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Hi,
I just got some new applications and installed them, the last one was InterKey(Paragon software). After finishing the install it requested restart and restarted after clicking OK. Now it just won't wake up to windows and get's stuck on "smart mobility" after the "by bepe" and HTC logo...
It should install on the SD card, but I also tryed removing it, but it is just the same.
What to do, I don't wana flash it again, because of all the data, so please advice, if there is another way...
I'm using bepe rom (latest I think), about the radio I am not sure...
Regards,
Peter
Hard reset
Odisej said:
Hi,
I just got some new applications and installed them, the last one was InterKey(Paragon software). After finishing the install it requested restart and restarted after clicking OK. Now it just won't wake up to windows and get's stuck on "smart mobility" after the "by bepe" and HTC logo...
It should install on the SD card, but I also tryed removing it, but it is just the same.
What to do, I don't wana flash it again, because of all the data, so please advice, if there is another way...
I'm using bepe rom (latest I think), about the radio I am not sure...
Regards,
Peter
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Try a hard reset....
well... since I need the phone feature, I'll do that... it's the same like flshing, right? Everything's lost after hard-reset...
btw, does anyone know, how to set a different alarm ringtone?
Regards,
Peter
I am experiencing a similiar problem on the Trinity. If I install a new fresh ROM (Ive tried several, currently running Marys) and then install a few normal applications (tomtom, Googlemaps, Messenger and so on) after a few days it wont start up after switching it off.
A hard reset solves the problem, but Im starting to get a bit tired of doing a hard reset every other week.
I tried to roll back to the factory default firmware (witn no GPS activated) and then installed MunRus's newest..however the problem came back after a few days use.
What ROM
Odisej said:
well... since I need the phone feature, I'll do that... it's the same like flshing, right? Everything's lost after hard-reset...
btw, does anyone know, how to set a different alarm ringtone?
Regards,
Peter
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Whos ROM are you using?
Try Karmba
tommylad said:
I am experiencing a similiar problem on the Trinity. If I install a new fresh ROM (Ive tried several, currently running Marys) and then install a few normal applications (tomtom, Googlemaps, Messenger and so on) after a few days it wont start up after switching it off.
A hard reset solves the problem, but Im starting to get a bit tired of doing a hard reset every other week.
I tried to roll back to the factory default firmware (witn no GPS activated) and then installed MunRus's newest..however the problem came back after a few days use.
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Try the Karmba_a 3.0 ROM very good
I'm using bepe's rom 3.00.751.10 and radio 1.38.00.11
Regards,
Peter
Ok, PC is fine, close any running programs. Hermes has stock WM5 with some programs added. Only reg tweaks are PTT and removed 3G animation at start.
Device syncs normally every day and both Work and Home.
When I follow all the directions, run the Updater - The PPC gets the Color Bars as the Updater is trying to read it....then AS (V4.5) disconnects and closes. (gone from taskbar) I can soft reset the device, reopen AS, they sync just fine. At this point I have the updater do the next, it pulls up the Current ROM info and says it will upgrade to the new one. I select next, and it starts.....and AS closes again. After a minute the upgrade app says it lost connection. (duh!)
Any ideas why?
I'm not a stranger to upgrading roms on PPC's, have several that have both been updated a number of times. No issues, though that several AS versions earlier.
I've given thought to Hard Reseting the device, but I'm wondering if its more AS's fault.
Any and all input much appreciated!
Thank You!
JETninja said:
Ok, PC is fine, close any running programs. Hermes has stock WM5 with some programs added. Only reg tweaks are PTT and removed 3G animation at start.
Device syncs normally every day and both Work and Home.
When I follow all the directions, run the Updater - The PPC gets the Color Bars as the Updater is trying to read it....then AS (V4.5) disconnects and closes. (gone from taskbar) I can soft reset the device, reopen AS, they sync just fine. At this point I have the updater do the next, it pulls up the Current ROM info and says it will upgrade to the new one. I select next, and it starts.....and AS closes again. After a minute the upgrade app says it lost connection. (duh!)
Any ideas why?
I'm not a stranger to upgrading roms on PPC's, have several that have both been updated a number of times. No issues, though that several AS versions earlier.
