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Headphone adapter

Has anybody actually managed to use their own headphones using an adapter. Thinking of buying the XDA Orbit but I'm cautious about the usb headphone socket.
Thanks,
Ezman

the bundled headphones are absolute toss! i'd love to be able to use my own...

ezman said:
Has anybody actually managed to use their own headphones using an adapter. Thinking of buying the XDA Orbit but I'm cautious about the usb headphone socket.
Thanks,
Ezman
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Expansys will ship the adapter on the 8th of December (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=138247) . I haven't found this adapter anywhere else and I don't know of anyone who has it (except one guy in this very forum???) so I can't let you know if it's acceptable and working as promised or not.
One thing that should be VERY interesting is if the radio reception is good with this adapter and a pair of standard headphones attached to it (and using the FM radio registry hack). Has anybody (who has the adapter of course...) tried it?

well if it's the same as the spv m3100 socket then this should work, not that i have any confidence in my ability to successfully do it
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2006/08/18/orange_spv_m3100_headphone_adapter_hack

Any progress on adapters for this device? It's a bit of a setback to not be able to use your own headphones with this device isn't it? Maybe I just need to get an ipod and shut up but hell, seems like a shame when i could use my old magician as an mp3 player.

Here's someone who uses the HTC S620 Audio Jack Converter.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?p=8412073#post8412073
I just ordered one but it won't ship until January.

this one i finded today
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php

Mokyman said:
this one i finded today
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverter.php
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Cool. But will it support the Radio?

http://www.absolutesurf.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=66
Mod it sucessfully! Sounds awesome with my Sony Ex-51.. I might wanna dump my stereo BT for this.. haha

meer said:
Cool. But will it support the Radio?
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i think so...

And is the sound level loud enough with this adaptor and a good headphone. I mean with the media player because for all other applications (FM radio, phone, etc...) it's OK.

consono said:
...(and using the FM radio registry hack)...
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Does this registry hack exist? I would love to be able to use my own headphones instead of the crappy XDA ones.

HKLM/System/State/Hardware/
set Headset to '1'
but the next time, your headset is connected and reconnected, the registry entry is again reset to '0'
it makes no sence to use the 'hack', cause all You will get is broadband noise without an antenna connected.
if you are familar with soldering, you can open the mic-housing (carefully with your fingernails), unsolder the headphones, and replace it with an 3.5mm female jack. So you can use Your own headphones, and the antenna is still connected.

meer said:
Cool. But will it support the Radio?
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No it doesnt, although i have this adapter in my car so i can run the mp3s off my phone, and the car stereo has radio anyway, which i may add never has anything good on anyway
Also, when this adapter is connected to the car, when someone rings i can hear them through the cars speakers but the adapter blocks the microphone signal so the person calling cannot hear me

kinski said:
HKLM/System/State/Hardware/
set Headset to '1'
but the next time, your headset is connected and reconnected, the registry entry is again reset to '0'
it makes no sence to use the 'hack', cause all You will get is broadband noise without an antenna connected.
if you are familar with soldering, you can open the mic-housing (carefully with your fingernails), unsolder the headphones, and replace it with an 3.5mm female jack. So you can use Your own headphones, and the antenna is still connected.
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This is actually quite easy to do, just buy a socket from Maplin for about £3 then solder between the mic and the crappy htc eadphones. Viola - I now have my senheissers back AND mic and radio function! OK I do have about 2 metres of cable to route around my clothing but that just adds to the fun.

debully said:
This is actually quite easy to do, just buy a socket from Maplin for about £3 then solder between the mic and the crappy htc eadphones. Viola - I now have my senheissers back AND mic and radio function! OK I do have about 2 metres of cable to route around my clothing but that just adds to the fun.
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Just did that last weekend, but when I popped open the housing with my fingernail, well there really is not enough room to fit a jack socket in there, with the headset that comes with the o2 orbit anyway, the mic is right in the way. I had a really slim socket all ready to go which I'd pulled out of a tiny broken sony radio. So I had to just chop the end off a 3.5mm extension lead with a nice ready moulded on socket. It was a 5 min job and looks like it was made that way, everything still works.

Need this cable: Micro USB to 3.5mm & USB splitter

Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!

Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?

blobotorian said:
Dear awesome user.
The practical application of this would be ?
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Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.

must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793

indie said:
must be out there
heres something similar but is mini usb which is no good.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-1-MINI-USB-3-5MM-JACK-MINI-USB-HTC-ADAPTER-/260655181793
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Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
Sent from my Optimus 2X using xda premium

hobs0n said:
Shouldn't a micro-usb to mini-usb converter work? IF it supports audio over usb that is
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That's totally proprietary. The phone that that is made for probably doesn't even have a 3.5mm jack.

biggy83 said:
Well, instead of having two wires coming out of my Note (Top and bottom) while I'm driving, a cable like this well have only one wire coming out from under the phone, cutting on clutter and annoying wires.
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Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?

Your best bet for a single plug into your phone would probably be to use an MHL>HDMI adapter, and then get another adapter to convert from HDMI audio to 3.5mm.
That would be rather clunky though. HDMI > Anything (that isn't DVI) converters are going to run you at least about $40 for a start, and they aren't small either (probably not much smaller than the phone itself .) And they are externally-powered, so you'd need to provide power to both the MHL dongle and the HDMI converter, so it'd be super untidy.
You could do it though.
But you're probably better off using Bluetooth.

Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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My assumption comes from the fact that there is a "docking" option in the system settings of the Galaxy Note, meaning that there is support for docking stations and probably audio output for them.
I'm not saying that the Note is the only and first phone to have it, I'm just wondering if there are such cables out there and if such thing possible to be made through Micro USB.
I had an iPhone almost 2 years ago and such cable was available easily and it did really help in my car setup, and since the Note has the same slot setup of my old iPhone I would really like to know if a cable like that is somewhere out there.

Prankey said:
Well.. sorry to be a troll. However, you started this thread conveniently assuming that Headphone output through MicroUSB port of Note will work? Its not an HTC phone which has headset support.
May I know the reason for your ASSUMPTION that it would work even if you get the cable?
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Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.

Hmmm, the both the official desktop dock and car dock have a 3.5mm audio out. It seems unlikely that there would be a USB DAC in the docks themselves, which suggests that analogue audio is being piped out the microUSB port on the phone itself.
Of course, the OP could just buy the official car dock to get nice tidy cabling...

If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?

gordonshowers said:
Well, looking at this car docking station...
(Link not allowed. Search for "Genuine Samsung Galaxy Note Vehicle Dock - ECS-K1E1BEGSTD" on MobileFun)
...it clearly shows a "speaker line out" socket in one of the photos, with only one connector (i.e. the micro USB connector) attaching to the phone.
So it is most certainly possible.
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Exactly! I found out about this dock yesterday and I'm still wondering why isn't anything like of what I suggested earlier available? How come now one asked about this before!

zylor said:
If i understood the purpose of this cable, it would be:
For example:
My car supports audio input so the purpose of a cable like this would be to stream music to my car audio system and recharge de phone like a all-in-one right?
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That is exactly what I want!

Very Interested in this as well. OEM dock wont work with a case. So this would be a great alternative paired with a car cradle such as this.

biggy83 said:
Dear awesome community,
For the past month or more I've been trying to find a place where they sell Mirco-USB to 3.5mm/USB cables, but I have come to no success whatsoever!
Is such cable impossible to make? Or am I just looking in the wrong places.
Check out the attached picture that I've created to show what I need and mean.
It looks simple, right? Now, I would love to get one of these at any price.
Help me!
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This:
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This:
$7 + Shipping

I too really want one of these.
It is obviously possible as the destop & car dock do this.
The only way is, for someone with some electronics knowledge to pull one of these apart to see how its done. It would be interesting to see if it is straight audio out, or if there is a "Digital to Analogue Converter in there"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5051243939125627988
This might do the trick in the unlikely case that Note's microusb outputs audio. Tough I'm really interested in knowing for sure if the Galaxy Note microusb pumps line level audio.
Judging by the price of the desktop dock i wouldn't bet my money on the idea that it has not a dac. I

Use Bluetooth.

maybe at usbfever.com or dealextreme.com
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http://www.cablejive.com/ maybe

Audio output AND charger using the micro-usb port

Hi,
I want to have only 1 plug to insert in the Samsung Galaxy S2 to have:
- Audio output
- AND power charging
This is possible by using the micro-usb port of the Samsung Galaxy S2.
This is how the official Samsung docks works: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ECR-D1D3BEGSTA )
But I am not looking for a dock, I just want a cable ! (it is much more convenient than a dock)
This cable would be like this:
Code:
|---------> Audio output jack
Micro-USB <---|
|---------> Standard USB (type A)
Where can I buy such a cable ?
Regards, Chris

I guess you have to make one yourself. It shouldn't be too difficult.
You just have to solder a 365K resistor to the ID pin of the micro usb plug. Then solder The data pins and the ground pin to a 3.5mm socket. At last you need to solder the +5V pin and the ground pin to the USB plug.
I have to say I like the Idea of such a cable, I think i'm goibg to make one.

