on those old IBM laptops.
Any comments, particularly the first bit.
Thanks,
Sam
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
I used to have a little BT mouse with my good old htc universal... great! simply great!! it would be nice to use it again with the TP2, but it's almost impossible to find the driver to download..and btw, would it work with wvga screens, or just regular qvga /vga ones??
@ kork: so little it's easy to lose it without noticing. a bunch of grams more, when I carry at work a bag of 3 4 kg is nothing noticeable
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
double post.... due to system hang
Kork said:
Why would I want to install a mouse to the TP2? It's big enough already and having to drag around a mouse all the time where using the stylus is so much faster and easier? I don't really see the benefits of it....
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If you had a wireless mouse and were using the TP2 for video-out presentation or video viewing duties, it could make life easier. Seems like a pretty niche need though.
There are apparently drivers that let you use the phone as a USB host rather than client, allowing you to hook up mice, keyboards and even external HDs. I'm not sure if anyone has had any success, there's mention of it in the tricks sticky post in this forum.
yep, but someone reported them as not working. not so much discussion about this though too bad, blame on ppc manufacturers who don't consider this function! it's so important when on the move!
@samjolly: thanks a lot mate! do you know if this driver works on TP2, and mostly important with an old "thinkoutside bluetooth travel mouse"? it used to have its own drivers shipped...but it's been 3 or 4 years since i purchased it! tried on omnia and didn't work, argh °_°
PS: I'm a bit scared of trying for first delicate things like drivers without having heard any positive feedback first
forgive me guys, but xda is slooooooooooow and keeps sending 2 copies of every message I post. must be something wrong with it.
SamJolly said:
Hi cyberpunk,
I have jext got this from the tecksoftco site:
Name: BlueInput Driver for Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard
Version: 1.5.RC-4
Release date: November 5, 2008
Supported Platform: Pocket PC with Microsoft Bluetooth Stack / WM5.0 or newer / BT Mouse+Keyboard compatible
Supported Screen Size: SQUARE, SQUARE VGA, QVGA, VGA, WQVGA, WVGA (all)
So it looks positive... I will asks thought. Being from the UK I did a double take on "BT Mouse" thinking that it was sold by British Telecom(BT) but it is for "Bluetooth" - doh....
Sam
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A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
GordonTGopher said:
A note of caution; the TP2 doesn't use the Microsoft stack, unlike many other current HTC devices, that's why there are problems with some devices. I'm not saying it won't work but......
Gordon
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Folks,
This was my response from TeckSoftCo:
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BlueInput is compatible with devices running Windows Mobile (minimum WM5.0) and that have the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack installed.
You can download a trial versin of BlueInput for free, from www.teksoftco.com and see if it runs well.
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So interesting point about TP2 apparently not using the MS BT stack which seems a bit weird.
Sam
thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
cyberpunk627 said:
thanks a lot to both samjolly and gordon for the useful info! I hope we'll be able to solve this mistery
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dead thread, i see, but to answer last post, both the bluetooth and usb possibilities are there now on the teksoft site. looks like 10 euro for the usb hid driver, 15 for the broadcom bluetooth driver.
CobaltController
Use your Sony Playstation 3 Controller (Sixaxis/Dual Shock 3) or Nintendo Wii Remote (Wiimote) as a Bluetooth Game Controller on your Windows Phone.
It's perfect for game system emulators.
Play PlaystationOne games with FpseCE, Super Nintendo games (and more) with MorphGear (HD2 version), Nintendo, Genesis, GameBoy, GameGear games (and more) with SmartGear - There are many other emulators out there and this program/driver will work for anything that accepts keyboard input.
