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Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
WM6?
mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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Will keep my fingers crossed and hope for it ... On the Himalayas & Blue Angels which started off as WM2003, there are ROMS (unofficial) for WM2003SE, WM5 (latest AKU 3.5) while on the Magician it has always stuck on WM2003SE.
So in short, pray hard. I will join you in praying as I would love to have WM6 on my trinity as well ;-)
PS : Now we got the GPS to work on the trinity, any luck to 'enable' the FM radio as well? There has been speculation on the FM Radio being available on the Trinity. :-D that would make this one of the most feature packed PPC on earth ..
I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?
i do also keep my fingers crossed!!
forcedalias said:
I agree. I don't see Trinity's successor being released anytime soon so they should just go ahead with keeping their latest phone up to date.
As for the FM radio, hell yeah, if it's there, why the hell not enable it? Oh, wait, don't tell me... is the FM radio conflicting with the Bluetooth?
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if we can DUMP an original Hong Kong ROM from Trinity we can make a FM Radio test with European or American version
mo7al said:
Everybody these days is discussing the upcoming GPS ROM for our favorite Trinity, but the next question is: will a new ROM come out to upgrade our baby to the newly announced Windows Mobile 6.0 ?
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I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en
lvsw said:
I can create WM6 Rom for Trinity! But now mamich tools work incorrectly with Hermes & Trinity!
addfile.exe not working with Trin & Herm
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Would be great!
greatsokol said:
Would be great!
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Would be great if mamaich create new build "mamich tools" with new addfile.exe
Without new version addfile.exe I can't create new FirWare
Floriz said:
Where did you get the build files? Is there an image for the windows device emulator too?
edit: Found it!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...74-18b7-4af8-9fe1-0de049b6b3e9&DisplayLang=en
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I think theres a fair chance of a WM6 tom given that the Trinity is reasonably new, from all accounts there is no Trinity successor on the horizon, and with all their variants im sure the Hermes/Trinity will recieve user-made WM6s.
Fingers crossed anyway.
Fingers crossed for all that bought it sure, but there ARE trinity/tytn successors in the horizon.
For example look for HTC Kaiser, a thinner Tytn with GPS (i.e. everything that tytn and trinity is now).
Don't expect an official update. This is the reply I received from HTC:
Thank you for your enquiry concerning the HTC P3600 mobile device.
Unfortunately we will not upgrade our current devices to include the Mobile 6 software.? However, there will be new devices out which will include the software.
Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at Http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com
quite strange! Microsoft annunced yesterday WM6 saying it will be possible to upgrade some "old" devices like t-mobile dash with WM6!
The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.
Tytan you are not very long in the PocketPC world eh?
"possible to upgrade" doesn't mean "the vendor will do it"
same happened in the past (more than once)
Well ... if they in fact do not release a WM6 update for the D810, then it will only hamper their sales in Australia, seeing that they only released the D810 on Jan 16th (1 month ago). So, as new WM devices are released with WM6, it will make it hard to compete if they do not provide a WM6 update ... regardless of all the functions this puppy has.
ZakMcRofl said:
The question is: when will they release an official P3600 successor?
And how much it will cost. And if it is worth waiting for it.
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We have already talked about that. Look at google.
Couple of announcements started coming out from 3GSM on upgrades, Imate to upgrade a few, Palm to upgrade Treo, nothing from HTC so I doubt it.
I've found HTC to be follower not a leader in these type of things, same goes for their products, they are only inavative if they have to be. I guess if enough people complain and they get enough bad rap they might but from everything I've seen with HTC, they couldn't give to <fill in any explicit word here> about their customers.
Doesn't matter, Trinity will tied me over until some of those new Imate devices come out, if they live up to the specs coming out of 3GSM, there will be some pretty amazing devices, I can't want to see the clamshell one, hope it comes in HTC killing black as well as gold
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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...47-6e06-4a0c-8cac-ca7d4c09cb56&DisplayLang=en
Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
callserv[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!
perhaps, but unlike others at least they're talking about it.
maninwhitecoat said:
Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!
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Was just about to post this myself
I think the crux of the matter will be, will it cost HTC anythin to supply a WM6 rom for existing devices? It will cost a bit in development, but would they have to pay MS for licensing?
I'm sure the answer is yes - so they wont do it.
Call me a pessimist if you like . . . Im relying on a clever rom cooker out there!
Rob
maninwhitecoat said:
Asked HTC about WM6 for my tytn this morning and here's what they say:
Good Morning,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe regarding a query about ROM update.
We are currently awaiting an official response from our Head Office on the matter of ROM updates from Windows Mobile 5.0 to Windows Mobile 6.0. We hope to have an answer for you soon.? Please contact us again in a few weeks and we may be able to give you an update.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Regards,
HTC European Support team
[email protected]
HYPERLINK "file://www.htc.com"www.htc.com
How awesome is that?! Lets hope they say yes!!
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Did anybody notice that only htc vox from three new handsets (forth one has been removed from htc site) presented at 3GSM has wm6 preinstalled. I think that htc will do an upgrade of some handsets with wm5. Let's hope I'm right!
cheers
HTC released upgrades for exisiting devices from PocketPC 2003 to WM5 and is busy on other devices for update to WM6, also from WM5 to WM6 'so it could be possible that the TYN gets one from WM5 to WM6.
*fingers crossed*
Maarten_NL said:
HTC released upgrades for exisiting devices from PocketPC 2003 to WM5 and is busy on other devices for update to WM6, also from WM5 to WM6 'so it could be possible that the TYN gets one from WM5 to WM6.
*fingers crossed*
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as far as i know htc never released any OS upgrades... and i've had htc devices since the XDA 1.
Why are we all excited for WM6? They can't even get WM5 right on this device!
I dont see any reason to wait for WM6. With WM5 works solid, and i dont see any changes from WM5 to WM6!! Changes of OS from one year, are not enough from Microsoft.
dodadent;1141193 said:
I dont see any reason to wait for WM6. With WM5 works solid, and i dont see any changes from WM5 to WM6!! Changes of OS from one year, are not enough from Microsoft.
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Well for one, the email client is supposed to be better, also PIE has some updates, but the biggest thing for me is that I spend hours a day behind a remote desktop session from my TyTN, and the client in WM6 is so much better from what I have read, clipboard support..no more transferrin docs to retrieve text....also its supposed to have sound support also...I run streaming media services, and being able to preview audio before I encode it etc..that would be incredibly helpful. And also when you don't rewrite an OS completely you build upon it, work out bugs, and add improvements, plus I guess if you only talk on your device...its not gonna be much different.
I tend to see some people sayin the same thing about the PC OS's, its like they expect a whole new experience with each OS.
When you completely redo the OS everytime you only tick off software designers, There are improvements there, just take the time to look.
i agree, heavy users of their devices will have huge amounts of program data running at one time, (i do) and sometimes it lags, other times it fails to load new programs. I read that the memory paging was better in WM6 than it is in WM5 so lets hope so!
Here's sort of a kick in the pants. Check out what the article says about HTC and WM6. Hmm...http://www.pocketpcmag.com/mobile/webguide.asp
I dont see any reference to it in the pdf that describes it.
anyone know?
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Please read the Wiki. Official WM6 ROM release doesn't come with Office2007. There maybe hope in the Europe WWE release, but doubtful.
Microsoft is planning to offically release Office2007 this fall sometime as a free upgrade to WM6 users, so I've read. If this has changed, then correct me.
Sounds reasonable - they have to use the Windows Update Util for something after all
Smiffy.
thank you
sorry, I should have tried to read the wiki first
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I am on Dopod latest WM6 rom and I amable to open docx files no problem?? does it mean that it is 2007 ??
does it mean that it is 2007 ??
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If you open docx and xlsx, the answer is Yes. Probably you ROm was filled with the Office Mobile 2007 appz.
Well it is standard Official DOPOD WM 6 ROM. The only thing I have installed is OneNote Mobile... From One Note App on my Lappy.
Many cooked ROMs come with Office2007. Satin does (minus OneNote, which can be installed separately).
I'm pretty impressed with O2K7. PowerPoint is particularly good. It renders presentations very well indeed, including transitions.
bobbyelliott said:
Many cooked ROMs come with Office2007. Satin does (minus OneNote, which can be installed separately).
I'm pretty impressed with O2K7. PowerPoint is particularly good. It renders presentations very well indeed, including transitions.
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Mine is not Cooked man
Official O2 UK WM6 ROM contains Office 2007...just thought you'd like to know
Smiffy.
Lordsmiff said:
Official O2 UK WM6 ROM contains Office 2007...just thought you'd like to know
Smiffy.
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Is teh O2 ROM available anywhere besides the O2 site ??
Go get it
http://rapidshare.com/files/46408789/RUU_Hermes_O2_UK_3.54.206.1_6275_1.47.00.00_108_Ship.exe
I think the wiki needs to be updated then. The dopod rom (and my flavor of it) have Office 2007 apps.
Lordsmiff!
Thanx...
Have you got any comments on the ROM ?? maybe some screenshots ?? vbmenu_register("postmenu_1409703", true);
I don't know if I'm gonna flash it yet - been a serial flasher but I'm happy at the mo with black satin
I'll probably give it a run tomorrow
Smiffy.
Here is the CAB I used for my Onenote...
I was under the impression that no released version of Office 2007 Mobile has the ability to open .%%%x documents yet, and that this would be available as a downloadable update in the fall.. I read that on Jason Landridge's blog.
The version of Office 2007 Mobile that comes in the Treo 750 WM6 ROM definitely cannot open .docx, xlsx, etc.
My DOPOD ROM I looked in the WORD Mobile Settings and I see that the default template is set to .docx so I guess it does open *.%%%X files, plus I have tryed to open docx and xlsx files and no problem
Official HTC wm6 also includes Office 2007, minus outlook :-(
So you get: Powerpoint, Word and Excel.
Outlook is the old one and OneNote can be installed from pc if you have Onenote on it.
one note mobile cab in english
does any1 have the onenote mobile cab in english?
Operating system maker Microsoft is currently working hard on delivering the next version of Windows Embedded CE in November and on tapping the lucrative market for service-enabled devices. Kevin Dallas, general manager of Microsoft's Windows Embedded Business group, said the company plans to launch Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2 on Nov. 15 at the Embedded Technology 2007 show in Yokohama, Japan, known as one of the "world's largest trade show and conference for embedded system designers and managers."
The new operating system will be the foundation for service-oriented devices, Dallas told eWEEK in an interview. Windows Embedded CE 6.0 will feature support for Web services on devices, VOIP (voice-over-IP) video technology capabilities and Internet Explorer updates. "We're clear on the opportunity moving forward and we're going to deliver an operating system to go into an intelligent device," Dallas said.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2203123,00.asp
Any chance we can get this to work on Trinity? I have been told that upgrading to 6 at the moment is pointless as it is very slow, whilst this release fixes that and is the same speed as WM5.
Nighthawk2050 said:
I have been told that upgrading to 6 at the moment is pointless as it is very slow, whilst this release fixes that and is the same speed as WM5.
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I haven't noticed much change in speed although it uses more program memory.
It is much slower than WM5.
Nighthawk2050 said:
It is much slower than WM5.
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You are the first one to hear something like that...
Are you serius???
When you are in a clean install try to open the windows folder (with hidden file's enable) in wm5 and try it in wm6 to understund and see what you say.
After that post the result's...
He he
I don't think wm6 is slower than wm5 at least not the versions I have been trying out over the months,plus the icons on wm6 are kind of different and smoother so this could cause the system to lose some speed.
As for the battery,both last the same to me,these are just my personal experiences.
If you ask me wm6 is faster I can notice just by opening the file explorer.
Nighthawk2050 said:
It is much slower than WM5.
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What?!?!?!?...I don't think so...In my opinion, WM6 is way faster...
This is something that has been so debated...
I believe this is talking about real WM6. What we consider WM6 is just a nicer looking WM5 with a few changes. I believe WM 5.2.2 is what WM6 is for us, and the WM6 they're talking about is the real deal.
WM6 is quite faster than WM5
The best way to emphasize the performance difference between WM5 and WM6 is effectively to browse files in the system library.
Difference is huge...
What your talking about there is accessing lists of files, what we are talking about is opening times of applications etc. as in performance benchmarks. WM5 on Trinity is much faster than WM6 in its current form. Hense the reason for the new update from MS.
Windows Embedded CE has nothing to do with Windows Mobile.
Beg to differ as this is will be for both for devices and for mobiles
see below
http://www.windowsfordevices.com/news/NS8714882631.html
Oct. 22, 2007
Microsoft reportedly has been talking more than usual about the future of embedded Windows OSes. Recent revelations range from the short-term -- the release of "Windows CE 6.0 R2" next month -- to a long-term vision of "MinWin," the stripped-down kernel that will be at the heart of "Windows 7."
Windows CE 6.0 R2, XP Embedded SP3, Vista Embedded
Regarding Windows CE 6.0 R2, Kevin Dallas, general manager of Microsoft's Windows Embedded business group, used an interview with our sister publication, eWEEK.com, to reiterate plans first revealed in his keynote at September's Embedded Systems Conference (ESC) in Boston. The new version of Windows CE will feature new support for Web services on devices, new VoIP (voice-over-IP) video technology capabilities, and Internet Explorer updates, he said.......................
Or
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 R2 Launch
http://msevents.microsoft.com/CUI/W...&EventCategory=2&culture=en-US&CountryCode=US
It's WinCE not mobile!
As for WinMob, M$ will update WM6 Standart to Wm 6.1 Standart at may 2008.
http://www.fiercedeveloper.com/story/microsoft-blogger-leaks-windows-mobile-6-1/2007-10-02
New type of menu will be available in wm7 Prof wich will be released in 2009
any news for trinity???
My experience tells me that if there is device to receive upgrade last ... then it must be Trinity
wait..only for 3 days
hdubli said:
wait..only for 3 days
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..and counting..
why do we have to wait 3 days ?!
ANYONE HAS DUMP OF WM6.1 ?????
it got released on trinity ?!?!
i don't think so ...
ftp://xbeta:[email protected]/9000rom/ROM_19195_0123.rar
For Hermes, build number fake, but 1.0.0 aku core real. (winmobile 6.1)
chavonbravo said:
ftp://xbeta:[email protected]/9000rom/ROM_19195_0123.rar
For Hermes, build number fake, but 1.0.0 aku core real. (winmobile 6.1)
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I 've dumped 6.1 for trinity, but there is a provxml that will be check, after costumizing, it blocks on rom splash. I have to investigate for all provxml...
ervius said:
I 've dumped 6.1 for trinity, but there is a provxml that will be check, after costumizing, it blocks on rom splash. I have to investigate for all provxml...
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You're saying that you've seen a trinity w/6.1 flashed from factory on it and then dumped it??
chavonbravo said:
You're saying that you've seen a trinity w/6.1 flashed from factory on it and then dumped it??
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no, I'm saying that I ported form the ones for hermes: the "PDAViet" now is on my trinity...
coooooool =)
new roms are coming for ours trinitys =)
hope that the GUI is improved and speed too !
I am looking forward to the wm 6.1 ROM!!!!
Go on...
ervius said:
no, I'm saying that I ported form the ones for hermes: the "PDAViet" (fake I think...!) now is on my trinity...
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can you give me the rom?ths!
Only Ervius can release a Wm 6.1 rom version.
Fake or not also Schaps will release one for Hermes and so we will wait
for an Ervius's new.
Bye
Could someone upload on a different mirror??
chavonbravo said:
ftp://xbeta:[email protected]/9000rom/ROM_19195_0123.rar
For Hermes, build number fake, but 1.0.0 aku core real. (winmobile 6.1)
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gives an error, file is corrupted
am i missing something here? every screenshot i've ever seen of 6.1 was smartphone.. and pdaviet's announced release still looks exactly like 6, except for what's displayed in the device info screen (unlike the smartphone 6.1 which is pretty different from wm6)
racerx_ said:
am i missing something here? every screenshot i've ever seen of 6.1 was smartphone.. and pdaviet's announced release still looks exactly like 6, except for what's displayed in the device info screen (unlike the smartphone 6.1 which is pretty different from wm6)
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Same thing here
All the pictures of WM 6.1 are from Windows mobile standard edition (Smartphone).
ref: http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/
Only few future devices are rumoured to have 6.1 profesional (Touch screen). But no pictures for that any where.
ppc device with WM6.1
PPC rumored to have WM6.1 Professional
Samsung SGH-i900
T-Mobile MDA Ameo 16GB (HTC Athena)
Palm Drucker Windows Mobile 6.1 PDA Phone (Touchscreen)
If someone can get hold of it and get a dump would be nice for the xda-dev community.