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before i update to black 2.5 i hope these programs will still work.any FeedBackplease

i really want to upgrade to wm 6.
my htc tytn does seem to run slugish with wm 5.(i have done some updates)
i use the USA cingular network
rom 1.18.255.3
radio 1.35.00.11
protocol ver 32.68.7020.10h
extrom ver 1.18.255.106.
i have done a lot of searching on the forum and have seen some programs have problems. some of these have fixes like slingbox.
i want to make sure that these programs will work after the black 2.5 upgrade. so far black 2.5 seems to be the main one people like.
here is a list of programs i am worried about.
any feed back would be great.
thanks
1.sling box. (will all ver of sling box work witht the patch? what made it stop working? would that effect any other programs?)
2.tomtom ver 6 (i really hope this works still)
3.google earth
4.vnc
5.bluetooth gampad
6.webcamera plus/cool camera
7.Implus

read the wiki and do some searches before posting a new thread please

i have read the wiki for a lot of things and the many new rom updates
and read and searched a good handful of threads.
i am not asking for anything big
just a small yay or nay. on some of the listed programs.
so hence the new thread.

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2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 ?
6 Yes
7 ?

If you actually took the time to read for a while you'd know that with any ROM some apps will be buggy, and then along comes some fixes. Stick with WM5. If you don't have time to investigate what you're getting into, don't waste your time flashing a new ROM unless you know before-hand that you're gonna run into problems. How about this. Try a ROM, add the apps you want. If you run into problems work through them like EVERYONE else, because your configuration wont be the same as someone else's, and IF YOU TOOK THE TIME TO READ THREADS you'd already know what apps are buggy with WM6, and the ones not listed you can add if you experience a problem. That's how the whole problem/fix thing works. Sorry. I'm just sick of these threads everyday from people wanting to know some magical setup or which ROM is TEH BESTEST cause they just want a finished product and don't care about the learning process. When you make the jump to flash your device, you become a "tester" like everyone else. It's not rocket science, but it's not finger paints either.

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1 ?
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
5 ?
6 Yes
7 ?
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cool thanks
ronfin44,
i "READ" the posts i know there are bugs.(hence the question on the programs)
why would i risk a bricked phone or waste any extra time if some one else has already found out the needed info. most of the programs i asked about are some what common. it would not be so crazy to think there are a few people here that have tried and have some feed back.
based on the feed back i will decide if i want to go farther.
is it too much to come up with a risk analysis before committing to a project?
my god if asking for some feed back on a small list was such a sin why even have a forum.

"Risk annalysis". When you decide to do something like this there's a risk, but an app that may not be "buggy" for one, may be "buggy" for another. Try 2.5, load your apps, and see if everything runs fine. It's usually not the apps that cause problems but the development of the ROM, ie a ton of fixes that follow once one has been released. The apps with a history are posted ALL over this forum. If you haven't seen any of yours then why not try the ROM and see? It's not magic. If you run into a problem, post it and we'll help ya work it out. The forum gets cluttered with so many threads asking questions that could be answered by hanging around and doing a lot of reading and using the search feature. I know the search function isn't perfect, but it works.
Advice; load 2.5, load your apps. Good luck. If you run into some problems, check the 2.5 thread FIRST for an answer, if not, POST IN THAT THREAD about the problems you're having with THAT ROM and people will be happy to help. It just keeps the forum cleaner.

I can report that IM+ 4.3 works without crashes or any downtime, although it drains the battery like a mofo (didn't on WM5), it works 1000x better than it ever did on my 8125 with WM5.0.
Edit: other versons of im+ 4.9 ect. will crash / lock up your hermes on WM6.0 roms so be aware you MUST use 4.3 or higher.

Camera not saving pictures to folder?

Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
Thanks in advance.
Fucawi

The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.

The flo thingy is ok, but not enough to get pants all knotted about. The camera would be useful to make best use of the picture contacts facility. I never used the camera much anyway as it wasn't that good. I suppose I can take piccies on a proper camera and pop them onto the card.....no huge loss really.

