Hi all!
Every body actually knows about the trinity gpsone activate.
Now, the guys here succeeded to port the driver & put it in a cab!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294113
I understood that the radio should support it, is there any chance to do that?
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one more thing
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We have 2 external output for antenna in the side of the universal device. maybe it should fit & connect anyhow to the gpsone chip?
Any ideas?
Gil
Only the new Qualcom chipset supports GPS; Trinity, Hermes and Breeze have this chipset. Unfortunately Universal's chipset does not have any GPS ability (at least this would be a big surprise to me). Too bad, the Universal is still my favourite PPC.
Only the new Qualcomm chipset supports GPS; Trinity, Hermes and Breeze have this chipset. Unfortunately Universal's chipset does not have any GPS ability (at least this would be a big surprise to me). Too bad, the Universal is still my favourite PPC.
TRJS said:
... Unfortunately Universal's chipset does not have any GPS ability (at least this would be a big surprise to me). Too bad, the Universal is still my favourite PPC.
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Universal's radio has MGP6200 chip. This is so-called "assisted-GPS". But we need to patch radio to turn it on. And I don;t think that it would be well-working.
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Universal's radio has MGP6200 chip. This is so-called "assisted-GPS". But we need to patch radio to turn it on. And I don;t think that it would be well-working.
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Man... O2 sold me this phone on the understanding that it would support Gps... they are soooooooooooo crap! Mind you, guess I should have researched it myself Still love the Exec though!
well i belive if it can be done...it will be done,,,,specially with the guys who specialise in reversing....maybe someone will have a look at the new rom release for trinity???? (is it) that activates gps
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Universal's radio has MGP6200 chip. This is so-called "assisted-GPS". But we need to patch radio to turn it on. And I don;t think that it would be well-working.
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Thanks for enlightening me! That's really interesting... What is the exact state of knowledge? After a quick look at the "Internal TyTn Herm 200 Pictures Inc. Chip Sets"-thread in the Hermes forum I saw cr2 stated that the Universal lacks the GPS RF amplifier, but also - to quote him - "AFAIK, the radio on the HTC Universal includes the GPS-related code". That was at the beginning of the whole Hermes-GPS-research, so with the state of knowledge of today, are there any new conclusions regarding Universal?
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Hi ppl just wondering with all the more smarter ppl than me here.I am looking to buy a GPS reciever for my BlueAngel.
I am looking at this one.
HP iPAQ Bluetooth GPS Receiver
[FA256A]
http://www.ow.com.au/shop/product_info.php/products_id/311?osCsid=831...e5a91629d63adc5798ac91a06
at first glance i would say no cause its for a iPAQ, but it is bluetoth and a lot of different BT stuff work with BA's, So any help info ppl could give me would be great....
BTW great site love it.
What GPS....
The GPS branded as HP bla bla is an obsolete type with old SiRF II. chipset. It is slow and not very sensitive at all.
Better obtain http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=127067 it is more expensive (only a little bit) but much more reliable, stable, sensitive etc. I am using this GPS with my BlueAngel flawlessly.
Or try one of these http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=130593 it works great with the devices I use incl the BA. - Mike
Hi have the Globalsat BT 338(bluetooth) - it's very small, last for ages on the battery and very sensitive (Sirf III).
Probably the best around, maybe not the cheapest but definitely worth it.
ok guys thanx for your help.
Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!
The extensive thread you refer to has most of the answers to your questions, I think, on the penultimate page. The outfit who unlocked the phone said it wasn't an Artemis model (the United Kingdom MDAIII enquired about and similar to the German/Austrian I believe) but a Hero and it didn't have wireless lan.
They also said the Artemis and Hero looked cosmetically identical but were different inside...
I must admit that I find it strange that the Dutch went for the Artemis model and the others the Hero. You would have thought that the entire European operation would have made a bulk purchase.
well i have still no information on the USB?
Mtheory said:
Hello to All
I have seen many people search for the answer to the question I have, does our MDA CIII have WLAN or not?
There is an extensive thread on that topic, with no real conclusion, so i thought i open a new one, and throw some new ideas and questions into the room.
First of all:
I own a Arte110 i was one of the first ones to get it in Austria, i bought it right when it hit T-mobile stores on the 02.11, back then the Austrian webpage advertised it has WLAN, the German webpage never claimed that, so when i was standing in the store i asked once more, and the guy said no WLAN, in that moment i didnt think much, since the device was very nice, and there was no alternative for me, since my other phones was stollen a couple of days before, and i was in a hurry to get a new mobile.
