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Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:
The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!
Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.
Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.
Re: Device SMS Address
jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve
Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743
Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.
4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks
You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.
And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com
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rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.
4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.
When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.
4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me
I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.
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Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!
HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks
I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.
Can anybody help to define, How push email is setup? and how it can work on imate jasjar
Check this out: http://www.htcclub.net/en/toontips.php?ID=10
Exchange SP2 setup
Does anyone have any info on what is required from Exchange to set this push mail up. i.e. HTTPS access from web, etc
Also i am on vodafone so what would my device address be? i.e. sms://<number> etc? do you need this? :?
Thanks.
Exchange SP2 setup
Does anyone have any info on what is required from Exchange to set this push mail up. i.e. HTTPS access from web, etc
Also i am on vodafone so what would my device address be? i.e. sms://<number> etc? do you need this? :?
Thanks.
Hi deluxe,
Can you tell us what version of Exchange you are pointing to and are you trying to configure the sync from the device or via the ActiveSync desktop wizard?
I assume you have a AKU2 ROM installed on your device.
Setting up push email is very easy to do provided you have a box running OWA with SP2 applied (ideally SP2 on all boxes but you can get away with it just on OWA and the server with your mailbox). The default settings on the Exchange end should be enough to get you going.
You mention you’re being prompted for the device address, which implies that Exchange is falling back to using “Always Up To Date” (i.e. sending an SMS to your device each time you get a new mail). This is almost definitely not what you want to use. Are you sure you have SP2 installed?
Anyway, I am rambling so here is a simple check list.
Exchange SP2 on the OWA/Mailbox servers.
AKU2 Windows Mobile 5 Rom on the device.
ActiveSync 4.1 on the PC if you use the PC wizard.
Synchronisation with Exchange working ‘before’ trying to configure Direct Push from the scheduling options.
Access to your OWA (or ISA etc.) server via whatever means you want to run Direct Push over (i.e. WiFi, GPRS Internet APN, Private APN etc.)
Do we have any idea on the impact on the Data bill regarding the Push ? (Of course it will depend on HOW MUCH spam you receive ) but just having the PUSH always on, will this effect our data bill ?
Cheers
I am running exchange 2003 sp2, but currently do not have access outside the company .i.e. i have not nated it out. i have the website running internally so i presume i just need to nat the server to a public address.
I was trying to use activesync to set this up, and i am running the new rom.
djwillis said:
Hi deluxe,
Can you tell us what version of Exchange you are pointing to and are you trying to configure the sync from the device or via the ActiveSync desktop wizard?
I assume you have a AKU2 ROM installed on your device.
Setting up push email is very easy to do provided you have a box running OWA with SP2 applied (ideally SP2 on all boxes but you can get away with it just on OWA and the server with your mailbox). The default settings on the Exchange end should be enough to get you going.
You mention you’re being prompted for the device address, which implies that Exchange is falling back to using “Always Up To Date” (i.e. sending an SMS to your device each time you get a new mail). This is almost definitely not what you want to use. Are you sure you have SP2 installed?
Anyway, I am rambling so here is a simple check list.
Exchange SP2 on the OWA/Mailbox servers.
AKU2 Windows Mobile 5 Rom on the device.
ActiveSync 4.1 on the PC if you use the PC wizard.
Synchronisation with Exchange working ‘before’ trying to configure Direct Push from the scheduling options.
Access to your OWA (or ISA etc.) server via whatever means you want to run Direct Push over (i.e. WiFi, GPRS Internet APN, Private APN etc.)
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Daimaou said:
Do we have any idea on the impact on the Data bill regarding the Push ? (Of course it will depend on HOW MUCH spam you receive ) but just having the PUSH always on, will this effect our data bill ?
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In our simple tests your looking at about 10-12MB + mail volume on a stock config. You can make that a fair bit less by tweaking the heartbeat to a more reasonable 20-40 mins (knocks a few MB off, about 8MB + mail volume @ 40 min heartbeat).
deluxe said:
I am running exchange 2003 sp2, but currently do not have access outside the company .i.e. i have not nated it out. i have the website running internally so i presume i just need to nat the server to a public address.
I was trying to use activesync to set this up, and i am running the new rom.
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As I assume you don't have a private APN then without making the server public (via a firewall, ISA server or as a last result simple NAT) is the only way your going to make this work.
If you use SSL make sure the cert matches the public (internet) address of your server and that you have an approperate root cert installed on your device if you use an internal CA. You can use it over HTTP just fine but it's not secure in the least and I would not suggest it unless you had a private APN.
