i've installed lots of programs on my sd some installed parts on phone memory and it;s kinda full. any suggestions? i've deleted anything that i could . Maybe a program to compress . maybe from storage where i have about 20 MB free? thanks
re: more memory
try to install big storage rom on your toy. it might help you. browse the forum for the links.
Is xda II mini the magician equivalent?
I'm asking because I want to make sure what OS version it is.
If it's WM 2003 you should have a slider to shift between program and storage memory, and if it's WM 5 than nothing can be done.
Any way if it's program memory (RAM) you are after, than (at least in WM5) what's installed where doesn't matter.
If you are using WM 2003 search the forum for 'NeverDorkMemory' it's a reg hack that prevents the system from automatically distributing RAM between storage and program.
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Maybe it is a stupid question.
I try it anyway: on WM2003, it was possible to decide, how much memory should be allocated to storage and how much to programs.
This feature has disappeared on WM5 on my JASJAR.
Or am I just too stupid to find it ?
Or is there a registry tweak to do it ?
Cheers and thx in advance for a reply
hrb
Hi
there's no such thing as program/storage in WM5
WM5 wisely uses device's both ROM and RAM to get you fast responsivness and prevent data loss on hard-reset.
It's recommended however to install any programs on SD card. That guarantees your data is safe all the time.
The feature is called persistent-storage.
robal said:
WM5 wisely uses device's both ROM and RAM to get you fast responsivness and prevent data loss on hard-reset.
The feature is called persistent-storage.
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But I lost all contacts and calendar data when hardreset my Jasjar. I think the thing called persistent storage is only useful in case battery off.
I understand that, but:
When I go to Start>Settings>Memory, it shows:
- 31.71 MB Storage
- 20.45 MB Programs
Thats what I mean in my first post above.
This ratio could be changed in WM2K3s (set Programs to maximum and Storage to about 7 MB)
It's not possible with WM5 ?
I have all my Programs on Storage Card.
Cheers
hrb
I am a newbie and just bought my first PDA phone - O2 Atom
Trying to learn as much about it so that I can fully utilize it.
Reading the posts in this site is my first step.
I know this may sound stupid to the experienced users but
I've been reading posts asking about unlocking the Ext. Rom
What is the purpose of doing this ? What are the additional things I can do if I can unlock my ext. Rom vs just leaving the device "as is" ?
Anyone care to enlighten me ?
When you unlock the ext-rom you can see what's in it? Also you can turn it writeable, so you can do anything you like with it, make a copy of the content first. As it it persistent storage on most devices the content won't be erased by hard-reset.
On my magician for instances the ext-rom is concatenated to the internal storage folder enlarging it from 7 to 27MB.
Regards, M
Basically, the ext (extended) rom includes extra settings like operator network settings, extra operator programs and operator visual customisations. Really, if you are new to this, it is best to leave as-is, as unlocking only allows you to edit the Ext rom, which you will probs not want to do yet.
Thanks all for the info. I guess I need to find out more before I try this.
There seems to be 3 kinds of memory on my device:
1. Storage
2. Memory Card
3. Device (which itself seems to be broken into 2 ? One for programs and another for program storage ?)
One of the reasons I asked this question is because I encountered a low memory warning but when I checked the Settings/memory 1 & 2 still showed lots but on the General tab it showed Storage as .5KB left not sure how to interprete the info.
The memory on your device is called RAM & is devided dynamically, by the OS, in a storage & a program part. When you install programs Via Act.sync & choose default they end up in ram, program files folder, this will cost precious space to run an application. So try to install to SD or storage folder. that's why BS is nice. You can use cabinstl to choose where you want to install when you install a cab directly on your magician.
Got the idea
You mentioned the operator blah blah.. does that means that i can unlock my simcard by unlocking the ext rom?
no extented rom and sim locks are 2 different things
Actually, oltp is a bit mistaking in his description of the memory regarding your specific phone.
The Atom is Windows Mobile 5 device.
On WM 5 phones there are two physical types of memory:
RAM and FLASH.
Unlike in older models, on WM 5 the RAM also called 'program memory' is only used to run programs, just like RAM in your PC.
The ROM or flash memory (slower, but isn't erased when power is lost) is divided in to 3 partitions:
ROM / OS - locked partition where the operating system resides. Only special tools like ROM upgrade utilities can write to this section.
Ext ROM - a locked partition where the operator / vendor of the phone stores some extras which are automatically installed after hard reset. As you already know you can unlock it and use as regular storage. Any data stored there will not be erased during hard reset.
