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just out of curiosity...
do all you universal users willing to replace it with the i-mate ultimate 7150?
based on the initial specs is it worthy to ba a universal succesor?
ty
Jjjasjar said:
just out of curiosity...
do all you universal users willing to replace it with the i-mate ultimate 7150?
based on the initial specs is it worthy to ba a universal succesor?
ty
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the three things missing in uni were
1)external screen
2)quad band gsm radio
3)more ram
the 7150 corrects this and is in my opinion a logical upgrade
I do not see the external buttons for the phone command on this imate???!!!
too boxy for my liking, and the universal can be upgraded
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too boxy for my liking, and the universal can be upgraded
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can you elaborate on that???
i am yet to see a uni. with more than 64mb ram, quad band gsm and an external screen
upgraded in the sense of software, there's xda-developers and a great team of unofficial developers
i don't think i'm gonna replace my universal but if had the $, i'd buy the 9150
true sucessor
IMHO there are only two phones that could truly replace the thc universal:
1.) Samsung G900
2.) HTC Omni
The Specs are damn juicy, they faster and smaller than the HTC Universal and they have WVGA (800x600)
bitbonk said:
IMHO there are only two phones that could truly replace the thc universal:
1.) Samsung G900
2.) HTC Omni
The Specs are damn juicy, they faster and smaller than the HTC Universal and they have WVGA (800x600)
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1) its toshiba g900
wvga is 800x400
but in my limited experience with uni i can tell you that it is very hard to find software that supports vga...so you can imagine how bad the support for wvga would be...
fallenczar said:
1) its toshiba g900
wvga is 800x400
but in my limited experience with uni i can tell you that it is very hard to find software that supports vga...so you can imagine how bad the support for wvga would be...
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wrong again, according to the spec wvga comes in the following flawors:
720 x 400 (18:10),
800 x 480 (15:9),
848 x 480 (<16:9),
852 x 480 (>16:9)
864 x 480 (18:5)
Anyway both the toshiba g900 (yeah, not samsung ) and the HTC Omni come with a wvga (800x480) screen.
I don't know what apps you need/use but all apps that I need do support vga/wvga (such as MS Mobile Office, Mobile Opera, Acrobat Reader, NewsGator Go, Total Commander Mobile, Live Messenger ...)
let the sh*tstorm begin
look, I aint a bigger knower of things... but quite frankly- as of this moment the 7150 looks like a prime case of vaporware.
take a look....
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=721
It was slated for a April launch... now it's June release...
No working models reviewed, 3 month after announcement...
Only pictures out are the same screen, with 11:13 inside and 13:36 on external
this gives me bad flashbacks of the Moto MPx (true collectors piece now )
opinions?
(please prove me wrong!!!)
toshiba g900 has a small screen (3") and 64mb ram. hardly a successor!
this looks interesting, although its probably huge and will cost insane amount of money.
HTC SHIFT
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php
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HTC SHIFT
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php
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I want it!!!
i mean, i want a phone later on this year that has all of the above. ideally, a 4.7" screen with a 1280x720 res, SAMOLED screen, dual core, tegra2 gpu and so on.
all the above minus the higher res wouldn't be enough of an upgrade imo.
so, any higher res phones coming out? even the optimus x2 has the same res as my desire
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i mean, i want a phone later on this year that has all of the above. ideally, a 4.7" screen with a 1280x720 res, SAMOLED screen, dual core, tegra2 gpu and so on.
all the above minus the higher res wouldn't be enough of an upgrade imo.
so, any higher res phones coming out? even the optimus x2 has the same res as my desire
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i doubt it, the next logical step would be for an xvga device, (1024x768) but ive never heard of one. maybe you will find one with a higher dpi, like the retina display on iphones
that's it, i want a higher res display but can't get an iphone
You have to wait.
well, my contract's not up till november so hopefully someone out there(looking at LG, they seem to be pushing hard to be successful in this area now) will decide to tick off 'higher res' to add it to a 'better than the iphone 4' list
Motorola just unveiled Atrix 4G on CES. Phone is coming to AT&T and it has 540 x 960 (qHD) resolution.
And other specs also sounds nice - dual-core processor, 1GB of RAM, 1930mAh battery...
Dual core phones are right around the corner, they'll be here before November. However you won't find a phone with a 4.7 inch screen. The biggest will be the size of the Desire HD. The market isn't really big enough for phone companies to bring out a lot of massive phones and people are happy with the size they are now.
