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Hi,
I am looking for cable that I could use to connect my JasJar PDA (USB mini port) with GPS (USB mini port) and car lighter. This cable should transmit data between PDA and GPS. Also it should power PDA and GPS from car lighter socket. Look at attached picture for better explanation.
Do you know where I could buy it?
Best regards
Marek S
Cześć!
Myśle, że nawet jeśli masz taki kabel, to będziesz mieć problem. And there my Polish runs out!
(trans: Even if you had such a cable, you'd still have a problem).
Or at least I would assume so... Even if you made a mini usb to mini usb cable with power spliced in from a car adapter (easy enough to do after all) then you would still have the problem of persuading your pda to use the usb connection for rx/tx gps data, which I would have thought was a drivers problem...
Anyone?
Hi,
As I read on some forum this device can work as USB host and WM 5.0 has many drivers also for GPS devices. Is that true? If it is, problem how JasJar will communicate with GPS is not a problem. The problem for me is that I cannot make that cable myself and I need sombody help.
Best regards
Marek S
Sadly, this device cannot act as a USB host... I am frankly disappointed that they decided not to implement it, but I guess there always has to be a reason to upgrade to the next model!
I'm afraid I don't know about WM05's support for GPS devices connected via USB, although I think I have read in other threads that people have tried without success to connect GPS receivers to their Universals.
I bought a BT gps receiver to use with mine, and am hoping to cover the cost of that when I sell my IIs, wired gps receiver, cradle etc. One thing that attracted me to the Holux that I bought is that it can apparently be used as a gps mouse if you buy the optional cable - a usb to usb mini that has a curious small plastic junction box halfway along it's length. I assume that there is some form of jiggery pokery going on in there (like swapping the 2 data lines or grounding something ) because I certainly can't connect my receiver to a laptop with a normal usb to usb mini cable.
Sorry I can't help more, but I think you may be stuck unless you can find someone locally who'll chop up some cheap cables for you to experiment with... :?
I am wondering whether if you got a Minu USB to USB B, plugged it into a cheap powered/unpowered hub, the to the GPS would it work?
If it is a cheap hub, when powered, it may have the 5V rails joined, in which case the power might run back to the universal.
However, before testing this, it would be wise to test that the USB can work with teh GPS on its own. If you do not have a mini USB A to mini USB A already and tested (I couldn't see such cables) then www.maplin.co.uk could supply you with the following, which would/should provide you with a connection if it is at all possible:
mini USB A to USB A (Standard with universal surely?)
Female USB A to USB B
Female USB B Female USB A
USB A to mini USB A (Standard with universal)
That is a lot of cables
This cable should transmit data between PDA and GPS.
WHy on earth would you want that?
JaySea said:
This cable should transmit data between PDA and GPS.
WHy on earth would you want that?
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Once you can prove that the PDA can connect to the GPS that way (one of the posters was not particularly positive on that) then the addition of the HUB would allow you to put the power onto the cable.
Gareth
kabel...
Hi Marek,
This is not going to work for DATA but this kind of cable may work to charge both JasJar and BT gps. Log in to www.allegro.pl , find covox in "szukaj użytkownika" go and buy the BT gps with the mini usb port (like G-Space GS-R238) and solder in second usb mini cable into the included car charger .
thats all...
This should charge both....ordered one and am waiting for it, doubt it'll sync though.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/Motorola-Blueto...yZ108660QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I've bought one of the adaptors to allow normal headphones to be plugged into my XDA Orbit. What I'd like to do is plug a mini USB extension into the XDA then on the other end plug the adaptor in. Ideally it would be 2m long and obviously be male - female. The main reason is that my adaptor lets me charge my XDA up aswell and I don't want lots of cables in front of me. So i'll plug the extension in and run it into my glove compartment, were I'll plug in my fm transmitter and car charger.
Hope this makes sense, i've spent ages googling to try and find one but i've had no luck, any ideas?
I was also searching for one of these and failed. Post back here if you succeed.
