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Bluetooth manager doesn't start until I soft reset

Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Hi Poga,
Yep, I get exactly the same problem :-(
AndrewB
ROM (i-Mate) 1.40.00 WWE
Radio 1.12.00
ExtROM 1.40.176

Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?

same problem no goodlink
Same problem but no goodlink software
I also get another funny problem where sometimes I go to connect to my bluetooth access point from my phone and it just has the little pie icon saying it's doing something, then it stops and it hasn't connected (the connection icon stays the same) and I can't make any sort of connection. It then does this everytime I try to connect.
I don't know how i fix it, but I combination of many soft resets various flight mode turn ons and fiddling it eventually works. It's very frustrating and it's happened on every software version. Right now i"m running 2.04.00. I have a CDMA from Telecom NZ running radio HA_01_151 right now (but I've tried other radios).
Somebody else had this problem I noticed but nobody replied to his posts.

I've got the same problem I hope someday that someone makes a fix for it. I run the XDA IIs BlueAngel 1.40.00 Asian O2 ROM WWE. =/.

Same problem here - only solution I had was to go into settings/memory and then stop all programs running - then the bluetooth manager appears without the need for a softboot..
Pain in the arse. :!:
poga said:
Hi all,
I have a strange problem: bluetooth manager works fine after a soft reset. I can my PPC the whole day and it will always start normally (read: the screen that shows BT shortcuts shows up). The problem occurs when I turn off the phone over night (flight mode). The next day I can't get the BT manager to show the shortcuts screen - BT can be switched on and off but neither the BT manager or the BT settings screen will show up (there is no error message!!!). After I do a soft reset everything starts working...
Has anyone come across this kind of a problem in the past? I couldn't find anything using search on this forum...
My device info is (DutchRetail ROM):
ROM: 1.40.00 WWE
Radio: 1.13.00
Ext ROM: 1.40.556 WWE
I have tried uninstalling almost all extra software that I have installed after a hard reset but the issue is still here.
Thanks for all suggestions on what else I can try.
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cw6447 said:
Do either of you have Goodlink software on your device?
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I do and I have the same problem. I've been suspecting that it may have something to do with that because when I reset and I can start the manager just fine before I start Goodlink, but after I start goodlink it's a pain. Once, I tried to start BT manager then it didnt... i forgot all about it then suddenly some 11 hours later it just popped up by itself. Goodlink had been running continuously.
Any ideas???

I sometimes have the same effect.
What I usually do to resolve it (without soft reset):
- I installed PocketNav (kills programs which run in the background)
- I select 'Close all but Ative' in PocketNav
Then the Bluetooth Manager works again.
Hope it helps.
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This is due to memory limitation in WM2003SE. When it finds that the memory is not sufficient it wont run Bluetooth Manager or Wifi. I had this problem a lot until i have shifted to WM5 which has more than 100 mb when the device starts. I guess that is why M$ has built WM5 for that reason and also for persisten storage of course.

The "memory limitation" is indirectly the problem. The Goodlink, which is more than three times the memory hog as any other 3rd party app out there, is the direct problem. I could write a college discertation on the amount of bugs in this awful software. And yes, it is good for push email...but at the expense of everything else that is good about these multimedia devices we own. The typical "close-when-you-tap-the-X" software utilities don't shut down Goodlink on my device even though they successfully shut down every other software I own (over 40 titles). So I have to use MemMaid to kill its process. But Goodlink will restore itself in a matter of minutes as it ventures out to the server looking to synch mail, calendar, contacts. If there was ever a reason to bring back public hangings, it would be for the Goodlink windows OS development team.

I don't really see any issues with Goodlink eating my memory. Then again, I've converted from a strictly fun user to a strictly business user so the whole gaming and multimedia thing doesn't quite do it for me anymore.

Steiner,
I tried PocketNav to see if it would truly close GoodApp.exe. Although it does seem to shut the application down, the 6+MB exe still is open in memory. Using MemMaid it shows that it never really closes.

I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).

poga said:
I also didn't have the Goodlink software installed . My solution to the problem was: I installed the Sprite Backup software and set it to automatically restart my PPC @ 6 am after creating a backup. So in a way, this problem was very benifical to me - I now have a fresh backup of all the software every morning and the device reboots every morning without my intervention (no BT errors, no WiFi errors, etc).
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Good idea!!! :lol:

Device Stuck in Windows Mobile Screen

First of all: I read the Wiki, I followed the instructions, and I could once get it back to life.
But I want to know WHY this happens over and over again.
The story:
I have a MDA Vario II (Hermes, Tytn) for a long time to sync my business mails and calendar- entries. Some Time ago I found this Forum and updated the Device to Windows Mobile 6 (i'm Using Schaps 3.54b) and everything works like a charm.
A few weeks ago my boss as well got the same device, and unfortunately he saw me using Windows Mobile 6 while he was using the T-Mobile Windows Mobile 5.
He wanted me to update his device as well. As I did not have ANY Problems with WM6, I did not hesitate to update his device as well.
The devices are like "clones":
Same Radio- Version 1.51
Same OS - Schaps
Same Applications: Onebridge Mobile Client as the only "non-schaps" - App
Same Configuration: HTC Home without Sound- Tab, no other Extensions on Home.
Same Provider (T-Mobile)
Of course they have different IMEI and different MAC_ Adresses, but that is what it is supposed to be.
But since I gave the device to my boss, he already had the problem the second time: The device will not go over the Windows- Mobile- Splash- Screen. The first time I did not search the WIKI / Forum and just did a Hard- reset and everything was fine again.
Today problems started the second time: First of all the device was not recognized by his laptop (and my laptop eather) any more: It said "Unknown device". And while it always charges (orange led on) for the first few seconds after re- pluggin, it stopps charging after the error- Message on the laptop.
So I thought: Maybe an akku- problem and interchanged his akku with mine.
And now i have the Windows- Boot- Stuck- Thing again.
It's not that I could not reanimate the device by Hard- resetting it, but I want to understand the reason:
How can it be, that exactly the same hardware with exactly the same software reacts that different.
By the way: This already is the second device for my boss, the first one has already been exchanged... After it had Boot- Problems (I reflashed original Radio, Firmware, so that they did not say anything)
Can anyone help ?
EDIT:
I tried leaving the battery out for 20 Minutes -> no success
I tried leaving it in Boot- Screen for 10 Minutes (or even more) -> No Access
I connected it to my PC and it can be found and gets an IP- Adfress that I can ping, but ActiveSync does not connect and the Screen is still a Windows mobile Boot- Screen.
At the Moment I'am trieing to get a log via USB- Monitor. I'm gona post it when I get it...
EDIT2:
OK, cause it's the device of my boss I now gave him mine (after a hard-reset and reinstalltion of the needed application) and reanimated his one by just doing a hard- reset. It came back to live instantly and now I will try to reproduce this hang with his device whilest him using mine. Seems that everybody knows how to reanimate, but nobody knows, why this happens... I'll try to find out and report it back if I can find the reason.

I have the same problem after installing the new HTC Plus plug in.
My ROM is the supa dupa lite one.
Now i need to remember how to do a hard reset!
edit - hard reset go tme back to 'normal'

i tried supa dupa and superstorage dlite, my phone stuck same as you are. .... at last i put any stable .nbh in microsd. then pushed power+ok+soft rest button... reflash back. successful!

Mine with Schaps 4.31 & Radio 1.54 also stucks in Windows Mobile screen after a few day upgrading ROM & radio then installing HTC Plus.
Hard reset does the cure, but I lost all the data.
So what's the culprit ?

i had the same problem, i understood the problem is the calendar.
if you have a schedule in the calendar, with a reminder or with nothing, and you turn off the pda, it will freeze in the windows splash screen when you try to turn it on. Until the schedule is ended.
i had the shap's rom 3.54b, and i resolve installing the 4.30 rom.
bye!

everytime I have had such issues..........was a corrupt installation.
when I am flashing I no touch anything anymore........just gun shy now.

having the same problem, any solutions yet?

Infinite Loop Problem on the newly installed S620 WM6 rom

Hello,
I just recently flashed my S621 with the S620 WM6 rom and everything is fine and dandy until I recently installed the program "Tornado PowerControl" and tried to reboot the phone.
I get infinite reboot loops and periodic freezes at the Tornado PowerControl screen showing the system stats. I have tried taking out the memory card as well as removing the battery and putting it back in for a reboot to no avail.
Are there any solutions to this as I cannot connect the phone to ActiveSync if the phone can't reach the main menu.
Thank you.

I have tried without the SIM in as well and it boots up fine until it tries to load up the Tornado PowerControl problem, wherein if you pretty exit or the 'home' button, it'll reboot

Sorry for the vent.... looks like there was no fix for it and it allowed me to connect to ActiveSync as the screen froze... and I had to reinstall WM6 again, this time with the official S621 WM6 rom

I got my M810 a few hours ago. After failed ROM upgrade, only white screen! HELP :-(

I got my M810 yesterday for my Dad as a gift (I own a Tytn II and I have loaded several ROMs on it).
Heres how it happened:
I tried to get rid of the Chinese ROM and downloaded a ROM from the ETEN website and got some "not comptabile with" messages. Was about to try Boge's method (found in google), but then downloaded an M810 ROM from Etenusers forum.
Here's the problem:
After this the phone has a completely white screen, it does not bootup and keeps vibrating.
Here's what I did:
After lots of searching, these were the potential solutions:
- Knight mode
- Try taking the battery out, holding down the power button then putting the battery in while the power button is still pressed, then release.
- Try taking out the battery for a few minutes
- Do a full recharge
- Copy USBDLUpdate_Console.exe and temp.bin to the microSD card
Please please help me with some options. I've been saving up for this phone for months and its gone.

resolved after lots of work. For those people stuck, here is the solution:
http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=16838&st=0#entry106365
Cheers.

[Q] Device hangup - what is the reason for

I have very strange behavior of my Desire. Several weeks ago I have installed InsertIcon v1.0.8 non-CM version. Everything was fine, run quite smothly. But last week I had the first device hangup. Without any critical operation it's just stop working - locked, no program running, only hard reset help (battery take out). Then it was running for several days without any problems and hanged again and again after reboot. And then again... in several minutes.
I thought it was just because of some new software - I delete it (2x battery and some device monitoring software). But problem became worse and worse - finally I got lost all my widgets from the screens, except application links. The problem is wiered - device can run for several hours without any problems and then hangup because of ... nothing. Just frozen in Screen On or Off ... What is the reason for it? Is it device, SD card or software related? How could I fix it?