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MDA III - Newbie Set-Up Confusion (MSN Messenger)

Hi,
picked up a shiny new MDA III yesterday afternoon having switched providers - number transfer in progress - so I'm new to both the handset and the provider.
Managed to get the unit hooked up to my home WiFi network pertty simply etc and got the Active Sync sorted etc.... other than the fact the GRPS isn't configured out of the box, I've got a single major bugbear to sort.
That is that I don't seem to be able to get MSN Messenger to connect.
It's exhibiting exactly the same symptoms suggested here.... http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;832515
... but obviously the refers to a previous OS version ?
So, either I have something to fix or unlock in the set-up, the port is blocked on the handset (works fine on my laptop on the same WiFi through the same firewall) ?
Had a search through the forums, but to no avail. Can anyone help me on this ?
Are there any recommended patches/fixes I should have installed straight from the off ?
Thanks in advance !
Matt

OK, just so you you don't think I'm totally clueless, from what I've just been reading in the T-Mobile online manual, I have to have the GPRS connection open to connect to Messenger.
Is this right ? Surely if I have a active WiFi connection is should be able to connect using that, right ? Will it connect via GPRS and then pass it over to WiFi ?
I'll have to check it when I get home to see if I can resolve it in that way.
Any other tips gratefully received !
Matt

I'm using Messenger with a CSD (GSM) connection because it's part of my allowance. Sorry but I haven't tried WiFi yet.

I'm having the same problem.
MSN Messenger works fine using GPRS but fails to login using my Wifi connection.
What's even weirder is that it works ok when docked (ActiveSync)!!!
I'm using MDA III on T-Mobile (UK)
Anyone got any ideas?

I've tried replicating this issue, but on my XDA IIs over WiFi, it connects to messenger no problem... it doesn't even try to initiate a GPRS connection first. I can only assume that the MDA III is configured slightly differently out of the box.
As a thought, you might want to double-check Connection Manager and see which type of connection is set for programs that automatically connect to the internet

Ok, home and finished doing the set-up.
I've found no way of using MSN by any other protocol than GPRS. If you are WiFi atached and attempt to use MSN, then it will drop the WiFi connection and instead pick up GPRS. And obviously you're on for .075p per kb... which might be the real answer in why T-Mobile have set-up the device in this way.
The 'programs that automatically connect to the internet' doesn't seem to allow you to select WiFi as the default connection, only the range of GSM/GPRS options and the 'My Work' one.
Should I use the 'My Work' VPN option and set that up to use WiFi ?
If anyonebody has got any tips on how to set or hack this... seems there are a few of us that might benefit !

Just out of curiosity: if you go into your WiFi manager, have you specifically told the device that the WiFi card in your MDA III connects you to "The Internet"?
I can't recall whether that was the default setting before I set up my wireless network connection on my IIs... it seems like such a no-brainer, but it could assume that your WiFi connection is to a work network etc.

I'm at work and it 's at home.... but I'm adamant that that it knows that the WiFi connection connects to the Intanet. As you say, I think that it is the default setting
However, I will check !
Any other MDA III owners shed any light on this ?

Windows Live (connection) problems

Hi there,
I noticed Windows Live messenger also connects through gprs (when configured under connections), when a wireless lan connection is available. Internet Explorer works fine, and doesn´t try to connect through gprs when wifi is available and enabled. This sucks big time.
Besides this I wonder if there is already a fix for disabling windows live messenger putting it´s contacts in the phone contact list??
Hope someone can help..
regards,
DM

Windows Live defaults to gprs. Just disconnect gprs, then sign in and when it starts connecting to gprs, hit cancel. As long as you do have wifi connected it will use that.
I think MS had to make it use gprs to keep the networks happy to include it.
The sync issue hasnt been resolved in the latest live - it is an option to merge dupes but it doesnt seem any better

unwired4 said:
Windows Live defaults to gprs. Just disconnect gprs, then sign in and when it starts connecting to gprs, hit cancel. As long as you do have wifi connected it will use that.
I think MS had to make it use gprs to keep the networks happy to include it.
The sync issue hasnt been resolved in the latest live - it is an option to merge dupes but it doesnt seem any better
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Thank you for replying. This wasn´t the case with WM5 and pocket msn.
Also, why does internet explorer not have this issue? It really sucks. the solution you´re saying, doesn´t work for me. It keeps trying to connect while a wifi connection is working for Internet explorer.

