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Can not get gps signal even after i bond

I have a fortuna bluetooth gps and i have rom vrsion 1.72 on my xda2 and i cannot get it to work properly with tomtom. I allso have the latest version in tomtom gps and i have the bluetooth tools by towa can anyone please help.

When you bonded the gps did you choose "serial profile". What settings are you using in tomtom? Which fortuna gps is it, on my xda2 the gpsmart needs no bt tools and neither does the gr230.

it is fotuna clipon. it bonds ok, it asks about serial port but dose not give a port number. in tomtom i select tomtom wirless gps and bluetooth gps.
thanks

Starman:
DO NOT use BT Tools (not needed with rom 1.72)
Bond the BT GPS, say yes to create com port.
In TomTom GPS select
- NMEA xxxx Bluetooth and
- COM5 or (better!) Bluetooth GPS
- tick blue-ish box
Should work right away
Remember you only get fixes with a clear view of the sky!!
I would like to know if:
- You can tick the blue-ish box with Bluetooth GPS (instead of COM5) selected or not
- What the origin of your 1.72 ROM is: iMate, Qtek, T-Mobile beta

the rom was posted by wax hit is the himalayen rom i tryed all the thigs that you said and it is still the same.

could you be more specific?
There is no user 'wax' nor has anyone with a username like that posted a message with RUU172* in it . . .
BTW I suppose its not enough to uninstall BT Tools, to be sure its gone do a hard-reset

I have the Fortuna BTCliponGPS unit with an XDA2 but only with the 1.60.00 WWE ROM from O2.
Do EXACTLY what edsub said:
1. Go to Bluetooth Settings (in Settings) and make sure that Bluetooth Serial Port setup is enabled for both Inbound (COM4) and Outbound (COM5)
2. Delete any ClipOn-BTGPS devices showing on in your Bluetooth device list and reconnect. Don't forget that the Fortuna device uses 0000 (4x zeros) as its passkey and that you must allow it to create a COM port when it asks.
3) I presume you are using TomTom Navigator with this? Make sure that you have downloaded and installed the very latest GPS software AND the TomTom Navigator application update.
4) Stand outside in the pouring rain waiting for the blasted GPS unit to lock onto a satellite.

will this work w/ TT3.01?
Do we have to update to TomTom 3.03 + GPS 3.03, or can the Fortuna Clip & XDA II work with version 3.01 +gps 3.01?

No you dont have to update the drivers etc, but the latest version runs alot faster.
Im running an xda2 tt3 and bt fortuna clipon and bttools, ROM 1.66.00. I have NO problems at all with this configuration.
Regards
The Pilgrim

I use Dconnex DC-230 bluetooth with my XDAII ROM 1.72, and Tomtom 2.
I had to upgrade TOMtom to 2.24 and GPS to 3.03, the in tomtom i chose SIRF BT and Bluetooth GPS. and as edsub said you nedd to check the blueish box, but don't stand in the rain waiting for signal, you will get a message saying no signal found??.
BTW when bonding my GPS I opted for NO serial ports.
anybody knows how to keep the GPS bonded all the time (other than leaving it on and next to the XDA all the time)

Tomtom Routeplanner & GPS BT

Can anyone tell me why TT Routeplanner doesn't "see" my BT GPS?
I also have Destinator3 installed on my PPC and works perfectly with my GPS Receiver. So I assume that it is not a bluetooth connection problem.
Please, anyone?

what kind of GPS receiver do you have ?
does it support serial port profile ?
what drivers have u selected in TT GPS ?
Did you update to the latest version of TT ?

I have a BT48.
Yes, it supports SPP
No drivers were selected in TT GPS, simply because TT does not see a gps connection. I click on GPS Setup (within TT settings), but nothing happens.
TT Routeplanner doesn't have a new version. It has been replaced and it is not supported any longer.
Any suggestions?

Is the gps receiver listed in the bluetooth section of your ppc ? (settings-connections-bluetooth)
Try removing the link, then bond again using outbound Com 5 (spp)
In TT GPS manually select NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth in the upper box and
com 5 in the lower drop down box. Then tick the blue box left.

