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Tomtom Routeplanner & GPS BT

Can anyone tell me why TT Routeplanner doesn't "see" my BT GPS?
I also have Destinator3 installed on my PPC and works perfectly with my GPS Receiver. So I assume that it is not a bluetooth connection problem.
Please, anyone?

what kind of GPS receiver do you have ?
does it support serial port profile ?
what drivers have u selected in TT GPS ?
Did you update to the latest version of TT ?

I have a BT48.
Yes, it supports SPP
No drivers were selected in TT GPS, simply because TT does not see a gps connection. I click on GPS Setup (within TT settings), but nothing happens.
TT Routeplanner doesn't have a new version. It has been replaced and it is not supported any longer.
Any suggestions?

Is the gps receiver listed in the bluetooth section of your ppc ? (settings-connections-bluetooth)
Try removing the link, then bond again using outbound Com 5 (spp)
In TT GPS manually select NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth in the upper box and
com 5 in the lower drop down box. Then tick the blue box left.

I solved the problem, which by the way was so silly that I refuse to mention it. :wink:
Thanks anyway pleum

XDA2s, Holux GR-230 & Tomtom Nav 3

Hi All,
I am not having any lock setting up XDA IIs, Holux GR-230 GPS and Tomtom 3.07 navigator. If someone has managed to get these 3 talking, then i will be grateful if the settings could be shared with me.
thanks
gosh28us
O2 XDA2s
ROM Ver: 131.00 WWE
Radio Ver: 1.06.00
ExtROM Ver: 1.31.139WWE[/b]

Have you checked which COM port the GR-230 is using and matched it with the tomtom software?
http://www.holux-uk.com/Products/gr-230/download.shtml gives a download for checking out what COM port is used

No, i haven't. I will do that.
thanks
gosh28us

let me know what you find
For what its worth - My Tomtom GPS receiver uses Bluetooth Serial port on COM6: but I know this can be changed to Bluetooth COM5, serial on COM1 and also COM9

XDA2s + Tomtom3 + Holux 230
I have this exact combination working.
Use COM5 BT
Set the type to SIRF 9600 (38400 proved unreliable)
then tick the box on the left.
If you go back to the 1st tab, you should see it's communicating.
Cheers,
Hal

GPS viewer hasn't been able to identifier the port to be used. I have tried the combination given by Hal and that wasn't successful either. I'm now going through all the possible tomtom GPS cobinations and will update you as soon as my luck shines.
Thanks in advance for all your help.
gosh28us

When you pair the gps with your pda do you get the message that a serial port profile is available for the device?? Mine does this and it sets itself up as com 5. I am not sure if beams affects this, I always switch off beams under settings/conncetions/beams, if a wired gps is used this is essential as the beams takes com 1 and wont allow a wired gps to work if enabled.

No. i don't get that message on the XDA2s although I remeber that on the XDA2.
I have downloaded Holux GPS viewer on my PDA but when i scan, it doesn't find any com port
I have deleted the Holux GPS (GR-230) and paired again, went to the Bluetooth screen which shows HOLUX GR-230: SPP slave and it connects and shows the duration clock.
I am and have been changing the options on the TomTom GPS screen, alwyas tick the big box but when i go to the status screen don't see any firing between the attenna and the PDA icons.
thanks

On the XDA, go into bluetooth settings and make sure that under the services tabe, the "Serial Port" is enabled. Unless this is enabled, you won't have COM5 & COM6 on your XDA
Also, once you pair with the device, try exploring it & seeing what services it can provide

Weasel, I have done what you have said below and yes, COM5 & COM6 are among the list when i check the TomTom GPS screen 2nd box.
I have been using different options from the 1st box, ex. TomTom Wireless GPS, TomTom Navigator GPS etc etc, combining with COM5 & COM6 etc etc from the 2nd box but still the status screen doesn't show any communication between the antenna & the PDA.
With regards to the Holux GR-230, should i do anything different apart from turning it on whiles i'm trying to do the setup?
thanks
gosh28us

GPS Disabled with TomTom - Please Help!

