Hi ppl,
i recently recieved a kit from Navigon, Navigon Mobile 4 with a BT GPS mouse.
I got the mouse bonded as a serial slave on com 5 & 6 and seems to be recognise by the software because i recieve at least the TMC messages.
but i got no GPS signal.
does anybody ever tryed this GPS on a qtek 9090 ?
is there a specific tool i need to install on my pda for the BT manager (options are quite poor in the BT manager)
any ideas ?
thks
Navigon needs VTG data from the GPS to work. If you have a GPS powered by a SIRF chipset it is easy : go to www.gpspassion.com and download a freeware to do the job.
i dont really know about the gps reciever furnished by navigon, there are no information about the hadware in the package, or user guide
If you have the Navigon GPS and not a non branded Navigon GPS, the issue is not the VTG...
i have the navigon BT GPS + TMC, the tmc works i recieve the signal in the software correctly, but i do not recieve any gps signal
i guess it comes from the com ports, but i really do not know how to solve that problem
i found the response, Qtek 9090 has a wildcomm BT modem so it requieres a patch available at the support page of navidon.de web site
Whether it is possible in Artemis to switch on TMC function? In it in fact is FM a tuner with RDS, and TMC the information is transferred through RDS.
For as far as I know, the P3300 does not have TMC. Unfortunately
You cannot use the inbuilt radio for TMC - it simply cannot perform this function, you can get TMC via GPRS and subscription to the service.
I did read some pre device release information that claimed the P3300 could do TMC via its internal radio, but I think the article was typical media hype (or more accuratly they didn't know what they were talking about).
The inbuilt radio will support RDS (which on the Arte gives basic channel names) - that is about the limit, if you want traffic information look at your options for GPRS connectivity and prices - Mike
RDS data IS accesible from applications - look at FM Radio application.
It means, that other application can access RDS data too - including TMC information.
Would you like to enlighten us how you get RDC TMC information from the in built Radio on the device? - Mike
What XCRIME means that similar Pdas with built in gps inc TMC works.
TMC (Traffic Message Channel) provides a anticipatory route optimization. TMC is a special application of the FM Radio Data System (RDS), constantly sending up-to-the-minute traffic information and weather data, that are being received by the TMC receiver. The navigation systems ( like Navigon MN5 )matches these data with your route within seconds. If there is congestion ahead, it automatically offers you an alternative route.( source the Navigon site)....
At the moment the Eten 500 & 500 with built in GPS & tmc module + supports tmc using the Destinator ot Route 66 navigation systems ( both support Royaltek–Protocol ) using the headphone as an antenna to recieve the tmc broadcasts.Only drawback is that you can only hear sound/ instructions via the head phone in this instance...
I expect that the Artemis will have an update to allow us to use this function.
Hello,
maybe it will work with one of those TMC adapters from GNS (e.g. GNS TrafficBox Universal maybe)?
GNS TMC adapter info
GNS TMC adapter shop
Anyone tried those?
Regards
Poseidon5150 said:
Hello,
maybe it will work with one of those TMC adapters from GNS (e.g. GNS TrafficBox Universal maybe)?
GNS TMC adapter info
GNS TMC adapter shop
Anyone tried those?
Regards
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Hi, and welcome...
The issue in this thread is how we can use the inbuilt FM RDS tuner on the P3300 to receive TMC, and use the information in for example Tomtom or some other navigation application.
Regards,
PK
paalkr said:
Hi, and welcome...
The issue in this thread is how we can use the inbuilt FM RDS tuner on the P3300 to receive TMC, and use the information in for example Tomtom or some other navigation application.
Regards,
PK
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Hi and thanks for the welcome. I understand the issue of this thread, I just thought it could be a workaround to get TMC to work until someone find a solution or a patch is released to use the internal radio for TMC.
I don't have one of those myself, just interested if someone already tested them with the Orbit/Artemis? Ok, maybe I will open a new thread on this later...
Regards
You can forget TMC in combination with TomTom. If I remember correctly TomTom uses it's own TMC network or something like that. In order to get the traffic information on your TomTom you need to use the service TomTom is offering, ofcourse they are going to let you pay for that service.
Mobile Navigator uses the normal TMC which comes with the standard RDS.
But for now it's not even possible to get that working. I personally doubt it will come availible, because if it would I think HTC had already mentioned it somehow.
TomTom use iTIS holdings for their traffic service, this information is broadcast over the Classic FM network within the UK (99.9 to 101.9FM - dependent upon location). Classic FM coverage isn't too good, low signal strength etc, couple that fact with the poor quality aerial supplied as part of the headphones with the Artemis and TMC (if it were possible) would simply never work IMHO - Mike
Isn´t there somebody with a P3300 who can contact HTC in order to ask whether RDS EON/TMC will come availible in the future?
@Bart1981: Why do you ask, if anybody could ask HTC?
Perhaps, YOU can ask?!
Realflo said:
@Bart1981: Why do you ask, if anybody could ask HTC?
Perhaps, YOU can ask?!
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Lol I tried but the mail returned to me with the awsner: Don't know what to do Seemed they missed some sort of number.
