Flash Size: 32 MB (?!) - my box and manual say 96 MB ROM - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hello, the forum! This is my first post, and I'm making it out of desperation. I have a time-sensitive problem, having just bought an O2 Xda IIs in Jakarta; if I need to complain to the shop that sold it to me, I'll have to do so very soon....
It's just that I'm confused over why the box and manual should read 96 MB ROM, when my "Device Information" screen tells me I've got a Flash Size of 32 MB. Please excuse my ignorance, but I'm completely new to this - it's my first ever PDA Phone.
I see that Blue Angel is also said to have 96 MB ROM here:
Code:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O2_xda
[edited for correction]
My specs are shown here. Please help me understand what the problem is. Thanks so much!
sub_rosa25
HardWare:
CPU : Intel(R) PXA263
Speed : 400 Mhz
RAM Size : 128 MB
Flash Size : 32 MB
Flash Chip : 28F128K3
Data Bus : 32 bits
Storage : 43.26 MB
LCD : 240X320 TFT
Colors : 65536

rom is 96 mb, you forget the extrom which is part of the rom and takes about 16 mb
simple math: extrom + flash + storage = rom
storage should be 48 mb but after installing the crap from extrom the rest is 43 in your case

Thank you for the quick and easy answer. It wasn't adding up for me because I didn't realize that extrom was included in the 96 MB ROM quoted. Cheers!

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Upgrade to WM2005

:? Dear All
Hope this message reaches you'll in good health and best of spirits.
I am new to this forum, so please help me.
After upgrading to WM2005 and after installing Hima DOC Tools v1.0, My O2 Xda II has become slow and my Storage Memory has decreased from 32.00 MB to 7.40 MB. When I install any program and / or put any Data in the Main Memory in place of Storage Card (SD Card), it reduces the Storage Memory, I thought the Program Memory usually reduces instead of Storage Memory.
Please clarify my doubts and if there is any procedure to increase the Storage Memory to 32.00 MB or default of 64 MB, please explain how to do it in simple manner, since I am just an end user, will not understand technical language.
The details of my o2 Xda II after upgrading to WM 2005 is :
VERSION
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ROM Version: 1.60b.96WWE
ROM date: 04/22/05
Radio Version: 1.18.00
Protocol Version: 1337.38
HARDWARE
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CPU: Intel(R) PXA263
Speed: 400 MHz.
RAM Size: 128 MB
Flash Size: 32 MB
Flash Chip Type: 28F128K3
Data Bus: 32 Bits
Storage Size: 30.53 MB
LCD: 240 x 320 TFT
Colors: 65536
IDENTITY
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Model No. PH10B
Platform: Pocket PC
I once again request you to help me.
Best Wishes
Dineshchand Nahar

Data connection problem after hard reset

Hi i currently using HTC Trinity p3600i(black) as my pda. I frequently search for useful software but that habit is causing me more problem because i'm a newbies and stil learning in this forum & PDA world.
My PDA won't connect when my 3G simcard voice & data provider(Maxis).
I downloaded anvanced configuration tools & Resco Explorer Spb Suite(comes in pack with encryptor). What happen is, I had to hard reset my device cos it has gone haywired & hanged ( using ctrl+alt+del 3button push ) last week.
After that, I can't connect to any data connection whatsoever & it keep saying "the remote party has ended this connection". But however unlikely, when i use another ISP simcard (Celcom ) it worked just fine. Please help & advise me what to do. I'm totally blurred.
-My current ROM & Device Information-
About-Windows Mobile R 6 Professional
CE OS 5.2.1437 ( BUILD 17944.0.3.1 )
Processor : SC32442B-500MHz
Memory : 49.22 MB
Device Info
ROM VERSION : 3.00.707.17
ROM DATE : 06/29/07
RADIO VERSION : 1.46.00.11
PROTOCOL VERSION : 32.79.7020.19H
CPU : SAMSUNG (R) 2442
SPEED : 500MHz
RAM : 64MB
FLASH : 256 MB
DATA BUS : 32 BITS
STORAGE SIZE : 179.14MB
DISPLAY : 240 X 320
COLORS : 65536
TO ALL THE SIFU HERE, PLEASE HELP ME. PLS

How to check workability of TSOP2 RAM?

Part numbers told me i have 2x64 MB of RAM but there is only 64 of them available to the system.
How can I check on which chip do this 64 MB reside?