Look out for the PS phone, i think thats a 4" dual core phone. Lots of leaks on it.
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Dual core phones are right around the corner, they'll be here before November. However you won't find a phone with a 4.7 inch screen. The biggest will be the size of the Desire HD. The market isn't really big enough for phone companies to bring out a lot of massive phones and people are happy with the size they are now.
Look out for the PS phone, i think thats a 4" dual core phone. Lots of leaks on it.
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NO NO NO NO NO, just looking a the PS Phone makes me think back to the nokia N Gage , plus only 24 fps in neocore lol this year is going to be all about the nvida tegra II
I was wondering when this subject might finally come up here. In spite of the current trend for flagship phones to become bigger than ever, I still think the sweet spot is somewhere between 3.5" and 4.0". I wouldn't buy anything bigger for the full retail price - I'll buy a 10" tablet and a 13" to 15" laptop instead.
Ridiculously enough we're seing 800x480 pixels anywhere, stretched up to 5.0" and even more - and they call that HD (I mean: HTC Desire HD & HTC HD2 for example. Both great devices, but come on! You call that HD?). I don't want bigger screens; I want higher DPI and superior image quality! I said the next phone I'll buy would be 3.7" device with 1280x768 pixels (that would be the next logical step for Android super phones after the iPhone 4: same aspect ratio as before but 2.5x as many pixels and HD ready for real) but it looks like I'll have to wait a long time.
Somebody please tell HTC to produce something like that. I'll buy it instantly
4.7"?? That is hugeeee.
not for me, used to holding something large in my hand
anyhoo, i tried the dell streak and found that comfortable so a 5" phone would do me tbh
Dualcored proc, at least 1.5GB internal memory, independent GPU, at least 1GB RAM, micro SDCard slot, HDMI output, 2 Cameras, flash light, better battery life, etc. etc.
Those are the specs I hope for my next android smartphone....but 4.7 inch screen is not for me...Desire HD is already a bit too big (4.3").
Dell Streak and Galaxy Tab, I hate 'em...it is just too huge for a phone
Please delete my post. Captain Obvious doesn't need to retell every story.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
On top of the above specs. The radio needs to be wcdma or 3g over all 5 bands. That is the only iPhone 4 feature that impressed me.
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I don't think that right now there is a smartphone way better than HTC Desire,so I don't see a good reason to upgrade.I'm also willing to change it.I guess we will have to wait and maybe in the summer there will be one with something like thisual-core Quallcomm with Adreno 3xx,1Gb RAM,8-16 internal memory+microsd card,front-facing camera,better battery life etc.As for the display,the one on the Desire is ok for me,I never had quality problems,and it's size is perfect(Desire HD is way too big for me,I can't hold it firmly in my hand).Overall,I don't think all these are needed,the Desire doesn't have any lag(except the latest games like Dungeon Defenders),but if they are not present then I wouldn't justify an upgrade.
Btw,tegra 2 is not a gpu,it's a dual core cpu
tegra is a gpu solution but uses a A9 cpu along with it I believe its a standard that nvidia has set to be used with their gpu
It makes no sense for nvidia to make a cpu they are a gpu company
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Motorola Atrix, will have a besster resolution. looks very interessting. also with the laptopdock. htc doesnt have anytings in this class.
Thats a cheap phone, in america it costs just 180e new, but, in serbia used(one day) it costs 190-200e
i like this phone becoz he's small, 3,2" display with 320x480(hvga) resolution, 512(418) mb ram, and bad cpu, just 600MHz i can be overclocked on 800MHz, every clock over 800MHz will break cpu, gpu is adreno 200, i think this will be my first android phone, actualy i have nokia e52(600MHz, 128mb ram, symbian 9.3 fp2)
what u think about Wild S ?
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I think 'waste of money'.
I have mine only to use it as a 3G Modem - for Internet.
This phone is very weak like for 2011 year.
If you want to buy something, buy phone with supoort atleast Adobe Flash (from market - not through browser only).
It looks to be great terminal.... i think to change my x10 mini pro with this one... what do you think?
