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Hi, Just recieved an XDA Orbit and i'm wondering which GPS software you think works best on the device. Now i know that most people think that TomTom is the best GPS software but i'm looking for something that works well on the orbit.
I need the GPS software to be able to support postcodes!
So the ones i can think of are:
TomTom 6
Co-poilot
Desinator
Any others? Whats do you think works best.
BTW: I'm in the UK if that makes any difference.
Tom Tom 5
I am using TTN5 and I find it excellent. I have used the TomTom range from the old Routeplanner days and the early versions were flawed, but TTN3 and 5 got their act together and maps were updated. TTN6 did not add any revolutionary functionality and TomTom didn't offer an upgrade price so I have stuck with TTN5 and a subscription to Pocket GPS World to get updated camera and POI downloads.
I use TomTom 6 and in my opinion, its the best out there. Co-Pilot is really good too, got that free with the phone - but just prefer the TTN6.
TT6 works well
Destinator PN also
Destinator 6.1.1 sucks on Orbit/MdaIIIc, losing GPS and freezes
other gps software not tested
I use Route66 on my Orbit. Drove 850 miles each way from Boston to Dayton, OH without a hitch. As a matter of fact, it saved me at one point when I was having car problems. Used it to find the nearest Hotel's in the area.
Hi,
I use both TOM TOM 6 and Memory Map, both of which work very well.
Regards
Last I checked iGuidance was incompatible.
I use TT6 works really well, my only problem is that maps are 95% uptodate, which is fine most of the time, but I find in London it doesn't know if a street is now one way, or its now a bus lane, or you cant turn left on Euston Road and have to go into congestion zone and then forget to pay and have to pay the £50 fine
Hello!
Reading such comments make me feel sad...oh lord!
Navigation programs are meant to support you on the road so you don't have to spread a roadmap across your steering wheel and being distracted from traffic, not to replace your eyes, ears and most of all your brain.
Could'nt resist had to say that.
...bye
I have TT 6.2 {7130} and IGO 2006. Works fine.
McM said:
TT6 works well
Destinator PN also
Destinator 6.1.1 sucks on Orbit/MdaIIIc, losing GPS and freezes
other gps software not tested
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I use Destinator 6.1 with Iberia map (when I'm in the mainland, no Madeira maps yet ) and it works OK.
It captures GPS signal almost instantly and it's quite accurate regarding positioning.
Regards,
Have used TTN5 & TTN6 I prefer TTN5 as it is simple and quick to use. It would be perfect if the maps were spot on but close enough to keep me happy.
May have to use TTN6 when new London congestion charge comes in but its the one I would recommend.
After much searching and Googling, I'm a bit stumped.
I'm currently running VP3G's 2.0.1h variant of the WM6 ROMs, and A2DP works beautifully. So does CoPilot / MSN Live Search / Google Earth with Bluetooth GPS. But together? Skip goes the audio.
Some playing with the BitPool setting got me more or less audio before the skips. The BlueTooth GPS is the one that comes with the CoPilot bundle, SirfSTAR III, running at 4800 baud. Fairly standard fare. The A2DP headset is the Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 headphones. Ideally, I'd like to be able to use it for satnav - you've guessed it - via the bluetooth headphones.
I haven't tried installing the Widcomm stack yet, although that's next on my list. It'd just be nice to do it "natively" with the WM6 bluetooth drivers if possible.
Thanks in advance!
The Hermes has a hard enough time just with A2DP, co-existing with a BT GPS receiver will be really pushing the device's capabilities. You can try installing Sleuth255's A2DPFix v1.0 which does a really good job of fixing A2DP issues in general, but I suspect that you may be asking too much from our poor little devices...
John
Well, installing the Widcomm stack solved it hands down - whilst it seemed to use a little more CPU, it worked fine with the bluetooth GPS and the bluetooth audio, with the satnav application broadcasting audio via the headset.
I'll try the A2DP fix, and see if it does any good with the MS stack. Still, at least I've got a way around the problem now!
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Well, installing the Widcomm stack solved it hands down - whilst it seemed to use a little more CPU, it worked fine with the bluetooth GPS and the bluetooth audio, with the satnav application broadcasting audio via the headset.
