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Greetings,
Could anyone help me please.
I need the following for an XDA
Stylus
Headset
Carkit.
Thanks
ireland
hi..u can order a stylus in any o2 shop, and by headset do u mean bluetooth, or wired?...their both available in o2 shops. readily available from installers, just ask for details in a shop like carphone warehouse. where are ur originals gone?.....i sincerely hope u dont possess a stolen item!
What would make you think it is stolen just because it lacks certain accessories, many items are sold on ebay and through adverts without the other bits.
Need to source headset for XDA, due to the fact that I damaged my last one while trying to adjust the clip. It ripped the wires apart. I have tried the O2 shops and they only stock items fro the XDAII. They are no longer holding stock for XDA. Also they only have stylus for XDAII, I am presently using an XDAII stylus and lose at least three a month. and at 20 Euro a packet, would like to cut my losses down.........
And to confirm I do not possess a stolen phone, thank you.
Silverki, I dont know if you wish to take this route but ebay have lots of cheap stuff for xda, just log on at www.ebay.co.uk and search xda.
my apologies
hey..no offence meant....its just that i despise ppl who deal in such, particulary an xda, which are usually much loved and coveted by their owners!....and, its good to see some more irish ppl here, welcome, and if i can be of any assistance, just ask..
Thank you for your help. I was last looking at www.my-xda.com and they use to have a link for accessories, but alas I cannot find the link on the web site and more.
I have not traded on e-bay yet but maybe now is the time to try..
Thanks again for your replies....
Silverski
By the way, my family is from Waterford city.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32242&item=6401105223&rd=1
If its not Buzz or toenail then its not right to sell it on ebay???
vbguru613 said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32242&item=6401105223&rd=1
If its not Buzz or toenail then its not right to sell it on ebay???
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hehe... definitely not me...
buzz
:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
isnt it illegal to do that?
We should send a message to every bidder letting them know they can get it for free.
i contacted the people and i informed eBay.
That shmuck!!!
the XDA crew does so much and this guy belittles it!!!!!
DOS him
I cant see the guy making much money on this really .... Microsoft are very renowned to shut down sites who allow downloads etc of M$ stuff , so i bet he'll be done too.
Im actually suprised that this forum still remains with all the hype on 2005.
i really hope it doesnt though, this forum is great.
...coz we are Bill's beta testers....
good one bzzz
(its the truth)
maybe someone can buy it and upload it here :twisted: 8)
duh... that guy is even showing my boot screen there!!! and selling also other xdadev stuff...
i wish i had eBay login to write something there...
odd how many pictures of smartphone 2005 he shows as well :lol:
I don't think it's possible to send e-mail to ebay users, but someone should inform the highest bidder that it's for free over here! That 'll sabotage this **** trying to make money from someone else's work.
Maybe through the "member feedback" system?
Correction: it is possible to contact ebay members. Should I tell the highest bidder to come looking here first?
@buzz_lightyear
you should put a signature on your creatations from now on.......... or i will sell your SwitchIT program on eBay .... loool just kidding man
i already contected the members and ebay
DOS him!!
I just emailed the current high bidder too. This jerk should be allowed to get away with it. I told the guy the address to the thread that has all the info this guy is selling, CURRENTLY AT US$77!!!
well even though that charging others for somebody else's work and charging people for something they can get for free
is very very poor taste
then if we yell to loud there will be a storm of people wanting to download from this site
and asking questions in the forum if that version of 2005 could be installed on their old ipaq 3750 or something like that
so in the intrest of this forums bandwidth and ms not releasing a heard of lawyers on everybody
it's good in some ways that some people get their rom from other sources then this site
It's not the first time, someone is selling some XDA-Developers tool at ebay.
But normally the prices weren't as high as in this case....
I would say, a person who isn't able to search the internet and get those things for free, isn't clever enough to use the xda-developers tools... ;-)
Maybe we should ask ebay, if they could make an extra moneypart to spent to the xda-developers..... ;-)
Stefan
What gets me is that this guy is a member of this forum, reading this thread and shamlessly playing with his big balls.
Rather than cross post in the various forums I'll post 1 list of my current spares auctions here and add to it as necessary in the future.
spv c500 housing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9144609384
spv c550 housing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9143546892
spv c600 housing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9144616188
spv m500 housing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9144610570
spv m600 housing
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9144607506
Please don't ask me any technical questions in this thread, it's purely to list parts auctions - use the relevant forum instead.
