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Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
bobybravo said:
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
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Thx, I'll try that. However, even when the sd card is removed the crashes occur.
Just had another crash....connected via usb to my pc: after 5 secs screen faded to black. I had to soft reset. After that some 'invisible window' was blocking the start menu. Closed it (via the close button top right) and got the start menu again. Re-connected to usb and is ok until now....
I also see 173mA of drain.
I had the same problem.............and i change back to the original swedish wm6 rom and it was better for a couple of days, then got worse started to freze fade out until one day it "died" now i can only get into bootloader but cant boot any roms not the original swedish rom (wm6) or any other rom, in boot loader it only says IPL 3.13.0001 SPL 3.13.0001 no gsm or other stuff but when conected to USB it says usb, I tried the SD flash to but no good so my sugestion it that u see to that ur device is "open spl" if it take the same route that mine did.
(i change to a brand new battery when the problem where starting but taht didnt help.....)
I guess now as i understand it my only hope is to find the original shiped rom wm 5 swedish rom?! and try if that will flash onto my device.
i hope u dont get the same problem as me.
Only problems, no solutions...
Mine (p3300; Black&Blue v5) got a new Battery, new SD-Card. Did´nt help. I removed the SD, removed SIM, loaded the battery, then turned it on again and from now on it´s sometimes booting, sometimes not. If it´s booted up (after long time lying with removed battery) it doesn´t live long enough to flash it with another (old) rom.
Now it´s lying next to me, with all this expensive accesoires, doesn´t talk to me and say what the problem is. My Provider called me and asked if I want a new one.
Again HTC? I love the functions of WM...
I have the same problem with my Dopod M700 (Love)
But mine doesn't freeze it just auto soft reset itself... i don't know whats going on... somebody please help.
Changing to different ROM doesn't solve the problems... put back the original factory ROM also doesn't help.
Here still the same problem.
I've upgraded the radio to 03.21.90: now WIFI isn't working anymore and the phone still 'crashes'. I'll change it to 03.18.90 and see what happens.
I've emptied the battery several times (until bootloader switches off) and recharged with the original AC adapter. Did a hard reset on battery 100%: problem remains.
There are several threads with the same problem. I didn't find an answer, exept maybe to replace the motherboard.
I really wonder if there's anyone who knows what is causing the problem.
It could be the graphics card (screen fading) or the battery/charge chip...no idea.
I've also noticed that when a crash occurs, it often takes some time until it boots again, as if the Artemis needs to 'cool down'.
System Crash
PeteNewt said:
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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I'm having exactly the same problem which happened after I upgrade from Artemis love 32 to 33.
I have tried everything mentioned here, changed th Rom 5 times, went back to the Ship Rom, but the system keep on crashing.This is the second time this is happening to my Artemis. The solution at the first time was replacing the motherboard and nothing else, as it has worked fine after that.
I posted my problem in another thread here but no solution yet. Four days back and after I got enough with it, I took my Artemis to the HTC work shop and they told me that they couldn't find the reason for the crash, and the only way to solve the problem is to replace the motherboard which will cost me too much.
Strange it happens to several phones, and more or less in the same way.
I've changed my Rom to B&B 5.0 now. Still same problem.
Wifi isn't working at all anymore: tried several radio versions, none brings back the wifi. Is this the end of my Artemis?
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Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
Maart84 said:
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
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I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
So...installed B&B 5.0 (thx Tom ).
I did several complete 'battery charging cycles'.
I formatted my SDHC card.
It seems to me that it crashes less now (only once yesterday, not yet today).
Wifi seems to be definitly gone.
It probably isn't SW-related, but why would it crash less now than before?
I think that the most probable cause would be the chip that handles the battery status.
Let's hope that the chip somehow got resetted with the charging cycles.
No luck....it crashed all the time yesterday.
It seems that it happens more often when it is in my pocket (temperature related?).
When it lies on the cupboard it seems that it stays ok...again very strange.
Also while charging the battery status was 48%. I removed the charger and the status jumped to 100% :s.
Does anyone know how much it costs to have the MB replaced?
MDA Compact III
Hi!
I had the same promlem with my MDA Compact III!
I think it's a hardware problem. I tried so many roms, original, and cooked too... change the battery, clean the motherboard, but didn't help.
I was nervous, take out the battery for 5sec then reinstall it and took it in the refrigerator (NOT IN THE FREEZER!!!) for about 10minutes!
The result: don't crash about 1 hour!
So i took it back for 1day. And now, it works 2weeks continously, with no crash.
But unfortunately the battery (also the new one) holds the charge only 1day.
ElVikin said:
I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
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Same problem here. I called HTC, they picked up my device, replaced the inside (motherboard) I guess because my device has a different IMEI number now. Very quick service, within one week my device was at my desk again.
I had similar problems.
had my HTC repaired (new MB)
problems remained the same.
after two repairs I received a new device and even that did not solve my problems.
Up till I bought a new battery
now he is working perfect again!
