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Can not get gps signal even after i bond

I have a fortuna bluetooth gps and i have rom vrsion 1.72 on my xda2 and i cannot get it to work properly with tomtom. I allso have the latest version in tomtom gps and i have the bluetooth tools by towa can anyone please help.

When you bonded the gps did you choose "serial profile". What settings are you using in tomtom? Which fortuna gps is it, on my xda2 the gpsmart needs no bt tools and neither does the gr230.

it is fotuna clipon. it bonds ok, it asks about serial port but dose not give a port number. in tomtom i select tomtom wirless gps and bluetooth gps.
thanks

Starman:
DO NOT use BT Tools (not needed with rom 1.72)
Bond the BT GPS, say yes to create com port.
In TomTom GPS select
- NMEA xxxx Bluetooth and
- COM5 or (better!) Bluetooth GPS
- tick blue-ish box
Should work right away
Remember you only get fixes with a clear view of the sky!!
I would like to know if:
- You can tick the blue-ish box with Bluetooth GPS (instead of COM5) selected or not
- What the origin of your 1.72 ROM is: iMate, Qtek, T-Mobile beta

the rom was posted by wax hit is the himalayen rom i tryed all the thigs that you said and it is still the same.

could you be more specific?
There is no user 'wax' nor has anyone with a username like that posted a message with RUU172* in it . . .
BTW I suppose its not enough to uninstall BT Tools, to be sure its gone do a hard-reset

I have the Fortuna BTCliponGPS unit with an XDA2 but only with the 1.60.00 WWE ROM from O2.
Do EXACTLY what edsub said:
1. Go to Bluetooth Settings (in Settings) and make sure that Bluetooth Serial Port setup is enabled for both Inbound (COM4) and Outbound (COM5)
2. Delete any ClipOn-BTGPS devices showing on in your Bluetooth device list and reconnect. Don't forget that the Fortuna device uses 0000 (4x zeros) as its passkey and that you must allow it to create a COM port when it asks.
3) I presume you are using TomTom Navigator with this? Make sure that you have downloaded and installed the very latest GPS software AND the TomTom Navigator application update.
4) Stand outside in the pouring rain waiting for the blasted GPS unit to lock onto a satellite.

will this work w/ TT3.01?
Do we have to update to TomTom 3.03 + GPS 3.03, or can the Fortuna Clip & XDA II work with version 3.01 +gps 3.01?

No you dont have to update the drivers etc, but the latest version runs alot faster.
Im running an xda2 tt3 and bt fortuna clipon and bttools, ROM 1.66.00. I have NO problems at all with this configuration.
Regards
The Pilgrim

I use Dconnex DC-230 bluetooth with my XDAII ROM 1.72, and Tomtom 2.
I had to upgrade TOMtom to 2.24 and GPS to 3.03, the in tomtom i chose SIRF BT and Bluetooth GPS. and as edsub said you nedd to check the blueish box, but don't stand in the rain waiting for signal, you will get a message saying no signal found??.
BTW when bonding my GPS I opted for NO serial ports.
anybody knows how to keep the GPS bonded all the time (other than leaving it on and next to the XDA all the time)

XDA Exec and Holox BT-321 GPS Receiver

hi there
new to this forum which looks very interesting. Hence asking answer for a problem.
i have bought a Holox BT-321 gps receiver which is blue tooth enabled and i am trying my xda exec to recognise it. aftre turning both devices on xda can see the receiver but puts a yellow question mark before its name.
when turn the gps software on ((Medion Navigator) it does not recognise presence of the gps receiver.
i have great hopes that out there some one does know the answer to this.
to me it appears a software conflict as xda can not install this receiver.
i have tried O2 but they politely refused and asked me to contact gps receiver makers who in turn say the receiver is working fine!!
i was about to pay for a software pathway for sale at ebay but it had been banned by the ebay.
so help please
mohammad asif

Assuming that you did set a port for it (not sure whether it's incoming or outgoing) on the Exec for the GPS unit, you'll probably have to set the port to see the GPS unit on the software also.
That's how I got my GPS unit to work with my software. Please note that the software and the GPS unit that I'm using are not the same as yours. So results might vary.