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"Engadget"
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Engaget, Mobile World Congress 2012, best of show: Best Smartphone HTC One X>>
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HTC Edge/Endeavor/Supreme (codenames) - Release name: HTC One X - Model Number: S720e
The HTC One X features a beautifully crafted polycarbonate unibody that has the ruggedness of metal but is super lightweight. With seamless construction, the unibody combines a unique high gloss 'piano' finish and a matte back. HTC One X is blazing fast with the new NVIDIA® Tegra 3 Mobile Processor for clear graphics, faster applications and longer battery life. It includes a 1.5GHz Super 4-PLUS-1™ quad-core with an integrated fifth Battery Saver Core and a high-performance 12-Core NVIDIA® GPU. The HTC One X also has an amazing 4.7-inch, 720p HD screen crafted from contoured Corning™ Gorilla Glass. HTC One X will also be available in select 4G LTE markets with a LTE-enabled Qualcomm Snapdragon S4™ processor with up to 1.5GHz dual-core CPU’s.
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Quad-core Tegra 3 processor + low power companion core 4-plus-1, Kal-Eli chip with ULP Gefroce GPU, AP33 1.5GHz / XMM6260
LTE version will carry the dual core snapdragon 4 krait chip @ 1.5ghz with Adreno225 - named One XL
Android 4.0 with Sense UI 4.0
4.7-inch display with 720p resolution, SLCD 2 @ 312PPI, Optical lamination makes the screen seem to float just below the glass with no space for air or dust
Gorilla glass 2.5D
Poly-carbonate Uni-body construction
1 GB RAM
Backlit 8 MP camera BSI backlight Sensor with f/2.0 lens, 1.3mp front cam plus ImageSense chipset
Beats Audio throughout the whole audio output
Slim, 8.9mm thick
Bluetooth 4.0
NFC with google wallet support
No SD slot
MicroSIM
32 GB internal storage
1800mAh built-in
HSPA+ 21 Mbps support
5-pogo-pin setup for a speaker dock, likely for the rumored Beats audio dock
Stereo microphones for noise reduction
134.36 x 69.9 x 8.9 mm
130 grams with battery
A minimalist "Iconic" design, made from Polycarbonate uni-body
- White version: matt front frame, piano gloss sidewalls, matt soft touch back, glossy silver camera frame and silver gloss HTC logo
- Grey version: matt front frame, piano gloss sidewalls, matt soft touch back, matt brushed camera frame and black gloss HTC logo
+ Curved 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves around the edges
Described by HTC's Scott Croyle:
The HTC One X begins with a beautiful crafted poly-carbonate uni-body, it got the ruggedness of metal but its super-light, the uni-body has authentic color through and through and it's super rugged, super durable. We thought a lot how to get the most out of this poly-carbonate uni-body and we began with seamless construction, the One X has this beautiful piano gloss edge around the perimeter of the phone and a matt back surface, it's the intersection of these two textures that creates a crisp surface break, it's this detail that really maximizes the precision and beauty of the material, we've taken this premium housing and combined it with 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves and flows over the edge, this phone feels great when you pick it up, in fact when i'm using this phone i'm always rubbing my finger around the outside surface, it really feels awesome, we've obsessed about the tiniest of details on the One X, a good example is the way we've micro drilled the speakers holes to reach that perfect edge, it's attention to detail like this that really sets it apart, i like to describe the One X by distilling it down to three basic ideas, piano gloss side walls, curved glass and a simple iconic camera detail, it's the whole design sysyncly described in three short phrases
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Leaked early Concept
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The HTC One S is for people who want a high-end smartphone in a more compact size. It is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 processor with up to 1.5GHz dual-core CPU’s. It also includes a 4.3-inch screen crafted from contoured Corning™ Gorilla Glass. HTC One S brings HTC’s innovative metal unibody styling to a new thin 7.9-mm design, making it HTC’s thinnest phone yet. The HTC One S sports two new finishes that break new ground in mobile phone innovation. The first is an ultra-matte black Ceramic Metal surface that is the result of a microarc oxidation (MAO) process originally developed for use in satellites. It transforms the surface of the aluminum unibody into a ceramic, super-dense crystalline structure that is four times harder than anodized aluminum, enabling the HTC One S to look great over time. The second finish for the One S takes anodizing to a new level with a new patented process that creates a light-to-dark gradient fade that looks gorgeous and sophisticated
