Q's before I upgrade. - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading

First of all, is WM6 worth it? I'm fine with WM 5.0 it's just a little slow...
Is Pocket IE in WM 6 better?
Does the device seem snappier in WM 6?
I'm thinking of using Hemlie's ROM. What do I need to know before upgrading? What doesn't work?
Would you reccomend upgrading to WM 6? If not, whats the "Best" WM 5 ROM?
Thanks, Mitch.

Windowsrookie said:
First of all, is WM6 worth it? I'm fine with WM 5.0 it's just a little slow...
Is Pocket IE in WM 6 better?
Does the device seem snappier in WM 6?
I'm thinking of using Hemlie's ROM. What do I need to know before upgrading? What doesn't work?
Would you reccomend upgrading to WM 6? If not, whats the "Best" WM 5 ROM?
Thanks, Mitch.
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Hi,
if you're already planning on using one of the available roms (in this case Helmi's) you could ask in its thread your questions. Also you'll find there what's working and what's not....
Generally speaking the device seems to perform better under xbow than WM5 but there're some points where some work is needed....so please read all the open threads about WM6.

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Flashing back to wm5?

How would I go about flashing my phone back to wm5? Or should I? I never really used wm5 and went straight to wm6. What do you guys think is more buggy? I have a feeling wm6 is or maybe I just need to reinstall it. It nothing specific just random bugs like sometimes the screen light wont turn off, memory running out, and just other things that happen. So should i flash to wm5 or reflash wm6 in hopes of having it fix issues.
Stay with WM6. It rocks. There are fixes for just about everything, you just have to look around a little.
Sounds to me like you hard a bad install and something went wrong. I would re-install the WM6 ROM from TMO here --> http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
After you install (W/O memory card installed) it go here --->http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1160147
Hope this helps.
So what exactly does having the memory card out do when your installing? Ill do a reinstall when I get home.
Not sure but I've read that many people choose to do a clean install without anything extra like storage cards installed. Something about an endless reboot loop. There's a big thread about in on HOFO.
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
oldsap said:
May i ask what the Pros and Cons for both WM5 and WM6 ROMS are?
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you're kidding right?
lafester said:
you're kidding right?
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hahaha no sir. I have just ordered my DASH and while reading through the threads, ive seen lots of bugs, etc when WM6 ROM is used.
By pros and cons, i meant the essential performance of the unit when using WM5 or WM6, like battery life, speed, etc
people freak out when they upgrade and think everything is going to be the same as wm5 only better. there are very few real bugs in wm6 and those have all been fixed here.
there are still some apps that don't work but there's nothing we can do about that. i'm sure the devs will update their products soon.
speed is slightly faster but everything else is about the same performance wise. i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
all the other enhancements make it a no brainer to upgrade especially if you are just getting it and haven't loaded it up with apps and tweaks already.
thank you lafester for the quick reply
I'm staying with WM5 for the simple fact that I still have "voice tags" !!
does anyone knows if there exist a Widcom stack to hack over the MS stack ??? simply for more BT profiles ??? I also own the Axim X51V and having the Widcom stack rules !!! MS BT stack is the pit !!!
lafester said:
i actually have a little more memory with wm6 then i did with wm5 but programs still leak so its best to keep them closed.
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???
comparing the 2 ROMs ( HTC WM5 for S620 & WM6 T-mobile )
HTC S620 = 23+ MB
T-Mobile = 19 + MB
this is after a fresh ROM upgrade/downgrade ... from rogers S621.
how did you get more ????
I do agreed however ... that WM6 is a little zippier
maybe because i have the dash so we are comparing different starting roms.
ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
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ive read somewhere that there is a built in IM for yahoo,etc in WM5 ROM. If this is true, is it also available in WM6 ROM?
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yep but it doesn't connect over wifi, I think it might be designed to only use GPRS so t-mobile can make revenue from it.
Anyone know how to manually remove all the t-mobile programs from the dash? Mine is only sim unlocked but not cid so I can't install the HTC S620 rom.
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
iba12345 said:
how do you flash back to wm5 i have problems with wm6
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the same way you would with WM6 ... only this time use the HTC S620 WM5 ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288230
this is kinda OT here but may i ask which WM5 ROM is the best with regards to speed, ease of use, memory? DopodAsia/T-Mo/HTC?

