I have just moved to a Universal from a Blue Angel, which is WM2003.
I am disappointed with the backup/restore functionality being removed from ActiveSync, I know the storage is non-volatile, but in just a day of use and installing programs I have had to do a hard reset, and am now wishing i had a backup I could restore from. Is there any way to do this?
Thanks..
richardkemp said:
I have just moved to a Universal from a Blue Angel, which is WM2003.
I am disappointed with the backup/restore functionality being removed from ActiveSync, I know the storage is non-volatile, but in just a day of use and installing programs I have had to do a hard reset, and am now wishing i had a backup I could restore from. Is there any way to do this?
Thanks..
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There are two good backup alternatives, spb backup and sprite backup; The first one make smaller files, the second one is faster. With Sprite backup is possible restore after a rom upgrade.
Although Sprite makes slightly larger backup images and costs US $30 you are better off being able to restore after a ROM upgrade as upgrades do come out frequently and the last thing you want to do is configure ur device from scratch!
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Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
ireneus said:
Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
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U could try sprite backup mate
but I should warn u...do not backup your messages
Would like to know this too. Entire backup, emails, accounts and everything. Have no computer so to set up outlook accounts on etc so my Uni is my baby for everything.
ireneus said:
Hi,
First of all: Happy New Year!
Over the last couple of days I have updated my Qutie 9000 for the x-th time, but now I am finally happy with the whole thing.
Installed all my tools and applied all skins and tweaks etc. Now I want to make a backup of the entire thing (OS, apps, registry etc.). So I can re-apply this backup after a crash or when I have gone to far in customising my Qutie... believe me... it happens..
Is it possible to make such a backup that you can re-apply? If not, what would be the best approach to take?
Thanks in advance.
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use spb backup... it will be optimum for your needs... and you can keep the backed up file on your storage card... so if your uni ever crashes, all you ot to do is to run the backup file....it also supports sequential backing up
kingdomraj said:
use spb backup... it will be optimum for your needs... and you can keep the backed up file on your storage card... so if your uni ever crashes, all you ot to do is to run the backup file....it also supports sequential backing up
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Quite a good program indeed. But, does it actually copy everything?
I did the mistake of backing up AKU2 and restore on AKU3.5. Crashed everything. Even if I only choose specific things.
But, nuff said. Good program, if you use it wisely.
Basically is should be a safe options is to restore (if needed) on the same OS version?
So I would only have to restore the ROM and then restore the backup?
I mean... I have a lot of tweaks and use skins on all my apps... will the registry and the applications be restored as they are now?
Thanks.
Please read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278037
Thanks... really helpful stuff!
Not to be used after an upgrade
ireneus said:
Basically is should be a safe options is to restore (if needed) on the same OS version?
So I would only have to restore the ROM and then restore the backup?
I mean... I have a lot of tweaks and use skins on all my apps... will the registry and the applications be restored as they are now?
Thanks.
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yes... you can not use it after upgrade.... for that matter when i upgraded from 3.3 to aku 3.5 and then used it to restore... the system showed aku 3.3 again.... but works great otherwise... have been using it for more thn a yr now
Sprite can restore after a ROM upgrade, SPB cant, provided you follow the instructions in the Sprite FAQ step by step, everything can be restored to the new ROM apart from pop accounts
Sprite it is...
I decided to use Sprite. Works like a charm. Thanks for all your help/advice.
Cheers,
-Ireneus
I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Sprite backup
hairyman said:
I've been using SPB Backup sucessfully for some time and its been an essential for someone who like to play around with the system as much as I do. I've been trying to find a piece of backup software that will work to produce a full backup with 6.1 as SPBs doent seem to fully work, even with the help of PIMbackup.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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Have you tried sprite backup?
I think that spb backup is the best... but i must affirm that sprite backup offerts more options than spb software (you can restore your data after a rom update)
This is a link for spirites abckup:
http://rapidshare.com/files/108897792/Sprite_Backup_6.2.1_PPC.Regged.rar.html
can you restore your installed software after you flash a different rom
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
guyvice said:
yes, all apps you've installed and your pim, all file in \My documents and registry... all.
