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Am I the only one having Keyboard problems with WM2005?

On messages especially sometimes if I type too fast (and I can type very fast ) it misses out letters or just pauses for ages.
Most of the time the first letter I type in a message gets repeated. Sometimes it just decides to repeat one letter as if the key was stuck down.
On top of this messaging and any application where the device is trying to bring up a user input component is SLOW.
Ive not seen these problems mentioned anywhere yet. Is it just me?
Lewis

No, I've got the same problem. But I don't use that keyboard all that much. The main point for me was to get a phone/PDA with WLAN built in, something I believe the 9090 was first with.

same here, it's very annoying..
with the mms app this doesn't happen, input is as fast as in 2003..

Yeah, it is a bit laggy, still acceptable for me.

isn't it possible to somehow replace the messaging module? i use the keyboard very often and this can get really annoying..

I cannot speak for everyone, but I have found a solution that works.
Apparently, the Messaging applet is not getting enough clock cycles to properly process the keyboard input.
For me, simply closing Internet Explorer does the trick. (go into Memory, and make sure it's not listed in Running Programs) Try it now.
If it still occurs, soft reset the phone, and then attempt to use Messaging. Does the problem still occur? Probably not.
Let me know if this solves the issue. I will look more into it when I get the free time.

I found the keyboard horribly slow. That's straight after resets of all kinds and definately no IE.

I have the repeating problem at times, and I never run IE or any other programs at the same time minimized. I use PocketPlus, so programs aren't minimized, they are closed.

that's no good for me, still slow..
just installed rom 1.60c in my gf's qtek 2020 and it's fast as hell! messaging too..dont understand this strange behavior on the BA..

About the keyboard repeating, you can reduce the repeat rate at the keyboard settings..

Keyboard Issue
Has anyone actually solved the problem with the messaging program?
I downgraded back to WM2003 SE because message writing was such a pain. I would like to have WM5 but if and when someone can correct the messaging application.
Any news?
Thanks
Lewis

updated my Blue Angel to WM5 today and found no problem with typing. TheGadgetGuy's probably right about the memory.

I used to have the problem if I would type to fast it would repeat a lot, example "test" would be "testtttttttttttttttttttttt", I found a way to fix it:
A lot of people have been complaining with the same problems with the thumbboard in WM2005, well I found a way to fix it. As you know if you type really fast like a lot of us do with the thumbboard it will repeat and get stuck on a letter, example "fix" turns into "fixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" then you have to backspace it all. Well let's just cut to the chase, the way to fix it is goto your Start > Settings > System > Keyboard > and goto Repeat Settings, and turn them all the way off (To the left). Tah dah, enjoy .
^The text above is copied from Zevink.com

Had all sorts of problems with WM5, one of the most annoying was this keyboard lag... I type a lot of SMS with it so this made the device unuseable for me.
Happily went back to 2003SE

The blue angel is the biggest pyle htc ever released. That is what is wrong with the ba.

Thanks for that Mikee4fun ... not quite so helpful ...
The only hardware issue I can see with the Blue Angel is with the Radio (Both Bluetooth and WiFi) in that they both seem to be poor in range and BT unstable. That said, BT in particular, may still be a software issue as under WM5 it seems a whole lot more reliable ...
To say the BA is a Pyle (Pile?) based on the fact that an internal thrown together version of WM5 (Trust me, this is the case if you do a bit of Hex editing on a decrypted nbf file and see all the temporary bootloader code which has references to ALL HTC devices by codename) is lacking in areas is not really a solid deduction. From what I have seen of this version of WM5 which has arguably been created in weeks rather than months like version 2003SE, I would say that it is on the whole a very impressive software and hardware solution.
I only hope HTC take the decision to officially update the BA to WM5 in order to fully eliminate all the software bugs in WM2003SE as even the current version of WM5 seems to me a whole lot better than even the latest patched WM2003SE version.
I cannot see it would take them a great deal more engineering time to correct the few issues that remain such as speed tweaks and the odd driver / software update to release a very impressive WM5 version. As Maimach has already proven a number of issues were quite simple to fix (Well, for someone as clever as Mamaich anyway!!!) ...

