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is the i-mate pda2 rom more stable than the xdaiii o2 uk rom

hi all!
i've got a very unstable xdaiii o2 uk
is the i-mate pda2 rom better?
i hope someone can help me cause its very frustrating!!!
thanks
Fantomas

personally, i found it better

Where can i find the latest i-mate rom????

I've found it better - though not significantly at least the lockups are less.
You can download it via:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23736&highlight=pda2+imate
Cheers
Ant

thanks Jim and Anton!
an other thing, i'm getting lock ups with tomtom 3+ BT GPS. i know about the turn off phone method to stop locking but whats the point of having a pda phone edition then! so its got to be an other solution!
does the pda2 rom stops the above problem ? cause the radio version on the pda2 is higher! by the way i've already uninstalled o2 stuff!
or should i hard reset and go corporate on xdaiii (to see if lockups stops) before changing over to i-mate rom?
lastly! are the programs on the PDA2 excatly the same than xdaiii? (i mean all programs identical)
thanks again!
i'm impressed with this forum and all of you on it!
Fantomas

On TT3 I found lockups dropped substantially once I'd hidden the POIs - have you tried this? TT5 (now that I've added the POI and the 5.10) seems a lot better.
Some programs are not included like in the O2 version, but then also some things are included in the ROM as standard like the fax viewer, and also a copy of Skype. CallerID and MMS programs are still there as they're integrated into the ROM.
Ant

Radio problems with LVSW/Radio ROM

I am using LVSW ROMs since 26/03 version, through 08/04 until present 19/05. I also have 1.41 version of Radio ROM. Since I've started using these ROMs, I'm noticing problems with radio stack.
For example, while I was driving a car across Europe (UK->PL) few weeks ago, GSM module hanged almost every time I was crossing a border between countries and phone was loosing signal from one country and had to register in another. All I could see was little [!] sign instead of signal bars, and restarting phone module and/or whole device could help it. Two days ago I was on M1 from Sheffield to London and I've noticed that GSM module just died - pressing green button did just nothing (despite I had full signal bars), and people trying to call me that time, were saying they had regular calling signal, like I was missing a call. Besides that whole device was working properly, with no problems whatsoever.
On the other hand, I have no problems with dropped calls or data sessions. Looks like it is happening mainly on the move, and phone has problems with registering with network properly.
So there is a question(s) - does anyone have similar problems with LVSW ROMs or 1.41 Radio ROM? Should I downgrade Radio ROM to 1.40 or 1.38? I have HardSPLv7 installed, so is it safe to just use this RUU - ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Hermes/HERM_Radio_Only_1.40.30.00_CustomRUU.rar ? I've been searching forums, but haven't found much information on *downgrading* Radio ROM in particular.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Its the radio rom causing you problems. I've also had problems with data connections in particular using ROM 1.40 and 1.41 (in Asia, on UMTS and EDGE networks).
Suggest you re-flash the pretty-much proven 1.38 ROM. You can find the download link from the Wiki.

radio downgrade
I used the 1.40 on black 2.5 and it was ok , then I upgraded to 1.41 radio and I had problems with the sound quality so I downgraded to 1.40 and the sound become back good
I have HardSPLv7 installed and I am on orange IL Israel
I used for downgrade CustomRUU and had no problems on the downgrade prosses
now i am using the last version of LVWS with radio 1.40 and it is working ok
hope this info help you
another remark :
try to install first the radion and on top of it os and not first os and then radio , i notice in a change of battery life in those 2 variants

Were you driving too fast for the phone to keep up with the radio transmitters passing by????
I'm also using LVSW 19-05 and Radio 1.41 but not having any significant issues unless a program runs at 100%, then the person trying to call me hangs up before the phone starts ringing!
Ciao Oggy.

It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...

DAFTEK said:
It's not the LVSW ROM.....! It's the radio 1.41 And this radio was tuned for Cingular. I am on Cingular and i personally think that 1.40 is much much better. Read up on the two radio topics for more info on the two. So the bottom line is it's NOT LVSW at fault here. it's the 1.41 radio...
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Yeah, that's what I thought, but wasn't 100% sure either. I'm going to downgrade to 1.40 tonight and will observe any results...
Thanks to all for your inputs.

to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
I can (and have) replicated this with EVERY radio from 1.27 to 1.41 (and I do mean EVERY radio)
I've also tried EVERY WM6 rom out there all do the same.
so I can only think its T-mobile playing up, its just strange that everything worked fine with WM5 as I remember (and no Im not flashing back to find out!)