I've given thought to Hard Reseting the device, but I'm wondering if its more AS's fault.
Any and all input much appreciated!
Thank You!
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Are you following the directions at THIS GUIDE . What ROM are you trying to put on there? Did you CID unlock the device? Are you running Vista? Do you have .NET 2.0 or 3.0 version?
That should be enough questions to get us started.
Did you read my title? This is the stock ATT WM6 that came out yesterday. No need to unlock the phone, it is a 1 week old ATT 8525 with the stock ATT WM5 Rom on it.....
Windows XP SP2+ PC.
If it's the rom RUU_Hermes_CINGULAR_WWE_3.62.502.3_6275_1.54.07.00_108_UOOS_SVN05_Ship maybe it had some problems because if you go to the official release site http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html they are still showing the WM5 rom for download.
There may have been a problem with the release and they pulled it back for some reason. Just a thought and not much help I'm afraid.
Yes thats it. When it ID's my current Rom and what it will upgrade to, it is correct. (it shows it's 3.62 vs my current 2.xx) Many peeps have had no problem upgrading to it. (most find it a very good Rom from the varios sites I read)
And this page at HTC still has it up:
http://www.america.htc.com/support/8525/software-downloads.html
JETninja said:
Ok, PC is fine, close any running programs. Hermes has stock WM5 with some programs added. Only reg tweaks are PTT and removed 3G animation at start.
Device syncs normally every day and both Work and Home.
When I follow all the directions, run the Updater - The PPC gets the Color Bars as the Updater is trying to read it....then AS (V4.5) disconnects and closes. (gone from taskbar) I can soft reset the device, reopen AS, they sync just fine. At this point I have the updater do the next, it pulls up the Current ROM info and says it will upgrade to the new one. I select next, and it starts.....and AS closes again. After a minute the upgrade app says it lost connection. (duh!)
Any ideas why?
I'm not a stranger to upgrading roms on PPC's, have several that have both been updated a number of times. No issues, though that several AS versions earlier.
I've given thought to Hard Reseting the device, but I'm wondering if its more AS's fault.
Any and all input much appreciated!
Thank You!
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You just need to wait for a while AS shuts down that is normal be patient and it will start updating you will see a progress bar will take approx 10 min after that
@brorex he can wait till christmas next year, if the updater cant communicate with the device , because it has closed AS then it will never update.
@JETninja
try doing what i said to this guy here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341282
yesterday he upgraded with the same rom and device and it worked
brorex said:
You just need to wait for a while AS shuts down that is normal be patient and it will start updating you will see a progress bar will take approx 10 min after that
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I thought that too, but after the color bar test when it want to set you up to actually install the ROM, the Upgrader whats you to make sure there is an active connection with AS. Well, there isn't. It shut down and the PPC is still showing the color bars. I can reset it, then re-sync to AS. (after having to re-launch AS from the Program Files - it no longer resides in the Tray when it shuts down during the process) I then get it going again, it attempts to start the ROM upgrade, AS quits again.....about a min later I get the Communication Error message....
I'm downloading a 2nd copy right now, will try it as soon as it completes...
*Edit...think I have an idea what I'm doing wrong, I have it connected and synced too early, the first part of the ROM updater is just a PC test, I'm thinking the PPC should not have been connected at that time. Re-trying it now.....
Try putting it in boot loader and upload...thats what i did when i updated my 8525...Very much like the new ROM...
Going to give it a shot here at work on this PC. If no go still, will try the above mentioned methods. PC at home kept getting communication errors...
i had the same problem
make the connection at AS then start the update process.... the 8525 will go into 3 bar mode and when the update gets to the upgrading rom screen... the installed rom wont show up.... hit upgrade... and then continue and it will work.... i was stuck there for a while too because if i waited for the istallation to load then made the as connection the right image would show up in the installer but then it would stop working after that.....
I just put this rom on my 8525 and it worked well for me. My 8525 is unlocked with supercid so I had to extract the OS and update using the methods described for working with SPL-140 Olipro with IPL-1.01 or the "How not to Brick thread".
That won't help you much as you don't want to do that mod to your New 8525 and void the warranty, but thought you might like to know the stock OS seems pretty stable at this point and I have had no problems yet.