I had poor keyboard performance (lag) - made me downgrade

Bebbo, I'm afraid that won't happen because of the wish to make people buy new hardware instead of upgrading the stuff they already have. Remember that the biggest selling point of the Wizard and Universal is the WM5. So can HTC create a good WM5? Of course! Will their customers (not us, the providers, Dangaard and Brightpoint) allow them to? Probably not.

Well about the only thing that worked on WM5 was bluetooth...
I get the damned memory error on WM2003SE.... :x

How annoying. I think I'm going back to WM2003se. WM5 isn't that great. It behaves alot like WM2003fe except buggy :S It's not worth all the hastle just for on screen soft keys.

Unsolved problems with WM 5 for SX66

Can some one summarize the unsolved / pending problems with WM5 upgrade on SX66 Cingular version?

No reply recd so far shows that no one has clear picture of whats working and whats not working.. so sad ... or people dont find time to compile the list.
I wanted this list to be prepared so that one decides when to switch over to WM 5.
Any feedback?

This is why people browse the forums. Kinda unfair to ask someone to compile a bunch of items for you when all you have to do is read. I agree it would be nice but still unfair.
I have an idea, read the forums, make your list, and post it for the rest of people who may come to this site.
Point is, there is no set list. It varies by device and by user and is dependant upon a number of factors....

I have no experience on implementing WM5 on SX66 and thus as asked by you can not work on the list of pending problems and publish to others.
I am not that enterprising that I jump into the update without caring what will happen to my device.
To me it looks that only few problems are pending and rests have been already resolved.

Not to be argumentative...
This is a developer's site... research, test, provide feedback on the results... basically try to contribute to the community.
If you're not enterprising enough to help with testing, maybe you should put together a list based on the main "resolved WM5" thread, and possibly maintain. People would be more inclined to provide feedback...
If you want a stable code for your SX66, use the 1.40c rom which is pretty baked. If you want WM5, it will definitely require a little beta-tester bleeding.
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I have WM5 on my sx66. I am having no problems except for the ones that everyone is having on all the phones.....
1. Bluetooth disconnecting after so long.
2. Bluetooth disconnection after pressing power button.
3. "G" in today bar always showing even with no connection. (Did not happen in 2003se)
That's it.

Biggest problem unsolved problem for me is the wmodem application to use the phone as a modem connection for a pc.

rschell and jsosow : Thank you very much for such a positive reply.

As for the abovementioned 'G' icon in the top bar there is a registry change / cab file that can remove that annoyance.
I don't have bluetooth disconnection problems so much as when I hit the power button to put the device in standby (and really stretch out the battery) it turns bluetooth off. I've just made it a habit of re-setting my PZP standard profile when I turn it back on and need to make a phone call. Annoying yes, dealbreaker no.
Performance is a little wonky at times. I have the 530mhz overclock.cab developed here, and while it is good, sometimes it can choke a little. You have to turn off some of the sound effects to get it running at a decent speed.
Hopefully there is another WM5 'leak' we can use to get this puppy up to production quality, as of right now its very close!

Where is the "G" fix? I seemed to have missed it.

BT problem fix
BT fix for WM5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31779
The only other problem is, e-mail accounts are deleted if you remove the battery.