wm 6.1 on cavalier

Hi all!
I've seen many threads about installing wm 6.1 on different devices.
Had anybody tried it with cavalier?
It seems that Excalibur version of wm 6.1 should be compatible with Cavalier.
Anybody has an experience before I start to rape my own device?
Thanks a lot!
pipipka said:
Hi all!
I've seen many threads about installing wm 6.1 on different devices.
Had anybody tried it with cavalier?
It seems that Excalibur version of wm 6.1 should be compatible with Cavalier.
Anybody has an experience before I start to rape my own device?
Thanks a lot!
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If you try Excalibur WM6.1, you'll end up with an expensive brick!
Cheers
This is really sad the the Cavalier is the better device than the Excalibur, yet we have no 6.1 Rom. I know there are a million more dashes out there, but how hard would it be for someone to move the 6.1 Rom on the Excalibur board over to the Cavalier?
We want WM6.1
Come on all the great ROM developers- lets get WM6.1 for this great device.Any help much appreciated.
Yes please! I'd love to see WM6.1 on my S630.
WM6.1
Still nothing eh? Come on you guys- even Vox has WM6.1 on it now......
loser said:
Still nothing eh? Come on you guys- even Vox has WM6.1 on it now......
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First of all, to get WM6.1 on our Cavaliers we need to buypass CID lock, which for the moment we can't do as there's no sspl or whatever for Cavalier!
Second, after the first part is done, we need to port WM6.1 to Cavalier which is not easy so basicly we need a developer who has in its possession a HTC Cavalier!
Cheers
Wow, i can't believe there's not even a hint of development yet. There's got to be some good developer out there who can cook a 6.1 rom for us!
Current problem is CID unlock.only SuperCID can flashing!!

WM6 vs WM5 performance comparison

Is the original WM6 for Artemis more responsive in general use than the WM5 version? I'm also interested if the cooked ROM's (Touch 4.02 for example) have any speed advantages when running TomTom. In my WM5 TomTom is quite slow. Can anyone comment on the performance of TomTom using different ROM's? Is there any visual difference?
About battery life, I've read a lot about some experiencing power drain but others getting even better battery performance with the same ROM. Is it even possible to say whether WM6 increased battery life vs WM5 or not? Please post your experiences, as I am trying to decide to upgrade or not to, because it is a small risk aswell.
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
totally agree and i suggest go forward to WM 6.1
WM5 is only history
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
Advantages ( amongst others) of WM6:
- no data loss when out-off battery !!!!
- tomtom and other apps run more smoothly/quickly (subjectively)
The battery-drain for sure is a concerning matter, due to being based on gsm polling problems on certaain machines/radio versions!
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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wm5 is faster in my opinion that wm6 and wm6 totally kills your battery time which is a big nusience..
also wm6 seems more complicated with the simple phone functions....
I have tried some of the cooked rom's and have so many problem with the screen auto rolling when I don't want it to and sometimes I will click on "ok" and it doesn't seem to register for 3-4 seconds....
in general for phone and email use I am going back to wm5 to get back the battery time and general usability of the phone itself...
with wm5 I hardley ever ran out of battery time however with wm6 there has been a few occassions where I have not had a chance to charge the phone in one or two days and it has gone flat when I really needed it... simple things like this make the upgrade not worthwhile IMO, even if there are better features and nicer look in wm6..
Still confused what to do then with my xda orbit!
Just found this thread.
Mixed advice it would seem.
I've just bought an XDA ORBIT. It's still got Windows Mobile 5 and has TOMTOM 6 installed.
I still don't know whether I should UPGRADING TO WINDOWS 6.0 OR NOT?
Some say TomTom6 runs better on Windows 5, some disagree.
I also have copilot 6.0 discs which I could use instead. Anyone have a preference between Tomtom6 and Copilot 6 on the xda orbit?
Thanks in advance,
Matt.
I strongly reccomend skipping WM6.0 and going streight to WM6.1, and go for the "Touch 4.01" rom. I'd personally reccomend the vanilla one, as it's the fastest, and most of the installed stuff will be useless on the bulkier roms.
TomTom 6 runs very well on WM6.1, better than I remember on 5.0, however, i'm using a much later version I got from an unmentionable place. Takes only 3-4s to load from the today screen.
As for the data loss with WM5, that's actually a bit of a fib. Non-volatile storage was introduced with WM5, and enhanced for WM6. It was WM2003/SE when there were issues with volatile storage, and the in-ability to actually turn a device off.
Hope this helps
thormdac said:
in general: DUMP WM5 !
he last tested and afaik original artemis radio rom is version 02.98.90.
greetz
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Latest official o2 wm6 rom is shipping with radio version 3.06.90, which I found very good.
Wish there was stand alone install for this one, so I could use it with touch 4.02.