Thanks everyone! It finally worked here on my Work PC. At home I could get to the Bootloader, but it would lose connection for some reason. Here I lost it the first time, but tried it again and it managed to stay connected and apply the update. Got it up and running, applied owner info, just now re-doing the AS relationship. (a good 500+ contacts! LOL! It'll take a little while as usual!)
Then it's back to all the tweaks I like so far...and some new ones I've held up on since I've been waiting for WM6.
Out of my 3 PDA's (2 ipaqs and this puppy) this one has certainly been the trickiest ROM update, but it seems to be more my device since most don't have this much trouble.
Thanks again!
So far- So good, but just one problem- BATTERY!!!
After I installed upgrade, my battery drains in few hours... I reset phone, I reloded upgrade- nothing helps! Warranty still in affect, but phone worked well and I'm positive- hardware is OK. What else can i do to fix this problem?
I have the same problem
ai6908 said:
Try putting it in boot loader and upload...thats what i did when i updated my 8525...Very much like the new ROM...
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I have the same problem exactly. As soon as I start the upgrade the device immediately sleeps and the connection is lost. 1 minute later I get a Connection error message.
I am new to all this. How do i put the machine in 'boot loader' mode?
Thanks
Just did this rom update again on a 8525 the installation went extracting files active sync shut down wait a few minutes nothing happens the the upgrade screen no ACTIVESYNC connection while update is happening as soon as device is in bootloader mode activesync closes out
I'm opening this thread to find out the answer as to why the Hermes freezes or lockups on WM6.1. It gives you no other option but to soft reset. Unfortunately, it stays on your second splash screen after a soft reset; so, you will resort only to hard reset your device.
In some cases, it even causes to hard reset your device without warning after a freeze. It's not how long you use the device... it's what you are using most frequently.
In my observation over the last two weeks, it freezes in the following occasion:
1. restoring messages using dotFred PIM Backup
2. introducing exchange server settings
3. frequent closing and opening of SMS application
4. frequent sliding in/out of keyboard
To single out the problem, I have not introduced any changes to the ROM or even installed CABs. I am merely trying to use the base ROM like I used to with WM6.
I have tried various ROMs todate: Schapps, PDA viet, TNT, No ROM maker, Faria's and they all result to sudden system fault in the two Hermes that I have in my possession. I figured, this must be a 6.1 thing, but I noticed that it has not been given attention.
So, let us hear your freeze and hard reset problems on WM6.1 guys!
the only rom that hasnt froze on me has been CRC's rom. All the others seem to suffer from this weird problem.
After so many testing, one more would not hurt thanks for the feedback. Will give it a try.
tjlabais said:
I'm opening this thread to find out the answer as to why the Hermes freezes or lockups on WM6.1. It gives you no other option but to soft reset. Unfortunately, it stays on your second splash screen after a soft reset; so, you will resort only to hard reset your device.
In some cases, it even causes to hard reset your device without warning after a freeze. It's not how long you use the device... it's what you are using most frequently.
In my observation over the last two weeks, it freezes in the following occasion:
1. restoring messages using dotFred PIM Backup
2. introducing exchange server settings
3. frequent closing and opening of SMS application
4. frequent sliding in/out of keyboard
To single out the problem, I have not introduced any changes to the ROM or even installed CABs. I am merely trying to use the base ROM like I used to with WM6.
I have tried various ROMs todate: Schapps, PDA viet, TNT, No ROM maker, Faria's and they all result to sudden system fault in the two Hermes that I have in my possession. I figured, this must be a 6.1 thing, but I noticed that it has not been given attention.
So, let us hear your freeze and hard reset problems on WM6.1 guys!
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I have semilar issue and now the problem is solved. please click on my signature below why did I go back to official ROM for the detail threat.
same here
i even got my device changed since i thought it was a hardware problem.
it only happens on wm6.1 though, so as much as i like the added speed and threaded sms, flashing the original wm6 rom fixed it and from there im going to keep to wm6.0 - it worked quite nicely.
I suspect (a lot) of bigstorage or some bug on the write-to-internal-rom cache/buffer (if exists) associated to any app that writes to fast to the ROM.
I notice when I use anything on SD card that nothing bad occurs but if I use the internal mem (SMS, internal apps, etc) it freezes all the time.
