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Hello,
I have just upgraded from an XDAII to an Orange SPV M2000.
First impressions are generally quite good. One huge problem I am having though is that my Jabra 250 BT headset that works absolutely fine on my XDAII, works terribly on the M2000. The connection is incredibly crackly to the point of it being unusable.
The same headset works fine again when I revert it back to the XDAII. I have even tried turning off encryption on the M2000.
Is it possible that because the bluetooth software on the M2000 is completely different to that on the O2 XDAII, that this could be part of the problem?
Grateful for any advice.
Thanks!
Howdy,
I have the same probs with Jabra 250 and MDA III @ 1.6.1, Broadcom Build 1900.
up to 40 centimeters, everything is ok with a free line of sight :shock:
it still works up to some meters, but is indeed unusable. :evil:
bought it at MediaMarkt, so they'll get it back.
D'you think it's a headset problem or a general problem with the bluetooth on the phone.
I find that Activesync over bluetooth does not work at anywhere near the same range I was getting with my XDAII
Can you let me know if you have better luck with any other headset.
Incidentally, I note with the Jabra that when it is connected, you can click and hold down on the Jabra paired device and bring up the status which shows connection strength. It fluctuates greatly between the weakest and the "Just Right" marks - which might explain why it so crackly.
MY BT Headset experience
I have been trying out some BT Headsets for my MDA III T-mobile Austrian edition and here are the results:
Jabra BT 250: The connection was cracking the whole time even when the phone was next to the headset. It is really comfortable when using it. VERDICT: Not usable.
Ericsson HBH 35: No cracking, great sound quality but would stop working after few minutes of inactivity. Turning BT on the MDA off and then on would make it work again. VERDICT: Usable but the inactivity thing really bugs me
Motorola HS-820: The same problems as HBH35 although the sound quality was somehow inferior to HBH35. VERDICT: same as HBH35.
Motorola HS-810: Works well, less disconnection problems than HBH35/HS-820 but still unpredictible/unreliable. The sound was barely hearable in noisy envoironments due to the desing of the headset. VERDICT: only headset that works more or less OK with the MDA III's current BT Stack. But only usable in the car or in a somewhat quiet environment.
Overall, wait for the BT fix. I've returned all the headsets until I can use one without problems.
Thanks for your reply.
Is the BT fix going to be unique to the service provider or will it be a Broadcom generic fix?
For example, I have the Orange SPV M2000 - would I be able to use whatever fix comes out for the MDA III or do I need to wait for Orange UK to release a fix specifically for their flavour of Blueangel.
Thanks!
I've been living with this cracking sound from the Jabra (paired to my XDA2) for almost a year now!
I originally got my M2000 with BT 1.0.0.3500.
It worked OK with my Southwing headset but I heard that getting the upgrade to 1.6.0.600 would improve the sound quality.
I upgraded and there was very little improvement, if any.
I then noticed that the connection with my headset was very erratic.
The headset would connect ok and the m2000 would repond correctly to me pressing, double-pressing or tripple-pressing the control button on the headset. If I made a call from the handset it would be transferred to the headet. However, this would only happen for one call. Once I had made and terminated one call it would get kinda stuck and not reset itself so I could not use the headset properly. The only way I could fix this was to turn off the headset, do a reset on the m2000 and then switch on and reconnect the headset.
Finally got fed up and downgraded back to 1.0.0.3500 and it's all OK again.
Anyone else had similar problems ?
southwing and bluetooth
I just bought a southwing bluetooth headset and couldn't wait to get started. Little did I know that the pain was just about to start.
I am using an Orange SPV M2000 with the 1.12.22 WWE ROM and Radio version 1.04, build 2200 of bluetooth stack 1.00 build 2200. Not sure if this is the problem.
Anywaythe Southwing sounds fine when i use it but the volume that its sends to the other party is about 10 times to low and even when yelling I can't be heard well. Is this a known problem with either the Blue Angel phones or SouthWing headsets? Is it easy to upgrade to a newer bluetooth stack? Is this something I should do?
Sorry to reply to your question with another question but do you find the volume levels acceptable on your SouthWing?
I have had a lot of complaints from callers when I use my southwing including too quiet, static and background noise, voice cutting in and out, sounding like I'm in a tunnel etc.
Fortunately it has also fallen apart, i.e. the grey rubber eargrip bit keeps coming off the main body.
I bought mine at expansys so they said I could just send it back for a refund.
I have just bought a Cardo Scala 500 (also from expansys) which should arrive tomorrow.
It looks pretty cool and the reviews says the sound quality is excellent.
It also has an alternative to the round-the-ear grip which is a little stem that clips onto the arm of your glasses. Exellent for me as I wear specs.
I would seriously think about upgrading your ROM to 1.31.00 and then patching your BT Stack.