When you have the server exposed just get manual syncing over the air going from the device, then we can tackle DirectPush.
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deluxe said:
Does anyone have any info on what is required from Exchange to set this push mail up. i.e. HTTPS access from web, etc
Also i am on vodafone so what would my device address be? i.e. sms://<number> etc? do you need this? :?
Thanks.
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I asked Vodafone Spain and they told me this service is not available for Vodafone, I can't understand. I'm planning to move Telefonica because they have it running.
Daimaou said:
Do we have any idea on the impact on the Data bill regarding the Push ? (Of course it will depend on HOW MUCH spam you receive ) but just having the PUSH always on, will this effect our data bill ?
Cheers
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From the speed of receive the e-mail in the TS2 demo's I've seen, would you agree that Exchange is pushing the email before the filters can scrub it? I think this would be an area of huge improvement if MS would conduct the push later down in the process of receiving/delivering the e-mail.
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beginner said:
deluxe said:
Does anyone have any info on what is required from Exchange to set this push mail up. i.e. HTTPS access from web, etc
Also i am on vodafone so what would my device address be? i.e. sms://<number> etc? do you need this? :?
Thanks.
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I asked Vodafone Spain and they told me this service is not available for Vodafone, I can't understand. I'm planning to move Telefonica because they have it running.
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I dont really get the point here. I mean, Vodafone offers REAL MAIL, isnt it the same as Push mail?
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jmcl said:
beginner said:
deluxe said:
Does anyone have any info on what is required from Exchange to set this push mail up. i.e. HTTPS access from web, etc
Also i am on vodafone so what would my device address be? i.e. sms://<number> etc? do you need this? :?
Thanks.
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I asked Vodafone Spain and they told me this service is not available for Vodafone, I can't understand. I'm planning to move Telefonica because they have it running.
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I dont really get the point here. I mean, Vodafone offers REAL MAIL, isnt it the same as Push mail?
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jmcl: REAL MAIL is a service provided by vodafone supporting imap or pop3 mail, in the case you haven't a corporate exchange server or lotus. If you have some corporative mail server, with an exchange server, vodafone doesn't add value. In this case should be nice to have a mail address where you can receive sms, in other words, imagine a mail address that is connected directly to your sms inbox. There are other applications -for example verichat- that use this sms/mail address in order to send your device messages when you are not online.
does anyone have the setting for o2 in the uk?
Thanks
Paul
Push mail syncs every 10 minutes
I have a trial account with 4smartphone , push mail works great.
Although I adjusted syncing schedule from my JasJar to "As Items arrive" , it keeps syncing every 10 to 15 minutes!!
any ideas?
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simx said:
I have a trial account with 4smartphone , push mail works great.
Although I adjusted syncing schedule from my JasJar to "As Items arrive" , it keeps syncing every 10 to 15 minutes!!
any ideas?
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its not push mail unless its "As Items arrive", its just normal activesync checking,
also need the direct push enabled for it.
it does rock tho i have mine set to "As Items arrive" for peak and manual for offpeak, as im on the machine i use the account on in the evenings, so its basically now set for push mail in my working hours and manual when im at home,
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simx said:
I have a trial account with 4smartphone , push mail works great.
Although I adjusted syncing schedule from my JasJar to "As Items arrive" , it keeps syncing every 10 to 15 minutes!!
any ideas?
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I believe this is due to the heartbeat, mine seems to do the same thing....
thanks Carnivor,
but Im still confused, Direct push is enabled on my device (its yellow) and "as item arrives" is checked also, yet it keeps on syncying every 10 or 15 minutes!!
I thought it will only sync whenever I really have mail, if it keeps syncing every 10 minutes I will probably not use it because of the extreme high cost of GPRS
Sorry for the novice question but what is heartbeat!!
simx said:
Sorry for the novice question but what is heartbeat!!
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a heartbeat is something the exchange server sends to your phone to make sure its still connected and everything is ok, what you are seeing is not a sync its just letting you know when the last heartbeat saw recieved. I think if anyone knows different please let me know
ahh i see what you mean now, im sure i saw on the 4smartphone site that its 5mb/month data tarriff required, one could assume this is 24/7 heartbeat monitoring without the actual cost of transfering emails, that will be added ontop of the initial 5mb. its a theory
anybody have same problem??
it say's that is synchronized, but nothing on my device
somebody have solution?
don't want to sync with pc too. It syncronising, but
always on the same place, syncing......... but do nothing
thx
Push email
Works fine for me!! Try syncing via your PC's link to your exchange server first (i.e. connect your phone to active sync).
leobalou said:
Works fine for me!! Try syncing via your PC's link to your exchange server first (i.e. connect your phone to active sync).
