hello,
I have a hitachi g1000 with windows mobile 2002, i want to rid off from sprint win version with all functions and feature and install a normal winCE.
the problem is, I cant do that, downloaded from micrsoft website trial verision but when run setup.exe it stops and ask tell my windows on PC need some other application and etc and etc. I install one application .NET Framework 2 but still not possible to go on with setup.
I would like to know is it only with me or someone also experince similar problems, please share with me yourexperience if you have installed on your pda win CE and how.
is there any other way to install it on my hitachi, or what I'm doing wrong?
Hello dar22.
It seems you misunderstand the whole Pocket PC OS issue.
You cannot just install Windows CE because it is not a generic operating system like Windows XP.
First, Windows Mobile is a derivative of Windows CE, but it also adds some functions. Even if you could replace your OS pure windows CE cannot run most apps developed for the PPC.
Second, Windows Mobile is custom tailored for every device (so is Win CE) and the result is called ROM image. You can't just install a generic version and then add drivers because they all come together from the manufacturer.
So to conclude this:
Unless the devices OEM provides an upgrade, there is no way to change the OS.
yes I uderstand than the generic WIN CE comes without drivers for a specific PDA, but the whole idea that I don't need that pda's most of it's functions such as camera and phone functions, I need only to have WINCE on it.
Can anybody advice me how to rid off from original Windows Mobile and install instead of that pure win ce version?
I mean what applications should I have on my PC to flash my device with WIN CE?
You still haven't understood me.
When I said 'drivers' I meant such basic things like memory, touch screen, device buttons.
Even those things need specific drivers from the OEM so there is no way to install Win CE on your device, unless:
1) You can dump the original ROM and extract all the drivers.
2) You can get MS Platform Builder (full and legal version), incorporate the drivers and create a special image for your device.
(I think you actually have to be an OEM and have contract with MS for the second part)
I am not sure what you tried to install, but there is no Win CE version you can just flash to any device and it will work.
levenum, thanks for your support, what you think can I install linux instead? I just don't want to have the sprint windows version
Well, you could try looking for linux version, but I am not sure there is one for your device.
You see, for mobile devices it is pretty much the same thing with linux. OEMs do not release even the basic drivers so there are no generic OS for these devices.
There are linux projects for HP iPaqs and also xanadux project (look in the WiKi) for HTC devices, but I don't know of anything for your device.
Perhaps if you specify what exactly bugs you about the OS maybe we can recommend apps and reg tweaks to get around is.
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Hi Together,
I try to update the radio and os on my universal. My problem is that I only have a Linux machine. I tried to use VMware, Paralles and VirtualBox with Windows XP Pro inside, but the update always fails. I tried on a Windows PC, which I borrowed for a short time, and it worked. So I think the problem is not my knowledge of the update process.
Since I'm quite new to the universal I still would like to play around with some ROMs, there for I'm still searching for a way to perform updates via Linux.
Of cause I would prefer a more "native" method, instead of using a virtual machine.
Any ideas, hints, etc.?
Best Greetings
Thorsten
I'm watching for this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296436
In TODO file which cames with latest flasher sources I see Universal to support in nearest feature.
However, I'm able to upgrade CE rom using vmware from my linux, but unfortunately not GSM rom (I suspect I have corrupted GSM)
Hi Vacula,
thank you for your hint, I see there is hope...
I don't think your radio is bad, I have the same error on my tested VMs. But on a Windows PC my universal flashes like charm ...
Greetings
Thorsten
Hope you'r rigth! I'll try to flash from windows machine as soon as I get one, and 'll report here just to know what's current status with virtual machines in linux and usb.
I ran across Windows Mobile SDK and some emulators/images of WM6.1 on microsoft's website and when i ran it, it comes up on the screen as if it were a real ppc, allowing me to install cabs and have them function and all. I can't get the program to allow me to change the BIN it uses as the image. If this could be figured out, could this be used to test ROMs before flashing (I want to get into cooking)?
i dont not believe the emulator support real roms as it dont deal with drivers and other hardware related issues at all
it also comes as standalone so people dont need to install the sdk
Believe it or not, this is the operating system that I use as my main system and have been doing so for years!
But alas HTC Sync is not compatible! Come back Microsoft AS haha.
LMAO Why the hell would you use Windows Server as a personal OS XP
Yeah I know! I originally installed Win 2k way back when, just as a test system and slowly I started installing everything on it and then upgraded to 2k3, most things that I use have been compatible up until now!
sh500 said:
Believe it or not, this is the operating system that I use as my main system and have been doing so for years!
But alas HTC Sync is not compatible! Come back Microsoft AS haha.
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Is it just that the installer won't run (ie says your OS is not compatible)?
If that's the case, you can fix that with Installshield. You just need to change the platform restrictions as many desktop apps will refuse to install on server OS. I used to run 2008 server as a 'desktop' in the days before Windows 7.
Ah, I remember someone talking about that a while back. Will have to give that a go and see how it goes.
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Is it just that the installer won't run (ie says your OS is not compatible)?
If that's the case, you can fix that with Installshield. You just need to change the platform restrictions as many desktop apps will refuse to install on server OS. I used to run 2008 server as a 'desktop' in the days before Windows 7.