I had these issues until I used mtty.exe to clean up some bad blocks and then flashed Faria R32, since then no more issues (though opera 9.405 sometimes will freeze my hermes).
I had the same problem until I flashed the offical AT&T WM6 rom with radio and then flashed back to wm6.1..
No freezes or hard resets since..
I don't think this is a big storage issue... if it were, wm6.1 in other similar devices like the trinity would have suffered the same fate, but it doesn't.
I really don't see the point of going back to an ATT official ROM before flashing 6.1. But a lot has said that they no longer have this issue after doing so, then it must be RUU related.
It might also mean: a full ROM flashing for 6.1 might be necessary.
Either way, I'll continue testing, but it would be nice if other guys with this issue will be willing to help test it...
I just made some digging, and just found out how some wm6.1 users get their freezes/lockups. There issue was due to radio compatibility.
hmmm... if the WM6.1 ROM was built with OEM from the AT&T Official, then the radio that best match for it is from the AT&T as well.
This might explain that flashing the AT&T official prior to flashing the wm6.1 sets the radio to AT&T.
Hope this will solve the freeze/lockup mystery.
Have any of you guys tried changing/switching RADIO ROM while in WM6.1?
I just did, trying to experiment. Prior to WM6.1, I loaded an Official Dopod WM6 ROM. Then I loaded the Faria-R32 Full version.
Although, I did not have freezes on the first day of testing... I decided to switch to Radio 1.54 since most users flashed the AT&T Official prior to flashing WM6.1. Guess what? It flashed successfully and boot successfully for the first time. However, when I make a call, the audio has a very poor quality. So, I reset it using the reset button just to clear it up; however, it hanged on first screen... then I reset one more time, it hanged on 2nd screen, then I reset again, it hanged on WM screen.
Enough of it, so, I loaded back 1.47.0.10, and I'm back in business? No. The switching of the Radio ROM has caused the ROM to be corrupted... Somehow, the RADIO has something to do with the freezing...
WM 6.1 ROMs are very unstable (Faria, TNT, etc. I tested several, including those "naked" or clean)
After I install some (useful) software like HTC Home and some other 2-3 programs and after some hours it froze (it did with Faria, TNT, etc). TNT´s WM6.1 is a little more stable (takes longer to froze) but Faria´s WM6.1 is faster.
The more we use the internal flash memory, the faster it frozes and requests a hard reset. Since Friday I hard rebooted some 20x (Faria + TNT roms).
I´ll go back to WM6.0 for now.
EDIT: I installed my radio rom after the last main rom and works very well (I update all roms from the SD card). I updated before and after the main rom (but it never got corrupted) and they frozed. In my case nothing to do with the froze.
I nearly advised my friend to send for service thinking a big hardware problem. Thanks as now I know it's not the phone itself .
Hello,
I had the same problem when 6.1 came out on all 19199.0.7.0 builds. For me the solution was to update to a ROM using build 19199.1.0.0. Since then I had no hard resets at all (I am running CRCs PHK v12 Release 9 for about 2 weeks now).
Maybe this works for you as well.
Cheers,
Uli
mmick said:
WM 6.1 ROMs are very unstable (Faria, TNT, etc. I tested several, including those "naked" or clean)
After I install some (useful) software like HTC Home and some other 2-3 programs and after some hours it froze (it did with Faria, TNT, etc). TNT´s WM6.1 is a little more stable (takes longer to froze) but Faria´s WM6.1 is faster.
The more we use the internal flash memory, the faster it frozes and requests a hard reset. Since Friday I hard rebooted some 20x (Faria + TNT roms).
I´ll go back to WM6.0 for now.
EDIT: I installed my radio rom after the last main rom and works very well (I update all roms from the SD card). I updated before and after the main rom (but it never got corrupted) and they frozed. In my case nothing to do with the froze.
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I don't think it's the way it's accessing the memory; otherwise, other devices would have suffered the same fate. So far, only the hermes suffer the freezing syndrome which means that there is something in the hermes that is not fully compatible with the WM6.1 build.
did you try to flash the AT&T build prior to flashing the wm6.1 build?
hukoeth said:
Hello,
I had the same problem when 6.1 came out on all 19199.0.7.0 builds. For me the solution was to update to a ROM using build 19199.1.0.0. Since then I had no hard resets at all (I am running CRCs PHK v12 Release 9 for about 2 weeks now).