Fucawi said:
Perhaps I'm being a numpty, but I can't get the camera to save pictures!
I start the camera, zoom, focus and press the button. The viewfinder freezes for a second and then the toolbar appears at the bottom, giving me all options except saving the picture. A quick view in the My Picture folders doesn't yield a picture. If they are saved where are they and if not saved, then what is going on?
WM6 with B&B v4.0 on O2 XDA Orbit
Thanks in advance.
Fucawi
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hello,
i have also a orbit and i can save my fotos on the storage card. There is a new folder called DCIM. The fotos and videos will be storaged there.
I have the same problem if i want to save a contact foto. this function doesn`t work.
But you can shot a normal foto and select this in pocketcm as contact foto.
Marcus

MaskedMarauder said:
The camera in B&B4 is pretty much screwed beyond use. Tom is too busy making money from the sycophants by writing the next ROM to do anything to fix this one, which has a list of problems as long as the contributors to his Pay-Pal account. If you want touch-Flo though it is about the best your going to get.
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i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.

neilhhardy said:
i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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no sry, he is right.
its not like the camera bugs are minor things. these are major bugs, which are really annoying.
and yet, in the B&B 4 Thread, tom never replied to a post where something with the camera was mentioned. (correct me if i'm mistaken, but i read all 100 pages).
And now hes doing a new rom, so i don't see a fix for B&B 4 coming :-/

neilhhardy said:
i would like to say something on this matter.
Tom has been busy trying to answer all the Questions thrown to him. you are complaining your **se off but i bet you have BB installed, give the guy a break and show some respect to the people who are trying to create a community here.
and next time think about your comments.
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I did install B&B4, I don't have it on now. And I did think about my comments. As for complaining my ass off, no, I don't think so. There is more I could complain about, much more, like the transcriber being missing, but won't because it is no longer a concern of mine.
I have respect for Tom for what he does but his latest ROM was rushed out, not fully tested, among shouts from people that they would donate if he got a Touch-Flo version out, other Touch-Flo ROMs were appearing, but were full of other stuff not everyone wanted and with minor operating problems like the 'X' close button not working etc. So people screamed for Tom's next ROM, and out it came. Complete with all the bugs reported so far.
If Tom chooses not to fix the bugs then that is fine by me, I can't use his ROMs if features of my device that I want to use don't work right. But Tom needs to be careful, up until recently all his efforts were for the community you want to build, but money can skew people without them realising it is happening. Perhaps if he sorted the bugs out then started looking for donations again....

no problems here...
@ Fucawi: Did you set your camera to save your pictures on your card? Then look in \Storage Card\DCIM\100MEDIA.
@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs. Personally I think your comment about Tom going for the money and not solving your problem is pretty cheap.
-Hans

This bug isn't reported entirely correctly, the camera does save pictures but only at the highest resolution. If you try and reduce the res then it doesn't save them. To be fair though if you really want a camera on your phone get a sony ericsson as HTC cameras are rubbish! Perhaps the fact that Tom is working on a new ROM suggests that he is going to implement all the fixes found for v4.0 in the new one therefore creating a fixed ROM... just a thought.

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@ MaskedMarauder: For some people not being able to save the pic as a contact pic isn't the end of the world. Thusfar the B&B rom has been working fine with a few minor bugs.
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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......

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That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.

MaskedMarauder said:
That is why there is a 1000+ post thread and half the posts are from people with problems......
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Equally a lot of the posts are people who haven't search for an answer or don't know how to flash a rom to their device.
I'll admit that tom's rom isn't faultless but compared to the dire GPRS issues in the Dopod rom and the general lack of anything exciting in the O2 rom it is still the best out there - unless of course you want your camera to work

The whole thing with the camera is a shame as the new camera looked nice with a clean interface, it is just a pity it does not work on anything but the basic setting.
And for the record the reason I gave up on B&B 4 was that I was having to continually hard-reset my device at least every other day. I did not go on about it, I just will wait the next version, put it on and see if it works.

I agree with MaskedMarauder
bb4 is full of minor faults.
and i just saw that Tom isn't going to repair all those faults.
that's why i go back to version v3.0
the last one that worked like it should have to.
And Tom never reply's when people ask him about the camera problems or other problems.
It's a pity.