I too am having exactly the same issues with the Holox 321 and o2 Exec. If anyone has had success pairing a using these two devices and can post a step-by-step walkthrough on how to do it I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.

MDA Pro and BT321
I have got exactly the same problem. It seem that the bluetooth works but the GPS receiver is not recognised. I was thinking of it could be missing drivers or something along those lines

I'm seeing a trend...

hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps

Thanks BBD, that may help. Trouble is though, I can't even get it to pair correctly. The Exec seems to go through the motions, but the blue light that's meant to flash whenpairing is successful just stays solid.
I also get the question mark appear next to the device in the list of BT devices. What OS is your friend using? WM5 or PPC2003?

hi m8,
he is using WM2003SE, he two has the question mark beside his device I think that just means it does not have a Windows Certificate nothing more, just cheked my TOMTOM device has the question mark too and that works fine
Matt

hi,
just double checked and this is how it worked, pair the GPS receiver up, then go into TomTom and use the NMEA devices with baud rate of 38400 then select bluetooth on com6 and bingo bango your off
cheers
Matt

I think my problem occurs before TT5 is even invloved. From what I've seen WM2005 is very different from PPC2003 as far as BT goes.
I search for a new device and the BT-321 is seen as normal. I select it then enter the sec. key; ok so far. then I'm ask what services I want to use (only "serial port" is available). I select this, then finish. At this point I expect the blue BT light to start flashing telling me I have a successful pairing, but it stays solid. I have tried creating a new outgoing port, but no change.
Until I can get a successful pairing my BT port doesn't appear in the list in TT5, so I can't select it.
I wish I could find someone who has successfully paired these two devices...

Bump.

I can pair my mini s to the bluetooth reciever, but not tt5
i have paired my bluetooth reciever with my xda mini s but when i go to select it in tt5 none of the comports correspond with any i can pair the reciever with. I have installed bttools but this hasnt helped either. someone suggested i needed to build a com port but i dont know where to start, and they also said its because its an xda that theres comport problems, i donubt im the first one with this issue. i pray someone can help me out, would be much appriciated.
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Same problem on my Wizard with the Gpslim 236. However, my fiend brought over his rikaline last night and it worked very quickly. Go figure. I think I'll be exchanging today.

I got the BT321 working with the Universal no problem.
It paired okay, gave me the COM Port option which I took, showed the icon with ? on it.
Going to the COM Ports tab, I created an outgoing port (COM0).
In TT5.21 (I think you need the latest version of TT5) I selected COM0 and after a while it found it no problem..
F.

paring xda exec + gps holux 236
i did pare the 2 after updating tomtom to 5.21 free from tomtom web site then u get com 8 were u can set the outgoing port from the xda ,voila

I have XDA EXEC and have successfully installed the Holux BT-321 Bluetooth GPS. It runs perfectly with a number of GPS applications - so I know the port/Bluetooth configuration is ok. I had to choose an unused com port (0 or 4 work fine). (Ports 1,2,3,6,7,and 9 seem to be already used by the XDA EXEC - so could not be seleted).
BUT (going back to the first post) Medion Navigator (4.2) does NOT recognise the new GPS port. Instead it has options to select ports com1,2,3,6,7,9 but not the "new" port where the GPS is actually configured!
Does anyone have any ideas about this?

After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!

BT/GPS Problems
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John

bigbird49 said:
Hi,
I have a program that can sort out the com port problems between the bluetooth and gps software.
I have included the program as an attachment, just unzip it into your PC, make sure you reboot your PDA, sync your PDA to the PC and run setup.
Problems solved.
Cheers,
John
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Hi,
I`m a new member.After installing your litle tool i can`t start this application and also can`t find it under programs or anywhere else?
I`m using a T-Mobile MDA Compact II with WM5 latest ROM, a Holux BT321 and TomTom6. `have expierences with BT and XDA`s using TT5 for a long time.
After upgrading to new devices and new sw i have the following problems:
I can connect the BT321 as a BT Mouse and get a good signal.Using TomTom6 the navigation works with a delay of round about 100 meter. I`m looking for a resolution to connect the BT321 via the NMEA Interface.
regards
AK
____________________________
MDAc II
WM5
BT321
TT6

