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Can someone please share their experience.
I am interrested to know how the devices perform in the Corporate install of the O2 and the JasJar.
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
The corporate with the code 0506?
Is the pocket MSN there on that configuration?
Which one is the most generic config?
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Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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a18041967 said:
Having used both I would recommend the o2 Exec ROM, I've ended up reverting back to this due to stability issues with the Imate ROM. Both ROM's will need registry hacks, go with the o2 one running in corporate mode.
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Is it possible to flash a Jasjar with the O2 ROM? If so will I lose anything?
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Yes,you can flash any ROM to your Jasjar , you will lose your setting email..etc,others same as new.
I have just loaded my MDA PRO with the O2 ROM, and tryed all the possible installs (basic, Corporate with code 0506 and personal)
Only the Corporate one is really customisation free. I have myself bypassed the extended_ROM so now I have run only one cab the Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed.CAB which is responcible for the video call. Strangely enough I have the same scin in the dialer as I had in the JasJar ROM...
Also as mentioned by... that by O2 ROM the splash screen is not installed it is not true, as right after the upgrade to the O2 ROM and the reset you see the O2 splash screen, which is untill now the nicest looking splash screen.
What I can say after 2 hours of using the O2 ROM is the following:
1. The amount of free program memory after reset is the same as by JasJar ROM.
2. The device is at least twice as fast as with the JasJar ROM.
Conclusion for now I am much happier with the O2 ROM. Much more stable and responsive.
As I am using Jasjar and after your comments I am considering moving to o2 could you tell me how you configured your Jasjar? Specifically, I am using my jasjar without the extended rom except for the video dialler and the bluetooth patch. It is generally running well except for the need to hard reset once in a while. When comparing with the O2 were you also using Jasjar without extenstion?
Thanks, apap
Having used both ROMs, I think they're essentially the same ROM with a few minor branding cosmetic mods... The two ROMs are only dated 2 wks apart and doubt there are any major differences.
To be honest, I couldn't find any performance gain or loose using either one of them and the O2 ROM seem to be slightly smaller in size (maybe due to the additional Imate games/themes etc?) So after going Imate ROM with O2 extended ROM, I went back to all O2 ROM..
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
OK boys and girls...
I have tryed the O2 ROM the whole day yesterday and last night late reverted to JasJar ROM. Reason: maybe I did something wrong but in corporate install of the O2 ROM with the code 0506 but I had no pdf reader which is unfortunately a crucial software for me. I have tried to install it from the cabs of the O2 ROM and from JasJar ROM but it would not work. Of course the solution might be to get a cracked version. But that fact pissed me off so much that I have loudly cursed O2 and reverted to JasJar.
Observations: I have noticed that O2 ROM has more program memory when you reset the device but once you use the thing the amount of program ROM is the same as in JasJar. So the fact that just after the soft reset there is more ROM is actually not interresting. I also found that in the O2 ROM there is a problem with the start menu opening up first time after a soft reset (If you soft reset the device and then for the first time click on start it takes 10-13 seconds to open it up) and this issue was the biggest issue for me to change to O2 ROM. Pocket MSN seemed to work faster and is more responsive on the O2 and maybe overal performance is a little notch better then JasJar. The Bootup Splash screen on the O2 is much nicer then on JasJar it is really sharp and cool
Conclusions: If you like experimenting try out the O2 ROM because you get to see also (if you try out the Personal install) how badly an operator can F*** up the device, it is beyond my understanding but it is hideous their Launch software, the screen looks like a battle field and I get dizzy looking at it, the task manager which it installs is such a crap only due to a fact that once you close all the progs with the task manager the task manager is still running so to close it too you have to go to settings ->system->memory and close it from there. I can understand that the task manager which you can use from your today screen has to be running in order to work but this task manager you have to start by going to programs and starting it manually, It is comepletely beyond me what is the purpose of such a task manger, but hey maybe I am STUPID ???
The battery icon moved next to the start I can understand the handyness of this, but the O2 icon which does not do anything is also comepletely beyond my understanding. Plus when changing the screen orientation the battery and the O2 icons suddenly get a darker background and it looks like it hangs, but it only looks like it the device does not hang, but it is still an ugly sight to see...