Hi, I'm in the Netherlands. Just tested the 1.40 because 1.41 disconnected all the time. So far so good (5 calls later..). Downgrade went fine with the customRUU. Regards Bas

ratcom said:
to be fair I think there is a problem with t-mobile uk at the moment with handovers, let me explain.......
I have a active data connection.........
phone is on 3G, everything fine
phone switches to 2G, data connection is still active, no problems
phone switches to 3G, data connection is broken and the radio reboots (scrolling dots ect.)
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Interesting - it might be worth to check, but here in London it's actually hard to find a place where phone would switch itself 3G->2G. But anyway, I had problems not only on T-Mobile UK network, as I stated in first post, so I rather think it's Radio ROM related problem, more than network.

Sorry...I've been to positive. Right now only incoming calls come through. Outgoing is still a disaster. I'll downgrade to 1.38. Ill let you know if this works..

Currently in Thailand on DTAC, an EDGE network (all their GSM networks here have EDGE).
Radio 1.40: Voice calls were okay, didn't seem to have any problems, until I tried using data (gprs/edge). The data connection was completely unstable and unusable. Downgraded to radio 1.38...
Radio 1.38: Everything okay so far, EDGE data and voice calls.

Same boat!
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
Oi! T-Mobile!! Sort it out before I head back to Orange!!!!
Actually, forget that rant, no point taking two steps backwards and starting to pay per MB again!!! LMAO

mccreath said:
Yup, same thing here with T-Mobile and the 3G/2G thingy.
Though I must admit 1.40 is pretty sucky anyway, 1.41 was worse.
Considering going back to 1.38, I've forgotten what it came with 1.2x or something, which, for its sins was pretty OK.
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One more thing, which just came to my mind - in the original T-Mobile's MDA Vario II Extended ROM there is a file called P_rilgsm_patch.CAB, which could be related to Radio. Maybe this is a key for these problems? I guess this patch is network-specific - well, I believe this patch is there for a reason...
Btw, I've just downgraded to 1.40...

Error message flashing Radio 1.40.30
Hope someone can help me with this. I'm encountering an error message when trying to flash to radio 1.40.30. I have Custel 2.5 installed on a JasJam with Radio 1.41 currently.
When I run the update RUU program and click the AutoDetect button, I get a message that says "Error, Unknown version! You should pick SSPL".
I have HardSPL7 installed, so my question is, is it safe to force SSPL? Is that what it is asking me to do?
Thanks.
Nevermind, I think I found the answer finally - it only took many days:
1. Select "2.10 new..."
2. Tick "Is it HARD Spl?"
And then run the update as per normal.

where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks

naxos said:
where is the link to downgrade the radio 1.38
thanks
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You will find all the Radio roms available at this link:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms

thanks man

tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file

ratcom said:
tried P_rilgsm_patch.CAB which as made abit of a mess Could some post rilgsm.dll from a LVSW rom plz as I managed to backup the wrong file
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OK, but how to actually copy/send rilgsm.dll file?? Each time I have 'File cannot be copied' message, or such like... :-o
Btw, what happened, when you applied rilgsm patch?

i now get a "E" icon instead of "3G" and the radio seems slower handing over from 3G to 2G and back (thank god my stairs are 2G only!) I've sent you a PM on how to copy that file.

Radio Rom roundup (determening best radio for each country/provider)

The goal of this thread is to find out which radio is best for your region and provider.
We will have to look at the following
-Reception strenght for both gsm and 3g.
-Speed of GPS lock
-Batterylife
I have added a poll, the poll will be continent based, but you can post your exact country and provider in your commentry post.
if we can get enough information or see a red line that makes things easyer we could add a wiki page with recomended radios for each country or provider

yeayyy second...
from qatar .. no probs with radio 150xxxx
signals ..atleat get a bar where 1.46 didnt get any
gps.. maybe bit faster lock..
improved.. now dont need to charger 2 days ( depends on usage)

In New Zealand (on Vodafone NZ), and strangely with the Dopod ANZ WM6 ROM and 1.46.30.11 radio incoming calls don't work, I can dial out just fine and all other radio functions (BT, WIFI, GPS) work perfectly. Just nobody can call me - they get a disconnected signal which is very strange! Tried fixing the phone to only GSM or only 3G, neither of which helped.
I would have thought that since the Dopod ANZ ROM was released for the ANZ region the 1.46.30.11 radio that came with it would work nere.
Went back to the 1.38 radio ROM which fixed the problem. Haven't yet tried 1.41 or 1.50 to see if they fix the problem.

In North America using 1.46.00. It works as well as 1.38 did, however GPS fix is twice as fast now.