Total beginner, advice needed

Hi all.
Just found this forum completly by accident, but damn, I'm glad I did!
However, there is such a wealth of inofrmation on here, I'm finding it tricky to filter out what I need at my level, so I thought I'd ask a couple of questions.
I have an Orange SPV M5000 that I have done nothing to except install some apps on it. I know there are rom upgrades available, including an official one from Orange. What is the best one to go for, and what exactly does it change? I've seen some posts regarding speeding up the speed in which the screen can rotate, but not noticed any posts on the speed of answering, which does seem slow on my M5000, especially if it's closed as I have to wait for the screen to come on, then rotate, and finally bring up the phone app before I can talk, will it help this?
What does the radio upgrade do? Is it a valuable upgrade or just a slight performance increase?
If I do any rom upgrades, will I need to do a complete re-install and setup from scratch?
What other things should I consider doing to generally increase the whole smartphone thing?
Thanks in advance for any help, there seems to be loads of people on here that have some valuable knowledge!
Squeaker

Info to find info about your device.
ooooh dude, you got a lot to learn....
I will try to answer your questions.
I have done nothing to except install some apps on it.
THIS IS GONNA CHANGE, THE MORE YOU HOLD IT, THE MORE YOU INSTALL, THE MORE YOU INSTALL THE MORE YOU REALISE YOU DIDNT REALLY NEED IT.
I know there are rom upgrades available
THEY ALL HAVE AN UPGRADE RELEASED NOW.
What is the best one to go for
I THINK IMATE OR O2 ARE GENERALLY ACCEPTED. I USE IMATE. IF YOU CHANGE FROM ORANGE, YOU WILL BREACH YOUR WARRANTY.
what exactly does it change?
IT SHOULD SPEED UP THE ENTIRE OPERATION OF THE DEVICE, SPEED UP THE ANSWERING OF THE PHONE, AND SPEED UP THE SCREEN THE ROTATION, IN FACT, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FASTER, SMOOTHER AND MORE EFFICIENT.
THE RELEASE ACTUALLY PROVIDES PUSH EMAIL, SUCH THAT YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF YOUR EMAIL PUSHED/SENT TO YOUR DEVICE, RATHER THAN HAVING TO PRESS SEND/RECEIVE TO PULL THE EMAIL TO YOUR DEVICE.
BATTERY, BLUETOOTH AND RECEPTION RANGE IS ALSO BETTER.
speed of answering,
IT WILL SPEED UP YOUR ANSWERING, BUT THE BEST WAY IS TO DISABLE THE PHONE PAD THAT USES THE VIDEO CALLING FUNCTION, IF YOU DONT USE IT, DO A SEARCH AND CHANGE THE REGISTRY TO DISABLE THE PHONE PAD THAT USES VIDEO CALLS. IF YOU DO USE THE PHONE VIDEO CALL FEATURE, THEN THERE ISNT MUCH YOU CAN DO.
which does seem slow on my M5000, especially if it's closed as I have to wait for the screen to come on, then rotate, and finally bring up the phone app before I can talk, will it help this?
NOT IF YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE SO MANY STEPS, WHY DONT YOU JUST PRESS THE GREEN BUTTON ON THE HINGE WITHOUT OPENING THE DEVICE. OR ARE YOU CALL SCREENER? I ANSWER ALL MINE IF I CAN, SO I DONT NEED TO SEE WHO IS CALLING.
OTHER OPTION, LEAVE IT OPEN ALL THE TIME, AND DONT CLAM CLOSE IT.
ALSO, EXTEND THE PERIOD OF YOUR RINGING, SO THAT INSTEAD OF 10 SECONDS, EXTEND IT TO 30 SECONDS, IT WILL GIVE YOU MORE TIME TO ANSWER IT.
What does the radio upgrade do? Is it a valuable upgrade or just a slight performance increase?
IT IMPROVES RECEPTION, RANGE, QUALITY, AND SPEED OF ANSWERING. THE NEW ROM HAS THIS UPGRADE ANYWAY.
If I do any rom upgrades, will I need to do a complete re-install and setup from scratch?
YES, EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY WIPED OUT, SO SYNC YOUR DATA, COPY EVERYTHING TO AN SD CARD, AND NUKE IT TO START AGAIN.
What other things should I consider doing to generally increase the whole smartphone thing?
READ THE FORUMS, MONITOR THE POSTS, LURK AROUND FOR A WHILE. READ THESE POSTS:
get some of these:
www.spbsoftwarehouse.com particularly the backup
www.resco.net particularly the explorer
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41968&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32698&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28343&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28127&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=28022&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29677&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31331&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31911&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30460&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32262&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=34838&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37067&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38253&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38192&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=218089&highlight=#218089
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39961&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41452&highlight=
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44638&highlight=
This should give you enough reading, enough background knowledge, enough to be dangerous, but not enough for life to collapse around you.
If you need any more information in relation to your questions, ask.