Have had my Orange SPV M2000 for the past month & neither TomTom support or Orange have been able to resolve:
TomTom Navigator 3 shows "GPS Disabled" at the Settings> System> GPS> gps> screen the device shows "TomTom Wireless GPS" in the top box & "Bluetooth GPS" in the box below. The large 'button' to their left is grey/blue, but it does not respond to selection.
Does anyone USE TomTom + TomTom Wireless GPS on their Blue Angel?
Having used TomTom on my previous XDA2 & SPV M1000 have tried EVERYTHING to get it working...resets, re-loaded TomTom, Bluetooth sees the TomTom GPS & works with my BT headset
Peter

I've had this problem with XDA2 and with a rom prior to SE.
Never knew why I couldn't enable TomTom Wireless GPS , but you might wanna try enabling a standard NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth driver. It should/might work also.
Ever since i installed 2003SE I can enable TomTom Wireless GPS

M4io said:
I've had this problem with XDA2 and with a rom prior to SE.
but you might wanna try enabling a standard NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth driver. It should/might work also.
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ROM version: 1.31.00 WWE date:12/13/04
How/where can I get 'NMEA 0183v2 Bluetooth driver'
Thanks
Peter

It works fine for me with a Tomtom Bluetooth and Tomtom 3 on my XDAiis
Lots of questions, hopefully one will point you in the right direction -
1. Have you ued the updated version of tomtom and the tomtom GPS driver, the Blueangel is a WM2003SE device and will not work without the patch. v3.07 from tomtom download
Mine cam with 2 CD's, I installed Tomtom from the update CD with v307 and the maps/voices etc from the normal CD.
2. Does the GPS pair OK with yuor PDA, can you see it in the "Bluetooth Manager" as a device, can you conect to it from here
3. Have you tried running the standalone "GPS" application installed with TomTom rather than the full app, go to the HW tab at the bottom of this and ensure Bluetooth device selected and hit the tick button
4. Does the GPS unit work with any other applications like Navio from tiny stocks - they have a demo you can try
5. What colour and flash rates are the LEDS are on the GPS
If you cant figure it out post answers to the above Q's and I'll try and help
Cheers Wayne

Check the settings in the bluetooth manager to see which outgoing bt com port is in use. Mine was doing this until I checked this to see it was using com6. I then set the GPS second drop down box to com6 and all was well.
Also make sure you are using the latest Nav and GPS version from tomtom.com (v 3.07 I think).
JD

wth said:
Lots of questions, hopefully one will point you in the right direction -
1. . v3.07 from tomtom download - YES
2. Does the GPS pair OK with yuor PDA, YES paired but fails: Unable to establish a connection...
3. Have you tried running the standalone "GPS" application installed with TomTom - simply fails to recognise GPS
4. Does the GPS unit work with any other applications - GPS works fine with my old SPV M1000 (tried again now)
5. What colour and flash rates are the LEDS are on the GPS - Blue twice a second, Green every second
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Thanks for your help
Peter

jdee246 said:
Mine was doing this until I checked this to see it was using com6. I then set the GPS second drop down box to com6 and all was well. - Inbound Com5 Outbound Com6, this was the default
Also make sure you are using the latest Nav and GPS version from tomtom.com (v 3.07 I think). - yes
JD
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Thanks
Peter

As it just worked for me I'm stuck. Only other thoughts are:
Do you have any other serial devices or use GPSGate in use or are you using Bluetooth Activesync?
Try deleteing the device in the Bluetooth managher and re pair, I dont have authentication selected in the properties in the Bluetooth settings.
When I said try the GPS with a different application I meant on the Blueangel, Navio is another GPS program
Good luck

XDA Exec and Holox BT-321 GPS Receiver

hi there
new to this forum which looks very interesting. Hence asking answer for a problem.
i have bought a Holox BT-321 gps receiver which is blue tooth enabled and i am trying my xda exec to recognise it. aftre turning both devices on xda can see the receiver but puts a yellow question mark before its name.
when turn the gps software on ((Medion Navigator) it does not recognise presence of the gps receiver.
i have great hopes that out there some one does know the answer to this.
to me it appears a software conflict as xda can not install this receiver.
i have tried O2 but they politely refused and asked me to contact gps receiver makers who in turn say the receiver is working fine!!
i was about to pay for a software pathway for sale at ebay but it had been banned by the ebay.
so help please
mohammad asif

Assuming that you did set a port for it (not sure whether it's incoming or outgoing) on the Exec for the GPS unit, you'll probably have to set the port to see the GPS unit on the software also.
That's how I got my GPS unit to work with my software. Please note that the software and the GPS unit that I'm using are not the same as yours. So results might vary.