I solved the problem, which by the way was so silly that I refuse to mention it. :wink:
Thanks anyway pleum

XDA2s, Holux GR-230 & Tomtom Nav 3

Hi All,
I am not having any lock setting up XDA IIs, Holux GR-230 GPS and Tomtom 3.07 navigator. If someone has managed to get these 3 talking, then i will be grateful if the settings could be shared with me.
thanks
gosh28us
O2 XDA2s
ROM Ver: 131.00 WWE
Radio Ver: 1.06.00
ExtROM Ver: 1.31.139WWE[/b]

Have you checked which COM port the GR-230 is using and matched it with the tomtom software?
http://www.holux-uk.com/Products/gr-230/download.shtml gives a download for checking out what COM port is used

No, i haven't. I will do that.
thanks
gosh28us

let me know what you find
For what its worth - My Tomtom GPS receiver uses Bluetooth Serial port on COM6: but I know this can be changed to Bluetooth COM5, serial on COM1 and also COM9

XDA2s + Tomtom3 + Holux 230
I have this exact combination working.
Use COM5 BT
Set the type to SIRF 9600 (38400 proved unreliable)
then tick the box on the left.
If you go back to the 1st tab, you should see it's communicating.
Cheers,
Hal

GPS viewer hasn't been able to identifier the port to be used. I have tried the combination given by Hal and that wasn't successful either. I'm now going through all the possible tomtom GPS cobinations and will update you as soon as my luck shines.
Thanks in advance for all your help.
gosh28us

When you pair the gps with your pda do you get the message that a serial port profile is available for the device?? Mine does this and it sets itself up as com 5. I am not sure if beams affects this, I always switch off beams under settings/conncetions/beams, if a wired gps is used this is essential as the beams takes com 1 and wont allow a wired gps to work if enabled.

No. i don't get that message on the XDA2s although I remeber that on the XDA2.
I have downloaded Holux GPS viewer on my PDA but when i scan, it doesn't find any com port
I have deleted the Holux GPS (GR-230) and paired again, went to the Bluetooth screen which shows HOLUX GR-230: SPP slave and it connects and shows the duration clock.
I am and have been changing the options on the TomTom GPS screen, alwyas tick the big box but when i go to the status screen don't see any firing between the attenna and the PDA icons.
thanks

On the XDA, go into bluetooth settings and make sure that under the services tabe, the "Serial Port" is enabled. Unless this is enabled, you won't have COM5 & COM6 on your XDA
Also, once you pair with the device, try exploring it & seeing what services it can provide

Weasel, I have done what you have said below and yes, COM5 & COM6 are among the list when i check the TomTom GPS screen 2nd box.
I have been using different options from the 1st box, ex. TomTom Wireless GPS, TomTom Navigator GPS etc etc, combining with COM5 & COM6 etc etc from the 2nd box but still the status screen doesn't show any communication between the antenna & the PDA.
With regards to the Holux GR-230, should i do anything different apart from turning it on whiles i'm trying to do the setup?
thanks
gosh28us

tomtom 5 & bluetooth gps

just got myself tomtom 5. unfortunately cant hook up my gps which is Altina GBT708. It is a bluetooth gps which i could use successfully with previous versions of tomtom on com port 6 now it dosent work. any tips. tried using com port 5 patch in other forums still no result. tried installing previous version of gps driver over current still nothing.

TomTom5 is a pain in the butt to configure your GPS. I have the NavMan GPS sleeve for the IPAQ and just sleecting NavMan GPS from the settings screen doesn't work. I had to configure a standard NMEA GPS unit and set the baud rate to 38400 and then it worked. Play about with the settings, one will work eventually!

how do you go about doing that.i have been trying to select various options dosent seem to work

I am having the same problems with a Fortuna Clip-on Bluetooth GPS. Worked fine with previous TT3 and works fine with Memory-Map software.
The only thing I noticed is that you can pick com port but not the baud rate.
Any help on this would be appreciated. :?:

Just select standard wired GPS or standard bluetooch GPS (wired in my case). It then asked for baud rate. I searched the web to find the right baud rate to set for my device.

i chose the standard bluetooth gps. then it asked me to selected the port. so i selected com port 6. after that it just doesnt do anything. for tomtom 4.44 it goes to bluetooth manager automatically and asks to confirm the gps device

After selecting Standard bluetooth the next screen asks what the unit is connected too and after selecting com6 nothing happens?
If I select TomTom bluetooth I get some blue light flashes from the GPS unit and that is it.

Mine is wires, not bluetooth so I can't help I'm afraid.