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Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich)
4.3-inch qHD Super AMOLED display @ 256PPI, pentile matrix
1.5GHz dual-core Snapdragon 4 processor, New krait chip with Adreno 225 GPU
Backlit 8 MP camera BSI backlight Sensor with f/2.0 lens, 1.3mp front cam plus ImageSense chipset
[COLOR="Green)"]Gorilla glass 2.5D[/COLOR]
Beats Audio throughout the whole audio output
Metallic uni-body with crystaline ceramic metal finish
7.8m ultra thin
No NFC support
No Sd slot
MicroSIM
16GB internal
1650mAh battery built-in
HSPA+
130.9 x 65 x 7.8 mm
119.5 grams with battery
Classic HTC aluminium uni-body with new two different finishes:
- Black ceramic ultra matt "Micro-Arc Oxidized" finish with red accents, 4 times more durable than the old aluminium
- Dark to gray Gradient "patented" Anodized finish with blue accents
+ Curved 3D Gorilla glass, the glass curves around the edges
Leaked early Concept
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Tegra3: 40nm, 4 x ARM Cortex A9 w/ MPE @1.5GHz + 5th low power ARM cortex A9 companion core @500mhz, 1 x 32-bit LPDDR2 memory bus
Geforce++ GPU: 8 pixel units + 4 vector units, 2x/3x faster than Tegra2
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HTC official updates
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HTC One X: Ice Cream Sandwith 4.0.3 / Sense 4.0 > ICS 4.0.4 / Sense 4.1 > Jelly Bean 4.1.1 / Sense 4+ > JB 4.2.2 / Sense 5
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In my opinion both are great phones. In 2012 HTC will prove that is better than Iphone with these 2 babies. I don't know if i can afford one of these. I have to play in Euromillions.
Thx hamdir
hardcore4ever said:
In my opinion both are great phones. In 2012 HTC will prove that is better than Iphone with these 2 babies. I don't know if i can afford one of these. I have to play in Euromillions.
Thx hamdir
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by the way i would have gone with Ville if the screen was HD, i know they chose Amoled this time but really HD displays with over 300DPI density are something else
I'm hoping the Ville will sport a dual core snapdragon 4 instead of snapdragon 3 (the one in Sensation and the new Xperia series) which means improved performance and a better GPU (Adreno 225 or Adreno 305) HTC are the first to use new Snapdragons, so its a very high possibility
I predict HTC will announce the quad core snapdragon 4 device with Adreno320, six months after the release of the Edge, I'm not sure if the leaked Zeta concept are geniune
and to be perfectly honest i worry about the Tegra a bit, nvidia make speedy chips but quality :S i don't know... Tegra 2 wasn't really as massively fast as they advertised, Adreno 205 and 220 remained competitive
I absolutely love the Ville but sadly i won't be able to buy it ;с
To me, the successor to the DHD will be the Ville
I agree hamdir. Ville is ok, but if you look at the specs from that leak, it isn't much of an improvement to begin with. To me it's the same as Sensation XL. I have it and to be honest, I see absolutely no difference between it and DHD. Yes the screen is better and yes it has a bit more juice in it, but really no major difference at all. Edge on the other hand I see as a device that I might possibly keep for a very long time considering it will most likely be quad core and I've read somewhere that camera will be 10mpx.
The thing that really bothers me is that phones are generally getting bigger and I really wouldn't like to carry a 5' phone on me.
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djolebih said:
I agree hamdir. Ville is ok, but if you look at the specs from that leak, it isn't much of an improvement to begin with. To me it's the same as Sensation XL. I have it and to be honest, I see absolutely no difference between it and DHD. Yes the screen is better and yes it has a bit more juice in it, but really no major difference at all. Edge on the other hand I see as a device that I might possibly keep for a very long time considering it will most likely be quad core and I've read somewhere that camera will be 10mpx.
The thing that really bothers me is that phones are generally getting bigger and I really wouldn't like to carry a 5' phone on me.