Hi! Just want to know which bluetooth headsets are compatible with PDA2K. I spent a lot of time in the shop yesterday, but for the life of me, I couldn't get the SE HBH-600 or the Nokia HDW-2 to work with it.
The HBH-600 got paired, but as soon as a call connected, the audio was switched to the handset, with the headset being disconnected. As soon as the call was dropped, the connection to the headset was resumed.
As for the HDW-2, I couldn't get it to connect. I really need a bluetooth headset pronto, because of the incidences of cellphone-snatching here in Karachi, so please could you guys help me out ASAP? Thanks in advance!
Hi There,
I use the Jabra 250 without any problems
Cheers
Pointy
I have tried 4 different headsets with the Blue Angel.
The current winner is the Cardo Scala 500...which is nice because its also the cheapest.
I'm using the older Sony Ericsson HBH-35 with mine and seems to work just fine. My only problems are that the battery on this one is dying a bit lately, but that's hardly the phones fault!
I am using the G2 Bluetrek as sold in O2 shops under the O2 brand.
Works...intemittently...sometimes great - sometimes very noisy - sometimes it looses connection! I also find that it seems to go to the highest volume setting at the start of every call which hurts my ears!
R
Well I have been using a Plantronics M3000 on BT Builds 3500 and then 3900 without any problems
Hallo!
I am using SE HBH 300, works fine with BT Builds 3500.
My older BT-headset Jabra 300 did´not worked, (could not answer 90% of the calls)
/M
Hi.
Im using the HBH 600 with both BT Build 3500 & 3900.
I dont experience any troubles with the 3900 build, only the poor range and sometimes a little crackling sound, but this seems to be the same for all BT headsets with the BA.
You can get the Build 3900 from the ftp in BlueAngel/Cab_files/Bluetooth Upgrades/bt3900.cab
I am using the Nextlink Bluespoon AX. Works fine for me.
R
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-660 Akono and works great (except for the fact that the headset's display just shows the number and not the name...)
Joao Caldeira
I'm using the Jabra BT800, and it works perfectly, except for the caller ID showing just the number, and an annoying amount of static when going through an solid object (like my head :roll.
This is with bluetooth build 3500, and all the other headsets I've tried with this phone (SE HBH-65, HBH-300) have exhibited exactly the same problems with static through objects... would appear that the phone isn't giving the signal enough juice, or something? :?
Chris
Just took my old G2 to the O2 store and complained about it being so crap. They replaced it with a new O2 (Bluetrek?) one. Inital opinion is that it is a little better but not a lot - still noisy and complaints of it sounding bad from the other end.....
I'm using the Motorola HS810 and it works just great, actually after a soft reset the volume on the headset is too loud !
HBH-65 seems to work ok for me.
bosjo, it's good to hear that you have got the HBH-600 working. I am unable to do so. I had build 3500, but upgraded to 3900 after reading your post. Still no difference. I had noticed before that when I monitored the headset connection using Bluetooth Manager -> Active Connections, the status would be showing me a full signal, and intermittently, it would become red, meaning that the signal would keep going to zero, and coming back to full. This was even when the phone was hardly 6 inches away from the headset, in line of sight. I'm going to return my bluetooth headset tomorrow, and I wonder if I should get my handset replaced as well. I'm worried that since the problem wasn't fixed by the 3900 build, something may be wrong with my bluetooth radio hardware. Anyways, I am open to suggestions.
Look @ this... might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17536&highlight=
I have a Bluespoon AX that works perfectly!!
Before that I had a Nokia HDW-2, it worked good too!
Hi all,
It seems the Nextlink Bluespoon AX gets a good press here with the XDA2s - so, where did you guys buy yours???
R
I'm using a bluespoon ax but mine definitely has that crackling sound. I'm using 1.0.0.3900. However, it's definitely not the headset because I've tried it with a magician and it works absolutely fine - friends told me it sounded the same as if I was speaking through the phone.
Sounds like the XDA2s bt stack still needs a lot of work - lets hope a rom upgrade comes out soon which mproves it - there realy is no excuse O2!!!
R
Hello,
how can I improve the sound quality of my bluetooth headset?
I've tried several headsets of different manufacturers
(I work at a mobile phones distributor so I had some to choose )
and with also different phones.
Nokia, Siemens, Motorola... almost every phone worked well with almost every headset.
But with my MDA-III it's a nightmare
Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
It there any way to get my Headset (Jabra BT250v) to work?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
hmmm - have to admit I've been attempting to use an I-tech headset (the cheapest one with the "tie-clip" mic and a wired earpiece) and I thought the poor reception (but only with certain phone calls oddly) was the headset being cheap tat - not the phone!
Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm Sad
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
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I too run .3900 and radio 1.08 I always had the *VERY SAME* trouble that you describe here..