Well now i do miss WLAN, and i am trying everything to get to it
I checked the dutch page yesterday, it still says WLAN, can it be that T-mobile doesnt supply some of its biggest markets (German, Austria) without WLAN, but it does so in the Dutch market. It doesnt even make sense to buy two different pieces of HArdware when they order in masses.
SO how come we dont get WLAN and they do! And seemingly some dutch friends have confirmed their devices have WLAN. I am planing to confront T-mobile Austria on that and see what they say, did any one do that already?
Further i tried talking up HTC, but they didnt help much, told me to go talk to t-mobile.
Now a question to the technical guys around, being an Electronic Engineer myself, i am very interested in playing around to get this WLAN mystery solved, so i am in the search of following things:
a. Any one take one of these things appart?
b. Any way to get our hands on infromation concearing wireing, chipsets, and the inside of the device? I found this italian website which had a block diagram of the new HTC 4000-something model, it would be nice to have something like that for our MDA, would solve many questions.
c. What type of USB does our device have, is it client only or does it also support host? if so we would work out an external solution! That would be great if it would support host function, specialy for all other kind of applications.
d. Any idea where we could get such info from
Thanks to all
And dont give up until we have a prove that the Hardware for WLAN is missing in our devices!
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Hehe, hello
I'm from austria too and did already much research but gave it up. There is some kind of proof that wifi is not built in. Great to see some support from austria . I suggest you ment that thread didn't you?
greets from vienna
Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks
Mtheory said:
Hi
Nice to see your replies. But i still havent seen any answer to my most important question:
IS THE USB ON THE MDAC III a full USB OR ONLY CLIENT? i have not seen an answer in any of the forums, thanks
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Afaik it's client only... though I'm not completely sure.
We should really find out, cuz if its a full functioning USB, one could try getting a WLAN to work on it externally.
I must say i still have hopes of having the hardware inside...these dutch people, why do they get WLAN? i dont understand. They should help us out with a ROM...it would be redicoulus if T-mobile only supplied them with WLAN (no offense i like holland, but still this gets me mad)
I will contact T-mobile tomorrow and have a word with them!
If the USB is only a client, how is hte antenna recognized via USB?
I don't think, that the antenna has to be recognized as a "Device"... It is just a cable, that is connected to the right Pins in the USB Connector. A normal FM Radio surely does not recognize the Antenna as a device, almost any cable can do the job if connected to the Antenne Input of the Radio....At least i'd say
ok explanation taken...i was hoping for a bit more hightec...but that goes too...(and is absolutly right).
So no one around her believes that the USB could also be a host?
The Omap850 can handle usb on-the-go. See here: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...lateId=6123&navigationId=12000&contentId=4679
German USB-On-The-GO Description (german): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/23696
We can also see that wlan a/b/g is on chip but wth is wiLink?! or mWLAN.
greets
THIS IS great, thanks...I was looking for a block diagramm...now lets look what the chip can do...
Thanks
Ok i figured what the WiLink is, and its sounds really good for us, since it seems to be part of the MDAC III architecture:
"WiLink™ 5.0 platform is the industry's first solution that integrates mobile WLAN (mWLAN), Bluetooth® and FM stereo audio all in a space-saving platform for mobile phones."
Sounds like the functionality of our MDAC III, only that Austria/German/UK doesnt have the GOD DAMN WLAN activated (i hate you dutch guys... )
SO now following question, if the WLAN is intergrated on the OMAP, it cannot be removed by HW...but only be deactivated via firmware. The question is now, does the OMAP need some co-processor to make use of WLAN, or only an antenna, now if it needs an antenna, then it could well be that Tmobile removed this Antenna!
I will do further technical research on this
it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...
Hmm, you can see that that WiLink/mWLAN stuff is not on chip. It's some external circuit which possibly does not exist on our mdac3. Though... proove me wrong and we are best friends
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it does seem to miss integrated WLAN: "54-Mbps WLAN interface" i think when they talk of interfaces, the only mean it supports some WLAN chip to work with it...
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Ahm, yes... I was 2 minutes too late... I btw already installed the wifi-driver from a dutch mdac3 and it didn't work. It is still possible that i did something wrong when doing this.