If you opt for the Corporate install with the 0506 code I think you are fine the machine performs as it should, and is very stable, no O2 annoyances and no O2 **** to be seen apart from a couple of icons in the Programs. One of them is the O2 install which I beleive supposed to allow you to change your install type, without making a hard reset, but of course it only works in one direction, meaning that if you have a corporate install with the code 0506 and you want to change to standard or to personal it will work but if you are running the standard and want to go back to corporate or if you are runnning the Personal (full featuer O2) and want to change to standard it will not work. After playing around with that I have found that my simmanager and enroller icons dissapeared, but I was able to get it back by running one of the cabs. it was different with the pdf reader, since I need one I have decided to run that O2 install type thingy and chose first standard install which did not bring the pdf back, and then I have chosen the personal install which would mean that I should have now everything on it , the pdf icon was there but alais the pdf did not work I kept on getting an error.
One more thing when you install the CORP version the dialer skin is the same as by the JasJar so I beleive that that is the generic skin, since the O2 Dialer skin is very vague the buttons are beautiful, but have to much light in them so it is difficult to see the letters
SO I am back to JasJar ROM and I beleive will stick to it for a while.
The progs I run :
TT5.1
Resco Explorer
Skype 1.2 beta
Backgammon
Total commander
All installed on the storage card
I hope this not too boring and helps folks here.
srmz said:
I have a Jasjar. Due to the machine freezing occassionally on arrival of a new SMS I would like to give the O2 ROM a try.
I shall be obliged if someone can tell me that when I have installed the O2 ROM and would like to go back to the i-mate ROM would this be possible. What is the procedure to revert from O2 ROM back to the I-mate ROM.
I will appreciate your help
Regards
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I have done it and reverted back to the JasJasr rom no problems and I have an MDA PRO, so I am even further way from home.
Follow this thread to learn what are the procedures for upgrading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29354&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Good luck
The Exec ROM (basic and Corporate) do not suffer from a buggy Messaging app on the JJ ROM. The JJ ROM can cause the JJ to freeze on SMS notification and can crash when receiving emails over UMTS.
You mean the imate email app ?? or the bult in functionality. Because I do not have those symptoms. and I have received only today already about 12 sms messages.
About receiving the e-mail overUMTS: I use exchange active sync over UMTS and works like a charm without any problems...Maybe it freezes when using pop mail or imap? What is your configuration ?
And once again by the "buggy messaging app" you mean the imate e-mail??
Can someone confirm the presence of MSN and PDF inthe O2 Corporate mode ????
Thanx
Jasjar or O2?
I have also been wondering whether to try O2. Overall, after many trials I am quite satisfied with Jasjar. I have not installed extended rom except for bluetooth patch and smardialer cabs. I am running: pocketinformant, magicbutton, repligo, netfront 3.3, resco explorer, pocket mechanic, microsoft voice command. I have done a number of recommended register tweaks. I have also updated the radio to 1.04.
Speed is good.
Remaining problems: Once in a while I need to soft reset to overcome freezes. My main problem now is that I cannot install new programs or updates, nor can I remove programs.
It would be useful to find out how others are dealing with these problems and whether thos running O2 corporate are confronting similar problems.
Should I switch to O2 corporate? There seem to be conflicting views on the matter.
thanks, apap
Churchill:
You wrote a few things about Extended ROMs, Code 0506 (for o2 Corp. mode?), and about bypassing the extended ROMs.
Also there was a mention of bluetooth and radio Cabs...
I would be obliged if you could elaborate and explain them to me.
I have the o2 Exec and would like to experiemnt with the corp. mode since I find that in personal mode it freezes up all too often (not enough memory I guess...) but I wouldn't like to loose essential functionality by changing my ROM.
Thanks in advance
Well I am right now updating my MDA PRo from JasJar Rom to O2 ROM, since I still think the O2 ROM was a notch faster in the corporate mode.
I would not advice you to bypass the extended rom install as I found that some things do not work properly like the sim manager and pdf.
You are fine with the Corporate mode since it is the cleanest of all options including the JasJar.