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yes it seems once google released the galaxy nexus, 4.7 inch suddenly became the new standard, i tried the sensation XL and its really big for me, 4.3 was the max im comfortable with
i think sony has done well with offering the same basic specs on both the Xperia S and Ion with only the looks and screen size as difference, this we way the users have the choice
right now between the ville and edge, im forced to pick the edge despite my problem with 4.7inch
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yes it seems once google released the galaxy nexus, 4.7 inch suddenly became the new standard, i tried the sensation XL and its really big for me, 4.3 was the max im comfortable with
i think sony has done well with offering the same basic specs on both the Xperia S and Ion with only the looks and screen size as difference, this we way the users have the choice
right now between the ville and edge, im forced to pick the edge despite my problem with 4.7inch
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Again I agree. Nothing against Ville really, but Edge sounds like a more mature phone in all aspects. I have given it a good thought and frankly, compared to Edge, I think Ville will be a waste of money. I will however buy both for comparison purposes, but I think I already know who the winner will be.
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Again I agree. Nothing against Ville really, but Edge sounds like a more mature phone in all aspects. I have given it a good thought and frankly, compared to Edge, I think Ville will be a waste of money. I will however buy both for comparison purposes, but I think I already know who the winner will be.
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your rich? you have the XL and buying both new upcoming ones?
i just bought my wife the classic sensation used and will be buying the Edge can't afford more
It'll be too expensive
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your rich? you have the XL and buying both new upcoming ones?
i just bought my wife the classic sensation used and will be buying the Edge can't afford more
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Not like filthy rich lol, but I have cash for these things. I'm a tech addict so whatever is out new I gotta have it. It's not really an issue with money it's more of a principle. I got my fiancee Rhyme and she loves it.
I agree on phones getting to large. Me personally I liked the sensations size. It felt better in my hand than my inspire(us dhd). If we could get a quad core in the size of the ville I'm sold.
One thing to take note is that though the galaxy nexus has a huge screen it got rid of the capacitive buttons so its not really that much larger, than current phones.
As too which phone ill get, I would want quad core but never used tegra devices so still on the fence. Either way I'm going HTC, and hopefully us here in the US don't have to wait long after you guys.
For now my inspire running ics can honestly keep up for another year if I needed to wait it out
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I agree on phones getting to large. Me personally I liked the sensation screen size. It felt better in my hand than my inspire(us dhd). If we could get a quad core in the size of the ville I'm sold.
One thing to take note is that though the galaxy nexus has a huge screen it got rid of the capacitive buttons so its not really that much larger, than current phones.
As too which phone ill get, I would want quad core but never used tegra devices so still on the fence. Either way I'm going HTC, and hopefully us here in the US don't have to wait long after you guys.
For now my inspire running ics can honestly keep up for another year if I needed to wait it out
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. 4.3in was perfectly fine for a phone. The way it's moving atm, half way through the year, we're going to have phones that really are mini tablets and then what..
As for Tegra, I'm using Motorola Xoom and it's actually really really good.
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That's exactly what I'm thinking. 4.3in was perfectly fine for a phone. The way it's moving atm, half way through the year, we're going to have phones that really are mini tablets and then what..
As for Tegra, I'm using Motorola Xoom and it's actually really really good.
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Hopefully manufacturer don't go crazy and stop making phone size phones lol.
I haven't really played with a tegra device to make any judgement. My only, though very limited, experience with it is on my sisters g2x. And compared to our dhd, I was not impressed. But maybe this quad core will be.
My one caveat with the ville after relooking at the specs is the battery still seems to small. And that's comparing to our measly battery. I'm willing to sacrifice an extra few mm, to get a bigger battery. Looking at the razr maxx, it not that much bigger than the original and it has 3300mah battery! That more than double ours and about same thickness as ours I believe
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Hopefully manufacturer don't go crazy and stop making phone size phones lol.
I haven't really played with a tegra device to make any judgement. My only, though very limited, experience with it is on my sisters g2x. And compared to our dhd, I was not impressed. But maybe this quad core will be.
My one caveat with the ville after relooking at the specs is the battery still seems to small. And that's comparing to our measly battery. I'm willing to sacrifice an extra few mm, to get a bigger battery. Looking at the razr maxx, it not that much bigger than the original and it has 3300mah battery! That more than double ours and about same thickness as ours I believe
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Yeah but Motorola is working with the Aliens according to RCVR short series..
Hahah.. Had to put it here.
if i where to have to pick a sucessor to the desire hd i dont really think it would be any of the ones you listed, i think htc has something special in store for us. but i can say that i doubt it will be the edge, yes a quad core is nice but not a tegra one. coming back to the dhd from an atrix i can say the lack of drivers/source for the cpu or whatever it was really made development suck. you are very limited at what can be made, unless nvidia decides to release the stuff. and the ville seems very nice except i think a true sucessor will have better specs.