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How can you do that and different roms have different settings, doesn't that effect current rom functionality
I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
Same release only
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I tend to find if you restore a backup with spb backup using different roms but same wm06.1 versions what tends to happen is that you end up with the rom that was backed up... BUT because there may have been different apps cooked in you find errors cropping up with soft resets needed a lot and sometimes major lockups that require hard resets.. And thats my 2 cents... cheers
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This is the same with sprite backup also.
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
ultramag69 said:
So, if you want a new rom then only backup contacts and messages as there is no point to backup complete OS... Everything needs to be reinstalled anyway. these programs are just in case of events that require hard resets, no good to backup apps or anything...
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I've you restore after a hard reset or a rom upgrade? what app have you used spb or sprite???
with spb if you do a hard reset you can restore all apps you installed and their settings, before your hard reset (but i've tested only with the same rom).
I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
UC roms
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I use SPB Backup. I was saying that the full os backup is only good for HARD RESETS as it puts the complete os, registry settings and apps onto your hermes. If you reflash your os then restore your backup it overwrites the NEW os with the OLD os, however, because the new os probably doesn't have all the apps that the old os had cooked into it you get errors as the os cant find things it requires. Hope that cleared it up instead of smearing everything with mud....
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Its also make you have issue with the new now like freezing up and etc. Its just not worth the headache. Look in UC roms it is very little work to reinstall your app. Do a search for UC roms and read up on it. I'm tell is sweet I just did it for the first time it works like a charm.
I've spent a little time adding a few apps to my current Schaps reflash, but I'm about to flash again with CRC's latest 6.1 build as there's a few lingering problems with Schaps' WM6 rom.
I backed up my data (or at least I thought I did) before flashing the first time with SPB Backup, but it didn't save my text messages.
If I decide to revert to the previous ROM, I'd love to be able to just restore it back to exactly how it was - if SPB Backup doesn't actually save all of the PIM data (including SMSes etc), what's the best backup software for our phones which can save an entire "state" of a device to rollback to?
PIMBackup seems to get everything except attachments to MMS messages.
Ah, completely forgotten about PIMBackup! I gave Sprite Backup a go this time around, I remember I tried PIMBackup out many moons ago when it first came out... But as I wasn't flashing different ROMs back then I didn't really have a use for it
is PIMBackup your personal preference?
I like SPB Backup 2. Backs up everything. Not free though....
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I use PIMbackup 2.8 its about as good as it gets...
I use PIMBackup 2.8, it fits me and it's free
Using PIMBackup 2.8, too. Free and easy to use.
Agreed, PIM Backup and UC ROMs do it for me.
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I like SPB Backup 2. Backs up everything. Not free though....
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I have that, I've just used it today because I'm having charging problems with my phone...well that's a different story.
When the backing up process finished it said that there were problems, that there was something in my windows folder could not be read it's .dll file.
I haven't tried the back up file yet since I'm still changing it to a stock rom, I'll use it after I've flashed it with josh's m2d rom again. Hopefully it did back up everything.
SPB backup 2...
....used it several times in the last couple of days...and nothing lost
Including text messages. Makes it easy to downgrade because does entire system restore after flashing to old ROM.
BAck to Square 1 after a test with just a few clicks....very cool.
gypsygirl13, I tend to find it has "several problems while backing up" but that nothing is lost. It may be that it was designed to work on WM06/6.1 and here I am using it for 6.5. Had the same teething problems with SPB Backup when 6.1 came out. However, backup 2 seems to not die like backup did. Never had trouble where I lost info (unlike SPB Backup).
I find its always the windows\oem\msvcr80.dll that gets stuffed up but never have problems when restored.
Cheers...
for large backups (like ghost images) i use SPB backup 2- one main advantage is that it create a standalone self extract EXE file and backup EVERYTHING including SD.
for call logs\contacts\etc. - i use PIMbackup 2.8 - fast free and super reliable.