Also Pocket MSN is more responsive in the O2 corporate mode, then with JasJar ROM.
So just go ahead and do a hard reset and choose corporate mode with the code 0506.
By the Way as I have already mentioned earlier the Boot splash screen of O2 is the best till now. Funny is that I was called by T-Mobile representative a couple of days ago and asked what I think about the MDA PRO. I have told him that MDA PRO with t-mobile customization is history by me and I am running JasJar. He warned me that if something happens to my device they can not help me now since there is no t-mobile rom available to flash it with (I do not understand that where is the release rom? did they loose it or something?) but I am still eligible for my 2 year warranty. He also asked why I have switched to JasJar, I have told him that the t-mobile customisation is crap and that the device was slow and unstable. He confirmed that and also saysd that this is exactly the reason why he is contacting me, since they aparently received a threat from one of the major consumer organisations in the netherlands. So he sayd that they are verifying the isue with the users and it does not look good since everybody complains. So hopefully t-mobile will release new rom soon...
Funny is that I have mentioned to him that I hate the hideous colors and boot splash screen of t-mobile rom, his answere was that the boot splash screen they are extremely proud of since it took a long time to come up with the design.... DUDE how long can it take to come up with something so hideous?
Anyhow....
P.S. I let you guys know how is my MDA PRo with O2 ROM
Adobe acrobat reader is available freely from the adobe site, in the same way as their readers always are:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readerforppc.html
HTH
The O2 Exec has OS 1.13.48, which has a memory leak bug. Commontime mNotes synchronization cannot free the memory after use, so a 3rd consecutive sync empties out all remaining RAM. This was resolved in OS version 1.13.53, which is on the Jasjar.
Yes, the Exec ROM seems a tad faster, but at least for me the memory leak is decisive for the Jasjar ROM.
Jasjar or O2?
Wiz, have you reverted to Jasjar? Also, I do not quite understand the memory leak problem. Does this mean that there is a danger of losing note information? Finally, any suggestions on how to resolve the inability to add new programs? Does this problem occur only with Jasjar?
Thanks, apap
Hi Guys, I have an HTC Branded S630 with ROM 1.18.405.4. It has some minor issues like freezing, running slow sometimes and I was hoping a ROM upgrade would fix it, however, HTC does not have a support page for it...
Would it be advisable to upgrade to the Dopod 1.16.708.7 ROM? Or would this be like downgrading? Anyone know which ROM is newer/better?
Thanks.
anyone ? ?
Hi, I have the same problem running rom 1.18.707.4 and I installed the 1.16.708.7 but the situation remained the same. Therefore, I recommend to keep yours for now and look for another solution.
For your knowledge, my problem is that, besides freezing sometimes and becomming slow, after the initial sync with Outlook (+600 contacts and 2 weeks agenda only - no favorites, no e-mails, etc) the agenda does not open anymore and the e-mails are not downloaded automaticaly (I sync my IMAP server through GPRS).
I'm interested to know how you actually upgraded to the newer Dopod ROM on your HTC branded device ?
I have the same unit and I have been looking for a way to unlock this device so I can put non-HTC ROM's on but haven't found a way yet.....??
You might want to check Wiki. There's a cab "Oxios memory" which recovers lost memory.
It might help you know!
Cheers
Htc giving me hell
Ok folks i have been trying for at least a month to sort out my S630's wifi problem... it started one day when i was at a friends house trying to connect to their wifi, i was unsuccessful, so when i went in the com manager to connect it was saying that "device driver not loaded", i found that strange, because 2 hours before that i used wifi at a different location then turned off the radio. I soft rest the phone,, and the same thing happened... i then hard reset it and now the wifi option is no longer in commanager, hence no way to connect or turn on the radio... i flashed a number of roms to the phone and currently i have the dopod c730 rom (Chinese and english pack) installed on the phone,,, and still no luck... can someone please point me in the direction to get this fixed??? this phone was bought because it had the wifi and now nothing,,, it is completely functional, just without what is important to me, the wifi... Sorry if i am in the wrong trend but i am new to this and couldn't find much persons with this problem,,, please forgive..