Richard
Latest listings:
C500 / typhoon housing.
C550 / hurricane housing.
C600 / tornado housing.
M500 / magician housing.
M600 / prophet housing.
M2000 / blueangel housing.
M500 original stylus.
Typhoon keypad.
Blueangel earpiece - will work as magician rear speaker as well with adjustment.
Blueangel power button.
Blueangel volume slider.
Blueangel / Harrier microphone.
XDA / SPV / Ipaq sync port connector.
Richard
Inasmuch as in private it is complained why I have written public and now the memory ignores my demand makes to obtain the reimbursement me from the post offices them that today after 3 months continues not to arrive the connectors to me already pays to you.
Continuing with this behavior I will be forced to turn in the legal situs to me in order to obtain from she the just compensation.
It is not complained after the bad publicity
Titanich said:
Inasmuch as in private it is complained why I have written public and now the memory ignores my demand makes to obtain the reimbursement me from the post offices them that today after 3 months continues not to arrive the connectors to me already pays to you.
Continuing with this behavior I will be forced to turn in the legal situs to me in order to obtain from she the just compensation.
It is not complained after the bad publicity
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Yawn. boring. I posted the item, it tracks as being handed to the Italian post office who have lost it, you tried to make a false paypal claim against me without giving me time to contact the post office AND YOU LOST.
In defending that claim, I had to send my proof into paypal and now cannot claim from the post office for the loss, as paypal have not sent the proof back. The post office will not accept my copies that I made, so this is YOUR FAULT for making the false claim!
I'll attach screendumps if anyone's really bothered?....
Thought not.
Richard
1° it to paypal has only sended a copy, therefore you still hold in hand originates them to it;
2° I have started a true claim paypal, not false, why after repeated email she I did not answer, in fact the claim has been started 2 months after;
3° It only can start the procedure for the reimbursement near the post office them.
Saying this knows that it is my intention to turn me to a lawyer in order to carry it in court.
No, I had to fax copies to paypal AND send originals to them. You contacted paypal first, and when that failed, you emailed me directly and through this board. It was a false claim, as I had proof of postage for the items AND. YOU. LOST.
Go on, go to a lawyer. :roll:
Lets see how far you get.
Beloved sig. Perhaps Richard,
you forgets that I have not received nothing, perhaps she forgets that only it can ask the reimbursement from the mail, perhaps she believes that people are stupid not to understand when a person brails up, paypal ask only a copy for the receipt, she originates them to it ALWAYS remain and HOWEVER to the person whom she sends like valid test. It sure will be called to show the test of happened shipment, in court and I will demonstrate that it is denying my right to me to having a reimbursement for the goods never received.
It is calm, I am already obtaining the better thing, to make to see that dishonest and strafottente person is she. In court I will have other satisfactions.
I add:
it must have shame with this behavior with the customers.
Titanich said:
Inasmuch as in private it is complained why I have written public and now the memory ignores my demand makes to obtain the reimbursement me from the post offices them that today after 3 months continues not to arrive the connectors to me already pays to you.
Continuing with this behavior I will be forced to turn in the legal situs to me in order to obtain from she the just compensation.
It is not complained after the bad publicity
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Titanich said:
1° it to paypal has only sended a copy, therefore you still hold in hand originates them to it;
2° I have started a true claim paypal, not false, why after repeated email she I did not answer, in fact the claim has been started 2 months after;
3° It only can start the procedure for the reimbursement near the post office them.
Saying this knows that it is my intention to turn me to a lawyer in order to carry it in court.
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Titanich said:
Beloved sig. Perhaps Richard,
you forgets that I have not received nothing, perhaps she forgets that only it can ask the reimbursement from the mail, perhaps she believes that people are stupid not to understand when a person brails up, paypal ask only a copy for the receipt, she originates them to it ALWAYS remain and HOWEVER to the person whom she sends like valid test. It sure will be called to show the test of happened shipment, in court and I will demonstrate that it is denying my right to me to having a reimbursement for the goods never received.
It is calm, I am already obtaining the better thing, to make to see that dishonest and strafottente person is she. In court I will have other satisfactions.
I add:
it must have shame with this behavior with the customers.
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Oh Dear... :roll:
has you housing for prophet or qtek s200 in grey colour? thanks
Hello,
Is there a way to change the imei number on an HTC device using freely available tools?