I have Orange SPVm2000, TT5, Fortuna Clip-on Bluetooth GPS, Motorola HS850 Bluetooth Headset and have them all working together.
I had the same problem as reported hear of not being able to setup GPS on com 6, TT5 would either freeze when selecting com 6 or no communication would start between GPS and PDA.
First my observations:-
Always start to configure GPS with a soft reset this is a must as this is the only way I can guarantee a connection now that I have it working.
The only time I could get the blue light to flicker on my GPS was when I selected TomTom GPS receiver
When I select Com6 I am not given the option to select baud rate?
The sequence of events that made the final connecton:-
Do a soft rest.
I selected TomTom Bluetooth GPS and left the PDA and GPS trying to communicate for 5mins. During this time the blue light on the GPS flashes at different rates.
I then selected "Other Bluetooth GPS" then Com6 and it sprang into life.
This is not a guaranteed solution, but it worked for me. Why?
The problem is clearly with TT5, as I have no problems with this setup with other navigation software.
Remember in TT5 if it fails to connect once it will not connect at all until you do a soft reset of your PDA.
Hope this helps.

Daron at Tekguru seems to have solved this problem:
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6291
"...I've resolved the issue, which stems I think from the BT GPS unit I use (Emtec as supplied with CoPilot Live).
It seems that TTN5 has decided it is not a valid BT unit, which is a major grr.....
But in the end after a good hour of hard resetting the machine to give me a clean platform I've found the following works (assuming BT is on and the GPS already paired):
- Tap on the screen and select Change Preferences (big spanner)
- Tap the black triangle until it says Preferences 4 of 6
- Select Configure
- Select 'Another cabled NMEA GPS' set the GPS Baud Rate at 38400 and select DONE.
The BT wizard will then allow you to select the correct bluetooth port, for my machine it was the top of the two BT ports (COM 8 - if you tap and hold).
You will notice a small orange and black circle at the top right of the screen this will start to spin if you are connected to the GPS if it does not spin then soft reset the PDA and try again.
This did take three tries before it connected for me but it worked beautifully.
TTN5 uses a superb VGA graphics set and it looks damned beautiful! Worth the effort but by God TT could have made it less painful!"

Hi, might be worht giving my post here a look http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=125995#125995
Might be able to help you.... James
:wink:

IT WORKS....
I was a bit sceptical at first but xda-rocks found the solution from us. he might not be the one to find it but atleast brought it to our attention. im sure a lot of people were suffering with this problem and will be pleased that they can use their tt5 at last. i had almost given up hope at one point and move back to tt4.44 as i find tt3.07 utterly rubbish, slow and without features.
i can now start playing round with the gps once again like when i first got my m2000...
THANZ AGAIN

TT5 & Blutooth
Hi Guys
I thought I would post this. I had the same problem with TT5 and it not connecting to my BT gps until I installed 5.10 . The only problem is that I already got my refund from TT due to lack of functionality. I had to install a cracked ver off of the net and Piratebay has a 5.10 hack on there now. I think I will reorder my TT5 as it seems to work great now.
THanks
Coupegbr

wm 5.0 totom & 5.100 & Altina GPS

with tomtom 3.0 it was simple to connect with tomtom 4.0 it was again simple then came tomtom 5.0
had to select wired gps and then chose com port 6 with tomtom 5.0 with wm 2003se. with wm5.0 its all different cant get it to synch with my gps any help will be great. im sure there will be a lot of people strugglign with this

Same problem here but using a Pharos 360 with the Bluetooth docking station. With WM2003SE Tom Tom shows a lot more com ports. It used to have Com5 and Com6 and the bottom of the configuration screen. Now it only has Com1 Wired connection, Com2 and COm9.
When pairing the GPS to an outbound serial port you can not use com9, Com2 or Com1. If you pair the GPS to new port like com6, Tom Tom still does not offer com6 as an option.
So I figured you had to use the GPS control panel item to map another Com port to the actual GPS com port. But still no joy. After creating a new software com port it still does not show up in Tom Tom. If you use one Com2 or Com9 that Tom Tom does have options for, it does not connect.
Anyone got this working??
Shawn

Please check your PM.
Thanks,
Darren

solution found for the above
go to bluetooth and pair the gps with the phone. enter passcode if required then click on new outgoing port and then select com port 6.
open tomtom then select configure gps then select other buetooth gps. you should now see com port 6. select this and everything should work now.