I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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I have serious problems with Touch 4.01 and even Vanilla 4.01 reported as stable. It is fare away to be stable at all. Continuous freezing the mobile phone functionality. Telephone looks like everything is fine, but SMSes are not delivered and calls are in my voice mailbox. To find out the problem, I have downloaded Bepe's Artemis kitchen 2.1, what was (my feeling) the source of this ROM. And possibly recognized the problem. The Bepe issued two versions, second is fixed. But it seems that this Vanilla and Touch (4.01) has been generated by the first one. I have checked the size, date and time of OEMDrivers and they are different. Meschle, is it possible to generate your ROM by this fixed version? Thanks in advance.
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Hi, how long do u have such problems and who is ur mobile operator. according to ur name I suppose that u r from Czech Rep.
I'm asking b'cause during last weekend I had also problem with my phone which leaded to reflashing of my phone but it was problem of operator.
I'm by O2 and have O2 XDA Orbit. I wasn't able to get any sms or report of delivery, i could send them only. and now i have bit different problem, sometimes sms from me is delivered, is shown in phone but it is something what i sended already before and then it dissapears from phone reciever's phone.
Such serious problems with ROM are strange, b'cuause those ROMs are out more then month and as I know, nobody had the same problem as u. I'm using Touch 4.01 without cube from first day when it was published here with no problem. i'm not couting problem with memory leaking which is probably problem of wm6.1 rom in general then Touch 4.01.
No, I am not only one who referring this problem. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375930
Correct, I am from CZ and using T-Mobile, but in roaming quite often. But it happens independently on network. Touch Full 4.01 was more or less horrible, Vanilla 4.01 is better, but still time to time is freezing the radio part. To avoid discussion about radios, I have tried last 3 versions with the same result (3.08,2.98,2.97). But I really believe that problem is with OEMDrivers in Bepe's Kitchen. What Bepe even highlighted, that these drivers in first version are for different type of phone. The most stable version, what I had, it was B&B4.2 for more than 1/2 year. But of course WM6.1 is much faster. It was my reason for upgrade.
ok, then i cannot help, this is up on guys which r cooking ROMs.
will cross my fingers for u to solve this problem. it is nice from guys that they provided new ROMs based od WM 6.1 two months earlier than Macro**** but such serious problem takes us back to prehistory, b'cause having phone with which u r scared to call b'cause of freezing has no point.
Same problem here, flashed a lot of different roms to my device but only having these freeze problems since touch 4.01.
Right now it's only once per week. But it's been much worse: reboot, lock after 30 secs, freeze 5 secs later, repeat. Had to reflash my device. (And i always flash twice with a new rom).
I hope the fix is as easy as just building the rom with a newer version kitchen.
same problem for me.
i am running 4.01 Touch with full cube, operator is orange netherlands.
sometimes i have to reset the phone 3 times a day, after that i get a whole lot of sms (normal) and the calls i missed.
going to try 4.02 now, hope that's one's better
doesnt matter what version do you use - but always flash twice(one by one) and make a hard reset after flashing. Result is - much more stable work.
@d3ton4tor
I'm on dutch orange too, but haven't had a problem with touch lite 4.01. I'm using touch vanilla 4.02 now and still no probs.. I've got a MDA Compact tho..
I never had any problems with 4.01, or any of the previous roms, but since using 4.02 i have had several lockups now, about once a week. So maybe i better reflash it again see if that cures it ?
It is interesting. I have made update for Touch Vanilla 4.02 and everything works perfect. Sometime the less is more. I would never go for all Cube staff, it is only the memory eater from my perspective. I have realized that I can remove from StartUp folder WiFi link (I have T-Mobile ARTE110 - WiFi missing) and it is better. Under more or less conditions above 20 MB and it is very valuable especially for navigation SW like iGO.
Try PagePool 8M
Try PagePool 8M.
Pagepool
My English is so bad.
Or try the 4.02 it works fine here in my HTC 3300 also t-mobile client ;-).
Flashed it yesterday and works fine no freeze or what ever, even gps and radio works fine.