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Interesting! I have always considered the Widcomm stack to be miles better than the M$ one (even though M$ has made quite some improvement recently), but just never had enough time to really play around with it to get it working on my TyTN. There was an effort started late last year to raise $500 for the first person to release a working version of the stack, but unfortunately it fizzled.
This might be enough to get me to try again. I am going on vacation for two weeks starting Sunday, this would be a good project for a rainy day -- I am going camping, it always rains when you're camping!!
John
Oh, absolutely, it wouldn't be a camping trip if it wasn't pouring down
After playing around with it some more (using the 0.3 version from the thread), it seems a bit flakey, sometimes failing to update properly, but I think that's more down to CoPilot than the stack - MSN Live Search and Google Maps seemed to work just fine when I was listening to my music. Nothing fancy on the music score either, just plain old Windows Media Player. A lower CPU usage program might help the satnav program - I'll try some alternatives shortly.
The A2DP fix made no difference at all, although I suspect that's mainly for the awful MS implementation on WM5. I haven't really noticed all that much difference in sound quality between the two stacks, although some people rave about the Widcomm, but maybe I'm just not as attuned as some people
There's no doubt that the Widcomm stack is better than the MS one, although it's not without it's apparent issues of course. I tend to use the MS one for general usage and the Widcomm if I need to do more than one bluetooth thing at once. Seems to work for now, although I need to put it in more heavy testing.
Both stacks give the odd skip, but I tend to think that may well be down to how much CPU usage I'm pushing out of the poor little thing
The problem with the Widcomm stack being ported properly was that it wasn't really organised all that well. If someone steps up to the podium, I'm pretty certain people will pay for the functionality. It's just finding someone with the skills and time to do it!
Give it a try, although beware of the potential caveats - reading up on the thread is recommended.
Hi,
Was just wondering if anyone had a recomendation for a good GPS porgram? I'm looking for good mapping rather than road directions. Google Maps Mobile is great, but not so good when I'm out of range from a cell tower...
Thanks for your help
smckane
GPS program
TomTom 6 with 6.75 map ( the best, for me)
Navigon 6 ( nice but slower with elf)
Route 66 gps (
Thanks for the sugestions giovanniriccio, but those are all road directions programs, and I don't drive (yet, sadly). Looking for something I can use when out walking / on my bike.
Cheers
How about OziExplorer?
http://www.oziexplorer.com/
Is that what you're looking for? You will need to supply your own (scanned or digital) maps, but if you have those (or find it in gps-forums): it worked great on my HTC Magician. Haven't installed it to my touch yet, though, so I can't promise it will work, and if you don't have the maps in the right format, it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to get it all right.
smckane said:
Thanks for the sugestions giovanniriccio, but those are all road directions programs, and I don't drive (yet, sadly). Looking for something I can use when out walking / on my bike.
Cheers
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I myself use Navigon more so then TOM TOM (I have both installed) only because I like the interface a bit better... and waiting an additional 3 seconds to have the program load or another 3 for a route to load in comparision to Tom Tom isn't that big of a deal for me.
However, that said. TomTom 6 and Navigon both give you the option to choose your method of transport, So you can choose walking route or biking instead of driving a car.
Navigon has these options: Fast Car, Standard Car, Slow Car, Motorbike, Lorry, Bicycle, Pedestrian. Now as far as I know it doesnt have walking paths programmed into it it just uses these settings to give you an estimate on how long till you reach your destination.
Same for Tomtom however it's options are as follows; Fastest Routes, Shortest Routes, Walking Routes, and Bicycle routes. I've never used any of these features so now sure how they really work BUT they are there.
Like I was saying about the load up time between the two, depending on what type of Touch you have will likely make a difference because honestly I've barely noticed a difference as far as route loading times but that could be because I have the touch enhanced so it runs fairly fast.
Hope this helps!
Memory-Map
Memory map is brilliant for mountian biking and walking.
http://www.memory-map.com/
30 day trial available and good quality maps (UK, France) available or you can import. Runs on PC and PPC so you can dowload and analyse your routes
I'd second Memory Maps, it has worked brillantly for me on a number of WM devices including the touch. It can be a bit pricey for maps, but Memory maps navigator is free and can import and calibrate scanned maps.