Not having the contacts picture facility is not the end of the world and I have made do with the normal camera and save piccies to contacts. There were other niggles on the v4.0 ROM that made me try the v3.7 and the O2 WM6 ROM and I think that the BB v3.7 was the best of the bunch. They all suffered from an inability to turn off the WiFi from the top toolbar and v4.0 needed to have a soft reset to get the GPRS sync started in the morning. So I will reinstall v3.7 and run it for a few days.
I liked the clock face and the contacts, weather and other HTC toys, but could do with a blue colour rather than black (does this only require a .rar file?) and a reliable GPRS sync connection (no issues on WM5 O2 settings).
Keep up the good work.
Fucawi

hans-martijn said:
Right, of them is about 75% who refuse to read the first 1000+ posts, so they ask the same questions others have asked and resolved before, the other ones are in my opinion mostly pretty minor or feature requests.
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yes, i totally agree, it's not fine to read such a big thread...
and some of the issues have nothing to do with the main post.
that's what i don't like. There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function

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There are a lot of people who don't know that there is a "search"-function
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It also has to do with people not knowing how the search function works too and getting so many hits across all the forums that they give up with it.

Images and Video folders + streaming media

Good evening all of yours!
After many read threads, i make up my mind and start this new one cos i don t find find any good solution...
Is it possible via registry or an applicationto specify in the HTC launcher a particular folder for images and videos? I would like to open all the images and videos i record on storage card.
Then i found already things about the problem but no solutions really about the way to configure streaming media to open onlines videos like youtube and so on...
I had this configuration once after flashing rom and then i flashed again and i don t have it anymore!!
Thks for any answer!!!
Saker
WM6/Rom Faman 3.6Full/Radio 1.46/SFR/Wifi via Livebox Sagem Orange

saker777 said:
Good evening all of yours!
After many read threads, i make up my mind and start this new one cos i don t find find any good solution...
Is it possible via registry or an applicationto specify in the HTC launcher a particular folder for images and videos? I would like to open all the images and videos i record on storage card.
Then i found already things about the problem but no solutions really about the way to configure streaming media to open onlines videos like youtube and so on...
I had this configuration once after flashing rom and then i flashed again and i don t have it anymore!!
Thks for any answer!!!
Saker
WM6/Rom Faman 3.6Full/Radio 1.46/SFR/Wifi via Livebox Sagem Orange
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Does it mean that there s no interest or does nobody have an answer??????
a bit disapointed...
Saker

saker777 said:
Does it mean that there s no interest or does nobody have an answer??????
a bit disapointed...
Saker
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Firstly the second post from you is not a way to get attention, this is a forum and expecting an instant response is extremely arrogant.. please let people have a chance to see what your request is before coming back and wasting spacing on questioning why you were not answered. secondly i would hope that with your arrogance may come the miniscule amount of intelligence it takes to do a search.
So for the first part of your question
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"FileSyncPath"="\\Storage Card\\My Documents"
now all your images and videos will save to the storage card and will by default open from there. From here you should be able to figure out where you need to go in registry to tweak the default file locations.
AS for streaming I have no idea but I am sure that the internet connection you obviously have will yield a result thru some search engine...just like the 30 seconds I took out of my life to get the above result which you should have been doing yourself.

Hi Davidf!
Does your member status give you a bigger a.s than the other ones? cause my arrogance don t even deserve a good evening from you!!!!
I replied to my own post about 5 hours after because i m looking for a solution to this little problem since a while, and yes, was impatient to have a solution!
Thank you for your answer to my first question but you see, my post is not so useless as you are not even able to find a solution to the second one!!!!
And what do you reply to the new ones who keeps asking about the stuck with the bootloader after 1% doawnloaded??? do you shoot them up like you did to me??!!!!
Honestly i don t know who is the most arrogant beetwen us!! So i hoppe that you wont be bothered yourself one day with a little or big problem because if everyone starts to answer like you did, you wille be stucked a long time...
By the way, have a good night and take care
***Sorry for all the other persons who will read this but i think that there is perhaps a more gentle way to answer even if my questions were stupid!!!!***
Saker

SRS WOW

hey guys! is there a possibility to instal this with a .cab?