Britishbulldog said:
hi all,
My m8 has one of them on an XDA2i and the only way we could get it working with TT5 was to set it up as other NMEA GPS on com 6, that did the trick
hope that helps
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I have tried your advice and it works a treat, thanks to you and everybody else who contribute to this forum

com ports and Bluetooth GPS settings

can some one here please help me this is driving me mad for days now i have been looking thro the forums at some of the posts how to set up tomtom 5 and how to setup the gps bluetooth receiver i have followed all instructions how to but iam not getting any where tomtom is installed Ok the gps control panel is installed but i cant seem to get any blue tooth com ports to show up in tomtom apart from
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
if i rember when i had it installed on my xda2i when i went to tomtom and
bluetooth other then com ports i could pick from tow bluetooth coms 5 & 6
this really is getting to me now i do believe it possible to do it there guys selling the info on ebay with pictures of it running on the XDA exec but i just cant seem to do it
please i would be so greatfull for any help i only got the phone last week i like it

TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd

Re: TomTom & Bluetooth GPS
sidd said:
Hi there,
I am just guessing but give it a try, as i am using a cradle based GPS device bcs i wanna use the bluetooth headset as well during drive.
1. Try to first pair your Bluetooth GPS device with ur phone.
2. Once pairing is done, start TomTom
3. Goto ""ChangePreference->ShowGPS Status->Configure->Other Bluetooth GPS.
(Com1 is for the wired NMEA GPS device)
Your phone must within the connection of ur Bluetooth GPS device, now try BLUETOOTH SERIAL PORT Com5.
Try if its help
Sidd
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Hi Sidd,
I have tried that. The problem is that the phone won't allow me to connect to any other port than 8, 4 and 0 and in the Tom Tom menu there is no option of chosing those ports.
Thanks for advice anyway.
Rob

Hi Rob,
Make sure ur Beam is OFF
Start->Settings->Connection->Beam
MUST be UN-TICKED.
(By the way I am in London, where r u?)

One more idea :idea:
1. Pair ur GPS
2. Once pairing is done, switch OFF ur phone's bluetooth (bcs ur phone is engaging the com ports), do not switch OFF ur GPS.
3. Now soft reset ur phone, make sure the Bluetooth is still ON
4. Start TomTom, see if there are more ports now. Try 5 or 6
GoodLuck
Sidd

Hi Sidd,
Thanks for another piece of advice but unfortunately that did not help either My Beam is OFF and I've tried the way with soft reset but that did not work either. I am getting desperate here
My device is XDA Exec and I am using (or at least trying to use) a BT GPS receiver with it. After pairing devices everything seems to be all right except the fact that I am not able to assign any other ports than 0, 4 and 8 to be used with GPS receiver. As I mentioned earlier there is no option of choosing any of these ports in TomTom5 software with the only options as follows:
qct data interface
RIL on com6
com7
serial cable on com1
Ir on com3
Maybe you know any ComPort Manager software I could use to assign the Bluetooth connection to a specific port?
As far as my location is concerned I am in Hayes - that's Zone5 near Heathrow airport.
Cheers,
Rob

Which TomTom u using, is it the legal version or ****. Do u wanna meet, so we can try my version?
I am in Pinner, do u drive?
Sidd

Hi all,
I have exactaly the same message and problem.
Natan69
Please if you found a solution help me. i installed my tom tom today so I expect that you may solved your problem by now.
please help me you have been in this situation and you know what i am through.
Thanks