I tried Ericsson 600 and 660 heatdsets, and I bought an EpoX HS02-BT it works for well over 10 meters with any Nokia or Ericsson phone I tested, It even works 10 meters with "QTEK S100" - but my 9090 sucks in this area.
I wonder if my (and yours) 9090 is somehow defect.
ipzipzap said:
But with my MDA-III it's a nightmare
Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
It there any way to get my Headset (Jabra BT250v) to work?
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Unfortunely I have the same problem , and I really need Headset for working .
I tried Radio 10 and 3900 stack with some slight improvements then I tried The Jabra 250V with a SonyEriccson of a friend of mine .... everything was perfect sound , 10 meters away , automatic answering and so on .. I guess is an other OS ,
the posts around here state the BT stack from MS is faulty , just wondering if other Smartphone with WM have the some problem
I'm just waiting for a piece of sw that takes all us out of this incredible fiasco !
I don't know which headset I should use with my MDA Pro.
I'm a Plantronics fan, but Jabra also makes good Headsets. What do you think about the new Jabra with LCDisplay? It would be a good complement to use the closed Universal.
Did anybody use this new Jabra?
What model Jabra? the BT800? That one has the number display for called ID. It's good. I did not think i'd get use to it, I prefer the older bt250 style, but it's not bad at all and supports voice dialing.
i got the jabra's BT800 and SE Akono HBH660.. i think i like the bt800 better
@ GM: Is the display a big helper? Does it only show the number, or ist it possible to see the name either?
I am using the Motorola HS850 and it seems to work very well with JasJar.
MBastian said:
I don't know which headset I should use with my MDA Pro.
I'm a Plantronics fan, but Jabra also makes good Headsets. What do you think about the new Jabra with LCDisplay? It would be a good complement to use the closed Universal.
Did anybody use this new Jabra?
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Plantronics hasn't really released any new BT headsets. I'm still using my old M3000 with the MDA II. Try out Jabra since they seem to be the market leader for BT headsets.
bluetooth ...
i've used several BT headsets and the best ones i've used are from SonyEricsson ... I currently use both HBH-300 and HBH-608 and they both work fine on my XDA 2s ... the only thing i've noticed (comparing my XDA 2s with my SE P910i) that the bluetooth isn't as strong compared when i use them on my SE Phone... in comparison with other headsets, i think Jabra has been a good competitor as well as nokia ... i also have the O2 BT headset which is nice and small but the signal is really poor ...
C
I currently use an SE Akono HBH-300 and had an HBH-65 - they both work fine with my XdaII, though the 65 had crap battery life.
I am using the Oakley Razrwire glasses with my Jasjar 95% of time... Bluespoon AX 5% of time. BT has worked flawlessly on my Universal. I haven't had it drop connection not once.
MBastian said:
@ GM: Is the display a big helper? Does it only show the number, or ist it possible to see the name either?
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number only
It's a shame that the JASJAR only sends the caller number to the headset and not the contact name.
I've tried my BT800 on my SE P910i and it displays the contact name when used on that device.
@ Triband81: Plantronics released a whole bunch of new interesting Headsets:
Voyager 510, with extended system für "normal" wired phones
Discovery 320
Discovery 640, only 9g, interesting charging solution
http://reviews.cnet.com/Plantronics_Discovery_640_Bluetooth_headset/4505-5_7-31515626-2.html?tag=top
I ordered mine yesterday.
The Jabra BT800 sounds very interesting because of the display. But it lokks very large on the photos.
i think the bt800 needs the handsfree profile instead of the headset profile w/c jasjar has to display the actual contact name (if you check out jabra's website, almost all ppcpe's are not compatible with bt800). its either jabra released a new firmware for the bt800 or we'll wait for a ROM upgrade for jasjar
rilot said:
It's a shame that the JASJAR only sends the caller number to the headset and not the contact name.
I've tried my BT800 on my SE P910i and it displays the contact name when used on that device.
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I have been using the plantronics v510, and it works very well with the JasJar. This is the only headset that I used when I first turned it on, I had to turn it down a couple notches just because it was too loud. Great headset, I wanted the 640, but couldnt wait for it to be released.
Anyone does know how to redial via bluetooth headset (HBH 660)?
@ guido: Try a "doubleclick" at the main headset button.
Thinking of getting the bluespoon 5g, I have no use for it right now with IIs, Mini and car phone... But after getting the Exec, BT is a must I guess and 5g seems to go well with it ;P
My headset- HBH Sony ericsson 662. Can see phone Number, can use voidial and listen music via bluetooth with Jasjar
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question:
can someone tell me if on the Jabra BT800 i can see the display while i'm wearing it ?
thanks
decebal said:
question:
can someone tell me if on the Jabra BT800 i can see the display while i'm wearing it ?
thanks
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Only if you have an eye in the side of your head! Sorry .... you can only read it before you put it on.
Kevin