I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.

wurzelsepp3 said:
I guess you have to make one yourself. It shouldn't be too difficult.
You just have to solder a 365K resistor to the ID pin of the micro usb plug. Then solder The data pins and the ground pin to a 3.5mm socket. At last you need to solder the +5V pin and the ground pin to the USB plug.
I have to say I like the Idea of such a cable, I think i'm goibg to make one.
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I am very surprised, no one is manufacturing such a cable. I am sure there is a big business for it.
I have never soldered anything. It is possible to make 2, one for me as well ? I would be very happy! I am based in Paris.
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I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.
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The quality should be good, as Samsung is selling a docking stations to output the sound on a hifi system. Bad sound quality is not noticeable on basic headphones, but on a hifi system that would be catastrophic (so Samsung would not sell docking stations).

bricked_tab said:
I got the official vehicle dock and the sound coming from the line out isn't so good compared to the headphone jack. I'm wondering if the components within the dock is to blame or the phone itself (kernel?)
If the OP does find a cable that does the job I'd be keen to know how it turns out.
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You need an amp to improve the sound from the line out since it is unfiltered and not treated through the phone's yamaha pre amp.

chiefroastbeef said:
You need an amp to improve the sound from the line out since it is unfiltered and not treated through the phone's yamaha pre amp.
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Thanks a million chiefroastbeef! Luckily I have a cmoy amp and man did it make a difference. I'm keeping this post short because I don't want to hijack the thread any further so thanks again chiefroastbeef

bricked_tab said:
Thanks a million chiefroastbeef! Luckily I have a cmoy amp and man did it make a difference. I'm keeping this post short because I don't want to hijack the thread any further so thanks again chiefroastbeef
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Ahh, the cmoy, very cool headphone amp. I have a DIY AMB mini3 with an Alien dac connected to my computer. Now with the info from this thread, I really want line out! Though I must admit, 2.3.5 with poweramp sounds really good.

Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.

wurzelsepp3 said:
Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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That looks very promising, thank you for sharing!
Keep in mind, line out is unfilter, unamp audio output, so the sound will sound a bit bland. One must plug an amp into it to "color" the sound.

Good on you, wurzelsepp3. As for the audio quality between the headphone jack and line out I'm pretty sure you'll notice it but it shouldn't be a problem if you just want the functionality.
I just tested the cmoy amp in my car and it sounds good now.

wurzelsepp3 said:
Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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Excellent !!
I need such a cable too !
Can you post how you built it ? I am not good at electronics.
I guess you have taken:
- a USB (type A) cable
- a jack cable
- and a micro-USB
and then cut all of them to just keep the plugs. But then how did you joined the different cables together and how did you installed the resistor ?

wurzelsepp3 said:
Ok the Cable is finished, when plugging the cable in the phone automatically enters dock mode and outputs audio via the micro-USB port.
Quality is OK I guess (I will compare it to the quality of the 3.5mm headphone-jack output), but keep in mind that I'm not an audiophile .
The build quality of my cable is not great, but it was more or less just a proof of concept.
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Hai wurzelsepp3,
I like your cable could you please post more photos of cable end pins and give more details of connection diagram, it will help us to make one.
Thanks n advance

wurzelsepp3, can you send the description of you cable.
Regards

I made a little paint drawing to show the wiring I hope it helps.
I will try to answer any questions .