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if i where to have to pick a sucessor to the desire hd i dont really think it would be any of the ones you listed, i think htc has something special in store for us. but i can say that i doubt it will be the edge, yes a quad core is nice but not a tegra one. coming back to the dhd from an atrix i can say the lack of drivers/source for the cpu or whatever it was really made development suck. you are very limited at what can be made, unless nvidia decides to release the stuff. and the ville seems very nice except i think a true sucessor will have better specs.
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yes i already had my worries about tegra, but i didn't know they don't share their sources? devices builders are bound by law to release the kernel source along with its drivers
moreover you have to remember HTC devices have a much wider support in XDA then any other brand, for example check the xperia ARC forums despite having snapdragon 2 the support is limited
finally a history reminder XDA developers was founded to support the O2 XDA devices made by HTC which had an Nvidia Goforce GPU
if anything it might be warm come back to nvidia
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yes i already had my worries about tegra, but i didn't know they don't share their sources? devices builders are bound by law to release the kernel source along with its drivers
moreover you have to remember HTC devices have a much wider support in XDA then any other brand, for example check the xperia ARC forums despite having snapdragon 2 the support is limited
finally a history reminder XDA developers was founded to support the O2 XDA devices made by HTC which had an Nvidia Goforce GPU
if anything it might be warm come back to nvidia
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The kernel yes has to have the source released but driver source has never been released. One of the main reasons that the AOSP drivers are lacking compared to the stock drivers. Take BT for example stock based rom's use a different driver then the AOSP rom's. Same for the radio, screen, camera ect.
i found more details about the Edge screen and thickness here:
http://androidcommunity.com/more-htc-edge-details-nfc-8-8mm-and-sense-4-0-20111108/
According to an anonymous tipster (who lamentably didn’t have any new photos) the Edge will indeed be the first smartphone to feature Nvidia’s monster quad-core Tegra 3 processer running at a blistering 1.5Ghz. The processor is backed up by a full gigabyte of RAM and 32 gigs of on-board storage. The phone itself is updated as 8.8mm thin – very slim for a device with this much horsepower – but must go without a MicroSD card slot. The screen is a massive 4.7-inch 720p panel using the latest in S-LCD technology. Optical lamination makes the screen seem to float just below the glass with no space for air or dust. NFC and a large 1800mAh battery are included.
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so the screen should hopefully be a quality one similar to the XL
some negative thoughts on tegra 3 here:
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/45206/quadcore-htc-edge-to-be-showcased-at-mwc.html
Frankly speaking I am not very excited about this device because quadcore is just a marketing strategy, though it uses 4 cortex A9 processors, the L1 and L2 cache provided is equal to the one present in Tegra 2, which means nVIDIA does not expect anyone to use more than 2 cores at a time. Also we should note that Tegra 3 is a synchronous processor which will result in the consumption loads of battery, but we hope that the fifth core will be able to help us here. Superior processing power and a really powerful GPU makes it the leading processor available in the market right now, but how long will they be able to hold this position is the real question.
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Looking to the edge as my replacement for DHD unless somethi.g better comes along.Would love to have a phone with gorilla glass,got it on my transformer and after 9 months not a scratch on it
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Hi guys i am pretty confused about the new desire x phone release till this time One V was the one for me after extensive research but now am pretty perplexed as to whic h would be better for gaming as well as decent battery(i.e atleast a day on moderate usage).
am pretty unsure as Desire x seems awesome compared to one v but the gpu seems sad
my main requirements are :
720p video playback
casual gaming(temple run,cut the rope,etc) along with ocassional fps(nova,shadowgun)
good battery life as already said(atleast a day)
fast for basic operations eg messaging etc
not really big on multitasking max three apps.
thank you.
All except the gpu is in favor of Desire X. Especially 4 inch screen, dual core and RAM. Battery though touted higher capacity than oneV, real-life usage depends lot on other things since it will have to cater to a powerful processor and bigger screen area. I expect the battery life may be comparable between both and just like the oneV, desireX will give more than a days battery backup for an average user ( i easily get about 2 days on OneV). I cannot tell difference between the GPU though.