I have down-graded the ROM of my device and its no longer CID-locked.
Then I tried to use Rascal's tool (based on his post which says that you don't need credits to change IMEI), but apparently while you indeed don't need credits, you still need the dongle.
Ordering a dongle seems like a rather inconvenient method, I would have ordered his/her tool already if it was available for sale online, but a dongle seems rather odd in this time and age of purely electronic commerce.
Can aWizard, or any of the other tools available somewhere help to manually change the IMEI?
And if you're wondering WHY I need to change the IMEI:
1) I live in Turkey
2) The administration in this country decided it was better to inconvenience legitimate users of cell phones acquired abroad, rather than actually muster the resources to find and prosecute the people who really do steal, clone, and smuggle phones illegally into the country
3) This amazing administration has just shut off my phone with a 24 hour (how gracious is that!) warning
4) Being a non-paranoid person (BIG mistake for Turkey), I don't keep my purchase receipts etc., so I have no way to prove I have legally purchased this phone, except for a credit card transaction and online receipt, which they don't have the "brains" to figure out
Yes, yes - I know I need to upgrade my country. Sadly, I don't know of any other countries which would just let me immigrate into. So, if anybody here has ideas/procedures for fixing an IMEI without using commercial tools (or by using electronically delivered commercial tools), PLEASE let me know.
Oh, and next time I'm abroad, I'm FOR SURE getting a foreign line, and using that in Turkey to roam, instead of dealing with this despotic state nonsense.
u can simply check this topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54910
or use this function http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php instead of opening a new thread
Dear Raskal,
I've already read those threads, but I was looking for an electronic solution.
As I have already PMed you, I am willing to pay you $100 for a one-time solution to change my fixed IMEI so you are sure there is no risk of piracy.
I was unable to find a secure reseller to ship your physical dongle product to Turkey, therefore I am forced to seek electronic alternatives.
mimarsinan said:
Dear Raskal,
I've already read those threads, but I was looking for an electronic solution.
As I have already PMed you, I am willing to pay you $100 for a one-time solution to change my fixed IMEI so you are sure there is no risk of piracy.
I was unable to find a secure reseller to ship your physical dongle product to Turkey, therefore I am forced to seek electronic alternatives.
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u can send me payment by western union or paypal and i can send you one. 100 usd is okay for one jafwm incl dhl to turkey. it can arrive in 3-4 day after payment. But you must make sure that your device is supported and that your device is CID unlocked. If your device is cid locked it will cost 25 euro more if you can not find a free cid unlocker.
Dear Raskal,
I've already downgraded my ROM and cid-unlocked my device, as I explained the post above. In fact I've even customized the startup screen :lol: Everything but change the IMEI. The device is a Wizard and I have also used your tool - it works fine until hitting the "Write to SD Card" stage, at which point it bails out with a "check hardware" error, because the dongle is missing. So I presume the procedure works fully.
I've already responded to you in a PM, explaining I am willing to order from a guaranteed local reseller, or direct from you. I am happy to try either option.
However, I thought you might be happier too, if you pocketed the entire $100 for the tool, instead of shelling out half of that money for DHL shipping to Turkey. Honestly, that works better for me too, because I can instantly unlock my phone, AND I don't have to worry about the parcel getting stuck in customs, AND I don't wait for physical shipment. This is certainly something that would benefit both of us.
I suspect you are concerned about piracy. Well, I am a shareware developer by trade, and I understand how you feel. However I'm sure if somebody out there wants to crack JAFwm, (s)he can crack it with or without the dongle. Nothing seems uncrackable - please correct me if I am wrong, and the dongle provides you with some sort of extreme protection.
My original post here to this forum was also trying to see if there is a way to unlock this phone without paying for tools. I have tried all freely available tools and gotten nowhere, sadly. For instance one tool looked promising, but I don't have a USB-to-serial cable, so I am totally locked out of it. Getting such a cable also seems like a pretty hard-core task, at least in Turkey!
At this point, I've spent three days on this issue with zero resolution, I have been greatly inconvenienced by my phone being offline, and I just want to get it unlocked ASAP. Like I said, I am happy to pay you, and look forward to getting your response. I hope you have a reliable Turkish reseller, or are willing to ship to me direct.