You can send an e-mail throughout the Support section, but then you need to fill in an IMEI number of your P3300, and guess what, I don't have a P3300
So that's the reason why I asked if somebody else could ask it for me. But if you have the right e-mail adres for me, I'll be happy to ask it for everybody on this forum
TMC on P3300 way to activate (worked with my Eten G500)
Hi,
The TMC function works with Route 66 Navigate 7 and some other soft.
If you really want TMC and don't want to pay for it, don't use tomtom, it's as simple as that, it's only a paid gprs connection.
Route 66 is as good as tomtom (only street selection is not so user friendly) and it has a free TMC function.
Just plug in the earphones (=tmc antenna built in!) otherwise it won't work. Scan the FM radio for the RDS posts and normally you get some texts after a while about traffic jams, accidents, .... interesting!
It worked with my Eten G500, still have to test it on the P3300, but this is the way of working. If it doesn't work, you probably need the newest firmware upgrade, found on the ftp of xda developpers.
If you don't want to use the earphones as antenna, you can get a 'wurfel' antenna on ebay from Germany, from 3.5mm jack to small antenna. I hope they are developping a carcharger with TMC antenna, like you can find allready on ebay from other brands like garmin, though it's expensive, about €70
Cheers,
Innovator
I use Route 66 on my unit but I have only ever obtained TMC via GPRS are you sure yours is actually using the radio? - try turning off the phone and see if it still receives data - Mike
Innovator said:
Hi,
If you don't want to use the earphones as antenna, you can get a 'wurfel' antenna on ebay from Germany, from 3.5mm jack to small antenna. I hope they are developping a carcharger with TMC antenna, like you can find allready on ebay from other brands like garmin, though it's expensive, about €70
Cheers,
Innovator
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Can you post a link for that antenna ? Cause i'm looking for something like that.
Thanx
Is anybody tried the tmc function?
TMC on Artemis/P3300
Any news on trying to get TMC on Artemis/P3300?
// Patrik
RoyalDemoTMC
i have come over this software from ETEN all work on my Artemis but not the TMC mabe some one can work it out to work
Dear all,
I'm looking for a plug-in, to bring the inbuild FM-radio working together with TomTom, so that I can use the free of charge TMC-signal from varios radiostations instead of the billable TT-TMC. I know, that the FM-radio works only with the headset as antenna, but therfor I have still got a solution.
Cheers!
Peter
You cannot do this it won't work - you can only GPRS traffic and a subscription to TomTom to get Traffic information - Mike
Is it originated in TomTom, so it will work with others like Destinator, or is the FM-Radio not able to prepare the TMC-signal.
Peter
No TMC support
HTC don't support TMC
Fm chip in p3300 works with RDS data, but there is no way take TMC data to any program
More info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291111
I'm awaiting my new Skoda Octavia Scout the next days, cause the Factory BT Handsfree from Cullmann was unable to get a stable connection to my Hero/ Artemis i cancelled it and plan to use a Funkwerk Dabendorf ego Flash.
But there will be a possibility to use TMC on an Hero/ Artemis to via an BT TMC reciever from gns soon (for the german speaking guys in here: http://www.pocketnavigation.de/news/view_1005/1.1.10.html) which i would like to use, too.
Edit: GNS TrafficBox FM9BT RDS TMC Receiver with Bluetooth
Optimizes TMC reception by connecting to the vehicle’s radio antenna
Designed for reception of digital traffic information via TMC
Allows dynamic navigation with suitable navigation software
Data transmission via Bluetooth
Alternatively with DIN / ISO or FAKRA plug
Power supply 3.3–14 V
So my question is: can the Artemis/ Hero (t-mobile branded) handle 2 BT connections at a time (Handsfree und TMC or TMC/GPS mouse?).
Thanks, Flocky
I currently have a Wizard and quite often have my BT GPS unit and my BT Headset connected and both work fine together, so I see no reason for the Artemis to be different, or at least I hope that is that case as I will be getting one next moth as I can't afford a Kaiser.
Hi guys, I have the following question:
I am planning to buy e bluetooth GPS receiver for my Prophet. In my car, however, I have a bluetooth hands-free system installed. So my question is, will it be possible to have both the GPS receiver and the hands-free system connected to my phone at the same time?
Thanx,
Boyan
Seriously, no one has tried this before? I suppose it should be working, but I really don't want to spend the money on a GPS receiver and not be able to use it simultaneously with my car kit...
hello there blazarov,
it will work, and yes many have already got this up and working.
Search for SIG or Piconet or simple Bluetooth on say Google
and it will get clear to you.
I have experienced i have to let Tom Tom activate bluetooth
and then my Rikaline GPS receiver and my Parrott carkit work.
In this order it goes well.
When bluetooth activated and connected to my Parrott carkit and then activating TomTom it can't find/connect to my Rikaline GPS receiver.
btw i use Qtek S200 ( = HTC Prophet)
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hello there blazarov,
it will work, and yes many have already got this up and working.
Search for SIG or Piconet or simple Bluetooth on say Google
and it will get clear to you.
I have experienced i have to let Tom Tom activate bluetooth
and then my Rikaline GPS receiver and my Parrott carkit work.
In this order it goes well.
When bluetooth activated and connected to my Parrott carkit and then activating TomTom it can't find/connect to my Rikaline GPS receiver.
btw i use Qtek S200 ( = HTC Prophet)
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Hi,
Thanx for the information! It is also good to know that the combo works with a Parrott carkit, as i have the same one in my car