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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just get a new battery and it hopefully will do...it solved my problems...first time i hat the issue....right now i'm having it again...and it seems like the battery
you say it stays like that or 2 days...try running some heavy apps like igo or something other which is memory and battery consuming..it will probably crash..if it does...i'm 95% sure it's the battery
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
velhote said:
Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
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Thanks for replying, it seems that the problem has fixed itself. i put it in the original charger for about 3 or 4 days. it still crashed a couple times just reset with the charger connected put it back. i now just disconnect it from changer (2 days) (after 3 or 4 days in the charger) without any crash. runned tomtom for couple or houres?
i also turned the phone function off and removed the simcard.
hopefully it will keep running and then i gonna try to put my simcard back in.
Thanks
Fill
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Ok it crashed already again
My XDA Orbit went crazy today, first I couldn't start him at all, he wasn't react on "power button". After few attemts he finally started. I connected him to PC but he turned off after couple minutes. From this moment I can't start windows, it stops at starting screen (with IPL, SPL, GSM, OS). After a while screen starting to quakes (like a low frequency on CRT). I tried hard reset, it won't help and run it in bootloader mode but Orbit just reset.
Additonal info:
IPL 3.04.0001
SPL 3.04.0000
GSM 02.67.90
OS 3.4.0.0
ROM: Original WM6 from O2
Can anyone help me?
Have you tried a different barttery?
No, I didn't. I don't know anybody with artemis to borow another battery.
EDIT: I checked battery voltage, it's about 3,85V and now i noticed something, on battery sticker is printed it is for ARTE160 3.7VDC-1200mAh but on the phone it's printed ARTE200 5VDV-1A. Is that can cause the problem?
Finally I forced it to run in bootloader mode and flashed with the same O2 WM6 ROM. He started and I was abble to flash USPL and other ROM. It's better but still sometimes phone just poweroff with no reason
flisak said:
Finally I forced it to run in bootloader mode and flashed with the same O2 WM6 ROM. He started and I was abble to flash USPL and other ROM. It's better but still sometimes phone just poweroff with no reason
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Hi
Had a similar problem!!! Try reflashing the rom....It worked for me..I used the o2 stock rom found on the the artemis wiki in the ftp section.... Can also highly recommend the Touch rom found in the windows mobile 6 section of the artemis section here..
regards
Lohtse
I bought a new battery but phone still turning off and freezes. Now I can't even turn it on, sometimes it starts but screen slowly fades away and after few seconds its only black screen with black light. It's propably a hardware problem but what?
EDIT: I started it, working fine when it's connected with pc but when I disconnect it freezes after couple of minutes.
flisak
open the device and check the screen is connected propperly, piss easy, just be very carefull.
if this does not work buy a new LCD.
Hi, I have the same problem with my Artemis, did anyone find a solution? Can be a problem with the LCD?
And plus one here. The device always turn off, and is difficult to turn on again. Rplaced battery and is the same.....
I've got an XDA Orbit that periodically hangs (full black screen and occasionally this seems to drain the battery very quickly). I've taken it apart and reseated the connectors and these all look ok.
Seems to happen when you're taking it out of a pocket to answer a call etc. Sometime it just requires a soft-reset but occasionally it just doesn't respond. In these instances I have found that twisting it slightly across the diagonal (top left to bottom right bending back slightly) and then resetting the device seems to bring it back to life and it's ok for a few hour/days again. If I leave it alone, i.e. not in my jeans pocket - it's fine, so think it's hardware related but not sure which bit is faulty - screen, touch-screen, mainboard etc.
If I bend it the same as above when it's working the screen goes screwy and causes it to crash so think it's definitely this is what's causing the device to crash. However, the clock seems to keep going (I'm assuming so as in most incidents it doesn't seem to lose the correct time - although I might just be seeing the problem the instant after it has crashed) so don't know whether the mainboard is still ok.
Just thought it might help some if you try the slight twisting described above to see if that helps with these to get them working and if anyone has any ideas how I can work out which bit of mine is faulty I'd be grateful.
when I try to flash the ROM 6.5 for my HP3300 after 4% flashing it restrats again. Pls help me out. I think this problem might be with my Ext_ROM. How to unlok EXT_ ROM
what is the best touch rom to use for my xda orbit. and where can i get it
lohtse said:
Hi
Had a similar problem!!! Try reflashing the rom....It worked for me..I used the o2 stock rom found on the the artemis wiki in the ftp section.... Can also highly recommend the Touch rom found in the windows mobile 6 section of the artemis section here..
regards
Lohtse
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what is the best touch rom to use for my xda orbit. and where can i get it
Well it seems that I'm having similar issues with my Orbit.
I've been having problems with it for a few weeks and they seem to be getting much worse now.
Occasionally it would just lock up and freeze, but after frantic tapping it will unfreeze itself and continue working fine. But over the past few days it's been locking up regulary. Removing the battery was the only way to get it going again.
But now it just won't do anytihing. As soon as I start it up I either get a white screen (it phases in during the splash screen), or it'll start up, freezes after a few seconds, then eventually switches itself off. Hard resetting it makes no difference at all. Changing the battery didn't work either. I always keep it on charge overnight, could that be the problem? Maybe I'm just overcharging the battery (if that's even possible).