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All except the gpu is in favor of Desire X. Especially 4 inch screen, dual core and RAM. Battery though touted higher capacity than oneV, real-life usage depends lot on other things since it will have to cater to a powerful processor and bigger screen area. I expect the battery life may be comparable between both and just like the oneV, desireX will give more than a days battery backup for an average user ( i easily get about 2 days on OneV). I cannot tell difference between the GPU though.
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that the problem for me so am confused as to how the gaming performance may be affected and also the ability of the phone to play hd videos.
Desire X is better than htc one V it has dual core and i think a bit more ram as one v
One V records 720 p videos really good sound and video quality
Desire X can take 800x480p videos but i dont know how the quality of the sound and video is
Every day usage one V is very good up to 2 days
Desire X half to one day
Htc one V is for gaming a little bit laggy but its ok adreno 205
Desire X is better for gaming andreno 200
Gpu from one v is better than desire X
My tipp buy a desire X htc will definitly bring a update to take 720p videos if not the developers are here in the xda forum xdd
Correct me if i said something wrong
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I would wait for a review with benchmarks.
Comparing the two spec wise: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4951&idPhone2=4575
The Desire X has more memory and has a compass and it's dual core.
The One V has better camera (at least on the software side - no 720p video recording) and a better GPU.
Also, the CPU in the X is based on an older ARM spec than the One V, so performance per core is probably lower (but I haven't seen comparative benchmarks yet).
It would be better to wait till the release of desire X, if you can.
Two benefits, one you get to know the exact features - mostly phones differ much from what is leaked out before launch. Video recording and such are software enhancements over capable hardware and may suddenly appear in the retail edition even if not on preview sets. (Recall the big discussions on oneV not having an FM radio!)
Second- you get some serious benchmarks and user inputs as guardianpt pointed out. Better than to feel sorry later, right? So my advice - hold your decision
Thank you
I think i need to delay my decision by a few months i suppose though .
and i thank you all for helping out in this confusion.
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Desire X is better than htc one V it has dual core and i think a bit more ram as one v
One V records 720 p videos really good sound and video quality
Desire X can take 800x480p videos but i dont know how the quality of the sound and video is
Every day usage one V is very good up to 2 days
Desire X half to one day
Htc one V is for gaming a little bit laggy but its ok adreno 205
Desire X is better for gaming andreno 200
Gpu from one v is better than desire X
My tipp buy a desire X htc will definitly bring a update to take 720p videos if not the developers are here in the xda forum xdd
Correct me if i said something wrong
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Well, anandtech says adreno 203 for the Desire X, and did not have good things to say about it.
One thing I purchased the One V for to replace my Desire was the screen, same size but way brighter and more vivid. This is thanks to the scld versus slcd 2. The Desire X saved on cost by going with the older slcd as opposed to the One V's slcd 2. I will wait for anandtech's review before saying it with authority.......but right now I am willing to bet our One V's screen kills the Desire X.
The screen is the thing you spend 100% of your time looking at on a smartphone (brilliant deduction.....I know!) so I wouldn't want to go with a lessor screen.
Personaly, better build (the One V really is a successor to the legend), better screen, better gpu, I am definately NOT regretting my one V purchase.
Edit: here is a quote from Anandtech:
"it has a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Play inside. Unlike the Snapdragon S4 SoC we're familiar with, the 28 nanometer model with a pair of 1.5 GHz Krait cores and an Adreno 225 graphics processor, the S4 Play (MSM8x25) is a 45 nanometer SoC that uses a pair of 1 GHz ARM Cortex A5 cores and Adreno 203 graphics. Performance wise, ARM says that a Cortex A5 can deliver 1.57 DMIPS/MHz. To put that into some perspective, the Cortex A8 delivers 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, and the Cortex A9 that's inside many of today's devices can pump out 2.50 DMIPS/MHz. Update: The HTC Desire X has shown up in RightWare's Powerboard, confirming MSM8225. Qualcomm's Krait core can do 3.30 DMIPS/MHz, more than double the performance of ARM's Cortex A5."
So, there you have it, 45nm process cortex A5.............this is not the S4 you have been looking for!
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Well, anandtech says adreno 203 for the Desire X, and did not have good things to say about it.
One thing I purchased the One V for to replace my Desire was the screen, same size but way brighter and more vivid. This is thanks to the scld versus slcd 2. The Desire X saved on cost by going with the older slcd as opposed to the One V's slcd 2. I will wait for anandtech's review before saying it with authority.......but right now I am willing to bet our One V's screen kills the Desire X.