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gypsygirl13, I tend to find it has "several problems while backing up" but that nothing is lost. It may be that it was designed to work on WM06/6.1 and here I am using it for 6.5. Had the same teething problems with SPB Backup when 6.1 came out. However, backup 2 seems to not die like backup did. Never had trouble where I lost info (unlike SPB Backup).
I find its always the windows\oem\msvcr80.dll that gets stuffed up but never have problems when restored.
Cheers...
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Wow you're right, everything was restored even my fonts (I'm using Setting++). Now I don't have to worry when I need to hard reset my phone. (^_^)
having a lot of bugs after restoring 6.1 backup using spb backup 2.0.
I recommend using sktools - it can restore anything except messages.
SPB & PIM
Im using SPB and PIM back-up for assurance. SPB if im only using same ROM no problem with all the settings that I made previously. PIM if SPB will not be installed for some ROM but later I found out that I could restore my SPB back up even though i havent installed it yet but the problem will be back up your file for some ROM if SPB will not be installed.
mountainmark
I have a lot of bugs with spb pocket plus 4 after restore backup created by spb backup.
Version 2 was very good for wm06 but I don't believe it liked the wm6.1 or 6.5. Error messages displayed but no problems. Backups always work fine.
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mountainmark
I have a lot of bugs with spb pocket plus 4 after restore backup created by spb backup.
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what bugs are you experiencing mate? currently im using SPB in my wm6.1 created by kareem
mountainmark
on today screen appears scroll, and do not want go away. spb + today can`t work with "show on top" options enabled.
other software works sometime strange.
The past Year im using PIM Backup its great to backup all ot my pim data, but after i tried tai_sw wm6.5 evil and downgrade to josh V15 color3g, starbase64 or any of M2D roms. the touchflo cant start.
Theres no problem after flashing but when itried to restore using PIMbackup the thouch flo wont start i dont know why... it never hapend before.
ive tried hard reset soft reset it doesnt work the touchflo always stop functioning afetr i restore my pim. any clues??
if it because wm6.5 i dont hav problem with josh wm 6.5.
well ill try SPB backup2 lets see how it goes.
Currently I'm trialing SPB BackUp and I must say that I really like it a lot! So far I've had no problems backing up, restoring, and re-connecting the phone with Active Sync as I did previously with Sprite BackUp. The best thing about SPB BackUp is that it allows you to restore everything even when you upgrade your custom ROMs...something that I do several times a day testing different ROMs. I highly recommend this program for those of you who flash custom ROMs on your phone and don't like to rely on PIM and go through re-installing each and every software and settings back on your phone. I'm debating whether to wait for my trial to end or just to buy it now!
SPB BackUp website:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/backup/
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Im Packing said:
Currently I'm trialing SPB BackUp and I must say that I really like it a lot! So far I've had no problems backing up, restoring, and re-connecting the phone with Active Sync as I did previously with Sprite BackUp. The best thing about SPB BackUp is that it allows you to restore everything even when you upgrade your custom ROMs...something that I do several times a day testing different ROMs. I highly recommend this program for those of you who flash custom ROMs on your phone and don't like to rely on PIM and go through re-installing each and every software and settings back on your phone. I'm debating whether to wait for my trial to end or just to buy it now!
SPB BackUp website:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pocketpc-software/backup/
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Hi. i also use SPB Backup and love it as it restores all my email a/c's and my tx messages. But i was wondering, u mentioned that with spb backup, u dont have to re-install all your apps/programmes each time u flash? can u please give me a tip on how to do this as i have no idea.i only see options for the usual ieim, texts,emails and there is a device option,but with so may sub catogories!....confusing i have a Htc TD2 with custom UDK Rom and manila sense 2.5.
I am a noob so please be patient with me
Thanks in advance.
It depends on if you do a full back-up. If you do then everything you back-up (including your storage card) is backed up unless you specify in options not to back it up. The only thing I don't back-up are previous SPB Back-ups.
To restore everything including programs that you had just do a full restore. If you choose customized restore then all the programs and settings to restore is in the "System Data". Uncheck PIM Data, Emails, and My Documents, and just leave the System Data checked and click next. From there it will restore all your programs and settings you previously had. BUT ONLY if you previously did a full backup or a custom back-up that included System Data.