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Just installed a trial version of Install Shield; any idea how I would go about actually changing these permissions??
I'd use Orca (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370557(VS.85).aspx) from (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa370834(VS.85).aspx)
It might be possible to do using installshield too, but haven't used it.
You want to check the LaunchCondition table for something related to operating systems supported.
I'm guessing both of these programs would require an MSI of the application as opposed to an EXE, which is what I have.
EDIT; Just got it from the temporary folder. Will try again.
2nd EDIT; Removed the install conditions, but an another error is generated- something about a CA_Driver. Seems everything except server 2000 and 2003 are not supported - 2008 is though (!)
Hi, did you ever manage to install it? I'm stuck on the same error as th eprevious post.
Cheers,
Dale
I have experience as a .net developer, a SQL developer, and a network administrator, but I've never done anything with mobile development. I'll be able to do some damage, but I need someone to point me in the right direction here.
I am not interested in messing with the existing windows CE os AT ALL, only Android. I motivated by this phone because it's the only modern phone who's ESN can be activated on verizion without a data plan.
SO, can an experienced person within the community give me a lay of the land of where I can contribute and get working?
my 2c: Most of the hacking i've done was on PSP, and they always loaded custom firmware by getting into the core / bios area, just like all of the other jailbreak methods. Can we do that?
Gaujo said:
I have experience as a .net developer, a SQL developer, and a network administrator, but I've never done anything with mobile development. I'll be able to do some damage, but I need someone to point me in the right direction here.
I am not interested in messing with the existing windows CE os AT ALL, only Android. I motivated by this phone because it's the only modern phone who's ESN can be activated on verizion without a data plan.
SO, can an experienced person within the community give me a lay of the land of where I can contribute and get working?
my 2c: Most of the hacking i've done was on PSP, and they always loaded custom firmware by getting into the core / bios area, just like all of the other jailbreak methods. Can we do that?
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well, one major thing that you can help with, is getting drivers for the kin two, because the ones we have are only diag drivers, and do not let us see the phone in windows explorer...the diag drivers only let us see the filesystem in Bitpim.
welcome to the "i know kung-fu but this seems to need jiu-jitsu" group of developpers.
As noted above... drivers.. drivers drivers....
In the other threads you can see my hardware attempts resume about the usb access to the devices and explanation about why we didnt flashed anything yet (tldr; is shop-protected).
The only driver available for flashing (in windows) or linux direct access turned us into a nvflash executable being frozen, doing anything. For the other modes we have not data on how to operate with them.
On your request: yes, you could run android here, as tegra 2500 was made for wince and android (currently they work with froyo), so i guess we could do the move (i would want to backup Win CE anyway... just in case ... for messing around with flashing...).
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welcome to the "i know kung-fu but this seems to need jiu-jitsu" group of developpers.
As noted above... drivers.. drivers drivers....
In the other threads you can see my hardware attempts resume about the usb access to the devices and explanation about why we didnt flashed anything yet (tldr; is shop-protected).
The only driver available for flashing (in windows) or linux direct access turned us into a nvflash executable being frozen, doing anything. For the other modes we have not data on how to operate with them.
On your request: yes, you could run android here, as tegra 2500 was made for wince and android (currently they work with froyo), so i guess we could do the move (i would want to backup Win CE anyway... just in case ... for messing around with flashing...).
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I've never edited or created a driver, but if someone will point me in a specific driver, I will hammer away as best I can.
I don't understand what you mean here:
" The only driver available for flashing (in windows) or linux direct access turned us into a nvflash executable being frozen, doing anything. For the other modes we have not data on how to operate with them."
Point 1) The APX mode (booting with USB keys + power) is what we called as flashing "part", which uses nvflash (.exe) as tool to do flashing to the devices.
The driver you can get from nvidia (that one exists) lets nvflash find the device but the kin seems to be writeprotected, so the tool outputs an error while connecting to the KIN. Also, further attemps make nvflash get stuck in the connection process forever (and ever).
Point 2) The other modes (normal or special keys hold) have no known drivers nor known-yet ways to get them. Of course, if i knew how to make one, i would have tried to make it myself, as i tried with the MPMz protocol on the kin, so can't point you in any direction there.
That's what i meant.
Hi, I have a question about WINDOWS CE device a car-radio SENCOR SCD 9204, which I use in my car and try to customize it.
There is a thing:
The radio runs Windows CE 5.0. It has the GPS navigation, Radio, DVD/MP3 player, and it's own user interface. You can get the original UI of win CE with simple trick, use TotalCMD to browse the file system, atc.
It has the splash screen, which appears when you start the engine, or start the radio... It says only "LOADING", its an .bmp image.
I want to change that splash screen, to my own. And thats the problem. I found that image in the file system, I can download it to my computer, but the file properties says me "in ROM", so it's not possible to change it easily by rewriting it by another file.
Any idea how to change it is gladly accepted.
I've been looking everywhere on the internet, but found nothing.. Unfortunately, there is no such community over the WIN CE, as over the Win Mobile.
I have experiences with flashing Windows Mobile ROMs, or ANDROID ROMs, not the WIN CE.
Thank you for your answers.