Mini-USB extension cable
I found a single source at
http://www.pc-mobile.net/gugf.htm. It's item number CMUE about half way down the page.
I also found some folks who seem to be prepared to make almost anything at http://www.cypressindustries.com/contact/index.html
Best regards,
Steve
3 in 1 USB Adapter HTC TyTn P3300
There is such interesting device:
HTC 3-in-1 USB Adapter
Features:
11pins to 11pins HTC adapter, with USB port and 3.5mm Stereo Head Jack, you can connect to your own headphone or amplifier for audio and the USB port, you are able to charge the device via USB cable at the same time.
Support :
HTC P4350/HTC Herald/Dopod C800/Dopod C858
HTC Trinity/HTC P3600/Qtek P3600/Orange SPV M700/Dopod D810/Dopod CHT9100
O2 XDA Orbit/HTC P3300/HTC Artemis/Qtek G200/Dopod P800W/Dopod M700/T-Mobile MDA Compact III/Orange SPV M650
O2 Xda Cosmo/HTC Excalibur/HTC S620/T-Mobile Dash/Dopod C720W
HTC S310/HTC Oxygen/Orange SPV C100/Qtek 7200
O2 XDA Trion/MDA Vario II/Cingular 8525/i-mate JASJAM/Qtek 9600/HTC TyTN/Dopod CHT9000/Orange SPV M3100/Vodafone 1605/Dopod 838Pro
HTC MTeoR/HTC Breeze/Dopod 595/Qtek 8600
Of course I can not say if it's working flawlesly with all listed devices, but with my HTC P3300 (Artemis) it works great.
I received one extra adapter as a present, so if you are in the Netherlands and interested to have it, I can sell my second adapter for 10 EUR. Please PM me with the suggestions and offers.
Mini USB extension cable
I had the same problems finding a mini usb extension. Then e-bay came to the rescue! This guy
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/techno_toys/
has just what you need, a 1m long mini usb extension cable for less than £10.00 !
Cheaper and faster than waiting for it to arrive from Hong-Kong
Bill Kelly
Thanks all, google a mini usb extender and this was the first thing that came up. Can't believe these cables are so rare!
FYI my supplier was Keven from Techno Toys on ebay UK http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZtechno_toys
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches.
also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
Thanks!
Ray_jai said:
those links you posted don't have USB mini female to USB mini male.
I only need it to be 3 inches. Also, would that 3 in 1 work for my wizard?
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This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
plinkykev said:
This is a link to the current listing (as of 11 Feb 08):
mini usb extansion cable on e-bay
3 were listed, but 2 have already gone. They are 1.2m long too, not the 30cm that you need, but maybe you can cut/re-solder it? They are pretty rare though, so not sure I would risk it!
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These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins. Not only that, they dont actually fit together as a male extusb is a slightly different shape to the female regular miniusb. Obviously Female Extusb to male miniusb would work, but this cable is the wrong way round for that.
made my own
I was also looking for one to use in my car. Couldn't find any so I made one. Used a vga cable, cut the htc usb charger/2.5 headphone splitter that came with my touch, and soldered the cables together. I'll post pics tomorrow if i get a chance. Btw, i got lucky, because while trying to solder one of the last cables, the yellow cable that connects to the end of the 2.5 headphone jack came off. Luckily, it wasn't the cable that was for left or right channel.
I couldnt find an 11 core cable small enough to look good. VGA cable isnt too thick though... tempting.
pics of htc supplied usb to usb/2.5 extended
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
Schooleydoo said:
These wont carry the audio though. They are only 5 pin and carry data only. Ive got one of these cables and the 3 in 1 adaptor. The adaptor is extusb and has 11 pins, and this cable is regular usb with only 5 pins.
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OK, sorry, I had used it OK with my Motorola phone, and that did the audio OK. Didn't realise there were more pins in the PDA cable.