[REF] Investigation Into PIT Files

There is very little technical information on PIT files , so this thread is an attempt to find out some real details about PIT files, and perhaps eventually be able to create our own PIT files (by modifying Samsung ones, probably).
First, what we think we know PIT files do:
- PIT files only affect the 'STL' devices. That is, it affects the OneNAND and not the MoviNAND.
- PIT files appear to control the sizing (and maybe number) of STL devices that appear in Linux.
- PIT files appear to be used by Odin to map filenames inside .tar archives to STL partitions.
STL files are quite small, at under 2KB in size. Most of the file is made up of 0s. I have tried to compare the differences between the 512 513 and 803 PIT files we have available.
All the PIT files start with 76 98 34 12 0D - probably a signature to show it is a PIT file.
[Unimportant]
The 803 PIT file then has 00s all the way to the next common point. The 512 and 513 both have common data till the next common point - but this can't be too important as the 803 just has 00s.
The next common bit seems to read the following:
"oft IBL+PBL Server\90\To boot.bin inn; C:\Program Files\ESTsof
This probably indicates something to Odin. Strange that it has C:\Program Files\ - build path for the PIT file?
Next we have some 0s with common 1s inside them, followed by the word PIT, then more 0s, and then ries.pit. All common from here on with the words 'EFS' and 'efs.rfs'. Probably telling odin to map the efs.rfs file to the 'EFS' token. Tokens probably defined either in the kernel, or in the closed source STL library. More of the same of this, with 'SBL' 'sbl.bin', 'SBL2' 'sbl.bin' -- Both SBL and SBL2 map to the same sbl.bin file?
'PARAM' to 'param.lfs'
'KERNEL' to 'zImage'
'RECOVERY' to 'zImage' (this one is interesting - could we have seperate zImage and recovery? Could save some RAM here!)
[/Unimportant]
And now we'r onto the actual changes between the PIT files. 'FACTORYFS' maps to 'factoryfs.rfs'. However, before the FACTORYFS token, there are some bytes that likely control the partition sizes.
FACTORYFS
803 : A2 04 : 41476
512 : 7A 04 : 31236
513 : CA 04 : 51716
DBDATA
803 : F0 01 : 61441
512 : 18 02 : 6146
513 : C8 01 : 51201
CACHE
803 : 8C
512 : 8C
513 : 8C
MODEM
803 : 32
512 : 32
513 : 32
So there we have it. The only real changes between the PIT files are some seemingly garbage header information in 512/513 that is missing from 803, and FACTORYFS and DBDATA have different numbers -- probably sizes.
So assuming FACTORYFS maps onto /system, we can see that the only differences in the PIT files is moving space back and forwards between /dbdata and /system. The numbers themselves don't mean anything to me - can anybody work it out?
The numbers are little-endian, so you need to read them backwards per bytes. So instead of A12 it's actually 120A, etc. If you do so, you can see that the difference between 803 and 512 are actually minor, 40 "units" are shifted between probably DBDATA and SYSTEM.
Btw: doesn't the heimdal project klnow something about the pit files?
Nice, that gives us
FACTORYFS
803 : 04 A2 : 1186
512 : 04 7A : 1146
513 : 04 CA : 1226
DBDATA
803 : 01 F0 : 496
512 : 02 18 : 536
513 : 01 C8 : 456
1186+496=1682
1146+536=1682
1226+456=1682
So we have a match.
Now to work out why the fat.format can work with 536, but not with 496
EDIT: Also, need to determine why some roms require certain PIT files. Only possibility I can see is that junk in the header - could be some type of allow list for firmwares. The 803 PIT should therefore work on all firmwares, since it just has 00s. Maybe.
In 803.pit (compared to the .512 one) the system partition size has been increased by 10MB, while DBDATA partition size has been decreased the same amount (10MB).
PS: Dump the BML2 partition. The dump contains current partition mapping.
Hope this helps
RyanZA said:
Nice, that gives us
FACTORYFS
803 : 04 A2 : 1186
512 : 04 7A : 1146
513 : 04 CA : 1226
DBDATA
803 : 01 F0 : 496
512 : 02 18 : 536
513 : 01 C8 : 456
1186+496=1682
1146+536=1682
1226+456=1682
So we have a match.
Now to work out why the fat.format can work with 536, but not with 496
EDIT: Also, need to determine why some roms require certain PIT files. Only possibility I can see is that junk in the header - could be some type of allow list for firmwares. The 803 PIT should therefore work on all firmwares, since it just has 00s. Maybe.
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I think the main cause is that some firmwares simply don't fit in the space reserved for them. Some of the m have larger system, some of them have larger dbdata partitions. Only a guess though, I think I start flashing pit files just for fun...
RazvanG said:
In 803.pit (compared to the .512 one) the system partition size has been increased by 10MB, while DBDATA partition size has been decreased the same amount (10MB).
Hope this helps
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10MB = 40 units... That would give us 1 unit = 256kbyte. Nice.
So this means:
BOOT (bml01) = 01 = 1 = 0.25 MB (bootloader)
PIT (bml02) = 01 = 1 = 0,25 MB (the partition table)
EFS (bml03) = 28 = 40 = 10 MB (imei data and such)
SBL (bml04) = 05 = 5 = 1,25 MB (secondary bootloader)
SBL2 (bml05) = 05 = 5 = 1,25 MB (secondary bootloader backup)
PARAM (bml06) = 14 = 20 = 5 MB (the images shown when something is wrong)
KERNEL (bml07) = 1E = 30 = 7,5 MB (kernel image)
RECOVERY (bml08) = 1E = 30 = 7,5 MB (kernel image backup)
FACTORYFS (bml09) = 47A = 1146 = 286,5 MB (/system)
DBDATA (bml10) = 218 = 536 = 134 MB (/dbdata)
CACHE (bml11) = 8C = 140 = 35 MB (/cache)
MODEM (bml12) = 32 = 50 = 12,5 MB (software for wireless)
total: 501 MB
sztupy said:
I think the main cause is that some firmwares simply don't fit in the space reserved for them. Some of the m have larger system, some of them have larger dbdata partitions. Only a guess though, I think I start flashing pit files just for fun...
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Not sure how true this can be -- Take 512 vs 513 for example. Newer Eclair roms stopped working on 513, and required 512. However, 513 has a smaller dbdata and larger system than 512. Since we know that a clean rom when flashed has a /dbdata of around 2mb, or 1% or so of available space, it can't be space related.
Must be more to than simple space allocations.
EDIT: And 501MB means we have space left over. Where is it hiding?
RyanZA said:
Not sure how true this can be -- Take 512 vs 513 for example. Newer Eclair roms stopped working on 513, and required 512. However, 513 has a smaller dbdata and larger system than 512. Since we know that a clean rom when flashed has a /dbdata of around 2mb, or 1% or so of available space, it can't be space related.
Must be more to than simple space allocations.
EDIT: And 501MB means we have space left over. Where is it hiding?
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Yes, but the flashed dbdata.rfs was probably actually a large partition, that didn't fit into the allocated space.
Yes, the missing 11MB is strange, unless there is a 1MB "safety" gap between two partition (12 partitions = 11 gaps), or some other data.
EDIT: No, dumped BML0, it's only 501MB in length. The missing part might still be some space needed for the BML and STL to work.
Hi. I'm sorry for hijacking this thread but I need professional help from some geniuses (genii) and apparently you guys are firmware gurus.
Once you guys figure out how PIT files work, can you please help me figure out how to force flash Korean firmware onto an international phone without bricking it? The reason why I would like to do this, is because the Korean version has some really nice features for example native call recording (3rd party call recorders have bad quality). I made a thread for it here
Thanks a lot, köszönöm szépen!
Galaxy S I9000 PIT structure:
512.pit
PBL: 256KB (Primitive Bootloader)
PIT: 256KB
EFS: 10240KB (Non Volatile Memory)
SBL(1): 1280KB (Primary)
SBL(2): 1280KB (Backup)
PARAM: 5120KB
KERNEL(1): 7680KB (Primary)
KERNEL(2): 7680KB (Backup)
FACTORYFS: 293376KB
DBDATAFS: 137216KB
CACHE: 35840KB
MODEM: 12800KB
Total: 513024KB
513.pit
PBL: 256KB
PIT: 256KB
EFS: 10240KB
SBL(1): 1280KB
SBL(2): 1280KB
PARAM: 5120KB
KERNEL(1): 7680KB
KERNEL(2): 7680KB
FACTORYFS: 313856KB
DBDATAFS: 116736KB
CACHE: 35840KB
MODEM: 12800KB
Total: 513024KB
803.pit
PBL: 256KB
PIT: 256KB
EFS: 10240KB
SBL(1): 1280KB
SBL(2): 1280KB
PARAM: 5120KB
KERNEL(1): 7680KB
KERNEL(2): 7680KB
FACTORYFS: 303616KB
DBDATAFS: 126976KB
CACHE: 35840KB
MODEM: 12800KB
Total: 513024KB
In case there is backup blocks (e.g SBL and Kernel, Odin flashes them both while executing the flashing process).
dillovic said:
Hi. I'm sorry for hijacking this thread but I need professional help from some geniuses (genii) and apparently you guys are firmware gurus.
Once you guys figure out how PIT files work, can you please help me figure out how to force flash Korean firmware onto an international phone without bricking it? The reason why I would like to do this, is because the Korean version has some really nice features for example native call recording (3rd party call recorders have bad quality). I made a thread for it here
Thanks a lot, köszönöm szépen!
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Galaxy S M110S is completely different hardware.
All other I9000 variants use Infineon X-Gold 616 baseband (Modem), while M110S uses Qualcomm baseband chip.
Made a try modifying the PIT file, to add more space to /dbdata and take away space from /system. I added around 25MB extra space to /dbdata.