Compatibility
Post your results and I will update this list
Code:
DEVICE PS3 Wii Confirmed By
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Acer beTouch E200 ? Yes pmprog
Acer Neotouch S200 Yes Yes Fenrir84 (PS3) / Snowball2010 (Wii)
HTC HD2 Yes Yes Cobaltikus
HTC Touch Diamond Yes No koert17 (PS3) / nightly_shadow (Wii)
HTC Touch HD (Blackstone) Yes Yes RDilus
HTC Touch Pro Yes No Cobaltikus
HTC Touch Pro2 Yes Yes Cobaltikus
HTC Touch2 Mega Yes ? RipNWO
HTC Vogue No No Mycle78
HTC Wizard No ? shorty66
LG Expo Yes Yes dalb3 (PS3) / trueg (Wii)
Samsung SCH-i730 No No Cobaltikus
Samsung i780 Yes ? ShadowswordPL
Samsung SCH-i830 No No Cobaltikus
Samsung Omnia I900 Yes No Manny-77
Samsung Omnia II i8000 Yes No cyber-junkie
Sony Xperia Yes No sashapont (PS3) / stratis10 (Wii)
Toshiba TG01 No No Cobaltikus
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Your Device ? ? You
You Tube Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH_NBKtj0R8 (Thanks i900frenchaddict)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dH9J1y0G-8 (Thanks ahmedsaid)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo-_nMmYq1Y (Thanks dijay_94)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauZQWYZxmQ (Thanks ShadowswordPL)
Prerequisites:
PS3 Controller
A compatible Windows Mobile device. Check the Compatibility list. Is your device not listed? Try out CobaltController and post your results; I'll update this post.
A PS3 Controller (I don't know if non-Sony 3rd party controllers work - maybe they do, maybe they don't).
A desktop or laptop computer with a USB port to set the controller's master address.
Linux - Use sixpair - directions in this thread somewhere, search for "Ubuntu"
Windows - Use Motion in Joy, but please note that Motion in Joy uses a different MAC format (little endian vs big endian) so for example, when I run CobaltController on my Touch Pro2 it displays "BT ADDR: 00:23:76:70:6B:4D" so I enter it into Motion in Joy as 4d.6b.70.76.23.00
Wii Controller
A compatible Windows Mobile device. Check the Compatibility list. Is your device not listed? Try out CobaltController and post your results; I'll update this post. Devices with the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack can't use the Wiimote yet.
A Wii Controller.
XBOX 360 Controller
Not Going To Happen
In order to get the XBOX 360 controller to work in windows you need to purchase a wireless receiver - it doesn't use bluetooth. It needs additional hardware. So if a full desktop Windows PC can't even do it without additional hardware, I seriously doubt it will ever work for our phones. Some company could come up with an xbox 360 wireless receiver for Windows Mobile, but again, very doubtful. And since I don't even have an XBOX of any kind, I know I'm not going to be motivated enough to even try.
Initial One Time Setup for PS3 Controllers:
Setting the PS3 controller's master address to your phone's bluetooth mac address via Windows:
Download and install Motion in Joy.
Run DS3 Tool, installed in the previous step.
Click the "About" tab in DS3 Tool to see the version. If DS3 Tool is less than 0.5.0003 you will need to update.
Connect your PS3 Controller to your computer via the USB cable and wait while Windows recognizes the new device.
Click on the "BluetoothPair" tab.
In the DUALSHOCK 3 drop down list select your controller. If it says "Can't find connected(USB) Playstat":
Click "Driver Manager" directly above the drop down list
Click "Load" and wait for it to finish
Return to the "BluetoothPair" tab
Run CobaltController on your Windows Mobile device to get its BT address.
Enter that BT address into the text box directly above the DUALSHOCK 3 drop down list. Note that Motion in Joy uses a different MAC format (little endian vs big endian) so for example, a bluetooth address of "00:23:76:70:6B:4D" is entered it into Motion in Joy as "4d.6b.70.76.23.00"
Click the radio button next to this textbox to make sure that it uses the one you entered and not the one above it which is to connect your controller to your PC
Click "Pair Now"
If all went well your controller is now configured to talk to your Windows Mobile device. Go to the "Quick Start" tab and click "Disconnect".