I've had ZERO problems since using SPB Back-Up with any custom rom so far. I was using a trial Sprite Back-Up but it wasn't successful in restoring with different custom roms. SPB Back-Up also recently had an update with more finger friendly icons and IMO slightly more user friendly.
Im Packing said:
It depends on if you do a full back-up. If you do then everything you back-up (including your storage card) is backed up unless you specify in options not to back it up. The only thing I don't back-up are previous SPB Back-ups.
To restore everything including programs that you had just do a full restore. If you choose customized restore then all the programs and settings to restore is in the "System Data". Uncheck PIM Data, Emails, and My Documents, and just leave the System Data checked and click next. From there it will restore all your programs and settings you previously had. BUT ONLY if you previously did a full backup or a custom back-up that included System Data.
I've had ZERO problems since using SPB Back-Up with any custom rom so far. I was using a trial Sprite Back-Up but it wasn't successful in restoring with different custom roms. SPB Back-Up also recently had an update with more finger friendly icons and IMO slightly more user friendly.
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Thank You. Just tried it and it worked great. Its just that i was curious on how will it do it without me installing the cab files individually and or making a selection of cabs/programmes to install. Programmes such as Sahsimi work from a pre-difined list we creat ourselves and it installs all cabs one after the other. Thats why i was confused. But now i understand. Thank You again for your help and i totally agree with you. SPB Backup is great and would recommend it to everyone!
Take care and happy new year to all @ XDA!!!
Thanks!
Im Packing - thanks for the info. The fear of having to start over again put me off updating my phone. Could never find out for sure that system files and apps were updated.
Following your advice updating to the latest rom went like a dream
Forgive me but I gave some wrong information. FULL BACKUPS do not include storage card. You must do a Customized Backup and check the Storage Card under the System Files box. That will include everything on your storage card, but you can choose, in the menu options, to skip previous backup files so that you don't take up too much room. Also, High Compression on backups seems to work so far. Have not had one problem using high compression vs. normal.
Im Packing said:
Forgive me but I gave some wrong information. FULL BACKUPS do not include storage card. You must do a Customized Backup and check the Storage Card under the System Files box. That will include everything on your storage card, but you can choose, in the menu options, to skip previous backup files so that you don't take up too much room. Also, High Compression on backups seems to work so far. Have not had one problem using high compression vs. normal.
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what exactly "system" back up do? does it not overwrite roms settings? and/or system data? which i think would cause problems expecially if you restore it to a rom with different version/build?
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thank u so much man for back up solution . i am going to try now .
As far as I can find, there seems to be no simple app that allows you to do a complete backup of an Android phone. I used to use either Sprite or SPB Backup under WM which allowed you to create an executable file which you could run after a hard reset to restore your phone to its position at the date you made the backup.
It looks like that's not possible under Android. The built-in backup doesn't seem to do a lot as I still had to put back my apps and many of my settings.
What I have found are Sprite for Android, My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, although Titanium needs a rooted phone.
Is there nothing similar in Android that essentially creates an image of the phone so that you can do a full restore after a hard reset?
If not, what is the best way to backup as much as possible?
Well, with custom ROMS there can be app2sd (saves the apps on the sd). That also backs up the apps you have.
Otherwise it's also possible (after a hard reset) to login the market again and download all your previous installed apps again.
For a complete backup (e.g. also to save a certain version of a rom, a full NAND backup) you have to make a 'Nandroid' backup.
But! That is only possible with a custom recovery rom as far as I know. And there isn't one yet for the Desire.
On my Hero I've been updating quite some ROMs without the need of a hard reset. Which is already quite an improvement over the WM rom updating With Android you can update ROM without hard resetting, and it usually keeps working just fine.
But then again, I always make a full Nandroid backup before installing the new ROM just to be safe.
Also a former WM user and Sprite Backup did a great job on those devices. Seems like Android works differently with that respect. In fact Sprite Backup seems to get quite a few bad reviews on the Market.