Rogers Canada
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1.50.08.111
1.46.xxxx
Sometimes calls are dropped after 1 ring and sent straight to voicemail. Sometimes phone doesn't even ring and goes straight to voicemail. GPS reception is great. Haven't noticed any difference in call quality with either of these radios.
1.38.00.11
Seems to be most stable for me. Doesn't not have the same issues as the newer radios, however GPS reception isn't as good.

T-Mobile USA.These ones work fine.
1.35.00.11
1.38.00.11
1.41.00.11
1.46.00.11
1.46.30.11
This version:1.50.08.11
Sends my calls straight to voicemail and sometimes the phone only rings once.

Up till now it would seem that 1.50.08.111 is the best version to choose by default, and only if you have problem then you should downgrade to 1.46.xxxx

ACCORDING TO MY OPINION:
each official os require different drivers and/or dll to access to radio rom and one of the most important is rilgsm.dll and related exes.
More or less, we actually have 3 kinds of cooked rom, derived from official anz, sea and new anz with different radio roms. Each one should use the radio rom shipped with its own os, but as to seem that all the people here go always to the latest revision number without thinking to the drivers they are using.
The latest radio 1.50 has been shipped by a local provider probably with special setting, but the people seem to go to this version just becouse it's the latest revision. Why don't you trust what your rom cookers are suggesting about radio roms?
For example, it seem that the most part of the people are using axel roms on its devices, and axel includes Radio v1.46.00.11 to its own rom. But according to this poll, most part of the people are using 1.50 radio.
Please think about this...
Ciao

Antzzz said:
In New Zealand (on Vodafone NZ), and strangely with the Dopod ANZ WM6 ROM and 1.46.30.11 radio incoming calls don't work, I can dial out just fine and all other radio functions (BT, WIFI, GPS) work perfectly. Just nobody can call me - they get a disconnected signal which is very strange! Tried fixing the phone to only GSM or only 3G, neither of which helped.
I would have thought that since the Dopod ANZ ROM was released for the ANZ region the 1.46.30.11 radio that came with it would work nere.
Went back to the 1.38 radio ROM which fixed the problem. Haven't yet tried 1.41 or 1.50 to see if they fix the problem.
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Yeah, I have the same problem with my P3600. I have upgraded to radio rom 1.46 and people can not call me anymore. I am downgrading to 1.38 now. I have put wm5 back but the radio rom didn't change. it is still 1.46.

and?
And South America? it doesnt exist?

There can only be 10 options, so south america and everything else not mentioned goes under the other option

Tried 1.38.00.11 .. that comes with mun rom...
it was working perfectly ...
then unfortunately i upgraded to 1.46.30.11 ...
which sucks big time ... voice is bad ... reception is bad .. and gps is the same ...
didn't try other roms ...
on my way to reinstall 1.38

I for one never noticed any difference they all perform the same way, its only a version number that changes in my device

What about Portugal?
Im still using the olg 1.46 one...

taiseer999 said:
I for one never noticed any difference they all perform the same way, its only a version number that changes in my device
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If thats the case why are you still using Radio-Rom: 1.46.30.11 ? could you explain?
vdias said:
What about Portugal?
Im still using the olg 1.46 one...
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Last time i checked portugal was part of europe

tetsuo55 said:
If thats the case why are you still using Radio-Rom: 1.46.30.11 ? could you explain?
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Yeah simply becuase I am tired of moving between different versions just trying to improve the GPS first fix as people claim the fix is faster with every new radio rom, and I got sick of it and that was the last version I used....
I would have had the same question coming to me with any number I had put in my signature....ha

thanks for that answer

Can we pin this and other Polls?

I am using "Test.build.gps.32.75.7020" Its was made for specific network provider. With standard radio rom my phone was missing calls and sms messages.

Hello guys!
I flashed 1.5xxx radio to my Trini, and my IMEI has changed!!!Do you have any idea, how to change it back? My IMEI is checked every time, I leave the factory, I can not leave it like this

Which radio version is the best for WiFi

i have an Orange SPV M5000 which has the version 1.03 and would like to improve the WiFi reception / range. Which version shoud I upgrade to (I have heard that 1.09 is very good)

radio is gsm/3g only so whatever you chooses it will have no difference

Ah, i didn't know that thanks for the info. So is there any way to improve Wi Fi

so is there a recommended radio version for wm5?

Max. I have asked this a few times with no reply. From what I have read, 1.09 seems go get a good press with no bad comments.

max007007 said:
so is there a recommended radio version for wm5?
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1.17 Is the latest official realease which was in the T-Mobile rom from late September 2007. It's what I personally use and have had no faults with it. I am using an O2 WM5 rom from Mid 2006.
Regards,
Psi

i dont have problem with 1.15.but i now use 1.18 as it seems to be the latest.but it sometimes doesnt show the g letter in the gprs area.in the 3g area it always shows 3g,ok.in the gprs area,sometimes it only x,but if you try to connect to the web,it can.why is this?it seem 1.18 is worse than 1.15.i never used 1.17,can some1 give me radio only for 1.17?