We need a Dutch ROM
I tried searching for this, but unfortunately, GPS doesn't meet the requirement in word size and thus it kept returning no results. But list what bluetooth GPS you have and what it cost you. Also give a mini review of whether it was worth it or not. I'm trying to find a good (read: also CHEAP) one for myself. I'd rather have a phone with a built-in GPS but I already have a Tmobile Wing and I'm not willing to part with it, unless I find a GREAT deal on a kaiser or other GPS enabled GSM PPC AND I can get someone to buy my existing Wing. (Which might not be as hard as it sounds where I work.)
Thanks for any input you guys can provide.
BuyGPSNow and Semsons both offer a wide variety of GPS solutions (both hardware & software). As a general rule, pretty much any BT GPS using the Sirf III chipset will more than meet your needs -- this chipset does well with low signal strength (you can even get signal indoors in many cases), and it's easy on the battery. Most BT GPS receivers are made in Taiwan, and assuming the same chipset, are largely identical internally, with the only significant differences being the case & battery.
I haven't got one but the 'Keychain GPS Receiver' seems like a good idea - small and fairly cheap.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=3687&t_mode=des
Austin.
I just bought this for my 8525
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190171070107&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009
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I haven't got one but the 'Keychain GPS Receiver' seems like a good idea - small and fairly cheap.
http://www.proporta.com/F02/PPF02P05.php?t_id=3687&t_mode=des
Austin.
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I think this one is a better value:
http://www.semsons.com/sysmblgpssii.html
I-Blue747
I got the I-Blue747 very good and cheap mouse:
http://www.transystem.com.tw/p-gps-iblue747.htm#
Greetings Pudl
Not revive an old thread, but what's the best paid GPS software? The best Freeware GPS software?
So, Im just lurking around with the file explorerer on my DHD and then I found a file named fw_bcm4329.bin in the /vendor/firmware folder, and I thought that maybe this means we have the same chip as on HD2 that got FM transmitter capabilities? (Broadcom BCM4329)
The chip can do it but the software doesn't exist.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD.
All the snapdragon chipsets come with a fm transmitter/recever
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
So, how do we activate it?
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So, how do we activate it?
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You don't (for now).
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
maaarius said:
So, how do we activate it?
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If there was any form of public datasheet for it, we could, but it seems Broadcom is not doing that. Probably need to ask them, and sign some NDA (and work for a major mobile phone maker)
But, have'nt someone managed to activate the FM transmitter on HD2? It uses the same Broadcom chip as DHD.
Anyways, I will try to send a mail to Broadcom and ask for the datasheet
maaarius said:
But, have'nt someone managed to activate the FM transmitter on HD2? It uses the same Broadcom chip as DHD.
Anyways, I will try to send a mail to Broadcom and ask for the datasheet
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Windows Mobile is based on Windows CE, i dare say the drivers for simlar broadcom chips already existed for that enviroment
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Anyways, I will try to send a mail to Broadcom and ask for the datasheet
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Good luck with that. I was an HD2 user and was waiting for a transmitter software but currently it hasn't moved a single bit. I think I saw someone saying that they tried contacting them but they refused.
Have now sendt an e-mail, and im awaiting the answer. Probably takes som hours because of the time difference between Norway and the U.S of A
Any updates on this? I'd love to have the FM Transmitter
I always thought XDA-Devs could achive anything after my very long time using Windows Mobile
It would indeed be great to get access to this FM transmitter !
Any news?
Does some people are working on it?
What can we do to help?
Is there any news of the driver desi FM Transmitter for HD?
Sorry for the translation.
Amazing find! Would be excellent if we could use it.
But no news...Too bad...
As we′ve lately discussed the question if HR has got a built-in wifi-device similar to BA I'm starting this thread in close connection to D-Two's Android for Blue Angel-Thread. Hoping to have some Harrier at hand pretty soon, built-in parts will be listed.
Right from the start my thanks go to GnatGoSplat!
:highfive:
I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.
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I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.
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Can you say which GPS chip?
EDIT: ok i think this chip is the real different!!
datasheet this chip is for GPS and CDMA...
I haven't taken it apart to see the chip, but yes, I think it does have an MSM5500 inside from what I could find on Google, and that chip does have the GPS and CDMA included so I'm sure that must be it.