Thanks for Image
Hi wurzelsepp3,
Thanks for your Sketch, please confirm whether it is same for car dock mode and desktop mode only by change of resister value and please confirm following my comments
1) Is it possible to charge the phone as per your sketch through PC usb port and via car charger out.
2) Is it possible to hear songs from stereo socket out through stereo headphone.
3) Is it possible to connected car audio system/external sound system because i saw another link like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1249775.html
http://imghostr.me/images/5p7yC.jpg
http://imghostr.me/images/gs7Sp.jpg
http://imghostr.me/images/geac.jpg
Thanks n regards
Safeed
wurzelsepp3 said:
I made a little paint drawing to show the wiring I hope it helps.
I will try to answer any questions .
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safeed said:
Hi wurzelsepp3,
Thanks for your Sketch, please confirm whether it is same for car dock mode and desktop mode only by change of resister value and please confirm following my comments
1) Is it possible to charge the phone as per your sketch through PC usb port and via car charger out.
2) Is it possible to hear songs from stereo socket out through stereo headphone.
3) Is it possible to connected car audio system/external sound system because i saw another link like this
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Yes the only difference between car and desk-dock mode is the resistor value.
1) Yes the USB-plugs only purpose in this setup is to supply power, so any charger will do the job
2) Yes, but you have to keep in mind that the sund coming out of the micro usb port isn't amplified, so sound quality and volume are rather low, so you might wanna use an external headphone amplifier
3) Yes, as car and external audio systems have a amplifier it should work quite well.

Would something like this work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-ET-AUM3SBEBXAR-micro-USB-3-5mm-Male-Line-In-/250956064170?_trksid=p3286.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5051243939125627988

i will have 3 cables to sell on here for $25 by the end of the week. Let me know if people want them

Docking Station
Finally I made my own style 3 in 1 Dock station, includes Car dock, Home dock and auxiliary audio out with the help of selector switch. Conversion of car dock to home dock by sliding the selector switch,also possible to charge the phone from home or Car dock mode. Auxiliary audio sound is nice to hear and All items compacted in small case.
Thanks for all, to give me such idea and sketches.

Are all the micro-USB to 3.5mm jack you find on eBay the same? Do they have the same pinout/resistance required for use on the SGS2?

Pogo Case with Audio Output Connection.

I am looking for a Pogo Case that would have the HOX snap in nicely with the audio output(RCA or 3.5mm jack) that I can connect it my car/home audio system. Of course the case should also provide the charging as well.
In this way(car mode), I can listen to my mp3 collection on my HOX and answer call with it through my car audio system. Most of the case/cradle available only offer charging but no audio out.
Of course, I can use the 3.5mm jack connected to the headphone hole on the HOX and then connect the USB in car charger but this would not be convenience. Imagine if you could have the convenience of snap the HOX into a case and all are set for you.
Please do share the link if someone have come across this case...

yltan said:
I am looking for a Pogo Case that would have the HOX snap in nicely with the audio output(RCA or 3.5mm jack) that I can connect it my car/home audio system. Of course the case should also provide the charging as well.
In this way(car mode), I can listen to my mp3 collection on my HOX and answer call with it through my car audio system. Most of the case/cradle available only offer charging but no audio out.
Of course, I can use the 3.5mm jack connected to the headphone hole on the HOX and then connect the USB in car charger but this would not be convenience. Imagine if you could have the convenience of snap the HOX into a case and all are set for you.
Please do share the link if someone have come across this case...
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something like this?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc-one-x-car-mount-cradle-with-handsfree.html

treebill said:
something like this?
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/htc-one-x-car-mount-cradle-with-handsfree.html
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Not really. With this you would have to manual plug in the headphone jack which defeat the main purpose and it can't connect to my car audio system. That why I chose Pogo. But thanks anyway for sharing...

USB Audio Output

Well, I finally found out you can get audio out of the USB port and grabbed a cable from eBay. Thought life would be grand. Got the cable and it works. Still grand.
Then the problems started. Horrid pop, crackle, hiss, beeps, and bloops. Did a little homework and found apparently it's a realatively common problem, but can't seem to find much detail.
Anyone know of any fixes other than a warranty swap out as I'm sure we're well past that point now.
Thanks in advance.

Wait, so analog audio out of the USB port? Why not just use the mini headphone jack?

bigj231 said:
Wait, so analog audio out of the USB port? Why not just use the mini headphone jack?
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One cable to rule them all. This way I plug in one cable (work or car) and listen to audio and charge the phone at the same time. I'd use bluetooth in my car, but Velosters have an absolute crap bluetooth when combined with this phone.
It's just easier and less to deal with.