I am new to this community (this may even be one of my first posts, i cant remeber) but ive read alot of what is going on.
this is no matter what people say a good site....but recently its unbearably slow which is really killing the community sharing help etc, the ftp got wiped out, im sure alot of the members who put worki into that are extremely annoyed, and finally there are so many people on the forum posing the same old 'help i did this' stuff...which leads to the conclusion that the faqs need an update.
well i am unsure of who the admin(s) are but it looks like you guys are struggling or do not have the time to solve these issues on your own.... which i can appreciate.
so i for one would like to offer some help...and im sure the older more experienced members would lend a hand too.
my initial thoughts would be to get some of you veterans to update the faqs try to incorporate the whole upgrading and downgrading as simply as possible... far too many ppl are trying 2005. o and a nice clear sign about the mda3 unlocking.
the other thing i feel is a necessary step is to make the ftp readonly to normal users and have a set of superusers with write access...these would be the people that use it the most or are well respected members...if someone other than them have something worth uploading then they need to send it to a superuser to check and do... its a minor point but it would provide some security without hindering those superusers that need to upload regularly.
finally the slowness.. i dont know whats causing it but theres a solution to every problem...if the server has a low throughput im sure i read somewhere someones company was willing to donate a dedicated server to our cause...wouldnt evev need donations with that.
well theres my 2 pence what do you guys think? i want this community to keep going..the only way thats gonna happen is by putting some effort in!
Tim
I wholeheartedly agree.
In recent months there has been a real decline in the quality of this forum, and though it's not particularly anyone's fault, there is SO much repetition and laziness by so many people who post the same questions AGAIN and AGAIN without taking the time to search first. There's fresh examples of this within the past day!
I don't know how others feel, but as far as I'm concerned there are certain rules that should be followed if a forum is to keep it's usefulness and keep to a structured order. I used to run one many moons ago so I know what I'm talking about. Firstly, people seem to post wherever they want, regardless of content. I can't count the number of times I've seen "help crashed my XDA2 going up to WM2003SE" in General or Development/Hacking. 99 times out of 100 it will be the Country ID error, something I've read about so many times I could now fix in my sleep. I can understand people's panic when this happens as it happened to me as well, but what I did was calm down, get on here and search for Country ID errors. Low and behold, DCS and edSub to the rescue and within half an hour I was back on the road to Upgradeville.
Secondly, there's been a general increase in the rudeness of people posting; from new members and old. Some think that it's OK to post half their question in the Subject, then go "anyone got any ideas?". Then when there's no response within a few hours, the same poster is back saying "no one seen this?" or with some insult about people not helping. Even I've had an odd dig the odd time, so I know how easily it happens.
Thirdly, the WM2005 interest is hacking me off. I can appreciate it if it solves the problems of those using it over 2003SE, but (and I can't believe I'M saying this) just cos it's out there doesn't mean we have to have it - especially considering the risks of such a topic. I'm no legal expert on this but I know MS have been coming down HARD on ANYONE hosting or posting screenshots / divulging information about an alpha product (AFAIK). I wish the moderators would remove this, and then emphasise, as they have done on tekguru, that they will not comment / tolerate any hosting or screenshots etc. I don't want to see this site shut down, and I've posted about it before, only to find a few days later some idiot HAS uploaded the files to the FTP. I bet it hasn't helped the recent slowness, quite aside from its illegality!!
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php?article=5813
I agree Tim, I too would love to lend a hand where needed. I would be happy to help with constructing more up to date FAQs like on tekguru, and I completely agree that FTP needs to be readonly to all new users and most regular members also (prob inc me :shock: ). This site needs to get back on track, as it's still by far the most useful and helpsite resource for XDA/MDA/whatever and I would hate to see it go down the pan.
Ant
glad to see i'm not the only one willing to lend a hand
if we can get a few more people willing to help then it wont take very long at all to get this place going well again
I think Admins have abandoned XDA-Developers site time ago,but in some topics I read that they were busy with the Xanadux Project(Linux port),try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
So,I agree partially,there is no return from hold Win2k5,we need to keep it, we are a community,we will not share it in the FTP for security but need to know more about it,reverse it. You can't stop the knowoledge! Also Win2k3SE for XDA2,it is not officially announced,but you can read plenty of posts.
Some minor things to Upgrade,Improve in this site are:
-Create a CHAT in the site: Many users will benefit to this live communication,not only posts.
-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
-Avatars disappeared, admin told it is for couple of weeks,some months ago.
-Improve the Search engine: Did you try to search something? it will return too many post,unrelated.
-Find and fix why XDA-Developers is so slow.
heh you just reminded me...the chat thing
i thought it would be nice to do an irc channel
and thanks for the info i will email peter... if the admins are busy with xanadux thats fine (im quite interested in the project) but we could do with someone to step in and keep this place running (peter?) and to organise a team to do what we all see as the issues.
as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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as to the legality of win mob 2005...ive never cared about legal issues personally...but from the point of view of admin it must be removed off of xda dev...if someone hosts it somewhere and links it in a foum be it on their head... but xda dev cannot host it for their own safety
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Exactly, MS have shut down sites for simply having posted screenshots, or at least told them in no uncertain terms, to remove them. To find we have uploaded installation files to this site is a big concern to me and MUST be sorted.
Count me in!
Hi all,
I've been scrounging through these forums for a while now and have learnt a lot - cheers to all with the knowledge who are willing to share. I've managed to unlock XDA 1, 2 and 2s (ok, had to pay to sim unlock MDA3 - but found the link here! ;-) ) recently as mentioned we have a painfully slow site, a simple search provides 50 pages of mostly unrelated threads, 10 pages of which are all about the same thing! I'm more than happy to help sort out some proper FAQ pages; I've cocked up on ROM flashing due to country ID too! It's a panicky situation - none of us wants a 200-400 pound paperweight! In short - count me in for hands on help, I'd love to learn more but also help the others out a bit.
Mike
well i sent a pm to peter and no reply as yet (its only been a day so im not giving up yet) but i just read another post of someone tring to get in contact and he seemed to have very little luck... im running out of ideas here i want to help but if the main ppl are not around then we cant really do much... it looks like the admin team have gone completely awol ... im almost tempted to say we should find someon willing to do free hosting (someone mentioned it in one of th forums) and mirror the site...but that defeats the idea of having one nice place... id raher fix than replace....anyone got any ideas?
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try to ask more to Peter Poelman e Lumpistefan about admins. 8)
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I'm far away being an admin or anything else here. :roll: I'm just a normal user as you are...
But I've talked to a few of the xda-deveolpers team at the fair cebit in the middle of march. They have lot of work, so this maybe the point why they aren't so often in the forum. And i think for 99% the community just works well without any of those "admins"...
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-NEW Profiles: add XDA3,Magician,etc..options
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The profiles (XDA and XDA II) are a special patch for the phpBB-Software. Sadly this patch do not allow more than two profiles. This is the case why only those 2 profiles exists and why the forum is splitted in seperate sections (XDA, XDA II, MAgician, Blueangel, ...)
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Stefan
hey thanks for the info lumpistefan
tis a bit of a shame we cant get hold of someone able to solve the slowness and ftp issue!
with regards to the faq's im gonna try and make an introduction to the himalaya cover sim lock flashing and a few other important things in my spare time if anyone feels like working on the other hansets feel free.. my plan is to do it over next couple of weeks and post it for review make sure i cover everything.
Looks like the site is starting to get quicker again.
Well done to who ever fixed this.
Much more enjoyable browsing through the posts.
Keep up the good work.
Amphetamine dust on the cpu did the trick.
Thank you tim_programmer for starting this topic.
I am coming towards the end of a project that's been keeping me busy. Once finished, I would be happy to lend a hand also.
Whilst lumpistefan has a point about admins, I believe they are needed. Human nature dictates that while the cat's away the mice will play. Trouble is, some of the mice (the 1%) are turning into rats
As regards WM2005, although I don't agree in censorship in that we should be able to discuss it, etc., it is obvious that Microsoft are not going to tolerate very much and we (the site) are on very thin ice by allowing hosting of content and links, etc. Again, it is the admins duty to sort this out. We have pushed the envelope with stuff before, but that involved already released products.
Some of us reverse, some of us hack. We can still do that when WM2005 is released officially (in whatever language )
i agree server has got quicker...tis nice
with regards to wm2005 its only the hosting im concerned with everything else like discussing hacking reverse engineering go for it!
Ummm.... (I'm feeling like I might regret this...) it wouldn't be that hard to start an alternative website for these machines. Not that I wish to minimise the huge contribution made by xda-developers.com to the understanding and improving of these HTC devices, but if the admins on this site don't have the time to moderate it and manage it and don't respond to offers of help or support then perhaps we should form an alternative?
I'm a web developer and have worked in the past with the Minerva forum/website package ( www.project-minerva.org ) and it's very very good when you're looking for a website-in-a-box. It wouldn't be so hard to set it up and try to take some of the load off xda-developers.com while acknowledging the work that's been done here so far.
Edit - as for the site getting quicker, well it isn't for me. Just took 5 minutes to submit this post...
I don't often look at this site these days because the speed is so bad. It'll be losing regulars already I'm sure.
wow. this hasn't been posted in in forever. Sorry to revive this but there is some good info here. I want to help get this site back on track as well. I have tons of free time to dedicate as well.
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
But what can you do ? You can't just ban people, because its normally just done once or twice by somebody when they are desperate for a solution.
The problem here is, as was said higher up, the number of threads on the same subject almost makes the search useless because it is hard to find the one with the definitive answer. I try to help people but when you see a question that has been asked numerous times before you think "why should I bother, I'll have to search to point hime in the correct direction, so why can't he"
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
I agree with everythig that has been said in this post, I have been browsing xda-developers for about 3 years now, altho i have only been registered about a year, as my contribution has been very little.
However i feel that my knowledge has increase greatly, mainly due to this site, and i would love to help with FAQ's, Admin, Reviews, and anything else you guys want help with. I dont have a lot of free time, but any that i do have i will gladly donate to xda-developers in the hope that we can make this site what it used to be.
I think it is obvious that something needs to be done, but at the moment we only have suggestions and unless someone steps forward with a solution that is all this post is going to be. (this sounds a bit harsh, sorry).
So here's to keeping the community alive.
Dahquim
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
What I did suggest was that duplicated posts/repeated topics were moved to a repetition bin, and deleted after a week. But at the moment the amount of work for the mods each day would be huge.
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This would be a massive task, sure, but a site this big could do with more moderators to move and delete duplicate posts. There are a lot of people who have been a member of this site for quite some time who I am sure wouldn't mind chipping in to help if they were asked, I know I would like the chance to give more back to this site after the help, support and knowledge I have gained. How many moderators do we have at the moment? Just my thoughts, I love this forum and would love to help improve it.
domain expires this year!
kevino said:
Yep, got to agree. The main problem is lazyness by posters. No one reads http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534.
There are so many infringements of 1,2,and 5.
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Yes but that's your standard problem on all forums. The underlying problem is that the administrators have abandoned us. We need a few full time mods to make everything runs smoother. A LOT needs to be updated.
One of the biggest problems i noticed with the site immediately was it's speed. The one place we can improove the sites speed almost instantly is the search. There is NO search flood control in place. There is also no limit on the minimum size of a search string. So it's capturing at the at, or, it, to, etc. searches. Id needs to have wildcards enabled. and filter out two letter searches. (maybe even three, but with the phone names the filtering might just be a pain)
Also i don't know if anyone realizes but www.xda-developers.com will expire on 12/12 of 2006. I have emailed the person that is registered under the domain name and haven't received a reply yet. If i don't soon I may just go to a third party and reserve the domain when it expires. Although there's also the problem of getting all the infinite information off this guys server which is probably sitting in his basement in the netherlands.
It would be ideal to get another server and mirror this site on it as .net or something. But i don't know if we currently have enough traffic to generate the kind of revenue needed to keep the thing paid for.
And as a side note. Does anyone know how i can download from the ftp? It just disconnects me instantly with flashfxp, firefox, or ie.
[edit] also the search needs to have more options and a "titles only" search would greatly help narrow things down. There needs to be a "README: How to search" sticky detailing boolean searches.
I figure that there are a lot of Cingular/at&t service users on here so I figured we should have a thread where we can share at&t specific knowledge and questions.
This will hopefully help to expand knowledge and help to educate those new to the 8525 as well as the veteran flashers.
and heck while we are at it maybe form a at&t employee ring...??
This thread is annoying, cause judging from your other posts, its pretty fair to say that you won't be doing any of the support.
It can't be any worse than on the real AT&T forums. If you ask a question there the douche bag moderators will just close it.
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douche bag moderators
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is why i am banned from the cingular forums... their "so called" support forum is horrible...
community
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This thread is annoying, cause judging from your other posts, its pretty fair to say that you won't be doing any of the support.
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i am not starting this saying that i am offering all the support. i started this as a place for at&t/cingular users to share and hopefully have some of the veteran cooks and programs stop in and share.
i will try to help as best i can and try to post links to a lot of a at&t fixes that are out there in the forum so that we can get as much of them as we can in one place.
i just know that as some have stated the cingular support forums are worthless for the most part.
if the mods feel this is a waste of space they can close it, its not a really big deal.
this was just an idea, my $0.02
Shogun, are you sure you getting banned from AT&T forums wasnt a direct result of the nude photos you posted of yourself?
for starters...
link to wpbear's Cingular WAP CAB Setup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1163312
one of many cingular keyboard fix cabs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1332269#post1332269
Shogunmark Cab Repository
http://shogunmark.com/
This might be better off as a plea for a Cingular-specific forum. Do you think the volume of Cingular-specific issues warrants the fragmentation another forum would bring?
People here actually visit the Cingular/AT&T support forums? There is noooo way I could put up with that place myself, I have to admit that amused me that you are banned, Mark.
Shiego, I would have PM'd you this to avoid disrupting the thread anymore, but I wanted to apologize here, Im sorry, I see you are atleast putting forward an effort to make this useful, which I haven't seen a whole lot of before, with these type of threads.
Back when I still used my AT&T Wireless OGO I visited the AT&T Wireless support forums. Notice the distinction though, it used to be that, then the Cingular support forums, and now its the at&t/at&t mobility forums. Whatever I never got any good info from there. I use this forum here and Howardforums thats about the only place I get good info. I actually do have a question and I am sure I am in the minority here, when using the Mobile IM app I can no longer hit the enter key to send, in WM5 I just hit the enter key and it sent a message. I am sure I am the only person that uses that app though. Well good luck with the support forum, I will offer any info I have, I used to work for Cingy for 2 years
I have visited the Cingular/AT&T forums, and I also noticed that the moderators closed many threads, so I rarely drop into that site anymore. I actually found a reference to XDA there and that is how I found this forum the same week I bought my Hermes.
Hope you fellow ATTers will be kind and tolerate a Trinity owner crashing this thread too! This thread seems like a very good idea to me.
Dunno how long this has been the case, but today I discovered that the username/password [email protected] / CINGULAR1 is no longer needed... at least not in Los Angeles. All that I need enter now is the wap.cingular APN. Can leave the other fields empty. BTW according to the info in their DevCentral pages the APNs are gonna be renamed wap.att etc. That doesn't work for me yet tho.
This is probably old news, but all the new personal PDA Connect/PDA Max accounts are now provisioned for the wap APN only. You now have to upgrade to a tethered or laptop plan to get isp APN access. I am guessing that business customers on plans like PDA Enterprise might get the isp APN, but I haven't checked. I would also assume if you have an older plan with isp access that won't change so long as you keep the same data plan.
I've been having a few probs with Direct Push and maintaining a solid data connection the last couple of weeks. I have hard reset and upgraded my Radio ROM twice (though it could still be ahradware prob I guess and also made sure my Push settings are shorter than the published ATT firewall timeouts. Any reason why Direct Push shouldn't work through the NAT translation on the wap APN? Seems to have always been OK before (also worked fine on T-Mo).
More importantly, I am also finding that if I lose signal alltogether (e.g. take an elevator to a basement floor then come back up) my phone reconnects for voice OK but refuses to reconnect for data (message says the data connection was refused). I have to soft reset or at least go in and out of flight mode.
Any thoughts? TIA
shigeo said:
link to wpbear's Cingular WAP CAB Setup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1163312
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1360192&postcount=1
This link may be better since this has the CAB for WAP, Kyb, and ATT Proxy settings all in one. ATT Specific is toward the bottom the post since the top is for many apps.
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This thread is annoying, cause judging from your other posts, its pretty fair to say that you won't be doing any of the support.
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That is really FUNNY!!!!! I did not do research on the OP but still very funny.
.....and this has what to do with WM6....or even the Hermes in Specific?
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Shogun, are you sure you getting banned from AT&T forums wasnt a direct result of the nude photos you posted of yourself?
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I guess they didnt like my version of the Cingular Jack
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I have to admit that amused me that you are banned, Mark.
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Well just to clear the air on that... i spoke out against their poor moderation, as we as a few other users, which they didnt like... i had posted screen shots of wm6 running on my phone, which they didnt like... then i posted a link to my forum for PTT users to help people find other people with PTT (was 1 post), then they said i was spamming the board and banned me.. so FK them.. but if anyone wants to see what true n00bs are like they need to spend some time there, you will feel much better about this place.........
I'm inclined to move this thread somewhere for better exposure but am not sure.
@shigeo: is it your intention to have this be a WM6 Hermes AT&T support thread? If not, let me know your intentions and I'll move it to a more appropriate forum.
I think it should be moved directly to the main HERMES forum and be made a sticky.
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I think it should be moved directly to the main HERMES forum and be made a sticky.
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no sticky... if we did it for one then we would have to do it for everyone.. then it would become a mini HoFo
hah.. should have phone provider support for everyone.. since most cell carrier websites are filled with idiots..
Hi. My name is Joe and I just signed up here within the last few days. So I want to take this time and introduce myself to you all.
I live in Washington state of the U.S. 15 minutes South from down town Seattle. My wireless providor is Verizon.
I'm not sure why but ever since I went to see Depeche Mode August 10 and I lost my phone I have become interested in phones. It took me loosing mine to become really interested lol. So since about August 12 I have been researching phones to replace my lost one. I have learned a little along the way and I hope to keep learning.
Well I hope to get to know some of you as friends online and I hope I can keep learning and eventually in some way help others.
Joe
Welcome to forums
I strongly recommend you to read deeple the Wiki
Read, search, respect and enjoy!
Thanks. What doyou mean deeple the wiki?
i think he means that make sure you read all the information that you look for through wiki site before asking too much question
Welcome to forums
I like make friends.
Welcome and have fun on XDA! Happy Flashing!!
Welcome to our beloved forums..
I live in Pandaan, (Malang - East Java) Indonesia
Part_D
Hi buggs1a !
Welcom to the Site. I hope you'll learn a lot, and then you'll be capable to get a nice WM device and flash it at your convenience.
For everything you need, first step is reading the stickies in the top of forums, and the Wiki (that's the place where you can search into an encyclopaedic mode of the forum, where people posted articles about "what is" or "how to")
And I hope to find you at the Kaiser section, flashing ROMs and sharing what you enjoy. - yes, that would mean you finally get a kaiser or Tilt as your new phone.
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Hi. My name is Joe and I just signed up here within the last few days. So I want to take this time and introduce myself to you all.
I live in Washington state of the U.S. 15 minutes South from down town Seattle. My wireless providor is Verizon.
I'm not sure why but ever since I went to see Depeche Mode August 10 and I lost my phone I have become interested in phones. It took me loosing mine to become really interested lol. So since about August 12 I have been researching phones to replace my lost one. I have learned a little along the way and I hope to keep learning.
Well I hope to get to know some of you as friends online and I hope I can keep learning and eventually in some way help others.
Joe
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Welcome to XDA mate. As Orb stated above I would advise you to check out the wiki for your particular device and read the stickies in your phone forum (top few threads in each forum - called stickies due to them being stuck at top of forum, and they are usually filled with useful info)
Also, moderators are here to assist, so feel free to ask a moderator for help if needed
Rick
I dont know how people will react to my thread. So I want to refer to what we stand for!
As always I want make sure everyone knows that im not a new user Ive been here for over 8 years now and seen this site just when it started I started a thread before to see If I could find some of the pioneers on the site and they give their stories to share with us.
But Ive seen them all going from my treo 750 (windows mobile) and three othe wm phones to my few android devices ive been here Ive currently reside over at the now slow dhd/inspire forums as my temporary home.
But development there has become slow not for the fact that the device has reach its limits. As the Hd2 proove this wrong. But by the fact of people that have entered development with a "indibidualist" mind set.
What is this?
Weve reach what we have over the year becoming a universal development forum ( even with iphone development) By having one state of mind and one only. Enriching each other with knowledge. This way we all make our way in to making the best of our highly paid devices. Weve all been ripped off by companies who want to take our money by simple and some times uselees upgrades or "improovements". We stood up for that and weve made phones live longer ans give us the best experience. Why should we risk this for fame. And being the "first" to do this or that!
Why would we become exclusive to what we have and dont eant to share and become improoved.
Ive been in over 5 forums were ive moved from a tester to mod makind and a Moderator at some. Ive never encounter this issue as we were all in that state of sharing and improoving. We fought only the big companies whom at times were cought by our demands like Lg on the incite... were we fought our way into inprooving the use od the gsensor.
But why would I want to take down someone who is working to improove what I did. This example happened to me with sense3.5 which till this day we dont have a proper md10 tool. Ive search the web and developed a dusk skin for a fancy widgets apk. I asked Gadget and he gladly said yes to my request. That was used and ported all over the forums like the amase and Rezound for sense 3.6. And Ive never went and took anyone out for posting what was originaly my work.
Why should anyone do it?
It only takes real development to a set back......
Food for thought!!!!:thumbup:
just wanted to speak my mind, not wanting to offend nobody...
Flashaholic Brotherhood
joefrank said:
And Ive never went and took anyone out for posting what was originaly my work.
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I think if you've put hours of work in to a particular project, then see it posted elsewhere with someone else taking the credit then you've got every right to be annoyed.
yes, and I did but when I saw what they did with my original version and idea was exceptional. Anf I ended up praising their work. At the end of the day is the attitud we have that matters. I know im not even close to been the smartest and talented so seen my idea go even further is a + for me
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