Thank you
Lots of options to play with over the Christams holidays!
Cheers!
smckane
Hey Guys...
Heres a link to the Cube Icons thread I made. If you go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351551&page=4
you'll find not only icons for the aplauncher for TomTom and Navigon but I also made some Icons for the mediahub panel of the cube as well.
Anyone know how to fix the "No maps found!" TomTom error? I'm currently using TomTom 6.203 (7220) with USA/Canada maps version 6.75 (1409). I have the maps folder in my microSD card.
No Maps Found
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM, dos any body know how to fix, you cannot get into settings to look for maps, it just takes you to tomtom download page
Not sure if this will help but I had had the problem on my treo before and I just simply took the map off and brought it back onto the SD card.
I'm also not sure if the placement of the map has anything to do with it but I had originally had it in the TOMTOM folder. When I moved it to the root menu of the SD card it read the map fine.
Right now I'm running Tomtom 6.010 (7720) and my map is "USA and Canada 675_1409'
I found the solution in another thread from kunz:
Disable Bluetooth Explorer from Settings -> Connections -> Bluetooth -> Bluetooth FTP
It causes TomTom to think that the bluetooth folder is your storage card and tries to load map from there. Disabling it should do the trick.
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This worked out instantly for me.
You guys may also want to try Navigon Navigator for your phone. I have the latest version 6.2 and it runs super smooth has a way nicer interface then tom tom and has voice control so you can actually just press a button on the phone and say "navigate home" and the program does the route and stuff for you. Its a great feature to use instead of flipping through your favorites or something like that.
I have both tomtom and Navigon on my touch. I use Navigon more however I have noticed that they both sometimes find different routes. On that occasion I noticed tomtoms routes are a little quicker (by say a few minutes... but that could simply be because it calculates the estimated time a bit different) Either way.. something to check out at least. Look up some information on the program and check out screen shots of it. You can tell right away the interface and maps themselves look alot nicer then tomtoms. Both seem to be about the same as far as up to date maps go.
Question!
OK Guys, please excuse my noob question, but as far as I know the Touch does not have GPS. Do you use external Bluetooth GPS devices or how do you use all these apps?
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OK Guys, please excuse my noob question, but as far as I know the Touch does not have GPS. Do you use external Bluetooth GPS devices or how do you use all these apps?
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Yes, bluetooth gps. I use GlobalSat BT-359, and I'd like to buy one day "Freedom Keychain GPS SiRF III Receiver" or maybe the small Holux GPS Receiver.
As for software doing maps, there are plenty. I know of: googlemaps, gpstuner, gloposis and sometimes the necessary companion 'gpsgate'. Recently gpstuner got google maps support built in, but I haven't tried (previously one had to build maps oneself for gpstuner).
With a bluetooth gps would it work with garmin maps topo or road maps?
I use GlobalSat BT-359, with Windows Live, along with Microsoft Voice Command 6.1, you can actually tell it where you want to go. The mapping software works fine. The only occasional problem I have, and maybe someone has an answer for this, is it takes a while (5 minutes sometimes), to sync with the GPS "puck". Sometimes closing and reopening the app. several times helps it along. Once in a rare while it will lose the port, as well. I am using port 1. Does anyone have a solution to this? Otherwise, it works great when everything is sync'd.
thanks. Gary
Why not try the "Igo My way 2006 plus"
Igo My way 2006 plus works great with my Touch and it alerts me on approaching the speed cameras. You should try it out. The maps are much more detailed then on other Gps software i used. If you want to use it and you don't find a trial, plz pm me and i will help.
p.s. you have to own a Bt. Gps receiver.
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Igo My way 2006 plus works great with my Touch and it alerts me on approaching the speed cameras. You should try it out. The maps are much more detailed then on other Gps software i used. If you want to use it and you don't find a trial, plz pm me and i will help.
p.s. you have to own a Bt. Gps receiver.
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That software looks pretty cool, but I don't see any mention of maps for US/Canada on their website... Do these exist, or is it just for European users?
Thanks....
Hi all, I've been looking for an alternative to tom tom, preferably one with updated maps that don't require you to buy a dedicated unit because for some reason they are not realising a a new wm client...which the new maps require...