Unplug your PS3 Controller.
As long as you don't pair your controller with any other device (like your PS3) then you never have to do this again. If you do pair the controller with a another device and wish to re-pair it with your phone again, repeat the above steps.
Widcomm Stack Specifics:
Turn on bluetooth and set it to discoverable. Thanks to ryotgz, skilty, and gorelshv for this information. I believe it is only required the first time you use CobaltController. Once you have successfully connected, BT does not have to be in discoverable mode any longer so you can change it back to invisible to save battery life.
Make sure that the checkbox is not checked where it says "Allow only devices listed in 'My Devices' to connect".
If you have never tried to connect the PS3 controller to your phone before (or at least not since the last hard reset or rom flash) it will fail to connect at first and you'll get a bunch of pop ups with PLAYSTATION(R)3 Controller shown in bold asking for the pin. Keep tapping cancel as it pops up and wait for everything to stop trying to connect. After all that, try again and it should connect just fine and should always connect right away in the future without the pin prompts. There is no pin (that I know of at least) I'm bypassing security on both the PS3 and Wii connections (even though we do know the pin for the Wiimote is the host's mac backwards.)
Microsoft Stack Specifics:
TURN OFF BLUETOOTH The MS stack does not like the PS3 controller and will NOT pair with it. I ended up writing a modified version of this stack to get around this problem, but it will conflict with the real MS stack so they can't both be on at the same time.
Your phone will reboot when you disconnect the controller.
PS3 Controller Specifics:
Press the PS button to connect and then later to disconnect
Wii Controller Specifics:
Press the red Sync button to connect. Hold down the Power button to disconnect.
Common:
All 4 LEDs should flash a few times and then only the player one LED should remain lit showing it connected.
The driver stops running after you disconnect to save battery life. Run it again to reconnect. It's in Start Menu\Programs\Games
Registry Values are stored in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cobaltikus\CobaltController
Currently only 1 controller can be active at a time but I am exploring the ability to add more.
Once you are connected you can tap Menu > Exit to close the configuration program and your controller will remain connected, and the driver will continue to run until your controller is disconnected.
To Do: (not necessarily in this order)
Get Wiimote working on devices with the Microsoft Bluetooth stack
Figure out why this doesn't work on the TG01 and HTC Vogue and fix it
2 player support
Battery meter
Integrate LeSScro graphics
Clean up Microsoft stack code to eliminate the need to reboot
Add support for non-touch-screen devices
Attachments
CobaltController.vX.X.cab = Installs to \Program Files\CobaltController\ and a shortcut goes to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Games
NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab = Although the CobaltController driver is written in native C++, the UI is written in .Net 3.5, therefore you will need to have .NetCF 3.5 installed on your device to run the UI. You might already have this by default so try without this first, and come back if you get an error message about needing it.
NETCFv35.Messages.EN.wm.cab = Provides more details when .Net errors occur with any program written in .Net 3.5. This is optional and only needed if a .Net error occurs and you wish to see more details about that error.
Change Log
v0.7
Sorry - no actual driver enhancements yet - just bug fixes
IMPORTANT - Different Default Buttons - you may need to remap in your emulator settings
Updated instructions (Menu > Instructions)
Menu reorganized, some new menu items exist
More Bluetooth "stuff" working in the UI
UI Settings Bug Fixes (values not sticking etc)
v0.6
ANALOG STICKS WORKING!
Menu reorganized, some new menu items exist
More Bluetooth "stuff" in the UI - Mainly for devices with the M$ stack
Some other tweaks and changes but these are all the important ones.
v0.5
New Icon
UI Uses .Net 3.5, (driver is still c++)
Option to restore default keycodes
Bluetooth Address shown on screen so you don't have to search for it
229 fix - it could cause you to not like how the SIP works in other programs but you can always restore, so no worries.