Maybe this works for you as well.
Cheers,
Uli
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I was hoping someone would release the 19202.1.0.0 build since it has the updated GWES...
After 24hours with Faria-R32 Clean version. I did not have any freezing syndrome. This is after I flashed with a Dopod Official ROM. I only got the freezing syndrome by flashing 1.54 Radio ROM.
My next move is to use a different RUU for flashing.
My Faria 6.1 also hard-resets and locks up
I had just recovered from a previous hard reset and read all posts in this thread and the other one currently dealing with this topic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=370185), and had gone down to a previous ATT radio rom and switched off SD power management out of desperation, when my Hermes locked up again. This time, however, after two soft resets (stylus induced) I managed to get it running again. Everything seemed to be in the previous state (all my preferences had been preserved), but I found that all contacts, history and calendar items had gone.
I had installed no other software than the network wizard. I had recovered most information from Outlook and the rest from Pimbackup (which by the way keeps crashing when restoring speed dials in 6.1).
As this must be the 6th hard reset in 6 days, I think I'm going back to Schap's good old 6.0 and wait for a solution.
BTW Don't take me wrong: I'm extremely grateful for all the great work done by the various cooks.
Lockups
I thought I was going crazy;my 8525 would lock up an have to be soft reset and when it came back, the contacts would all be gone.
I use Yahoo!Go to sync my contacts. I use Photo Contacts Pro for my contacts manager. I was trying to figure out if it was either of those causing the problem.
I even have a thread going on Microsoft's windows mobile forum about this.
I get NO answers from anyone. I'm running Schaps 4.30 OS and Radio 1.54.07.00. I have a 2gb sd card that I run a few apps from.
You just described the same problem I have. Thank you for confirming my limited sanity!!!
tjlabais said:
I was hoping someone would release the 19202.1.0.0 build since it has the updated GWES...
After 24hours with Faria-R32 Clean version. I did not have any freezing syndrome. This is after I flashed with a Dopod Official ROM. I only got the freezing syndrome by flashing 1.54 Radio ROM.
My next move is to use a different RUU for flashing.
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If i could get hold of the 19202 source I would probably post a clean naked version for testing....but alas no such luck. Naturally it would help had i got a source for new ROM builds lol!
mrvanx said:
If i could get hold of the 19202 source I would probably post a clean naked version for testing....but alas no such luck. Naturally it would help had i got a source for new ROM builds lol!
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I totally agree with you... when I cooked ROMs for the XDA Atom, I didn't want to work with none official ROMs because I wouldn't know what has been altered in the adopted device.
Hello,
Recently my device got hanged (and still is hanging on a process - filesys.exe with 100% cpu usage )
I have tried alot of things to get my device back up on its feet but failed. I hard reset the device back to its default ROM - 1.25.707.2
After the hard reset, my device was still showing filesys.exe at 100% cpu usage.
I have a full SPB backup (past 9 days) and sync to my laptop now.
My laptop is using Windows Vista & im using WMDC.
I wish to flash my P800W to any latest ROM's out there, preferably official ones. I read up regarding the CID but got stuck when I ran USPL and a white screen on my device. I am from Malaysia ( Asia ) and bought my unit in June 2006.
Actually now im risking all my data & sms's (very important) and moving to new ROM in hope of solving the filesys.exe problem.
I am in a dire situation now and any help would be appreciated
My friend suggested the shops for repair but thats my last resort as I know that they will just hard reset the thing.
Can someone who has done this before point me a in proper direction for minimal data lost
THANKS!
I am currently running Gen.Y D2 on my diamond and it sometimes gets frozen during random actions such as trying to open up a web browser. When this happens, I am left no other solution than to remove the battery of my phone and place it in again. Usually, when I reset my phone this way, the whole phone does a hard reset, and I have to go through the whole phone welcome process again. Is there anything in particular that I may be doing wrong? I am using the newest HardSPL too...
yes, look this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508991
I had same problem,but after "flashed back" to htc official rom and reflash with cooked rom all problem resolved and internal storage formatted.