And I'm sure if you consider a purely electronic solution for the future, your users will appreciate your products even more, and the promise and effect of instant gratification will surely boost your sales, offsetting any possibe damages caused by piracy. Its better to sell 100 products and lose 10 to piracy, than sell just 50 products and have no piracy, in my opinion.
Respectfully,
Mimar
Obviously Mimar has no idea of the realities of phone unlocking software! It's very cut-throat and any and all possible protection is used to defend a product against hackers :roll:
Maybe once a handset is 5+ years old perhaps?...or then again...
Richard
Competition is always cut-throat. Products don't sell because they are hard to crack, they sell because they are easy to use, and easy to buy.
mimarsinan said:
Competition is always cut-throat. Products don't sell because they are hard to crack, they sell because they are easy to use, and easy to buy.
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Not with phone unlocking. I think Raskal know's a bit more about his market than you or I ever would....his products sell becuase he offers features no-one else does and they are hard to crack - if they were easy to crack they wouldn't sell....
Usually phone unlockers ( furious boxes etc ) can cost $500 - $1000 so they are used to protecting their software via hardware. Maybe look into it further before talking about what you know little?
Richard
Richard -
Please try to keep the discussion on-topic and professional. I'm sure people visit this forum to find solutions to their problems, and not to hear what you think about how much/little others know.
Software companies sell products on the Internet that are priced far in excess of $1000, which you quoted as a high bound below. You can also find cracks for those products on most pirate sites. Having a crack for a product indicates that there is demand for it - this should not be viewed as something negative. In fact, if you cannot find a crack for a product, that usually means there isn't much demand for it.
People often send me cracks that have been released (by God knows whom) for my products, expecting me to "fix" my products so they are no longer crackable. I am always pleased to see these cracks - its concrete proof that there is solid demand for my product. And instead of spending time and resources to "fix" my products in this way, I'd rather add new features and improve usability, so the dollars I get actually make my products better, and my users happier.
Do cracks lower my sales? Absolutely not! People who don't have the money (or ethics) to buy my software won't buy it anyway. Those customers are already lost - why worry about them?
I'm still waiting to hear from Raskal about payment instructions using PayPal...if Raskal had online delivery, I would have ordered two days ago. That's money Raskal is losing on a daily basis from customers like me from all over the world, except lost customers don't usually write about their situation and explain themselves. They just walk away.
Raskal isn't a reseller, he appoints agents worldwide as the sales of his other products are so high...
And as for going off topic - looks who's talking. :evil:
$1000 for phone unlock software is the high end. As the people who use it generate $25 - $50 each time they charge a customer of course there is going to be people who want to crack it and make that money for no outlay - it isn't simply warez cracking that is the issue here like you say, it is a tool for earning large revenues, so they are more likely to protect it with hardware or any method they can - not only to protect their sales but also the sales / earning potential of those who have bought their products - once the unlocking product is free, everyone has it, and prices the people then charge end users for unlocking fall, so the people who paid a lot for it loose out. Raskal actively stops this. -
hence my explaining that your begging for a purely electronic software solution to your problem is going to fall on deaf ears. OOoooh, offer him $100! He really needs that (little) money....
'but I promise I won't let a Russian team crack the code, honest Raskal'...
yeah, he'll fall for that one. :wink:
If he sends you one directly rather than through his network of resellers he is doing you a favour. Don't be so rude and impatient - if you need it quickly perhaps contact him via his own website rather than this one?
Richard
Of course, you do realize you're hurting your own credibility by your unwarranted language and accusations, right?
I've pointed out problems in Raskal's fulfillment which are very likely hampering his sales. Why someone would want to slow his business down in this way is beyond me, but I don't call them names or try to discredit them :roll:
As for the objections you state below, which comprise the only sensible parts of your post, they do not stand up to scrutiny. Raskal could improve his sales model and sell direct to the end-user, eliminating the middlemen and dramatically increasing his profits. I have already explained why I do not consider cracking a legitimate concern.
I have no business with you, although for some reason you have appointed yourself Raskal's advocate. :lol: Forgive me if I don't indulge in more replies to you on this thread. Well, I guess my business practices give me better things to do, after all! :lol:
Well frankly I'm glad no-one is helping you with that attitude. :lol:
You have no idea about Raskal's business. I have some idea. I'm sure he's very happy the way he is without 'instant experts' such as yourself coming along and telling him how to run it.
'cracking is not a legitimate concern'.
Ok.... :roll:
I bet Raskal will be glad to know you think that too when he's deciding whether to do your software only solution.... :wink:
Richard
Chillax people.