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I just wrote, it cannot sync with PC too
Odd suggestion, but set the schedule to be at least every ten minutes, not shorter, and try again.
Does your server have weird ssl certs? (and if so have you installed them)
Are you entering the correct url for the server? (ie one you can access over the web)
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Does your server have weird ssl certs? (and if so have you installed them)
Are you entering the correct url for the server? (ie one you can access over the web)
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i'm sure its his exchange server or his servers ssl certs...not the rom.
Hi Guys,
I bought myself a HTC Desire last night but it wont authenticate with my Exchange 2007 server. I have many other handsets which use Windows Mobile and manage to connect to and sync fine via ActiveSync.
I have tried this via both HSDPA/3G connections and also WiFi within the office.
No joy
Can anyone offer any advice?
Exchange 2007 worked fine using 2.1 (Mail), and better using froyo (Mail+Appointments)
I just point to the corporate webmail server, using the correct domain/user/pass.
It is off course necessary for your IT dept. to allow this..
hmmr said:
I just point to the corporate webmail server, using the correct domain/user/pass.
It is off course necessary for your IT dept. to allow this..
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Hi hmmr,
I am definitely using correct credentials and server address etc. As for the IT Department, I am it
I'm thinking there's something I need to do on Exchange 2007 but not sure what.
Did you try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7593171&postcount=4 ?
I found the problem, it was user error. I was typing my password incorrectly. I will now sack myself
As much as I try I seem to be failing miserably. Tried by just opening Native email app and by going to home, settings, Accounts & Sync, Add Account, Exchange ActiveSync and am trying:
email & password, Next.
Domain left blank
username = email addy
password,
server = m.hotmail.com
both SSL boxes ticked,
but I keep getting:
Setup could not finish
Cannot connect to server.
Im going out of my mind now!
Actually a friend of mine was trying that with his Arc but no success.. seems working fine with POP3 for some reason ... wish I could help
I am having the same problem...
That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
ronniecross said:
That's interesting, has anybody actually had any success connecting to any exchange activesync server using the arc? I only have access to hotmail's exchange, but this works fine on touchdown, just not the native app...
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I'm connected to my University's exchange server (hosted on the Hotmail cloud) and it works fine. Make sure to use your full email address for your username.
I am also having the same problem. Strange.
Sent from my LT15i using XDA Premium App
Was able to set up hotmail at the first try.
as for Exchange, I don't know - because I don't use it.
I have just tweeted se. Will have to see what they come back with.
Just set up a hotmail account too. Works without a hitch.
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
I use enhanced email apply and exchange (push) and footprint set up fine.
Wish it had more ram or a way to permanently kill tasks until required.
Sent from my LT15i using XDA App
I'm using the default mail client to connect to my corporate exchange server via activesync. No problems at all. Exchange Server 2003 though. Don't have 2007 or higher to test on.
SE-Naz said:
I want to set hotmail up with PUSH email... not PULL(POP3) which way I can set it up...
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I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
Rashkae said:
I don't think Hotmail supports that. Unless you know of some plan where MS charges you money.
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It does. Microsoft started supporting it a little while ago. Only seems to work with mobile phones atm, ie android, apple etc. It doesnt seem to work with outlook without that hotmail connector.
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
Is that possible to sync Hotmail Calendar with Arc?
Gavilaaar said:
This is what I received back from SE earlier this morning.
'@Gavilaaar To set this up, you would need to contact Hotmail to obtain the correct server settings you require.'
Anyone wanna laugh with me???
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Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
FYI... A quick google search found many threads recommending "better mail client" (free on the market) for this task. Seems to work.
This too:
http://www.thesearethedroids.com/20...mail-mail-calendar-and-contacts-with-android/
Note the "\"
Rashkae said:
Why? They're right... It's not SE's job to set you up with Hotmail.
Did you look elsewhere online?
Microsoft adds Hotmail ActiveSync support for iPad, iPhone but not yet Android
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft...port-for-ipad-iphone-but-not-yet-android/7251
So AFAIK it's not yet officially supported by MS, but you can give it a shot.
My school email server runs on the hotmail cloud (I can access it via hotmail.com) and it works.
But basic hotmail doesn't.
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To be fair, I did have a major bounce around the web after I tweeted SE and found the same information as you.
What I was asking them was why hotmail wasn't working with the stock email client but working with others. And that was the reply.