As I said,
From what I have read, 1.09 seems go get a good press with no bad comments. Most of the other versions seem to have some sort of problems or are there additions/changes in the later versions that are worth having & putting up with the problems.
Regards John

1.17 is identical to 1.18

Artemis Vanilla 4.01 and Touch 4.01 issues

I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.

josef.bilek said:
I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, how long do u have such problems and who is ur mobile operator. according to ur name I suppose that u r from Czech Rep.
I'm asking b'cause during last weekend I had also problem with my phone which leaded to reflashing of my phone but it was problem of operator.
I'm by O2 and have O2 XDA Orbit. I wasn't able to get any sms or report of delivery, i could send them only. and now i have bit different problem, sometimes sms from me is delivered, is shown in phone but it is something what i sended already before and then it dissapears from phone reciever's phone.
Such serious problems with ROM are strange, b'cuause those ROMs are out more then month and as I know, nobody had the same problem as u. I'm using Touch 4.01 without cube from first day when it was published here with no problem. i'm not couting problem with memory leaking which is probably problem of wm6.1 rom in general then Touch 4.01.

No, I am not only one who referring this problem. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375930
Correct, I am from CZ and using T-Mobile, but in roaming quite often. But it happens independently on network. Touch Full 4.01 was more or less horrible, Vanilla 4.01 is better, but still time to time is freezing the radio part. To avoid discussion about radios, I have tried last 3 versions with the same result (3.08,2.98,2.97). But I really believe that problem is with OEMDrivers in Bepe's Kitchen. What Bepe even highlighted, that these drivers in first version are for different type of phone. The most stable version, what I had, it was B&B4.2 for more than 1/2 year. But of course WM6.1 is much faster. It was my reason for upgrade.

ok, then i cannot help, this is up on guys which r cooking ROMs.
will cross my fingers for u to solve this problem. it is nice from guys that they provided new ROMs based od WM 6.1 two months earlier than Macro**** but such serious problem takes us back to prehistory, b'cause having phone with which u r scared to call b'cause of freezing has no point.

Same problem here, flashed a lot of different roms to my device but only having these freeze problems since touch 4.01.
Right now it's only once per week. But it's been much worse: reboot, lock after 30 secs, freeze 5 secs later, repeat. Had to reflash my device. (And i always flash twice with a new rom).
I hope the fix is as easy as just building the rom with a newer version kitchen.

same problem for me.
i am running 4.01 Touch with full cube, operator is orange netherlands.
sometimes i have to reset the phone 3 times a day, after that i get a whole lot of sms (normal) and the calls i missed.
going to try 4.02 now, hope that's one's better

doesnt matter what version do you use - but always flash twice(one by one) and make a hard reset after flashing. Result is - much more stable work.

@d3ton4tor
I'm on dutch orange too, but haven't had a problem with touch lite 4.01. I'm using touch vanilla 4.02 now and still no probs.. I've got a MDA Compact tho..

I never had any problems with 4.01, or any of the previous roms, but since using 4.02 i have had several lockups now, about once a week. So maybe i better reflash it again see if that cures it ?

It is interesting. I have made update for Touch Vanilla 4.02 and everything works perfect. Sometime the less is more. I would never go for all Cube staff, it is only the memory eater from my perspective. I have realized that I can remove from StartUp folder WiFi link (I have T-Mobile ARTE110 - WiFi missing) and it is better. Under more or less conditions above 20 MB and it is very valuable especially for navigation SW like iGO.

Try PagePool 8M
Try PagePool 8M.
Pagepool
My English is so bad.

Or try the 4.02 it works fine here in my HTC 3300 also t-mobile client ;-).
Flashed it yesterday and works fine no freeze or what ever, even gps and radio works fine.
Greetz THeM

Destinator n maps
hey i just installed destinator 7 on my o2 orbit it doesnt detect the map infact no map at all
can any1 help me with this???

Hi,
You need to ensure that the maps folder is included in the destinator apps folder. That is when your destinator would be able to detect the maps.
By the way can you share your Destinator 7 (Mumbai Map) with me ??
Regards,
kailash

I too have problems with the Touch 4.1 vanilla rom but my issues manifested themselves after I had been using the rom for a while without any problems. Now I run out of memory quicker when using PIE and have to reset a lot more. Also sometimes am unable to connect to GPRS/EDGE without a reset. I will be trying any new roms that come out but its becoming clear to me that I need to upgrade.