Hi all,
I had exactly the same problem than you guys...
But first of all I couldn't even install tomtom5.
The version 5.0 crashed in every attempt to install and version 5.21, simply crashed when choosing the map.
Well, I'll try to put every step I did to get it working.
First of all, had the BT GPS paired with K-JAM and set new outgoing port COM6 to it. (in my case I only had COM6 or COM7).
1 - With the full copy of 5.0 version on HDD, replaced setup.exe with the one from the 5.21 update (this allowed the setup for 5.0 to run, and is the one that has the gps.cab file);
2 - Updated with version 5.21;
3 - Copied the map to \Storage Card\
4 - In Windows created the file CurrentMap.dat using Notepad containing: & \Storage Card\XXXX-Map\ (where XXXX is the map name. the final \ is mandatory);
5 - Copied the voiceXX.cab to device and run it;
At this point I was having the same problem (both COM6 nor COM7 appears in tomtom)
6 - Downloaded the GPSInfo_WM5.zip attached here and installed it;
7 - Executed this program, configured it to COM6 (port I had configured BT GPS to work with) selected the correct baud rate (very important, it's on the user's manual of the BT GPS) and click Start GPS to check it's response to the program;
8 - Click Close GPS so that the COM port was not in use;
9 - Started tomtom, edit the settings and chose Other Bluetooth GPS.
Now the ports COM6 and COM7 was there!!!!
10 - Chose COM6 and in 10 seconds tomtom was trying to aquire satelites.
I hope this helps you all. I spent weeks trying to make tomtom work and I got it working yesterday.
BTW, excellent forum. If it wasn't this forum (and another one only in portuguese I was still mad with this thing.
Good luck in your adventures.
Cheers,
Nuno.

I installed the gpsinf but it did not solve anything
Thanx for the help

Pairing a GPS with XDA Exec to get TomTom working
After several hours trawling forums and trying lots of things here's what worked for me on an XDA Exec running WM5. In fact I was shocked when it worked! In return for this can someone please think up the next thing after Toothache! The WM5 bluetooth connection thing could also do with a re-write - as could the WM5/XDA Exec instructions/FAQs/help, etc... on BT:
If your aim is to get TomTom working AND you're using a non-TomTom BT GPS, try this (the TomTom GPS seems to install itself without much problem):
1. Pair the GPS with your device BEFORE installing TomTom, because the GPS port needs to be already setup on your device for TomTom to recognise when installed.
2. Then install TomTom
3. Launch the BT connection thing in WM5. Make sure the BT is discoverable (first tab). Select 'Security' tab and ensure 'Authentication (Passkey) required is checked.
4. Go to 'Devices' tab and select 'new partnership...' The pairing thing should find your GPS and will then ask for the passkey - select next WITHOUT entering anything even if there's a passkey. If you enter the passkey now you will not get step 5 which is a crucial milestone.
5. The device should now ask if you want to add the GPS to your list, select yes
6. The name of the GPS is shown. Ensure 'serial' port is checked and hit next
7. You will be asked for the passkey again - enter it this time
8. At this point the GPS may look like it's not paired. The lights may flash as if unpaired. You'll also get a question mark icon next to the GPS in your list. Not to worry.
9. Select 'com ports' tab and select 'new outgoing port'. You should see your GPS listed. Select it and hit next. From the list of ports select COM8. Make sure the 'Secure connection' is UNCHECKED - otherwise you'll be pairing everytime you start TomTom! Select Finish. You should see your GPS (COM8) listed in 'COM ports' tab.
10. Turn off 'device is discoverable' (first tab).
11. Now install TomTom. Having installed the GPS as above, TomTom will now know about COM8 i.e. where your GPS is to be found. If you hadn't done that first there would be no COM8 and no GPS connected to it as far as TomTom is concerned.
12. Turn on the GPS
13. Launch TomTom and go to 'preferences/ GPS Settings'. Select 'configure'. Select 'Other bluetooth GPS'
14. You should get a list of ports and with any luck you should see 'COM8' - select it and hit 'done'.
15. I think at this point the GPS page in TomTom came alive, or maybe I had to restart TomTom - can't remember. And it works thus far!
Toothache - what a palaver!

MDA compact bluetooth sat nav problems... HELP

Hi I have a mda compctII, I also have tomtom navigator 5. I am having problems setting up me I-blue gps reciever. I can get everything running and the test program supplied with the gpr reciever connects to the device and shows gps location. But... when I go to run tomtom I cannot get it to recognise the device. It is set up on bluetooth serial port 6 but tomtom does not have this selection availible... and Ideas?