Greetz THeM
Destinator n maps
hey i just installed destinator 7 on my o2 orbit it doesnt detect the map infact no map at all
can any1 help me with this???
Hi,
You need to ensure that the maps folder is included in the destinator apps folder. That is when your destinator would be able to detect the maps.
By the way can you share your Destinator 7 (Mumbai Map) with me ??
Regards,
kailash
I too have problems with the Touch 4.1 vanilla rom but my issues manifested themselves after I had been using the rom for a while without any problems. Now I run out of memory quicker when using PIE and have to reset a lot more. Also sometimes am unable to connect to GPRS/EDGE without a reset. I will be trying any new roms that come out but its becoming clear to me that I need to upgrade.
Hi,
after the latest hard reset I decided I could also just try out the latest M2D build 20 and found that the boot time of the device changed from roughly 1min to over 4mins even after deinstallation of M2D. Also the performance behaviour of the device after the deinstallation was quite unacceptable. Does anybody else has experienced similar?
ROM is original WM6 o2 ROM (GER).
Yes I have a similar problem, with several Orbits...
We have developed our own app for these, but after sometime - could be days or weeks, the PDA will just go so slow within Windows, even when our software isn't running.
Theres nothing I can see thats obviously wrong, and I know that a hard reset will fix this.
Are there any diagnostic tools out there for PPC, or something that could help us get to the bottom of this?
Thanks.
Using WM5.0 O2 rom - I think there are other Orbits with the same problem that are using WM6/wm6.1 - still the O2 rom though..
Hi All,
I looked thru 160 pages of searching with different keywords, and didnt find answer. I have the stock ATT rom, hard spl to add the 4.49 radio, have personalizer and Photo Contacts Pro 5.5 on it. Nothing else except to the two cab fixes to reduce ram useage.
The problem is at times when I get a txt msg and I hit reply the txt opens up and when I slide the phone to expose the keyboard to reply, the phone will freeze up, the cursor is still blinking to input but the buttons and the touch screen is not responsive, I have to hit the reset button on the side of the phone to regain control. Anyone else having this problem and is there a fix for this?
Check the hot fix on HTC's site
I have had the same issues and HTC recomended installing both hotfixes as they fix alot of other isses other than what is shown. I will let you know how they work as I am installing them now.
i have the att tilt 2 and tried to install the hotfix to stop my phone from freezing but when i tried to run the installer its said not compatible for this phone??? what is the deal?
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i have the att tilt 2 and tried to install the hotfix to stop my phone from freezing but when i tried to run the installer its said not compatible for this phone??? what is the deal?
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Yep had the same problem when I tried to install the caller ID fix. the sms fix installed fine no issues there. I think the reason why it might have said its incompatible is because it might have been for the WinMo 6.1 not for the 6.5 version. I read somewhere (sorry who said it) that it checks against the loaded rom. and my feeling is the sms fix wasnt corrected in the 6.5 version but the caller id was, possibly. I have Tilt 2 from ATT and it has WinMo 6.5 on it stock, just hardspl-ed it to add the newest radio to it, which is 100x better then the stock version that came with the ATT rom.
The hotfixes only work on the stock ROM. Not sure if the fact that the OP changed the Hard SPL and the radio would prevent the hotfixes from installing. And the stock ROM for the Tilt 2 is WM 6.5, not 6.1.
I know the tilt 2 comes with 6.5 I stated that already but I tried the caller id fix before I hard spl when I had it only couple of days ago and still wouldnt update on the stock att rom with no tinkering.
The hotfixes will work on HardSpled phone as long as rom is original. I did mine when they first came out with no issues.
I also looked a little more closely at this, I installed the rom 1.86.401.0 that comes with the radio 4.49.25.14 and the date of this is new compared to the hotfixes, with that said would it be safe to assume the hot fix is already implimented? Cause ever since I dumped the ATT stock rom and add this htc original rom, and the tweaks I wanted to add, I have had no issues with the phone and have not installed the hotfixes except for the keyboard which seems to have come out after this rom update.
Any word on how we can get it to work on the phone with other roms?? or if I go back to th eoriginal will it work... I am basically stuck in limbo every time i go into sms now and i am about to drop kick the phone.