Storage memory - this is the part of internal memory (flash) where you can install apps and store your documents and other files. Just like a PC hard drive.
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Is there a sticky or a thread somewhere about editing ROM/Ext.Rom?
Thank you.
It's all in the WiKi!
Hello all,
great efford!!!!!
I have QTEK 9090 WM2K3SE or should I say Blue Angel.
ROM version 1.40.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/10/05
Radio version: 1.15.00
Protocol version 1337.45
ExtROM version 1.40.148 WWE
When you install a new program it is automatically installed on
My Device\Program Files\New program (This is RAM I think.).
You do not have any option of selecting in which folder to install the program
in order to select the Storage Card.
???Is there any way to force new programs to be installed on SD???
Is there another open Thread that contains this information?
Thank you!
If you are installing from the desktop, ActiveSync asks "install program in default location?". Click 'no' and you will be able to choose to install to SD.
If you are installing directly from a cab you will need CabInstl to change the destination.
Thanks
Thank you, I will try both!
Explicit path
Thank you, both of the suggestions worked fine!
But, I have some further questions.
CabInstl allows to specify an exact installation path, e.g. SD\MyPrograms\New Application.
With ActiveSync 3.7 you can select SD but not any subfolders of SD like with CabInstal.
Does the newer version of ActiveSync support an exact path installation definition and not just drive?
Blue Angel has 128 Mb RAM. Under Settings\Memory\Main you can see that.
Settings\Memory\Storage Card\Storage Card is the SD memory card that I have attached.
What is the Settings\Memory\Storage Card\STORAGE which is 40 Mb?
If you want to install any application from ActiveSync it gets also installed on the PC Add/Removes programs and after Sync with PDA you have to Remove it from the PC. Is there any way to avoid the PC permanent installation?
OK:
1) No. ActiveSync only lets you choose the general location. Note that what CabInstl does may cause some programs not to work as PPC programs often expect to be in a specific directory.
2) Main memory is divided in to two parts:
Program - your actual RAM just like on PC which programs use to run.
Storage - on WM 2003 devices (like yours) this is also RAM but it is treated like hard drive. WM 2003 has a slider that lets you repartition the RAM between storage and program. On WM5 device this is internal flash.
3) No. This is just something installers do, they keep a part of themselves on the PC. Unless you have extremely little space on you hard drive, I recommend not removing the apps. It will make them easier to reinstall should you have to preform hard reset.
Thanks again Levenum for the usefull feedback.
Thanks again Levenum for the usefull feedback.
1) I just had this experience yesterday with GSPocketMagic1_32_19
during a restart its .exe file cannot be found. Good to know that it is a more general problem in order to avoid installation on subdirectories.
2) The manual is not describing this very clear and surprisingly if you change the allocation size with the bar in screen main memory the size in storage screen does not change, or if you copy something to Storage again the size of the Memory\Main\Storage -InUse does not change were the Memory\Storage Card\Storage changes, so it was difficult to figure it out. It is like you have 128 RAM + 40 Storage RAM.
There is one other thing I forgot to mention regrading RAM:
No matter what you do with the slide, if the system thinks it needs more running memory or more storage it will repartition by it self. Usually it will divide the free ram 50/50 between programs and storage.
This is why you may copy something to main memory and not see a difference in available storage. You should always look at 'used' values.
Also there is a reg key you can create:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Shell\NeverDorkMemory
Simply creating this key will prevent the system from automatically repartitioning your RAM.
i have a cingular 8525 running windows 6 .On the store card i have 139.00mb in use and 1797.64 free memory but on the storage main memory it says 44.77 mb with 41.35 in use and the programe 48.77mb with 29.93 in use. my storage card is nowhere full can someone tell me why i dont have any memory?
The cingular 8525 is an HTC Hermes (tytn), you might want to check THAT forum section.
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The cingular 8525 is an HTC Hermes (tytn), you might want to check THAT forum section.
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Wow Thanks i always thought it was wizard Thanks
joemanb said:
The cingular 8525 is an HTC Hermes (tytn), you might want to check THAT forum section.
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Dude, i have a Cingular 8525 purchased from NCD_X on this same forum and have flashed my own Hermes roms among many others
edit, and to answer your question, your looking at memory left on the phone not the storage card.
not quite sure
Not quite sure I follow the above posts, your question is in reference to the htc 8525. This is the correct forum for that phone.