I too am having exactly the same issues with the Holox 321 and o2 Exec. If anyone has had success pairing a using these two devices and can post a step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.

MDA Pro and BT321
I have got exactly the same problem. It seem that the bluetooth works but the GPS receiver is not recognised. I was thinking of it could be missing drivers or something along those lines

I'm seeing a trend...

hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps

Thanks BBD, that may help. Trouble is though, I can't even get it to pair correctly. The Exec seems to go through the motions, but the blue light that's meant to flash whenpairing is successful just stays solid.
I also get the question mark appear next to the device in the list of BT devices. What OS is your friend using? WM5 or PPC2003?

hi m8,
he is using WM2003SE, he two has the question mark beside his device I think that just means it does not have a Windows Certificate nothing more, just cheked my TOMTOM device has the question mark too and that works fine
Matt

hi,
just double checked and this is how it worked, pair the GPS receiver up, then go into TomTom and use the NMEA devices with baud rate of 38400 then select bluetooth on com6 and bingo bango your off
cheers
Matt

I think my problem occurs before TT5 is even invloved. From what I've seen WM2005 is very different from PPC2003 as far as BT goes.
I search for a new device and the BT-321 is seen as normal. I select it then enter the sec. key; ok so far. then I'm ask what services I want to use (only "serial port" is available). I select this, then finish. At this point I expect the blue BT light to start flashing telling me I have a successful pairing, but it stays solid. I have tried creating a new outgoing port, but no change.
Until I can get a successful pairing my BT port doesn't appear in the list in TT5, so I can't select it.
I wish I could find someone who has successfully paired these two devices...

Bump.

I can pair my mini s to the bluetooth reciever, but not tt5
i have paired my bluetooth reciever with my xda mini s but when i go to select it in tt5 none of the comports correspond with any i can pair the reciever with. I have installed bttools but this hasnt helped either. someone suggested i needed to build a com port but i dont know where to start, and they also said its because its an xda that theres comport problems, i donubt im the first one with this issue. i pray someone can help me out, would be much appriciated.
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Same problem on my Wizard with the Gpslim 236. However, my fiend brought over his rikaline last night and it worked very quickly. Go figure. I think I'll be exchanging today.

I got the BT321 working with the Universal no problem.
It paired okay, gave me the COM Port option which I took, showed the icon with ? on it.
Going to the COM Ports tab, I created an outgoing port (COM0).
In TT5.21 (I think you need the latest version of TT5) I selected COM0 and after a while it found it no problem..
F.

paring xda exec + gps holux 236
i did pare the 2 after updating tomtom to 5.21 free from tomtom web site then u get com 8 were u can set the outgoing port from the xda ,voila

I have XDA EXEC and have successfully installed the Holux BT-321 Bluetooth GPS. It runs perfectly with a number of GPS applications - so I know the port/Bluetooth configuration is ok. I had to choose an unused com port (0 or 4 work fine). (Ports 1,2,3,6,7,and 9 seem to be already used by the XDA EXEC - so could not be seleted).
BUT (going back to the first post) Medion Navigator (4.2) does NOT recognise the new GPS port. Instead it has options to select ports com1,2,3,6,7,9 but not the "new" port where the GPS is actually configured!
Does anyone have any ideas about this?

After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!

BT/GPS Problems
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John

bigbird49 said:
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
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Hi,
I`m a new member.After installing your litle tool i can`t start this application and also can`t find it under programs or anywhere else?
I`m using a T-Mobile MDA Compact II with WM5 latest ROM, a Holux BT321 and TomTom6. `have expierences with BT and XDA`s using TT5 for a long time.
After upgrading to new devices and new sw i have the following problems:
I can connect the BT321 as a BT Mouse and get a good signal.Using TomTom6 the navigation works with a delay of round about 100 meter. I`m looking for a resolution to connect the BT321 via the NMEA Interface.
regards
AK
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MDAc II
WM5
BT321
TT6