Thanks loads for this, it's just the kind of response I was after!
I shall wade throught the links you've provided shortly, and I shall take the plunge with the rom upgrade soon too.
Thanks again for taking the time to answer everything, I shall lurk with renewed vigor.

Hi,
Recently purchased my M5000 and found the wealth of information in this thread very helpful.
Thanks!!
Matt

glad to help, i believe in the boomerang model, hope you guys do to.

BTTT
Just bought an MDA Pro so wanted to find this post easily again

So we can bring on WM6 - but why?

Hi all
I just got myself sent a Hermes the other day and I was looking around here, my favourite XDA resource, for nifty things I could do with it. One thing that seems to be all the rage is upgrading to WM6. Now, I'm all in favour of upgrading and the amount of information and material here is, well, staggering. Overwhelming even. But, for all I read, I miss one critical thing: why do we upgrade to WM6? What does it give us that WM5 doesn't?
All I see, at the moment, is a swankier interface and a faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed? I guess I'm looking for an excuse to do this
Lastly, as I mentioned, there's almost too much information about all this. i can follow the guides and tools for installation but one thing will vex me if I was to upgrade - and that's which ROM to use. Now I'm certain every one of you has a favourite and so I'm not looking for a definitive recommendation, but what the hot ones that I should look into at the moment? As I see it, the "XDA Live" and "Black" see pretty popular..
Cheers!

Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.

wywywywy said:
Three reasons for me.
1. TomTom doesn't occassionally freeze
2. Easier to set as a modem
3. More responsive menus, button presses, etc
By the way WM6 is more like WM5 second edition rather than a brand new system.
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Pretty much says it all. I never soft reset anymore. More memory, faster than WM5, better tweaks, and has some things WM5 didn't cooked in to the ROM. As for the risk of bricking, that's an extremely low risk, very minimal actually, if you follow the guide and wiki.

and html email is not to be sneezed at.

Because we can!

Mobile Office 2k7 can read o2k7 native formats. You will never see this on WM5 unless some imgfs God with a lot of time on his/her hands ports it there....
Native SD card encryption is Huge. The A2DP stack is a thing of wonder too....

JasenR said:
Because we can!
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exactly!!!!!!!!

My softbank x01ht came with WM5 and the only upgrade I did was the radio upgrade to 1.40.
May be it is my luck, but my x01ht seems really stable in its original ROM version (WM5 aku 2), I have never hard reset and the machine seems really stable. So my need to upgrade to WM6 to avoid system hang is not really existing.
Also, I use a lot of BUILT-IN functions such as Push Email, Wifi and Chinese support (my x01ht was flashed with a Hong Kong version 838 pro ROM before sold to me). If ANY one of such functions is WORSE in WM6 than in WM5, than WM6 is a no no for me. I can't stand any frequent freeze of the x01ht because I now depend solely on it for my daily phone/PIM use. If I don't have it working 100% normal, then I will lose many important phone calls.

I see WM6 really as an evolution of WM5. In WM6, MS has fixed many bugs that were in WM5, for example:
- Crappy A2DP
- WiFi now supports WPA
- HTML email
- Faster and more stable
- I'm sure MS has updated little things here and there to make WM6 more telco-standards (GSM, etc.) compliant

Well, are you still using Windows 95 on your PC?
My reasons for upgrading have been for (in order of importance) the speed, bug fixes, better memory management, the X button actually closing the app not just minimising it, Office updates, better compatibility and usability in the new Internet Explorer, etc.
When I bought my TyTN I was shocked by how slowly it responded to user input compared to previous Pocket PCs I'd owned.
After the developments that started occurring here a few months ago, there really was no turning back. I upgraded and now the OS is quick and very responsive. WM6 has been a godsend. The phone application also doesn't take 3-4 seconds to load when I press the call button to answer a call like it used to!
WM6 also has a much more polished look to it I think.

hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb

I did it simply because WM5 was a little unstable and I love experimenting / playing with stuff like this.
A side benefit which I didn't know I would get is the LVSW version that I installed allows WPA2 & WPA2-PSK authentication on the Wi-Fi. That meant I could run my Hermes at the same security as my network and didn't have to modify my wireless router and other PCs.
There's probably still a few other good reasons that haven't been mentioned in this thread yet.
Cheers, Oggy.

Bug fixing, more speed,...
With WM5 I had issues like the phone applicatoin reacted too slowy on an incomming call. so i missed the call. Or sometimes it even didn't ring.
WM6 works in that point.

bingobob said:
hold on, TomTom still freezes on mine with WM6 !
I still love it though (tomtom that is and wm6)
Let me know if this is solved will ya ?
ta
bb
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Did you install TomTom 6.03??? As of that version I never had freezes anymore...

I to have tomtom lockup and sloooooowwwww to get map directions. Please I miss my fast tomtom 6. I am using 6.03. I wonder if i did something wrong. I never had this problem with wm5.

What about support?
One benefit of wm6 is that the hackers, tweakers, rom cookers, and random slackers such as myself keep this hermes wm6 forum active (albeit sometimes unforgiving to newcomers). If you have a question about wm6 on a hermes, it is probably already answered here. Can as much be said for the wm5 forums?

Just works
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.

F*SH said:
... faster operation. But neither of those are big sellers in themselves and don't justify the bricking and incompatibility risks. So, what's the big appeal that I've missed?
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I don't think anyone with half a brain has bricked their phone doing an OS only upgrade (especially if they read the wiki etc etc)... and you answered your own question... who doesnt want a faster device?

LazPL said:
Personally I was about to ditch my TyTN. The default OS was infuriatingly slow, buggy, and had me resetting several times per day. If I hadn't stumbled upon XDA-develoopers and started flashing WM6, I would probably be a Nokia user again... WM6 just works. I've flashed maybe 10 different versions now, also the radio, and it's completely worth it. No big risk of bricking if you do your homework first.
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I feel the same way as LazPL in that I was about to stop using the phone.
What I hated most about WM5 was a lack of real integration between the phone and contacts funtions, eg.:
. If you chose a call from the recent call list you could not access the contact directly (eg. if you just tried calling someone on their fixed line and wanted to try their mobile, you could not just click on the recent call you just made and select a different type of number, you had to select the name again from the list). In WM6 you can do this
. If you saved an unknown number from your recent call list it would automatically create a new contact, instead of giving you the option to save it in an existing contact (and choosing what type of number it was) or creating a new contact. In WM6 you can.
For me these 2 were just basic everyday usability features that I can find in the cheapest phones, and totally unacceptable to be missing in a €600 device. On the basis of these 2 alone, upgrading to WM6 was worth it.
In addition, my original Orange ROM had some bugs that were just pathetic (although these could have been cured with a newer ROM, or perhaps were due to the original radio ROM - which I also upgraded - and not the OS):
. Calls to busy numbers started blaring the busy tone through the loudspeaker (very loud)
. Trying to answer a call waiting would freeze the phone and require a soft reset
Hope that helps.

Pastings WIFI keys!!!
I've not been able to paste a wifi key in my WM05 ROM somone told me it was security...
rubish i think M$ to implement the copy/paste code.
Modem -> Bluetooth PAN is HUGELY more stable, my connection used to drop all the time in modem mode, i can now sit for 2 hours on my laptop at coffee shops and surf the web, whithout paying silly 1 day WIFI pass prices!