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I haven't taken it apart to see the chip, but yes, I think it does have an MSM5500 inside from what I could find on Google, and that chip does have the GPS and CDMA included so I'm sure that must be it.
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ok, so we need for the harrier a linux driver for the chip and the harrier is fully work :victory:
Does Linux/Android treat the MSM5500 like a modem? I have seen references to Linux drivers for USB modems that use the MSM5500 chip.
Like this: http://www.ka9q.net/5220.html
Although I don't know anything about Linux so I don't know if any info there is useful.
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Does Linux/Android treat the MSM5500 like a modem? I have seen references to Linux drivers for USB modems that use the MSM5500 chip.
Like this: http://www.ka9q.net/5220.html
Although I don't know anything about Linux so I don't know if any info there is useful.
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that is a good start for phone stuff :good:
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ok, so we need for the harrier a linux driver for the chip and the harrier is fully work :victory:
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So at this point we just need to figure out the gpios that power the modem, and figure out what the interface is...serial,usb, or dpram? i didn't look at that datasheet but does it show that?
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I saw in your other thread about adding an external bluetooth into a BA. That's yet another difference, Harrier has built-in GPS.
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And Harrier has its backup-battery where BA has its wifi-antenna.
Just today got some harriers, maybe a scan of an unshielded mainboard will be helpful to you.
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And Harrier has its backup-battery where BA has its wifi-antenna.
Just today got some harriers, maybe a scan of an unshielded mainboard will be helpful to you.
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O.K.- scanning had been a stupid idea- those modern machines don't give a sharp&deep enough pic.
Now made several photos of unshielded BA & Harrier mainboard. Will upload tomorrow.
For first two pics, didn't have good light yesterday evening.
Interesting: Harriers' GPS-antenna is placed where BA has bluetooth; harriers' bluetooth is next to IR.
The area under black foil is for simcard-holder.
Flashlight of harrier can't be built in BA, has got two spiral contacts on motherboard.
The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?
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The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?
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Have you test the bluetooth in android?
I haven't tried it, but I will make note to try it next time.
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The board layout is surprisingly different for looking so similar on the outside.
Are any parts the same and interchangeable? LCD maybe?
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Switched Display of HA and BA, worked on both devices. As there are three different screens, madcap me luckily took the right one at first attempt
I won't have time before mid next week to provide better pics, but if anyone wants to know something about print on some part, take my pic, mark the part and send it to me- i'll take a look. Hope to make annotated pics soon...
O.K., here first three pics from one side:
B-44 said:
Switched Display of HA and BA, worked on both devices. As there are three different screens, madcap me luckily took the right one at first attempt
I won't have time before mid next week to provide better pics, but if anyone wants to know something about print on some part, take my pic, mark the part and send it to me- i'll take a look. Hope to make annotated pics soon...
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Can you make a better pic from Qualcomm chip? Is the camera the same from blueangel?
...and now three from ther other:
d-two said:
Can you make a better pic from Qualcomm chip? Is the camera the same from blueangel?
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Boy, you're too fast
Will check both today afternoon and post tomorrow. If pic doesnt work, i'll write it down.
(I know, these pics are quick'n'dirty, but as i wrote- it's a question of time. Will improve asap.)
Qualcomm... my EF82 also runs with it:fingers-crossed:
P.S.: Just found these three pics. But QC-chip is hard to read.
At the cam you see top right two brass squares- are the contacts of flashlight conjuncting to the spiral ones on the mainboard.
Will compare BA and HA cam, and IF they should be different mount HA cam in BA to test if it works.
P.P.S.: Will check BOTH Qualcomm-chips.
If you download my pic HAV3 (third in post#14) and turn it 90° left you can pretty good read it.
Small QC-chip:
PM 1000
QUALCOMM
46A0VCT
FF
Large QC-chip:
QUALCOMM
MSM 5500
CP90-V2400-13
QG2M0
QG4H8
0428004H800 R
Can please test this on Harrier...
start Mtty select USB and type: (don't copy and paste!!!)
Code:
password |40r0~0y~~5~0000
it looks it is static?!
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Is the camera the same from blueangel?
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Both devices as it seems got same camera.
on either flexconnector is printed
ADCM-2650-6501
Harrier /083
Blue Angel/007.
The groundboard is marked
HA /043803
MAC 016
BA /050303
MAC 013.