In regard to the memory, the 8525 has 128mb flash and 64mb for ram
when you load a program onto your storage card (max 2gb) some data to run that program is loaded onto your phone, usually into your storage memory, the phone then uses the program memory to run programs, the more programs you have open the less program memory you will have available.
To clean up your program memory try using cleartemp, it will help.
BS roms also tend to have more program memory free, and usually run faster, however they can be less stable and have fewer options that are part of the rom. Try a few and see which you like.
A very fast recent rom is Joshkoss' haloween rom
http://www.4shared.com/file/67573750/da52b5f1/V9b1_Light_HalloweenRom.html
But remember you will need to install the programs you want and watch the memory as you install them.
@lewentoons, this was originally in the Wizard forums, thats why it got moved, and thats why it originally wasnt in the correct area.
thanks
I figured something was behind it......
Hello everyone!
As usual let's start with the description of my current situation:
I have a HTC P3300, with the official HTC WM6 Update.
I have also installed the HTC Touch layout, provided in this forum. ;-)
I have a MicroSD of 2 Gb, only half full.
Now after two years I am starting to notice a loss of speed of my PDA (yeah I know, the P3300 is not the fastest machine so I should not be surprised, and I am not)
Some programs won't start anymore because of "not enough memory". Current Solution: I have to start my P3300 again.
My "Running Programs List" is always empty, so no need to look for a solution there.
The solution is clearly to be found in the Memory status:
Storage 2.50 Mb of 32.45 Mb (and Program 18.25 Mb of 47.90 Mb)
So what I am thinking of:
1. Is there any possibility with the Regeditor to do some kind of fusion of the "Storage and Program Memory", so that I can use the available space on the "Program"side needed on the "Memory"side?
2. Or in case that's impossibe, can something be done about those temp files, without starting the P3300? (best would be that they are deleted immediately after the program that has created them is closed)
3. Or if even this is impossible, can't I use the empty space from my MicroSD Card? Of course the files should also be deleted automatically.
So I hope I have explained clearly enough the problem and my preffered solutions. I am gratefull for every help offered. I was always pleased with this forum, and this time I am awaiting nothing less! Thanks alot in advance.
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I think that’s normal the last time, lots of readers but no solutions, most of them download a rom and after that it’s done, no feedback en no help when someone have a problem. Only when the have a problem there self than the know to scream here at XDA. Sorry I'm not that tech that I can help you.
Your device has very little internal storage free, best solution is to move large files, and install software to your memorycard.
Your program memory seem to be normal.
Some cooked rom's have far more storage memmory than the official wm6.
My device have around 30 diffrent software's installed mostly to memorycard, i have 36mb internal memory left and 18-21 program memory.
I have moved most of the content of my documents to memory card to free upp internal storage.
I dont think you can change the relationship between internal storage and program memory, to do that you have to change to another rom.
You can try oxios hibernate to release program memory, visit oxios homepage to see if it's something for you.
Thanks for the help.
My Documents are all on the memorycard. Well, except the "my documents" that are put per default on the P3300, so let's say my REAL documents are on the card.
Concerning the programs, unfortunately those I have installed hadn't any possibilities to be installed on the card (except for some program's extensions, like for example TomTom's maps).
So after this my choices are pretty limited.
But thanks anyway that someone has tried his best.
Install big programs to the memory card instead of the storage memory.
With meschle's Artemis Touch 4.02 full with no cube, TomTom installed amongst other applications (Phone's been on for two days with Tomtom running and activesync:
Storage:
Total: 46.22MB
In use: 14.01MB
Free: 32.20MB
Program:
Total: 50.86MB
In use: 32.65MB
Free: 18.21MB
After using Oxios Hibernate, the Free program memory has gone to 22.46MB free.
Download Oxios Memory and run Hibernate - that frees up program memory very quickly
Okay so I have installed Oxios Memory.
Until now I have "won" 0.10 Mb Storage Memory and 0.97 Mb Program Memory. I will test this a little bit, seems a good solution before I find the courage to try to reinstall all programs on the memory card (as I said before there are some programs who did'nt asked where to be installed...or I haven't seen it. Everything is possible )
Thanks a lot.
You could use ClearTemp to have the temp folders emptied upon startup: http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff/cleartemp.zip
There are also several tools to change the standard temp folders so they are located on the storage card. Maybe Schaps Configuration tool can do that or maybe WinXplore can't remember, but those tools exist.