11 pin extension cable
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
Here is another source for Mini USB Extension
Man are these cables ever hard to find. I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has 2m (6ft) and 3m (9ft) versions, all USB 2.0 compatible: kabelbaron on ebay I think he ships worldwide, too...
(I think you can also get to his recent items through http://www.kabelbaron.de).
Eggbert said:
I have been looking for such a cable for a long time since I recently found this other guy on ebay. He has...
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They look like standard 5 pin extensions to me.
People in this thread are looking for extUSB extenders that have 11pins.
Ray_jai said:
Nice, I wish i had soldering skills. everytime i try to solder, the solder never bonds.
I tried heating up the wirers, but the solder always bonds to the tip or combine with the solder coil again.
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What works for me is to melt a tiny bit of solder on the tip, then touch that melted solder to the wires. It will transfer heat to the wires and you can add more solder from another angle. Wipe the tip on a wet sponge after every use. This leaves a thin layer of clean solder on the tip. If you let the tip go uncleaned for too long it turns totally black and conducts heat poorly. If you buy tip cleaner you can sometimes get the black off.
Also, if you have tiny things to connect and little space to work, put a bit of solder on both things first, then touch them together and the heat will transfer into both of them, melting them together. Keeping them steady after you pull the tip away is key to a strong join. If they're trying to pull apart as the solder cools, the solder will look more dull than shiny and be easy to break.
Also, be absolutely sure you get 63/37 (63% tin, 37% lead) solder instead of lead-free because lead-free doesn't melt till a much higher temperature and that's more likely to damage your electronics. Also, I could barely melt the lead-free solder with three different irons I tried and it was very hard to make it bond to things.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solder for more.
[email protected] said:
how many wires are needed for power and Stereo?
I am Guessing 1 for right, 1 for left, 1 for Power, and for ground. I am asking because I want to make my own, but I do not want a big diameter cable.
I have the 3 in 1 splitter, so it has everything I need except for length. Is a 4 wire cable all it really needs?
Anyone?...
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USB power uses a +5V and ground pin on the top row.
Audio uses 3 more pins along the bottom: left, right, and audio ground. There's also two mic pins along the bottom you might want to tap into.
See http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=ExtUSB
I found a good source for mini usb extensions of all kinds. This site really was the best site for USB and Firewire cables. I got mine today.
Edited: This cables are 5pin, just for data and power not for audio.
http://www.usbfirewire.com/
I want my in ear headphone to connect to my phone but it uses mini usb, so i have brought a mini usb connector end from a computer shop in town, ive got a old set of headphone to cut up but what pins on the connector do i soilder the wires to???
The plug for the headphones is not a standard mini-USB.
You need a headphone adaptor lead from eBay or somewhere.
I know mate, i need to know what pin on the phone runs the sound then i know what pins to connect my wires to on the usb connector and my earphones.
Custom earphones to usb
1. leave the usb plug alone, the first possible point to grab analog audio is the mic/volume slider combo.
So, either pry open the small mic/volume slider box and solder your new headphone cables into that (make sure to remove the isolating paint from the wires (e.g. by burning),
or open the original headphones and your new ones and just resolder the headphone cables - my recommendation, for usually being easier.
have fun
WELSHDRAGONRACING said:
I want my in ear headphone to connect to my phone but it uses mini usb, so i have brought a mini usb connector end from a computer shop in town, ive got a old set of headphone to cut up but what pins on the connector do i soilder the wires to???
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i remember seeing an article on one of the PPC websites 6-12 months ago when the artemis was still a new device. the article showed step by step instructions with photos and even specified the components required.
unfortunately, i can't remember where i saw it (sorry) but at least you know it exists and with a bit of help from our google friends, you may be able to find it.
Hi. I have the following problem: the miniUSB jack, the pins are bent. I can charge the cellphone, but activesync does not work, windows recognizes the device as an unknown device. I do not know how I see the the pins are properly bent. Is there a trick? I hope you can help me. Pascal
Same Problem, USB Jack pins for charging bent
I got a used Prophet from a customer wich doesnt charge
or sync's to Active Sync.