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mimarsinan: As much as I sympathise, I don't understand why someone in Turkey doesn't just buy Raskal's unlocker and capture an enormous captive market. You can unlock all the phones you want, for whatever price you want. For that market, surely any price for his unlocker would be reasonable? Better do it before the next guy does, eh?
There are software only solutions, but AFAIK they have not been made available for legal reasons.
This is a friendly board, even if I have to beat it into you with a stick
Be nice, or the thread gets locked.
V
Hi Vijay,
Thanks for stepping in.
I have no interest in unlocking other people's phones. I just need a solution that unlocks my phone, in a timely manner. Raskal has yet to provide me with ordering instructions for his solution, and as I've already said, I'm not too excited about the shipping delay and potential problems in customs.
Are you aware of any other solutions I can try in the meantime? XDA Developers have a solution that requires a usb to serial cable, which I cannot find here either. I even studied the source code of their VB program, and tried to gather the same data from the device ROM using EXEs that ship with aWizard...but either the addresses are wrong in the VB program for my device, or I'm missing something (quite likely).
I appreciate any and all assistance you can provide in this regard - I just want this phone unlocked, I don't mind paying for it, but while I'm waiting for a response from the dealer, I'll keep trying to figure a way on my own. That way at least if I come up with something, I can give it back to the community
I will pay up to $1,500 for the development of a free IMEI restore tool under GNU/GPL.
Please see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58095
for details.
Make your bid today - get paid for helping people, get paid for doing the work you love, get paid for advancing the state of freely available tools.
Note: Because this is work-for-hire, the employer assumes all legal risk associated with the project, and the employee is free from any risk of litigation. Please review the topic post for details.
mimarsinan said:
Make your bid today - get paid for helping people, get paid for doing the work you love, get paid for advancing the state of freely available tools.
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Get paid NOWHERE NEAR what you will get fined for breaking the law in whatever country you live in....
Get paid VERY LITTLE whilst you are locked up for 3 years in prison washing shirts / stampling out licence plates etc etc.
IMEI manipulation, in the UK at least, carries a 3yr prison sentence and £10,000 fine.
Richard
i have an m1000 spv, in trying to unlock the phone, i run an exe program. in doing this it changed my imei, witch has kill the phone part. i have the old, imei that was on the phone. is there a way that i !!! can change it back.
what do i need to buy to do it
sorry if i have not asked in the right part i am new to forums
PK Please help!!!!!!
Richard,
I've got to say your graphic descriptions of the "hard prison life" are very rich. Just wanted to ask you some questions, so I can better understand what's involved here. Obviously you know a lot more than I do.
First, a backgrounder; obviously your good buddy Raskal has already built a working solution, he even SELLS it for PROFIT, so surely, not only is he in jail by now (assuming you're being serious in your post), he's also suffering a really bad penalty since he made profit from this illegal venture.
So, how many years does Raskal have left on his 3 year sentence?
Did you see one of the license plates that he has made so far?
Or is he washing shirts, ironing them instead?
Did Raskal pay his 10,000 fine yet? Did he still have a profit remaining after paying that? Has he sold enough dongles to cover his 3 years in jail? Maybe if he had electronically sold his product?
These are just some questions so our readers can put into better context your defamation of my posts.
You obviously have some sort of commercial interest to protect - why else would you be bothering people who have nothing other than good intentions in mind, with a non-commercial project on top of that?
I have posted an interesting project, called for developers, and even offered payment for their time. I'm really sorry if that hurts your commercial interests, but you don't really have many options at this point:
o You can walk away, swallowing your pride
o You can try to improve the fulfillment process for your buddy's tools, so interest in this free project lessens
o You can continue defaming, bringing in more eyeballs to our case
Given your history, I'm pretty sure you won't be swallowing your pride and walking away. Careful - anything else hurts you even more.
'Given my history'? What a knob you are! Anyone in sales is bound to have people *****ing, and the only problems I have are with items that go abroad....hmmm, funny that.
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fluffcat1&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS
There's my ebay reputation - unique feedback - 1895, total positive - 2455, negative - 8.
Eight negative. Out of 2455. Makes me a crook does it? Winker.
You're the one making yourself look petty bringing up other threads you have no knowledge about and mentioning reputations - I have tried to help those people who have thrown it back at me so screw 'em - and it has no bearing on my comments on your actions in this thread despite you thinking it affects my 'reputation' - how can my fair comment 'hurts me even more.'? . How very pathetic of you.