The screen is the thing you spend 100% of your time looking at on a smartphone (brilliant deduction.....I know!) so I wouldn't want to go with a lessor screen.
Personaly, better build (the One V really is a successor to the legend), better screen, better gpu, I am definately NOT regretting my one V purchase.
Edit: here is a quote from Anandtech:
"it has a 1 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Play inside. Unlike the Snapdragon S4 SoC we're familiar with, the 28 nanometer model with a pair of 1.5 GHz Krait cores and an Adreno 225 graphics processor, the S4 Play (MSM8x25) is a 45 nanometer SoC that uses a pair of 1 GHz ARM Cortex A5 cores and Adreno 203 graphics. Performance wise, ARM says that a Cortex A5 can deliver 1.57 DMIPS/MHz. To put that into some perspective, the Cortex A8 delivers 2.0 DMIPS/MHz, and the Cortex A9 that's inside many of today's devices can pump out 2.50 DMIPS/MHz. Update: The HTC Desire X has shown up in RightWare's Powerboard, confirming MSM8225. Qualcomm's Krait core can do 3.30 DMIPS/MHz, more than double the performance of ARM's Cortex A5."
So, there you have it, 45nm process cortex A5.............this is not the S4 you have been looking for!
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all that did was confuse me further yes i have heard about the a5 cortex could you pls put the corresponding one v values along with desire x that might help put things in prospective.
Dark Passenger said:
all that did was confuse me further yes i have heard about the a5 cortex could you pls put the corresponding one v values along with desire x that might help put things in prospective.
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The S2 processor is the scorpion family, and is capable of 2.1 dmips / mhz. This is per clock speed, running at 1.0 ghz.
For example, the G2 uses a scorpion S2 at 800mhz, the dmips would then be 80%, the max speed of the scorpion is 1.4ghz (as found in the lumina 900) so the speed would increase. The S3 and up allowed dual core and upgraded to the adreno 220. The S3 is still scorpion though, so an dual core S3 at 1.4ghz each would be capable of (2.1*1.4*2) or 5.88 dmips
Anandtech is very respected, if they say the Desire X has a crappy underperforming processor.....then it does! It will probably be fine with dual cores and driving the same resolution on a larger screen. For me, I am very happy with my One V purchase. The Desire X makes too many comprimises.
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The S2 processor is the scorpion family, and is capable of 2.1 dmips / mhz. This is per clock speed, running at 1.0 ghz.
For example, the G2 uses a scorpion S2 at 800mhz, the dmips would then be 80%, the max speed of the scorpion is 1.4ghz (as found in the lumina 900) so the speed would increase. The S3 and up allowed dual core and upgraded to the adreno 220. The S3 is still scorpion though, so an dual core S3 at 1.4ghz each would be capable of (2.1*1.4*2) or 5.88 dmips
Anandtech is very respected, if they say the Desire X has a crappy underperforming processor.....then it does! It will probably be fine with dual cores and driving the same resolution on a larger screen. For me, I am very happy with my One V purchase. The Desire X makes too many comprimises.
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that cleared it up well enough .
since you use a one v can you let me know for graphic intensive fps say any of the popular titles is it lagging .
not big on multitasking so not much there but where do you feel the problems lie like does it feel underpowered or low on ram or anyrhing like that ?
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that cleared it up well enough .
since you use a one v can you let me know for graphic intensive fps say any of the popular titles is it lagging .
not big on multitasking so not much there but where do you feel the problems lie like does it feel underpowered or low on ram or anyrhing like that ?
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I have no problems, but the 2.08 and up update made a huge difference.
My games are basic like Solitaire, and Temple run. I also wath IMBD, etc.....no problems here.
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I would buy desire x, cause one v chin is fugly.
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what about the the htc sensation ???
i lost my v and an lookin for replacement.........
waht do u guys sugesst ?????
Okay, i just get my desire x.
I can play Modern Combat 3, Wild Blood and Dead Trigger from appstore very smooth.
Dont know why people saying gaming is not possible with desire x, they´re lying (sure this issnt TEGRA but very good for this price, trust me!)
just my 5 cents
EDIT: I got Sensation too, Sensation is also Good for gaming but i did not notice any difference between this devices...(performance wise, the desire is a smoother in my opinion)