I have no experience pairing a 3rd part BT GPS receiver since I use the original TomTom. I think what you need is to first install BT_COM_PORT.CAB (attached) so that you could select on which COM port to use.
Try upgrading TT to the latest version (5.21) too.
Good luck.

one step closer... in blutooth selection I am given the option for all the com ports... but it will only allow me to select com 6. This option is not shown in tomtom just com:0,2,3 and 9.

Sorry mate, I think I couldn't be of any further help since I have no experience with the I-Blue. If my memory serves me right, I think I saw some posts about the I-Blue in Howard Forum.

BT GPS Reciever

Hi,
I have Black 2.5 installed on my Orange SPV m3100 and have installed my TomTom Navigator 6 software which seems to be running fine.
However I cannot get it to connect to my GPS reciever (it's not a TomTom one... that got knicked)
Has anyone had any success running this sort of set up? What setting do I need inside TomTom and in WM6?
Many thanks.
Crin

Just since you didn't mention it... you did pair the new GPS to the phone, right?
This is something I'm curious about as well. I won't get TomTom or Garmin, but Google Maps (free) is supposed to do the same thing.
-Steve

Crin said:
Hi,
I have Black 2.5 installed on my Orange SPV m3100 and have installed my TomTom Navigator 6 software which seems to be running fine.
However I cannot get it to connect to my GPS reciever (it's not a TomTom one... that got knicked)
Has anyone had any success running this sort of set up? What setting do I need inside TomTom and in WM6?
Many thanks.
Crin
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I have run Tomtom 6 with Black 2.5 with no problems, have you tried a soft reset, and do you know how to pair it up properly with the bluetooth receiver?
I run Tomtom version 6.030 (8320) with new map version 675.1409

Hi,
I am using NAVIZON.COM and a nokia LDW3 GPS receiver and I must select manualy in Navizon software my GPS.
Maybe it is an WM6 problem or Navizon problem.
try to select it before launching maps
regards
Richard

I have paired my m3100 with the GPS. In TomTom under GPS device I have selected "Other bluetooth GPS reciever" then it asks...
"GPS is connected to:"
Which do I select?

Crin said:
I have paired my m3100 with the GPS. In TomTom under GPS device I have selected "Other bluetooth GPS reciever" then it asks...
"GPS is connected to:"
Which do I select?
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I use com port 0, but you need to set this in bluetooth settings before you run Tomtom, let me know what you have done so far and I will help you out.

I just helped someone with a bluetooth gps problem where they has paired the gps, but it would not work.
I looked at the bluetooth settings in the comm manager, the COM ports tab.
There was nothing there but "New Incoming port" and "New Outgoing port".
I clicked on "New Outgoing port" there was the GPS listed, and I clicked it to assign a com port. After I picked one that it would accept, the GPS worked fine.
Just because you pair the GPS does not mean you are done with the config.
Be sure and assign the port number.
I hope this helps.

I've sorted it now, thanks for all help.
I'd already done the pairing... AND set up a serial port but it wasn't appearing in the list within TomTom. However, for some reason when I tried it again to show someone it wasn't working...
...it worked!
Isn't that always the way? I dunno if it was the soft reset. seems feasible so thanks for that suggestion.
Anyways, i'm a very happy bunny now. My SPV has never run so fast, my TomTom works and I have my messenger all merged with Outlook nicely (finally) WM6 Black 2.5 rules!

This was driving me crazy, i was trying all these things and couldn't get tomtom to find my gps. but like an idiot i had overlooked the com ports on the bluetooth settings.
I set it to com 0, went to tomtom and com 0 showed up under other bluetooth gps(before it was cam3 com7 RIL on Com6 and irda). Now its all good to go!
btw, does the RIL on Com6 mean that its seeing the internal gps?

Hi
I have installed GPS on com5, TomTom don't reconize it (don't list com5) but i choose com3 and save setting. Exit tomtom and edit binary file navigator.cfg and change com3 to com5 save and rstart TomTom, then reconize com5 and works fine.
Try yo do this.