You are the one who has made it personal, attacking both Raskal and I with no basis other than that he will not subvert his distribution process and cut out his middlemen just for you because you ewant him to, or write a special application just for you, and that I do not agree with you. It's no surprise no one wants to help you. This project is doomed frankly.
I have bought 1 jafWM from a UK reseller. I have had 2 email corresspondance with Raskal when the unlocking was first launched for jafWM ( it didn't do it out of the box) and I know a little of the unlocking industry and how it works.
jafWM is not aimed at 'hobbyist' phone unlockers or those who want to use it once or twice - it is a solution designed to make phone flashing ( and now unlocking) quick and painless for those not used to flashing HTC devices i.e market stall unlockers etc, and compared to some other devices it is relatively inexpensive. It is cheap as the device out of the box will not do anything other than flash files overriding CID, unlcoking needs a server credit at a cost of €25 IIRC.
If you wanted to flash your Nokia, would you pay € 500 for a furious box that could also change the IMEI? No. You'd get someone else with the box to do it...
Raskal actively promotes the free solutions for one-off unlocking use, and supports this site, but jafWM is desgned to save time and make flashing easier without reg edits etc to save time FOR THE PROFESSIONAL.
I have nothing to do with Raskal and no revenue to protect as you claim, I am merely stating my opinion to counter your ridiculus posts slagging him and other 'commercial' solutions.
IMEI manipulation is illlegal in most European countries. Raskal is not in a european country. The fact his device can do this does not render having it illegal. Using it to manipulate IMEI's is illegal, possession is not. It's his risk to develop the tool, but as all the other products he makes and sells for 'normal' phones can manipulate 'corrupt' IMEI's ( a handy euphemism) he obviously doesn't care as no-one has bothered him yet.
You say removing sim locks is illegal - IT ISN'T - it is perfectly legal and absolutley nothing to do with IMEI changing. You're just showing your lack of understanding of what you are talking about.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/20020031.htm
"1 Re-programming mobile telephone etc.
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he changes a unique device identifier, or
(b) he interferes with the operation of a unique device identifier.
(2) A unique device identifier is an electronic equipment identifier which is unique to a mobile wireless communications device.
(3) But a person does not commit an offence under this section if-
(a) he is the manufacturer of the device, or
(b) he does the act mentioned in subsection (1) with the written consent of the manufacturer of the device.
(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both, or
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine or to both.
2 Possession or supply of anything for re-programming purposes
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(2) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he supplies anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is supplied intends to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(3) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he offers to supply anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is offered intends if it is supplied to him to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(4) A unique device identifier is an electronic equipment identifier which is unique to a mobile wireless communications device.
(5) A thing is used by a person unlawfully for a purpose if in using it for that purpose he commits an offence under section 1.
(6) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both, or
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine or to both. "
Changing the IMEI to disguise the origin of a phone is illegal in the UK and most other european countries that I have looked into.
Your developers should go into this with their eyes open - they are producing a tool to commit an offence which has severe penalities in this country and others to deter mobile phone theft. If they can in any way be traced by IP / bank account / registration etc then they should be wary.
How do they know you aren't just bait from law enforcement to get the underground hackers prosecuted? Look how many posts you have made - most are begging for a software IMEI changer - there are already free software unlockers for the wizard.
p.s when I bought jafWM it couldn't unlock phones or 'repair' IMEIs so as I haven't updated my software I am not committing any offence, and it is not jafWM's primary purpose although it is sure to drive sales ;-)
Richard
mimarsinan said:
Well, I am a shareware developer by trade,...
Respectfully,
Mimar
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just forgot your home page, can you say me again where it was?
Hello,
I am interested in sponsoring the development of a free HTC IMEI Restore Tool. For this purpose, I have posted a project here:
http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=507960
If you have interest in this work, and have the time and skills to complete this project, and accept to make the results of your efforts available for free:
I WILL PAY YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
Please post a bid at the above site, explaining your qualifications. The minimum bid starts at $100, and naturally, bids can go a lot higher. I am willing to pay up to $1,500 for a tool of this capacity. Naturally if there are multiple bids, I will choose the lowest bid.
I will publish the resulting source code of this project under GNU/GPL, so others will benefit from your work also.