Yes, the .cab is in the development & hacking forum, just search in the title.

my experience
so here you are again with your new-thread questions
I'm not going to add more than anybody would say to you, but I have a story for you...
please check the attached pictures and then check the following link
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...S+WOW&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
PS1 I know that you will tell us now that you searched and installed the application but it didn't work...
PS2 No Personal Offence

farres said:
so here you are again with your questions
I'm not going to add more than anybody would say to you, but I have a story for you...
please check the attached pictures and then check the following link
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...S+WOW&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
PS I know that you will tell us now that you searched and installed the application but it didn't work... well I told you before that you are hopless.
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Someday on a different matter it will be me telling you that. Yes i searched but the results were a big mess and there wasn't a straight answer.
I know a lot about a lot of things, not about PDA's that's why I post the questions and the porpuse of helping foruns. cheers

farres said:
but I have a story for you...
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So, what's the story?

Regular search will not usually yield accurate results. Thats I use the below method to search!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298893

three things
1. it really pi***s me off when people say 'search' and flame you, did u ever think that search IS NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER AND DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK
2. in my experience srs wow makes mp3/wav ringtones really quiet and its better without in wm6, but it comes pre installed on a cooked rom but i dont know which one i have :S
3. i saw some huge list of cabs on 4shared i think in this forum (hermes wm6) i think i was searching slider sounds
HTH

Chill...
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three things
1. it really pi***s me off when people say 'search' and flame you, did u ever think that search IS NOT ALWAYS THE ANSWER AND DOES NOT ALWAYS WORK
2. in my experience srs wow makes mp3/wav ringtones really quiet and its better without in wm6, but it comes pre installed on a cooked rom but i dont know which one i have :S
3. i saw some huge list of cabs on 4shared i think in this forum (hermes wm6) i think i was searching slider sounds
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Whilst I do agree with you that the search isn't always accurate, I hope you do understand that as a developers' forum, there are tons of both, technical and non-technical issues that have been brought up.
Hence, when members tell you to search it, chances are they have either participated in the individual threads of have stumbled across the threads of discussion and know for certain, of its existence. I would advise using the google search function instead of the built-in search function on the forum.
That said, I do have a version of WOW SRS (Version 1.2.10.0) on my Hermes and it works like a charm and does not reduce the volume of my ringtones in any way. On the contrary, my experiences with it have been delightful in providing quality audio both, for ringtones and listening thru A2DP and wired earplugs.
My two cents worth.

Unless you're Big on connecting with an earpeice, don't even bother with srs wow; it kills the sound quality of ext speaker notifications

Just ordered, what mods etc should i get? im clueles!!

hey its being delievered on tuesday yaya
But what should i get for it?
I know youll link me to the stickies but im already readingh them and they don tell me what i need for my phone
So tell me, what mods are msuts for this phone?
Also what roms are recomended? And if i flash a rom does it affect the touch flow, aplications etc?
Cheers and any other info i should know. I hear i have to do some reg edit to use wifi at a decent speed??
thanks.

hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.

8igdave said:
hey also is it possible to get itunes on my phone so i can sync it with my pc and play all my itunes music? As currently alot of it is in itunes format and cannot play on other players.
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Id be interested in this too

NOOOOOBBBSSSS!! You just said it yourself, you must read the threads.
ROM issues you ust test outyourself, i can recoomend a rom, but possibly i'll have other way of using my phone than you.... look, read, test for yourself and youll see that this balckstone is quite a device.
Gr. Bram
ps. read this first, this will help you on the way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.

8igdave said:
So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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No, what you'll find is that all the information you most likely need is already on this forum somewhere. Take a day or two,search, read, look at the wiki, and you will be in a much better position to understand what you can do and want to do with your phone.
I did the above and have flashed custom roms, various applications, registry tweaks, edited dlls and what not and am now very happy with my phone.

Yeah i have looked through theese for days. But there is just so much, especialy when i know so little. It is very hard to pick out whats good and whats not.
I was hoping uses of HD touch could just post what they feel is the best things that they use. And from that i could work out what to use.
But it appears people would rather turn their nose up because i dont know anything about moding theese.