When it did this on mine, I would use connection manager to stop the wifi connection and then start it again, and then, mysteriously, it would stop trying to connect the gprs. Worth a try?

My windows live never successfully connects through 3G/GPRS always times out. Works through wifi no problems, and internet works fine through 3G/GPRS.
Any ideas??
S.K.

Marisa, thanks for your reply. Your suggestion works for me only occasionaly. I´m thinking of removing live messenger completely. Is there a way to do this? I installed it on the clean LVSW ROM of 26 march...
regards,
DM

does anyone know how I can uninstall live messenger from wm6? thanks

@dmxl
re-install the OS only that is your best bet to remove the MS Live messenger. that is what i did on my device to get rid the MS Live messenger and i never do that install again.

otoro_315 said:
@dmxl
re-install the OS only that is your best bet to remove the MS Live messenger. that is what i did on my device to get rid the MS Live messenger and i never do that install again.
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Thanks for your reply. That's terrible!! Haha. Any good alternatives for Instant messaging?

VPN over WIFI

Hello All!
I have a problem:
- need to connect to VPN through WIFI.
I'm running WM5 AKU3.5 Rom, UNI \ Qtek 9000.
With the built-in VPN client I CAN connect to VPN, but the first request to internet (via browser or Messaging send-receive) - drops my VPN connection, as it described here in the forum (Networking).
I tried 3-rd party software so far:
1. BlueFire VPN - just can't connect.
2. Antha VPN - just doesn't work.
Any solution so far?
Did anybody succeed with it?
Thank you very much for your answers!
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* crosposted and more details in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1685027#post1685027
** Let me describe in more detail:
In my case- this is a public WIFI internet provider, which has a wifi coverage in the city: GoldenWiFi.
Wifi is open PPTP. I need to type in a login \ pass on the web page I get, to start using the internet in current wifi session.
The ALTERNATIVE way to conect to internet - is to establish a VPN connection over the wifi.
I can successfully do in on the laptop, but not with my UNI.

WM5 has some bugs in PPTP implementation and there are problems connecting to VPN servers other than Microsoft ISA. I've spend couple of hours trying to connect my universal to poptop (linux pptp server which is quite popular) and it was imposible using mschap-v2 (which is required for security reasons). WinXP stations are connecting fine to the same VPN server. Poptop is included in many linux embedded devices (access points, wireless routers) and I think that this is your problem.

What version of bluefire did u use, I tried a nwe one which didn't work, but I got an old trial version that still works (most of the time)

Bonusbartus said:
What version of bluefire did u use, I tried a nwe one which didn't work, but I got an old trial version that still works (most of the time)
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Hello!
I used v. 2.7.2.558
Thank you for your reply.

I use anthaVPN-7.5-STD-Cisco-wm2005.exe, and in "settings/connections/advanced" selected both networks to be "work network".
Everything works fine.

I sent u a pm about bluefire

Live Messenger on SFR Diamond

I've got a diamond of SFR pack of france. i didn't find windows live programs so i tried many cabs i can found (include 10.6.39, 10.6.34 and 10.6.32 on this site). but, unfortunately, none of them works on my phone. (windows live works stucks/verylow cannot sign in and messenger cannot start)
the only one who works is the official 10.6.0040 with i downloaded on mobile.microsoft.com, but it doesn't have a messenger in it.
what should i do? flash another rom or who can give me a cab which can works on a SFR packed Diamond.
thanks in advance.