I might have forgotten about another change or two but these are all the important ones.
v0.4
Updated Instructions (Menu > Help > Instructions > [PS3|Wii])
Added Menu > Help > About to verify version
Buttons - There are editable registry values to modify the button mappings - below are the defaults
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Sixaxis Button Keyboard Equivalent
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SELECT A
LEFTCLICK B
RIGHTCLICK C
START Enter
UP Up
RIGHT Right
DOWN Down
LEFT Left
L2 D
R2 E
L1 F
R1 G
TRIANGLE Space
CIRCLE O
X X
SQUARE Backspace
These are all the digital buttons - I will eventually implement the left analog stick to send Up, Right, Down, and Left. Not yet sure what to do with the right stick... window scrolling maybe?
dece. how did u manage to get the drifvers for hid support?
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dece. how did u manage to get the drifvers for hid support?
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I didn't
I used Visual Studio 2008 + Windows Mobile 6 SDK + Widcomm SDK
I'm using L2CAP
Although the HID GUID is not defined, you can hard code the values for it and vwahlah - it works!
It runs great on my Sprint Touch Pro2 and also the HTC HD2 but should work for any Windows Mobile device with a Widcomm Bluetooth stack - again though I fully plan to tackle the M$ stack as well and also add support for the wiimote.
wow can't wait for the wii remote but even ps3 is best thing to happen to wm thanks and i look forward to testing this
Version 0.1 Available NOW!!!
v0.2 will have M$ stack support - working on it now
Request:
That would be really cool if someone would write a nice app to set the sixaxis master bluetooth address that doesn't require a pc with bluetooth and other apps. That would make my app even better - cuz I know the setup really sucks - but believe me it is worth it, especially if your phone also has TV Out.
Have you gotten it to work with Fpsece?
I've been lurking on the other BT controller thread and I must say I was very anxious to see what you guys could pull off! Great, great work!!!
same here as above, lurking in the BT Controller thread (and even in the request thread for PS3 on PPC)
where the **** is the donation address I said I had $5 for a working PS3 and while I havent had the chance to test it yet I want to ****ing donate as soon as I have (yes the word **** was necessary to use, it conveys emotion and as is said, words are only as powerful as you make them)
It would be awsome if this could trigger some devs to make it vice versa, so that you can use your phone to control media stuff on the ps3
nice one !
can't wait to get back home to try this !!!!!!
THX !!!!!
DracoDrake said:
It would be awsome if this could trigger some devs to make it vice versa, so that you can use your phone to control media stuff on the ps3
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I was looking into that a little bit and it seems completely possible - it's just a matter of devoting the time. If no one else does it first I'll probably end up doing it eventually - after this program grows more
My main goal right now as far as this is concerned is to get it working on all windows mobile phones.
good job, lets hope we can get it working with FPSECE, if thats the case i am willing to donate £5. you better get your paypal address sorted!
thanks
hi sounds nice. i will be real happy if it worked with wiimote
Awesome man! Looking forward to trying this on my HD2!
DracoDrake said:
It would be awsome if this could trigger some devs to make it vice versa, so that you can use your phone to control media stuff on the ps3
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I agree. I use my PS2 to watch a lot of movies and it would be great if I could use my phone as the remote control instead of using the standard controller.
How about Morphgear?
I'm all for OSS apps so this seems only natural
Morphgear is very similar with Smartgear with the difference of being free and open for development (you can get the sources at SourceForge). And it surely could use a boost and more attention.
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good job, lets hope we can get it working with FPSECE, if thats the case i am willing to donate £5. you better get your paypal address sorted!
thanks
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I don't see why it wouldn't work with FPSECE - it works with anything that accepts keyboard input - you can even text with it so long as you don't need more letters than A, B, C, D, E, F, G, O, and X, maybe I should use letters like WTFLMAO instead...
I put a link to donate in the first post http://www.cobaltikus.com
If you donate - that would be awesome - I've never received any donations before.