Note: As I've typed this, I've switched it on again only to find the battery's flat, even though it's been off for most of the day (I gave up trying to start it up). The battery usually lasts for the whole day - maybe even 2 days if I don't use it much. I had it on charge overnight as I said.
I'll try another battery to see if that works. If not then what can I do?
Hi iv been searching the forums for the last week or so trying to find if anyone has fixed the white screen crash. tryed everything i can think of.
New battery still dont work
Changed rom and radio over 100 times with different cooked and original roms
the phone seems to overheat and the crashing gets worse.
Has anyone got any more knowledge of this problem please help.
Many thanks Russ
Just looked at the post bellow my new post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599000
Seems to have the same problem, i have had the phone in the fridge for 10 - 20 min and it seems to work.
Could it be the battery being shorted by something
just dismantled my orbit, took out the internal clock battery and turned the phone on, white screen instanly no boot or anything, put it back in and the phone works for x amount of time. anyone know where i can get a new battery or whatever this cell is
Hello,
I have bought a phone from someone saying he has crash problems with the phone, it freezes randomly and then restarts.
I thought it was the tempature problem, but apparantly it crashes at low ones too. I have put coolpaste on there too so it wouldnt get too hot its around 70-80 degrees maximum.
There was one reboot that I noticed was a blue screen flicker for about half a second and it froze and it crashed, after the flicker the screen was normal but still crashed.
I have the last kernel message, I dont know what everything means, if someone can help me?
I thought it was a software problem thats why I bought it, but theres more to it than just that.
Link to pastebin : /91gXMPLs
Thanks in advance!
Marki362 said:
Hello,
I have bought a phone from someone saying he has crash problems with the phone, it freezes randomly and then restarts.
I thought it was the tempature problem, but apparantly it crashes at low ones too. I have put coolpaste on there too so it wouldnt get too hot its around 70-80 degrees maximum.
There was one reboot that I noticed was a blue screen flicker for about half a second and it froze and it crashed, after the flicker the screen was normal but still crashed.
I have the last kernel message, I dont know what everything means, if someone can help me?
I thought it was a software problem thats why I bought it, but theres more to it than just that.
Link to pastebin : /91gXMPLs
Thanks in advance!
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try buy new stock battery and good luck
achmthidyt said:
try buy new stock battery and good luck
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I bought a new battery, its chinese though, but even there it reboots, I dont know if the battery has to be original not to boot?
I honestly dont know what else it could be.
Hello everyon everyone.
I have the SM-P600 version, everything was good until the beginning of the week when touchpad began to go off without reason, and completely random.
I first reinstalled several official ROMs from the most recent to the oldest, with no significant improvement
Then i rooted and tried Lineage, it looked good for a while, but in the end same problem.
Please note, when the tablet begins to mess, the reboots are occuring more and more often and after a while it turns in a loop and im not even able to switch it off.
Samsung logo display, black screen, logo, black screen, etc ...
I think rather for a battery-side problem, if some people have faced similar problem, I'm taking help.
Do you know if by chance we can use the tablet without battery to test this theory?
Thank you in advance for any answers.
jb1207 said:
Hello everyon everyone.
I have the SM-P600 version, everything was good until the beginning of the week when touchpad began to go off without reason, and completely random.
I first reinstalled several official ROMs from the most recent to the oldest, with no significant improvement
Then i rooted and tried Lineage, it looked good for a while, but in the end same problem.
Please note, when the tablet begins to mess, the reboots are occuring more and more often and after a while it turns in a loop and im not even able to switch it off.
Samsung logo display, black screen, logo, black screen, etc ...
I think rather for a battery-side problem, if some people have faced similar problem, I'm taking help.
Do you know if by chance we can use the tablet without battery to test this theory?
Thank you in advance for any answers.
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I think I'd be taking a close look at the physical power button. Seems to me that if it had gone flakey it could cause something like this.
marshallartsoz said:
I think I'd be taking a close look at the physical power button. Seems to me that if it had gone flakey it could cause something like this.
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Hello and thanks for you answer,
Just to precise i never faced this issue while flashing an official or custom ROM, dont know if it is just luck or it can help in anything
Anyway ill try to check it the power button just in case
It's weird I just started having this exact problem myself. One morning I unplugged it and it had shut itself down overnight. Since then it randomly reboots. Sometimes I can get 20/30 minutes out of it, but once it starts, it can get into multiple reboots with the only way to stop it is to plug in the charger. I tried wiping cashe/dalvic (no help). Nothing was recently changed (including apps). Tried resoldering battery connector (battery was replaced a year or so ago with OEM Sammy). The P600 is rooted with TWRP installed, but no custom ROM. Usually the reboots start while I'm doing something (surfing, email, etc.), but I don't think it will do it while sleeping. I'm considering the power button, but I don't see this exact problem anywhere else, but this post. Any ideas?
OK. My tablet has taken a turn for the worse. Now it is stuck in a continuous boot loop. I tried the power switch, no help. I tried booting into TWRP, and it went back into rebooting before I could do anything. Strange thing is I can put it into download mode indefinitely without it rebooting. Should I ODIN back to stock? I tried the resoldering of the battery connection earlier. Any other ideas?