Wasn't that hard actually, and I didn't encounter many problems (except the fact that the values are for the bare bml device, from which the stl has an extra 4-10% overhead so instead of the originally planed 35MB I could only spare 25).
If anyone's interested I can upload the modified pit and rom files.
Some remarks / questions:
- If we use the bare BML device instead of the STL I know we lose wear leveling (at least according to the rfs docs from samsung), but can't we use yaffs or similar on those devices? Or what if we (can we?) use cramfs for the /system on the BML, to gain even more space we could use for the /dbdata partition?
- The overhead the STL has seems a bit random to me. /system and /dbdata has a 4% overhead, while /cache a 10% one.
I'd be careful about resizing the partitions manually. Samsung should have aligned the partitions for best performance.
I'm not sure if its a placebo, but PIT 512 seems faster to me than PIT 803.
hardcore said:
I'd be careful about resizing the partitions manually. Samsung should have aligned the partitions for best performance.
I'm not sure if its a placebo, but PIT 512 seems faster to me than PIT 803.
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Aligning should not be terribly hard -- we already specify using 256kb pieces instead of raw bytes. The alignment therefore is somewhere between 256kb and 4mb. If we align for 4mb, we align for everything smaller too. So as long as the numbers used are cleanly divisible by 4*4=16, it will be correctly aligned.
Flashing a PIT file with repartition checked seems to (according to docs) reset the wear leveling (the current record of what was written where, I guess), so you should not tick repartition if you are flashing many times in a row. (Many times is probably some very big number.)
I can't see why we couldn't use YAFFS or similar filesystem. Might work really well. I've got no experience setting up YAFFS though, and I don't believe it is trivial.
RyanZA said:
Aligning should not be terribly hard -- we already specify using 256kb pieces instead of raw bytes. The alignment therefore is somewhere between 256kb and 4mb. If we align for 4mb, we align for everything smaller too. So as long as the numbers used are cleanly divisible by 4*4=16, it will be correctly aligned.
Flashing a PIT file with repartition checked seems to (according to docs) reset the wear leveling (the current record of what was written where, I guess), so you should not tick repartition if you are flashing many times in a row. (Many times is probably some very big number.)
I can't see why we couldn't use YAFFS or similar filesystem. Might work really well. I've got no experience setting up YAFFS though, and I don't believe it is trivial.
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I wonder if it is possible to make very small /system partition, and move it to mmcblk0 - since it is read only, performance will be ok. And make large dbdata partition, and keep /data/data there. That may be the ultimate lag fix
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vitalij said:
I wonder if it is possible to make very small /system partition, and move it to mmcblk0 - since it is read only, performance will be ok. And make large dbdata partition, and keep /data/data there. That may be the ultimate lag fix
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It is possible, but how would you flash a firmware then?
We are quickly approaching the 'throw it all away, and start from scratch with our own tools and bootloader.
RyanZA said:
It is possible, but how would you flash a firmware then?
We are quickly approaching the 'throw it all away, and start from scratch with our own tools and bootloader.
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So are u guys planning to release the new galaxy s series phone??
You should rename it to galaxy-xda
So, from the info you have gathered, is there any point in using a PIT file when repartition is not checked?
huxflux2003 said:
So, from the info you have gathered, is there any point in using a PIT file when repartition is not checked?
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I don't really see much point, but than again PIT file will tell odin (if your flashing pda) explicitly where the kernel should be flashed.
Also, I noticed that kernel partition is only 7.5-6 mb. Doest it mean that we cant use larger kernels (cos I think voodoo might me larger - hence the screen tear on boot).

RAM & ROM Size

I have a GT-N7100 2GB RAM, 16GB ROM (Internal Memory).
Why do info apps show:
- RAM Total: 1.7GB
- ROM Total: 10.3GB
If I recall the ROM value is: 16GB - system software = 10.3GB available to user.
What is with the RAM tho?

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