I recognized the two bent Pins and the task is now:
does any one know where to get a new USB jack?
I will solder it in my selfe but i need the partnumber of these
usb jack or i have to finde an identical one. (maybe I disassamble
one of the dead Prophet's in my collection ;(...) but getting this SMD
usb jack off the Mainbord without any damage is a bit difficult,
so i prefere a new part for these repair.
Does someone know where to get a
partlist / Boardlayout with partnames on it.
You need this
just correct it with the stylus .......
Insert the stylus or a toothpick to the port and straighten the 5th pin
cheers!!!
Aju
Quite a lot PDAs supporting USB-host, but for only a few an adapters or appropriate cables from the manufactures are available.
As these devices support USB-Slave as well I would like to know if there's a way to convert the USB male connector (used as slave e.g. for sync with the PC) to a USB-host female in order to connect accessories (keyboard, mass-storage devices...).
According to wikipedia the configuration of the pins shouldn't differ too much for slave and host mode.
Pls. see attachement, that's what I found regarding this question. It's a picture showing a similar configuration (as new user I'm not allowed to post external links, thanks to ab21cn
from xdaflameusers)
But it's a male-to-male converter and furthermore a converter from "big usb" to micro (mini?) usb. As there're already standard converters for the different sizes of USB I would like to start with the biggest size and to buy the appropriate converter as needed.
Does anyone has a circuit diagram or any other idea for such a generic converter?
Try adapters made for Nokie N800 series
I had a Nokia 770 a couple of years ago. It came as USB device only with mini USB connector, but online I found how to upgrade the software to USB host, and use a cable adapter. The plans I found online involved a 9V battery and 5V voltage regulator inside a metal case (they used a penguin mints case). I built one of those, even using the penguin mints case, and it worked fine.
I have never seen any indication that my HTC phone would work the same, but I am guessing that it might, if the USB host drivers are available.
Google couldn't locate the penguin mints-based converter I originally found, but this seems to be a similar circuit diagram.
Edit: Found it!
thx
thanks for the links. but i'm a little bit afraid of connecting something to my pda which has an own power supply, the risk of a burn-out is given. i've got a nautiz x5 with 4400mA battery which should have enough energy to supply usb-power to connected devices.
I think I'm going to contact the manufacture of my device, maybe this works for me, but a generic adapter would be of use for anyone.
the chips used for usb should be of the shelf as i don't think each manufacture develops an own logic for usb... but this doesn't imply that the cabeling is standard too.
what the heck makes manufactures providing features in their products which the users can't take advantage of?
do you mean using keyboards and so on on ppc?
because it's so simple if ur phone has a mini usb plug (the one u plug the power adapter into). i found a cable that plug into that and plugs a normal usb cable in on the other side and blam been typing on my phone using a desktop keyboard. it depends how much power your device requires however. i wish there was some software to feed a video line out so i could watch videos on pair of vizors that wud be rad. all i can find is a mini-sd card converter now whats the point of that. guess i need an itouch
yes
primary i want to connect usb mass storage devices to my pocket pc. gamecontroller or keyboard would be a good thing too.
my devices doesn't have a standard usb plug, the only thing i got is a adapter from the properitary plug of my device to standard usb male connector, but this is meant for usb-slave use only.
the underlying qeustion is, if there's a way to convert usb-slave to usb-host using the same pins. if it needs an additonaly pin then i don't see a way to convert it as i don't know anything about the pins cableing of my properitary plug.
a week ago i found an adapter which was able to convert the male usb to another male usb... but it didn't work.
the problem is compareable to datatransfer between two pcs via usb - it's possible, but only using properiatry hardware and drivers...
so i think there's no way to solve this problem in a generic way.
out of interest, do you already have windows CE drivers for the device to act as a host and mass storage? I wouldnt mind them if you can point me somewhere..
how to check if my htc (touch2) ca use usb host?