It's not that i dont want to help you with finding apps and mods and tweaks, or helping you understand your device better, it the way you assume that someone displays every app on a plate so you can install without breaking a sweat.
All apps that are around for the HD are fully reviewed and archived in the wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442663
This is a thread that you could have found easyly, since it's a wiki page and has been stickied in this subforum.
Also on the wiki, theres much info on upgrading and modding the HD's rom, search an you will find, not ask and takeoff without understanding.
We'd like to help if you have a problem, and you searched for it, and stated out what youve done by yourself to solve it.
The first thing youll have to do is find your own answers, then ask your question.
EDIT: In fact of the itunes music issue, you can play AAC files on the HD, this info i've found in the manual, RTFM!
Gr. Bram

i ahve looked through that several times actually. Ive identifyed some things. But generaly they arnt reviewed and ther is so many aplications that do the same job on there i dont know wahts best and i presume you guys do.
Its quite simple, i dont know whats good. You guys do, i ask instead of trawling through lists installing them all and trying them my self. Its not really unreasonable tbh. Ive never been met by so much hostility to a simple question that i presume is on everyones mind who gets a touch hd and is new to it all.
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also, what is manilla? i see it around alot.

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Search my friend, whats the main word that pops off your screen whan you search for manila? Yes, Its touchflo3d! Manila what the HTC codeword when they developed the app, and it still uses manila in the registry and such.
Gr. Bram

ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?

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ahh i see, so does that mean roms that dont have "manilla" in the title dont use touch flo 3d?
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Due to your evident experience level with HTC products I would suggest that you refrain from playin about with roms until you are at least onto your second device.. stick to easy to install software for the moment and gain an understanding of how your device works.

i would ahve thought there would be a guide i could follow and it all be fairly simple. I have flashed bios's on my pc, overclocked etc. Im not new to learning such things. I have just never done it on a phone before.
I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong? But yeah i will be getting used to the phone first before i do do any flashing. But i definitly intend of flashing the rom. I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.

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... I got this phone with the intent on playing around with it and learning about it all.
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Well... do that. Asking questions like "which apps should I install?" or "which ROM is the best?" doesn't make much more sense than asking "what is the tastiest food?" You will get as many different answers as there are people out there. In my oppinion this forum is for "how to do..." questions and not for "what to do..." - if you have any of the first kind, there is a good chance that someone will answer it.
As far as the ROMs go - every ROM more or less reflects the cooker's usage of the phone, so you WILL become 'flash-o-holic', because everyone has unique pattern of usage and you will think that the next ROM will be better suited for you, and the next one, and the next one... but the truth is that none of them is 100% tailored for you. My advice is - read carefully the sticky threads (there is a reason they are pinned above all else), always be sure you are not doing something irreversible and respect the work of others. And congratulations for the excelent choise of hardware .

Yeah i understand what your saying. Just like a direction to head at really.
Im going to try dutties first and seems to be very popular and i hear it speeds the phone up quite a bit.
And ahhh cant wait, so annoying i had to wait till friday to order it with weekend and bankholiday monday to wait! it was out of stock for weeks!

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I presume i can always reflash to the orginal if it goes wrong?
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If you dont know what you are doing you can turn your phone into an expensive paperweight..

mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?

8igdave said:
mmm ok, shall defo make suer i got a good guide to follow first.
Im currently trying to find out what "cabs" are exacly. I see them menchened everywhere but it doesn't appear to be given a definition in the wiki. Might have missed it though. Not really sure what to type in google as typing "cab" doesn't really give the results i want.
Anyone got any links to good guilds, how too's, how they got started etc?
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A .cab file is an socalled "cabinet file" wich is used in windows for ages to install stuff. In desktop windows you dont see them anymore couse they are camouflaged by a .exe of .msi file, but they are used still today.
On windows mobile, all programs are installed by cab, so basically for you, a cab is an installer.
Gr. Bram

ive been searching for months and still havnt found any decent programs, the software wiki is useless as it doesnt even tell you what half the programs are or do!

8igdave said:
So basicaly this isn't actually a forum to help people who dont know anything about it find out about apps which have been created by people here. How unhelpful.
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Okay, if you're going to be nasty, I'll return the favour. If you're going to buy something as technically advanced as the Touch HD, and you have no clue (your word) as to what to do with it, perhaps you should stick with a less complicated device.
Second, most questions have already been answered in these forums. Do a simple search. If that, too, is beyond you, then this site, and others like it, are too advanced for you.
Stick with a basic flip-phone and you should be happy.
(shaking his head)