Britishbulldog said:
hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps
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I have tried your advice and it works a treat, thanks to you and everybody else who contribute to this forum

com ports and Bluetooth GPS settings

can some one here please help me this is driving me mad for days now i have been looking thro the forums at some of the posts how to set up tomtom 5 and how to setup the gps bluetooth receiver i have followed all instructions how to but iam not getting any where tomtom is installed Ok the gps control panel is installed but i cant seem to get any blue tooth com ports to show up in tomtom apart from
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
if i rember when i had it installed on my xda2i when i went to tomtom and
bluetooth other then com ports i could pick from tow bluetooth coms 5 & 6
this really is getting to me now i do believe it possible to do it there guys selling the info on ebay with pictures of it running on the XDA exec but i just cant seem to do it
please i would be so greatfull for any help i only got the phone last week i like it

TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd

Re: TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
sidd said:
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd
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Hi Sidd,
I have tried that. The problem is that the phone won't allow me to connect to any other port than 8, 4 and 0 and in the Tom Tom menu there is no option of chosing those ports.
Thanks for advice anyway.
Rob

Hi Rob,
Make sure ur Beam is OFF
Start->Settings->Connection->Beam
MUST be UN-TICKED.
(By the way I am in London, where r u?)

One more idea :idea:
1. Pair ur GPS
2. Once pairing is done, switch OFF ur phone's bluetooth (bcs ur phone is engaging the com ports), do not switch OFF ur GPS.
3. Now soft reset ur phone, make sure the Bluetooth is still ON
4. Start TomTom, see if there are more ports now. Try 5 or 6
GoodLuck
Sidd

Hi Sidd,
Thanks for another piece of advice but unfortunately that did not help either My Beam is OFF and I've tried the way with soft reset but that did not work either. I am getting desperate here
My device is XDA Exec and I am using (or at least trying to use) a BT GPS receiver with it. After pairing devices everything seems to be all right except the fact that I am not able to assign any other ports than 0, 4 and 8 to be used with GPS receiver. As I mentioned earlier there is no option of choosing any of these ports in TomTom5 software with the only options as follows:
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
Maybe you know any ComPort Manager software I could use to assign the Bluetooth connection to a specific port?
As far as my location is concerned I am in Hayes - that's Zone5 near Heathrow airport.
Cheers,
Rob

Which TomTom u using, is it the legal version or ****. Do u wanna meet, so we can try my version?
I am in Pinner, do u drive?
Sidd

Hi all,
I have exactaly the same message and problem.
Natan69
Please if you found a solution help me. i installed my tom tom today so I expect that you may solved your problem by now.
please help me you have been in this situation and you know what i am through.
Thanks

Hi all,
I had exactly the same problem than you guys...
But first of all I couldn't even install tomtom5.
The version 5.0 crashed in every attempt to install and version 5.21, simply crashed when choosing the map.
Well, I'll try to put every step I did to get it working.
First of all, had the BT GPS paired with K-JAM and set new outgoing port COM6 to it. (in my case I only had COM6 or COM7).
1 - With the full copy of 5.0 version on HDD, replaced setup.exe with the one from the 5.21 update (this allowed the setup for 5.0 to run, and is the one that has the gps.cab file);
2 - Updated with version 5.21;
3 - Copied the map to \Storage Card\
4 - In Windows created the file CurrentMap.dat using Notepad containing: & \Storage Card\XXXX-Map\ (where XXXX is the map name. the final \ is mandatory);
5 - Copied the voiceXX.cab to device and run it;
At this point I was having the same problem (both COM6 nor COM7 appears in tomtom)
6 - Downloaded the GPSInfo_WM5.zip attached here and installed it;
7 - Executed this program, configured it to COM6 (port I had configured BT GPS to work with) selected the correct baud rate (very important, it's on the user's manual of the BT GPS) and click Start GPS to check it's response to the program;
8 - Click Close GPS so that the COM port was not in use;
9 - Started tomtom, edit the settings and chose Other Bluetooth GPS.
Now the ports COM6 and COM7 was there!!!!
10 - Chose COM6 and in 10 seconds tomtom was trying to aquire satelites.
I hope this helps you all. I spent weeks trying to make tomtom work and I got it working yesterday.
BTW, excellent forum. If it wasn't this forum (and another one only in portuguese I was still mad with this thing.
Good luck in your adventures.
Cheers,
Nuno.

I installed the gpsinf but it did not solve anything
Thanx for the help

Pairing a GPS with XDA Exec to get TomTom working
After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!