Is it possible to install PIE from WM6.5 on the diamond WM6.1?

Just wonder if anyone managed to extract pocket internet explorer from the wm6.5 rom vga to wm6.1? I'm using a diamond gsm with a custom rom.
Thanks in advance to all
105 views and no answer?
Any idea anyone? I'm asking as I cannot find it anywhere? Is it even possible to run it on WM6.1?
dont know how to or if its possible but having been using various 6.5 roms over the past month or so i find PIE for 6.5 slow, unstable and has problems with the diamond keyboards.
Thanks
optiknerv said:
dont know how to or if its possible but having been using various 6.5 roms over the past month or so i find PIE for 6.5 slow, unstable and has problems with the diamond keyboards.
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Yes you are right, just thought it might behave a little better as WM6.1. On the BsB WM6.5C rom it was not that bad. I was able to use it properly but because I need the device to be reliable I had to unistall WM6.5 until its official and ported to the diamond. I can see that it came out today so its not going to take that much longer i think!
Thanks for answering by the way.

Uniwersal downgrade to WM 2003 ?

Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?
No, WM5 only
Heniek_W said:
Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?
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Why you want to downgraded to wm2003?
Heniek_W said:
Hi all,
as in title, is it possible to downgrade HTC Uniwersal to Windows Mobile 2003?
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It's like going back to windows 95 in your computer....
Uni came in with wm5 so you can not go before that, and there is no wm2003 roms for uni so NO...
tomal said:
Why you want to downgraded to wm2003?
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Yea, Why do you want to downgrade from wm5/6/6.1/6.5/6.5.1?
Cause everyone says, that Win 2003 was the best of Windows Mobile ever. So I want to try it
Haha, everyone who?
Yes, it was the best Windows Mobile ever....6 years ago.
yeah, but look
WM 5 was the slowest
WM 6 was qiute good, 6.1 too
WM 6.5 well......
And now I want try WM 2003 on my Uniwersal, cause for exemple 2003 for BlueAngel, as everyone says, is the best
Or maybe there is a Win CE for uniwersal?
i don't mean to bump this, however this needs to be said.
i wish there was a wm2003 for the universal. or at least a clean working vga wm5.
I got a universal a few days ago, i slapped wm6 realvga on it. res was great, loved it. speed? i couldnt even answer a phone call. Thats how slow WM6+ is. changing screen orientation caused me to miss phone calls. I've since downgraded to swat4's wm5, which lacks vga but overall is much much faster lmfao.
so.
wm2003(entire OS in ram, how can it not be faster?)>wm5>wm6.0>wm6.1>wm6.5.
if only i could figure out how to use ramfilesystem for wm5. that'd be fantastic.
Dpends which WM6 you use. Most of us have found a version we love and runs extremely fast, and would only revert to WM5 if we needed Video Call.
On that subject, I see fring is doing video call. It would be good if that comes over to WM devices
Just until recently I had HP hw6515 the beetle with 64 mb ram, PXA270 312 MHz and WM2003SE. And it was not better at all. The delay and lag was awful when you were about to receive call while doing something else, surfing for example. The only advantage was the old memory allocation where you could just slide the bar and decide what amount will be available for programs and what for storage.
I wouldnt trade id for WM6 or even 5.
Heniek_W said:
yeah, but look
WM 5 was the slowest
WM 6 was qiute good, 6.1 too
WM 6.5 well......
And now I want try WM 2003 on my Uniwersal, cause for exemple 2003 for BlueAngel, as everyone says, is the best
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WM5 was slower than WM2003 for other reasons than just the OS. This was when the WM platform switched from NOR to NAND flash chips. NOR is faster and allows programs to be executed directly without copying to RAM first. NAND flash operates more like disk and programs have to be copied to RAM before execution. This slows down the OS. NAND has other advantages though (cost, life expectancy).
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5870.html
hmm interesting
wm 2003 in this uni
Oh i'm also interested in the wm2003 - from the pictures, there should be an official wm2003 rom for the UNI but not available to the public...the article also mentionned 128 MB of RAM...Rom it should have said I guess.
I miss my old PDA2's system. it would be great to have it back on this Uni.

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