Bluetooth issue with wm 6.5 and sense 2.5

Ok here's my problem:
I make custom dutch roms for the Rhodium (touch pro 2).
I use the latest XIP/SYS builds (28009 at this moment) and I use manila/sense 2.5
(Almost) everything works great!
I also own a pioneer car-entertainment set (avic f900bt) which has a built in parrot bluetooth carkit.
Pairing goes perfect and I can transfer my phonebook and make calls.
The problem is that when I recieve a call and try to hang up the system hangs and needs a reset. My TP2 also hangs for a while after such an event and then after minutes goes back to the today screen.
At first I thought it was my carkit, but my wife's samsung and my brother in law's blackberry work fine.
Then I tried my own phone with the latest OFFICIAL 6.5 rom (dutch) and it worked great.
So I started to trial and error with different adjusted roms. I got it all working with the newest XIP/SYS builds. But the problem seems to lie somewhere in manila 2.5. I even got it working in manila 2.1 without any bugs
But with 2.5 I get the problems above. And I forgot to mention another bug:
- When I make a call or recieve a call I do not see a 'red phone' button to hang up which I do see with other phone's or roms without manila 2.5. So I have to end a call on my HTC instead of my carkit. And when I try after recieving a call it hangs as described above.
After 2 weeks of flashing and trying I give up...
I use the OEM from the latest official dutch 6.5 rom so those drivers can not be the issue. As stated before...It's all pointing to manila 2.5. But after flashing disabling manila does not fix the problem. So it must be somewhere in the cooking proces (Ervius VK 1.82)
Please one of you supreme chefs help me out here because it's frustrating me now and I want to get it working as it should.
Thanks a milion in advance!!
EDIT: to the mods; I did not know where exactly to post this after the re-organisation. So please move if neccesary.

Almost 170 views and no comments??
Please fellow cooks...I'm desperate...

Well i do think you already have an answer.
But the actual non existing pressure you feel from users that always want the latest no matter how buggy it might be
When MS started to "Leak" builds beyond 20000 (But before 21054).
I also started noticing Bluetooth pairings going haywire and acting differently.
As i don't care that much about what most "Flashers" think and tend to believe that the choices i make concerning cooking a rom are probably more founded in what is right.
I tend to stick to stable OS Builds. It's the New Age XDA dilemma, either dish out unpredictable New Builds, or make a ROM that in the first place Suits you and has the functionality You need.
In this case that would be an older SYS.
I think that also because of TP2 has now switched to different Bluetooth Stack and 2.1+EDR isn't helping.
And it might be that MS is actually working on getting up to speed and changing their own BT Stack, so HTC will not need to turn to WidComm for the BT Stack.
I do believe that there are a few Senior Cheffs and some Non Cheffs do probably know which other parts (besides the Obviously named Bluetooth related SYStem parts), might be related to dealing with Bluetooth Pairing and such.
Whatever solution there might or might not be, don't hesitate to make it hybrid.
Use the old fashioned method of dividing and conquering.
(Get a good supply off Coffee)
Start with Stable Release Build SYS replace 50% test. (leaving all obviously Bluetooth related Packages from Stable Build)
Replace the Next 25% Test etc, you know the drill.
And hopefully isolate the Packages from SYS that have related Files to Bluetooth.
Luckily there's already enough SYS packages you can rule out like enterprise, entertainment, Office and such.
I know it's not a cut and dried answer, but hopefully i can "Je een hart onder de riem steken" that your up against this alone ATM.
But consider this, how many time do you have at hand, and is it worth it putting a lot of time into it, only finding out MS fixes it in a few "Leaked" Beta Builds.
Who knows maybe this Bump does get a few others on to this thread that has already tackled this problem.
(Da_G is the most likely, that i know that might know other Bluetooth dependencies inside the SYS)
Cheerz,
PS: don't forget to enjoy the snow a bit.

Pairing with Avic f900BT
I too have the exact same problems. The phone is straight out of the box.
Any easy ansewrs as yer?

Magic3091 said:
I too have the exact same problems. The phone is straight out of the box.
Any easy ansewrs as yer?
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I got it working on mine using the attached cab