So I got garmin mobile xt, loaded it on my phone, with 2008 europe map, and first of all I was disapointed that some things like new housing estates that have been there for the past 2 years are not on these maps, although theres some more roads than teh tomtom ones i noticed, also, its painfully slow, I haven't actually tried using it as a navigation system yet as I find it annoyingly slow just browsing the map, even the menu's seem slow, the detail is amazing that it gives you, but it just seems tooo slow, I'm using battery status, tried overclocking it, but it makes no difference.
I'm wondering if the fact its one huge map (1.4gig) is a problem, or if its jsut the software, I'm subscribed to garmin for updates, and regulary checking the website for updated versions, but no such luck as of yet, I would love to use this app, But just find it to frustrating at the moment, I've also read that the garmin calculates routes much more suitabably than tomtom, and the multidrop function is also quite good, which is the only reason I looked at the garmin unit.
Also anyone here use co-pilot 7? I've been thinking about buying this if the maps are better than tomtom, and if its as comfortable to use as tomtom
iGo is quite good... not sure what the German maps are like. http://www.i-go.com its specifically made for PPCs.
I have my rhodium for a week right now, and notice some gps lag in tomtom 7. I unlocked my rhodium with the hard spl and tried several roms and radio roms, most of them perform similar regarding the gps lag; tomtom is always one update tick behind.
If I adjust the POLLInterval in the registry, from 1000 ms to a lower value, the position on the map in tomtom is not updated more frequently, so the lag is still the same.
I also tried the gps patch from ITDev, but without succes, lag remains the same.
Then I switched the gps settings in tomtom to my old bluetooth gps, and also there is the lag. It seems the problem is somewhere in windows mobile or tomtom, and not in the qualcomm gps-one driver/settings.
Has someone tested the lag with another navigation package and compared that with the gps lag in tomtom?? I'm going to try it with navigon, and try just one more radio, the latest one: Radio_Rhodium_4.47.25.24. If that's not working I will wait till the official WM6.5 rom is released.
Another question, does somebody know how to get the assisted gps working?? or correct the gps lag?? I was unable to resolve the lag with any of the tweaks discussed here on XDA.
Just arrived today , the updated GPS fix, saw positive reactions!
http://www.htc.com/nl/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=250&act=sd&cat=all
I have tried that radio too, still a lag of 1 second in tomtom, the same as the update frequency, just one tock behind.
Just tested navigon, together with Radio_Rhodium_4.47.25.24. Completely no lag at all, when I drive over a roundabout it displays my position correctly, when a drive over bridges and rivers it displays my position correctly. When I do this with tomtom I already passed the roundabout while tomtom is stil approaching the roundabout.
When I look at the gps settings in Navigon is seems that navigon reads out the gps directly from com 4.
If I want to make a same setting in tomtom it is not possible. With some roms and radios com4 is not even listed in tomtom, and with other roms I have com4 but can only access it when I let windows control my gps. This box can be checked in the settings/system/extrnal gps dialog on the third tap (access). When I uncheck this box I don't get the internal gps working.
Strange that navigon does not have gps lag, and tomtom is continously 1 update tick behand. And the update frequency in Navigon is much larger then the update frequency in tomtom.
Sometimes the position freezes for a second in navigon, but after that the position is correct again.
To summarize, what an amazing difference between tomtom and navigon.
Where did u find the radio 4.47.25.24???
http://xdadev.f1ip.net/index.php?dir=Rhodium/Radio
that's where that radio comes from
tried that latest radio with tomtom, the gps lag is still not gone.
i'm not sure if this has to do with radio's roms etc. i tried igo 8 and tomtom. both lagged horrible. then with gps tweaks it improved a little .. but still lag.
Then i bought Copilot 8 .... NO LAG AT ALL .... nothing.... nada . When the car turned ... copilot is ready.
So ... why should it be the radio or the rom when lag differs on software ?
I think it has to do with programming the navigation applications.
i have also tried the patch from HTC for the radio and the lag is still there when using tomtom. surely between HTC and Tomtom this can be sorted out.
very frustrating to be paying such a lot for a phone only to find that the one application i use everyday works better on my 2 year old TYTNII.
If it was not for me recently renewing my traffic and speed cam sub then I would ditch them.