Some additional infos:
the version 10.6.34 works fin on my HTC P3600. i've tried it and messenger get connected with USB Cable.

x_sliver said:
I've got a diamond of SFR pack of france. i didn't find windows live programs so i tried many cabs i can found (include 10.6.39, 10.6.34 and 10.6.32 on this site). but, unfortunately, none of them works on my phone. (windows live works stucks/verylow cannot sign in and messenger cannot start)
the only one who works is the official 10.6.0040 with i downloaded on mobile.microsoft.com, but it doesn't have a messenger in it.
what should i do? flash another rom or who can give me a cab which can works on a SFR packed Diamond.
thanks in advance.
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flash it...you know you want to

Same thing for me it don't work on SFR network
it try to install WindowsLive.PocketPC_50_arm.cab but it don't work too
What can we do ?
Thx

just work on wifi
but not in 3G or GPRS

SFR uses a proxy? Disable it. Try setting up an internet connection just by APN.
I have the same issue with Vodafone. Just uncheck 'this connection uses a proxyserver'.
Be sure though, that there are not going to come more data-costs!
Here, the only disadvantage is that vodafone LIVE is not working without the proxy ... but ... whatever

hi, i've tried wifi and usb, it doesn't work. the problem is Windows Live can't be started. so i flashed the 1.93.456 WWE rom. it has a 10.6.0039 version of windows live, i tried it, works on usb.
but this rom doesn't have a AGPS settings (but we can enabled it by Advanced Config software), and has a QuickGPS.

i already try the 10.6.0039 version of windows live
it doesn't work
can't use my e-mail box on TF3d T-T
have you got the link for the 10.6.0040 version ?
thx

try on 10.6.0040 doesn't work
need help

Go to start>settings>connections>open connections>click on <set up my proxy server>and uncheck <This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet
Try it and let me know...

It Doesn't Work

liamhere said:
flash it...you know you want to
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i agree...lol....its the best solution for all probs and only gets better...hehe

already flash with the euro rom 1.37... + Radio v1.00.25.05

SFR sucks when it's about Windows Live, this module is deleted from Windows mobile for EVERＹ PHONE they sell. Maybe because of the cooperation between Windows Live and Orange, maybe they just want you to pay more to get the service.
Wifi should work with messenger i think

I can share my two cents about that matter.
SFR deliberatly block the TCP ports used by the MSN protocol and also the SMTP and POP3 ports (and maybe others I'm not aware of) in the wapsfr gateway to force us to use their own applications. One java app to do MSN chat (available on the wap site for the phones recognized by the wap gateway) but each message sent is billed (I don't rmember how much).
The only way to use these apps via GPRS/UMTS network is to subscribe the SFR WEB option and connect using the "web SFR" network.

Yeah, you can't use msn with wap. What you can do is using their own application, messenger by sfr. I must admit It's just bull****, but it works.
Here it is (it's a java application ) :
http://rapidshare.com/files/133142085/mbysfr.jar
Btw, you can't zoom... put your glasses on
Either you have to suscribe to waeb sfr as tns said, and it'll cost you a lot

weird windows live messenger issue please help

I've got my Touch 2 pro a few days ago, loving it so far apart from one really annoying issue.
I can't seem to sign into windows live messenger!
whenever i try it gives me :
Windows Live is temporarily unable to connect. You may be out of coverage for data connections.
what I've tried so far is:
when I connect to WIFI in my house - it connects fine.
disconnect from wifi and try again - fail - same message.
all this time I'm showing a full strength HSDPA connection - 4 bars.
I can surf the net using opera and IE, can use apps like youtube and facebook.
I took my new T-mobile sim out and put it in my old HTC Wizard - after reconfiguring the settings I can connect fine, surf the net and connect using the messenger app.
put in my old O2 sim which still has active data connection into my touch2 pro, tried to connect with this - same message.
tried a soft reset - same.
tried a hard reset - same.
phone t-mobile and verified I have unlimited data package (web & walk combi 30), confirmed with this this is full data and not just http.
all seems to be pointing to the client installed on my touch2 pro, yetI can't understand why it would work over wifi and when connected via activesynch yet not over my phone data connection.
Any ideas/insight would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know where I could find another copy of Windows live messanger to install and test?

Fixed
after finding and reinstalling the new version of windows live, flashing the rom etc still same.
The culprit turned out to the auto network configuration settings. It had put on a proxy server. Disabled this and it's now working fine.
Weird. but fixed at least!

I have the similar issue, can you please shed some more details as to what I have to do to disable proxy server.

Sure,
Go to Start > Settings > All Settings. Hit the connections tab and click connections. Go to manage existing connections. Click the proxy settings tab. disable the "this network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet".