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How to delet the Extended ROM from Jasjar?

I have XDA EXEC, and flash it to JASJAR_WWE_11353_137_10301.
Then I found that the Extended ROM of Jasjar is so big and has a lot of rubbish like Optus_Settings.CAB,Vodacom_SA_WAP1.2.CAB, Vodafone_NZ.CAB, etc.
I have used Total Commander to delet them, but when I soft rest, everything still at there.
Can someone tell me how to delet the Extended ROM?
Many thanks~!!!

Just hard reset, then soft reset before the device installs the extended ROM.
If you do this you will have your device without the extended ROM.
Regards,

Thank you very much!!!
I have done it!!!
It works fine!!!!!

I understand some of the cabs on the Extended ROM are necessary for the JASJAR work properly as they patches . Could somebody list them?

I think they are
Default_CAB-Shortcut-CDL-04Aug05.CAB
Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_pIE_View.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_SSD_Shortcut_WWE.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_UNI_CDL_UAProf.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_Version.sa.CAB
Enjoy it~

You can install the CAB files which you feel it's necessary for the Jasjar on the storage card instead of the main memory.
It will work fine and will save a sufficiant space on the main storage as well.
Regards,

xdiguo said:
I think they are
Default_CAB-Shortcut-CDL-04Aug05.CAB
Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB
Default_Imate_PPC_SA_V5.5.03.cab
Default_pIE_View.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_SSD_Shortcut_WWE.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_UNI_CDL_UAProf.sa.CAB
Default_Signed_Version.sa.CAB
Enjoy it~
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I believe that the above CAB files differ according to the ROM version and to the language used.
Since I'm using the Arabic ROM build my extended ROM is different.
So, I would suggest that you should let them install first after the hard reset and note them on a peace of paper while seeing them installing one by one and then you make a hard reset again, then soft reset before the extended rom is installed and then determine which to install and which not to install, and then you can install the CAB files which you need to the storage card instead of the main memory.
Regards

Cab Files
How can you install cabs to sd memory card ? By copy pasting onto the card and then double tapping the icons? Is it as simple as that?

Cab Files
How can you install cabs to sd memory card ? By copy pasting onto the card and then double tapping the icons? Is it as simple as that?

Just copy the CAP file and past it to the SD card, then tap it from there and the installation will process.
Then, the installation will ask you whether to install the CAB file into the main memory or to the memory card.... just chose the memory card and then tap install.... it will be installed to the memory card instead of the main memory.
Regards,

just chose the memory card and then tap install.... it will be installed to the memory card instead of the main memory.
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I just installed them on the main memory as they seem to be mainly patches... from the SD will be much slower, or not?
regards.
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BetoX
iMate JASJAR
ROM Version: 1.13.53 WWE
ROM Date: 23-09-2005
Radio version: 1.04.02 (AFTER MANUAL UPDATED)
Protocol Version: 42.36.P8
ExtROM version: 1.13.137 WWE (installed manually using Total Commander)

"CLEAN" WM5 ROM?

Hi. Are there actually any ported ROMs for the Uni that allows a super-clean (i.e. purely Microsoft) WM5? Thanks.

This is exactly what i am here at the Forum for please someone step up?
Cause i foudn one in general by name one time but im not sure if they are shapped for the Universal
I guess to clarify ...
A Clean version of WM5 shapped for the Uni if possible
I want to amke sure i do not lose any features
Please help thanks
rightnow im on the newest qtek but is actign weird so im going back to my orignal imate

don't install the extended ROM...

Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?

philby said:
Can you explain SIMPLY which file is the extended ROM?
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What "ady" meant was:
1st: Install Buzz's Ext ROM Unlocker and unlock your Ext ROM.
2nd: Cut and paste them to your SD Card and save a copy on your computer for backup.
3rd: Perform a hard reset. Since you already took off the Ext ROM, you now have a pure Microsoft OS running on your device.
To answer your question, the Ext ROM is what you see being installed when you perform a hard reset. It is indicated by a progress bar during installation after a hard reset. The Ext ROM contains the customizations provided by the "Brand" name of your device.
The simpliest way to avoid the installation of the Ext ROM, if you don't want to unlock it is:
1st: Perform a hard reset.
2nd: "IMMEDIATELY" perform a soft reset by pressing the reset pin as soon as you see the "Microsoft Today Screen". By doing this, the installation of the Ext ROM is by-passed.
If you are going to ask me where to find the Unlocker. Just do a search. Hope this cleared it up.

Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.

philby said:
Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents?
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Any customisations your operator has made. It's hard to say what exactly as that changes per ExtROM (and each new version of Windows Mobile by each operator has a new ExtROM so...)
If you don't install the ExtRom you have plain Windows Mobile, if you install the Extended ROM (which it will be default) it adds patches, customisations (backgrounds, sounds, GPRS settings etc), button configurations, home page settings, add icons, remove icons, custom programs etc.
My advise is to read the wiki (link in top left) open up your ExtendedROM as the poster above advised and then customise it how you want, or just by pass it completely each time and add in what you want manually.

philby said:
Thanks for the excellent reply. Can you tell me what exactly would be excluded by not installing the Extended ROM contents? I am guessing this would be like selecting a corporate install on the O2 XDA EXEC?? Thanks again for any reply.
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xanth is absolutely right. The Ext ROM changes with each "Brand". I am attacching a link for the O2 Ext ROM explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32527
Some applications in the Ext ROM, you can deduce what it is made for like "default_Backgamon etc...(which installs the game backgamon in Imate Ext ROM) and some are similar to O2's, so let it be your guide.

why
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.

Re: why
sandrobber said:
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Actually ALL WORKS FINE with a clean install, as mentioned above, the only thing you might have to add is the settings for MMS, and video call capabilities. But ALL SOFTWARES INSTALLED WORKS. From BT to WiFi, camera app, voice dial, etc... I know because I already tried it.

Re: why
sandrobber said:
you don't want a "clean version" it would not contain any drivers, camera software or bluetooth software that make life easy. your jasjar is not clean by bypassing the ext-rom. to prove this look at your programs the zip program and voicedial do not come with a clean wm5 image.
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Well that depends on the base Windows Mobile ROM. Some will have some features, while some won't (won't fit possibly?) and would require the ExtROM to install them.
I appreciate this is a Universal thread, but one example is the BlueAngel. The SX66 doesn't come with a camera so it's ROM doesn't contain camera software and if you used that on a regular BlueAngel (XDA IIs for example) you'd need to install the camera software seperately.
Hope this actually makes sense.

what about a real clean ROM...
i mean a ROM that does not contain any of those "dog barking" junks media files and themes (there is around 8MB of these), as well as unnecessary EXTROM files. YET sparing drivers for camera, bluetooth , and other crucial drivers.
thanx

go it
then you are correct to hard reset then soft reset before your device wants to load the ext-rom

unnecessary media files are not in the ext rom
they come with the winows folder and the my doc. they r more than 8mb , and they serving for NOTHING... so stopping the erom wont save you from them

Empty ExtROM Storage, any good use for it?

Hi all,
I am currently using Jwright's WM6 ROM (so far so good, thanks J) and applied the ExtROM unlocker patch. I have 10MB free on this partition but not sure what to do with it.
I used to have Magician before and after emptying the ExtROM, I could use it for Program Files folder. But I dont think it's useful to do that for device with WM2005 or above.
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.

you could put porn in there i suppose.....

I unlocked the extrom on my uni, helmi_c 1.1 rom.
However, when I delete the contents, it always re-appears. Any files copied in there, disapear.
Help.

willy792003 said:
Hi all,
I am currently using Jwright's WM6 ROM (so far so good, thanks J) and applied the ExtROM unlocker patch. I have 10MB free on this partition but not sure what to do with it.
I used to have Magician before and after emptying the ExtROM, I could use it for Program Files folder. But I dont think it's useful to do that for device with WM2005 or above.
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.
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I too am curious about this - is there a means of adjusting the Disk On Chip to utilise the space more effectively (as can be done on the Himalaya)?
@drsqueggy - that's what the 4Gb SD card is for
@Pyrofer - it sounds like it is un-hidden but still locked, ensure it is actually unlocked (and then search forum or start another thread if problems continue)
-sf

I gotta go with porn too.

You could put a few cabs in there of programs that you like such that if you have to 'system restore' the device, the programs auto-install for you.
It's a miniature time-saver, I guess, but I don't know if such programs could be uninstalled or upgraded when you were done.
Maybe keep one song you really, /really/ like in there?
Or porn.

how bout fonts???
and why not install progs which have today plugins/ load at start up....
a media player/photo viewer....so you can swap sd cards and still play media files..

with 10 mb porn on it, I have to be quick.

Man, 10k would be more than enough time for me... I'm over the hill

my suggestion is to make best use of the space available by storing your cab files.In case one needs to reload any application behaving strange it would help besides your storage card for other things.

willy792003 said:
So anyone has any idea to make use of it? Thanks.
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I use this space for Internet Explorer Cache file. This can be easily done by changing the location of cache file in the registry.

"Not Enough Memory" troubleshooting thread

So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks

To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb

I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.

You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.

I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.

BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?

Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough

Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.

Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.

I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.

Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.

It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.

gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks

dannyoneill said:
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
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VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!

I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.

I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt

I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.

go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt

Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
eddie2k said:
then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.

Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486

[NEW ROM][WWE][Asus P527]SCHIST WM6.5 21864

The thread here is CLOSED and is moved on

download pim backup for having backup of ur device.. dont backup from asus backup.

kalpeshmist said:
download pim backup for having backup of ur device.. dont backup from asus backup.
Good Work
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what is the language?
how many memory (sire and ram) he take?

kalpeshmist said:
these are the wm6.5 build 21189 for ASUS P527.
SCHIST_21189
SCHIST_21189lite(office and taskfacade included)
youtube video link -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVVBVYrSXjI
thank you hdubli for helping me, solving the messaging inexecutable bug.
apps removed in the lite version:
opera mini, google navigator, pocketrar, adobe pdf, rss hub
pls feedback!!
SCHIST ROM Installation
METHOD #1
1> unzip the rar file.
2> make sure you are usinig windows xp (not vista) and your device is connected to the pc via activesync.
3> click Flashrom.bat. Follow the instructions.
4> Flashrom.bat will automatically open P527FUU.exe
5> browse the OS option to flash.dio.nb0.
6> 'check' os box and 'uncheck' gsm box.
7> click ????, and updating process runs. do not disconnect your device till its 100%
METHOD #2
if you are not using windows xp...
1> copy flash.dio.nb0 from the extracted folder to your device's memory card.
2> after copying, pull down the lock on the right-side of your device, then press and hold the left-side ok button and the camera button and make a soft reset.
3> you'll see an sd card flashing process running on your device. keep holding the two buttons even after the soft rest till you see a numerical percentage process running.
4> wait till it gets 100% and reboots.
**NOTE:
-- make sure the battery life of your device is more than 40% before you begin installation.
-- after updating, it is necessary to make a hard reset to your device by holding up the left-side scroll key and pressing a soft reset. keep holding the scroller up till you see a WARNING page. press the answer button.
-- there is no ASUS Backup in this ROM, may be it'll in the future. make sure you backup all your contents using PIM backup only.
-- updating from your memory card many or less times might lose your sd data. make sure you backup all your memory card files.
official roms here -- http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=P527
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thanks kalpeshmist, will try and get back to you!
do you by any chance have official p 527(preferably Indian version) rom backup in
flash.dio.nb0
GSM.dio.nb0
EXTROM.nb0
format?
I am not able to flash the official rom in both expert and normal mode!
but able to flash using sd card mode and using P527FUU.exe

superb
tried full version! Good work! wm 6.5 is really good! need to check more things but first impression is very good.

ppindia said:
thanks kalpeshmist, will try and get back to you!
do you by any chance have official p 527(preferably Indian version) rom backup in
flash.dio.nb0
GSM.dio.nb0
EXTROM.nb0
format?
I am not able to flash the official rom in both expert and normal mode!
but able to flash using sd card mode and using P527FUU.exe
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yes... i have those 3 nb0, officials. but exe shud run. u need activesync installed in ur pc nd connected to ur device.

ppindia said:
tried full version! Good work! wm 6.5 is really good! need to check more things but first impression is very good.
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here its is
the 3 nb0 (wm6.1 official indian version) is in this rar file..

Thanks
kalpeshmist said:
here its is
the 3 nb0 (wm6.1 official Indian version) is in this rar file..
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Thanks kalpeshmist, I was looking this for long time. my phone bricked when I was flashing had to use a Russian ROM to recover the phone and then tried a manila cooked rom with touch flo interface by pda.net(this is also good but slow ). But yours wm6.5 cooked ROM is very good. only problem I had was that opera browser was not working it got stuck when starting for first time even installed opera once again but still not working.
Could you also share as to what all tools you used to cook the ROM and where you got wm6.5?

kalpeshmist said:
yes... i have those 3 nb0, officials. but exe shud run. u need activesync installed in ur pc nd connected to ur device.
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some how I was not able to flash using the official utility and ROM wm6.1 it always gets stuck. I find that SD card way of updating the ROM to be the best. only problem might be that SD card has to be small and formatted correctly!

ppindia said:
Thanks kalpeshmist, I was looking this for long time. my phone bricked when I was flashing had to use a Russian ROM to recover the phone and then tried a manila cooked rom with touch flo interface by pda.net(this is also good but slow ). But yours wm6.5 cooked ROM is very good. only problem I had was that opera browser was not working it got stuck when starting for first time even installed opera once again but still not working.
Could you also share as to what all tools you used to cook the ROM and where you got wm6.5?
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yeah.. opera mini is not working.. i'll fix that in the new build. im working on wm6.5 build 21202 now.. just waiting for more responses of this 21189 and then i'll upload it..
download this opera mini cab file
it'll run fine. it runs in mine.
ppindia said:
some how I was not able to flash using the official utility and ROM wm6.1 it always gets stuck. I find that SD card way of updating the ROM to be the best. only problem might be that SD card has to be small and formatted correctly!
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sd card installation is very good and its the fastest way of flashing a rom in p527.. within a minute, the flashing's complete...
i flashed many a times with sd installation when i was testing 21189.. but then, my card reader didnt just locked the sd card.. i changed the micro sd adapter and then it starting working fine.. but again, the card was locked..... it was running fine in my p527.. the mass storage option is working fine.. but whenever i put a card reader for copying using the same adapters.. the card is locked and i cant edit...
so, i recommend to use usb installation if u r flashing it many times..!!

Secret mode in p527
in asus p527 when you
with lock on
volume down + ok + reset
release reset first
shows a secret menu. but I am not able to select any of the options do you have any idea how to select the options. none of the key pad keys work!

ppindia said:
in asus p527 when you
with lock on
volume down + ok + reset
release reset first
shows a secret menu. but I am not able to select any of the options do you have any idea how to select the options. none of the key pad keys work!
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yeah, a black screen shows with all the options... but keys r not working!!

keypad abc mode solved!!
first thing download the three..
read the instructions first from t9abc.. it'll solve ur keypad bug!!! i extracted the registries from wm 6.0!! there is still a little prob of xt9 but keypad works fine.. all u have to do when writing, close keyboard. press and hold '*' select abc mode.. and u can write sms or nething using keypad just like u had in wm6.0..
i'll fix those things in new builds..

Excellent work
Hi Kalpesh.
Excellent buddy! Nice work. was looking out for such roms. hats off to u. i hope u'll b coming with much more tweaks on it & improve it. keep it going buddy.

Shreyas said:
Hi Kalpesh.
Excellent buddy! Nice work. was looking out for such roms. hats off to u. i hope u'll b coming with much more tweaks on it & improve it. keep it going buddy.
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thnx! right now im in holidays.. will continue work after a week or so..

Hi,
Could you also upload the Kitchen for it, I tried the lite version, but t still had some extra stuff, looking for a very plain version of 6.5 with no additional applications, hope that helps, thanks for your help, not many people developing ROM's for ASUS especially not in english, lol

Kitchen
Can u plz upload the kitchen ... actually not many people around worling on p527 wwe roms...

tawheedmanzoor said:
Can u plz upload the kitchen ... actually not many people around worling on p527 wwe roms...
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let me complete with the new build first..

new build uploaded!!