That does not work for me. Once I pair my GPS and assign it a com port, the com port will NOT show up in the Tom Tom GPS configuration screen.
Shawn

tomtom
need to ensure you enable the serial connection when it asks you. for me it worked on com 6 and should be same for you no matter wat bluetooth gps you are using as it says this on tomtom website. instead of using wired gps like in 2003se we need to use bluetooth gps option and it should work. seems to work fine for me. do a breakdown of what you are doing cos we may find something i am doing that you are missing out or something you are doing which is wrong.
by the way i have beams turned off and i have not fiddled with com ports on the gps setting icon in settings menu. the application and hardware port have been set to none. we just need to apply the gps port to com 6 upon creation of partnership

Thanks for the reply
This is what I am doing.
Settings->Connections->BlueTooth
On Mode tab. Turn On Bluethooth
Click Device Tab
Click new partnership
Pharos iGPS-BT shows up. I select and say next
I check the serial Port service and click save
I click on Com Ports tab
I click on new Outgoing Port
I select My GPS and select Com6
I have tried with the "Secure connection" on and off
Click Finish
Now the comm port tab shows
Pharos iGPS-BT (COM6)
New Outgoing Port
New Incoming Port
Click Ok to close the BlueTooth manager
Click X to close the settings window
Run Tom Tom
Click on the GPS Bars to get to the status summary
Click on the bars again to get to GPS Status
Click COnfigure
Select Other Bluetooth GPS
Press Continue on next screen
Now all the shows up is
BT UART
COM2:
Serial Cable on COM1:
COM9:
Ir on COM3:
So I can not select Com6 as it is not in the list.

i have the problem....
can,t anyone welp. pls

think i have a solution
slammers et al,
switch off 'Receive all incoming beams' in Settings, Connections, Beam.
in Settings, Connections, Bluetooth, Services select Serial Port - in mine 3 are ticked:
Enable service
Authentication(Passkey) required
Encryption required.
click Advanced, Inbound COM Port is 5, Outbound COM Port is 6.
switch on your bluetooth GPS receiver.
open Bluetooth Manager and double tap your GPS receiver, if it's not in Bluetooth Manager then pair the device and create a serial connection by clicking New, Explore a Bluetooth device, select your device to make a serial connection shortcut.
start TomTom, go to 'Change preferences', Show GPS status, Configure, select 'Other Bluetooth GPS' and select Serial port 6....click done....in the GPS Status window you may see that it is connected....if not do the next step.
click done, exit application.
soft reset device.
switch your bluetooth gps receiver off then on.
start TomTom, leave it for 30 seconds....it should connect to your GPS device...if you have the older TomTom GPS receiver you'll be able to tell that it's made a connection by the constant blue light being displayed on the gps receiver.
if you have no luck with selecting 'Other Bluetooth GPS' try selecting 'Other Cable NMEA GPS', choose GPS baud rate 4800 and then 'Bluetooth Serial Port 6' in the TomTom configuration screen.
i know it's a bluetooth device but this has been a problem prior to version 5.10 of the tomtom software and people have had success using this option and connecting.
i've had success with a few different configurations and have helped a few people get theirs working.....also there is a claire on this board who i went through a painstakingly long back an forth post with and i'm still not sure if she got it working....but i've just learned how to get mine working where it turns on the bluetooth automatically and switches it off also...and prior to this post i had it connected using the 'Other Cable NMEA GPS' instead of Other Bluetooth GPS....so good thing i turned it on and messed with my config while trying to explain how to modify yours.
good luck.

i dont have this opction on windows mobile 5 decoy 7....

you dont have that option?

no... mobile 5 have the BT like qtek s100.. very simple.... :shock:
but finely i have put on work the bt-338 on mY BA with tom tom 5
i do this:
seting-connections-bt then i partnership with gps
next
setings-connections-bt-com ports and make outgoing port with gps (com6)
setings.connections.bt.com ports and make incoming por (com7)
next
go to gps frome wn5 and put com7 in "software" live the menu of hardware as "none" and 4800 and ond the 3 windom put on
then opem de tom tom and open de pgs configuracion and use "other bt gps" and use the port com6...
work on me :lol: :lol:
good luck....

go to gps frome wn5 and put com7 in "software" live the menu of hardware as "none" and 4800 and ond the 3 windom put on
then opem de tom tom and open de pgs configuracion and use "other bt gps" and use the port com6...
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Are you sure you mean softport 7 and set 6 in tomtom?

help
I am having this problem but the TyTn only lets me use Com 0 so I cant set it to com6.
WHen I am in TomTom it says there is no gps and when trying to configure it doesnt give me the right options.
help please