Why am I doing this?
1) About 3,000 Turkish HTC users have been greatly inconvenienced by the abrupt deactivation of their phones based on the IMEI
2) No free solutions appear to be available for HTC users
3) The quality of service for commercial solutions leaves a lot to be desired
What guarantees do you have that you will get paid?
1) The project the site is posted on is an escrow site
2) When I accept your bid, I will pay the site in advance - before you even start the project
3) Once the site confirms that the funds are in escrow, you begin work
4) You get paid when I confirm that your solution works
5) The site acts as a neutral arbitrer to resolve all disputes
For more information: www.rentacoder.com
Why will I share the results of your work for free?
1) I don't want people to think this is a commercial venture
2) I have no intention to compete in this "phone unlocking" market
3) I just want my phone restored, and FAST! I have no further interest
GPLing your efforts guarantees that other people can benefit from your work after this project (and my interest) expires; it also guarantees that nobody can take your source code [or a version of it] and charge for it.
There are legal issues with such program. It would use code obtained by reverse engeneering of radio part, and GPL license is absolutely incompatible with such code.
I would personally refuse to join such program, though I know the process of changing IMEI in Universal and some other devices.
And more. You'll need to give the author one device of each of device types you'll need to unlock. And this would cost you much more than 1500$.
Then we'll devise a variant of GNU/GPL which is compatible with the goal of this project: making this tool free for everyone, and the source code available.
Somebody who already has HTC devices can realize the software, and subsequently can pocket the entire cash.
mimarsinan said:
3) The quality of service for commercial solutions leaves a lot to be desired
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Have you tried on the dedicated support websites for the commercial solution(s)?
Thought not. So stop spamming this forum please - one thread of your begging is enough.
Richard
Richard you really are blabbing and actually it is you spamming. None of your posts help anyone and you're just being a "smarty" to other people.
Stop telling people what to do eh? he is trying to help people here. if you don't like it, you don't read his posts. thats it .
or do you think that your "stars" make you a more "reputable" person?... sheeeeshh....
Guys, although I'm surprised that there needs to be more then 1 thread on this by mimarsinan, I think that the idea is great... let's just let it pan out.
fluffcat1: I know your concerns, and it's obviously your posts and the other threads that have pushed mimarsinan to this idea, but again, it can't do any harm to see if the $$$ will flush out a solution. It worked for getting XP running on the Macs
mimarsinan: you would be wise to pay close attention to what Mamaich says. Any solution to this problem is highly illegal for most of us to release, regardless of your jurisdiction.
I suggest that making it closed source but free may assist you in getting a solution, but this might not be what you're after. But again, all respect to you for showing that you're serious about getting the solution.
V
Thanks, people.
My intent in making this open source was two-fold:
1) To demonstrate that I am not interested in making profit or entering the "phone hacking" market as a competitor,
2) To make sure that the source code built (or flushed) using the cash incentive goes back to the community and encourages further development.
If legal issues are a concern, as long as we have a free working solution, we may be able to drop the open source clause. We are free to negotiate all of this, guys and gals - so don't hold back on your bids.
Also, this would be work-for-hire, so the employer would have all rights to the furnished source code (non-exclusively if you wish), but the point is, the employee will be free from any sort of litigation, because this is work-for-hire. The employer would be solely responsible for the work performed, not the employee.
Bottom Line: This wouldn't get you into trouble, although it might get me. And this doesn't have to be published on your site if you're not comfortable, but I will assume the risk and publish it on my own site.
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Richard you really are blabbing and actually it is you spamming. None of your posts help anyone and you're just being a "smarty" to other people.
Stop telling people what to do eh? he is trying to help people here. if you don't like it, you don't read his posts. thats it .
or do you think that your "stars" make you a more "reputable" person?... sheeeeshh....
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1 Thread IS ENOUGH.
SPAM is SPAM. Replying to a thread is not spam. I am not telling anyone to do anything other than asking to avoid multiple cross posts and threads about the same topic which is SPAM.
The stars are how much I donate to xda-developers. Read my posts to see the help I have given and check my ebay feedback to see I am a 'reputable person'.
I'm glad you've reads all my previous posts before deciding I am unhelpful BTW. Mr I've-posted-five-times....
mimarsinan said:
Make your bid today - get paid for helping people, get paid for doing the work you love, get paid for advancing the state of freely available tools.
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Get paid NOWHERE NEAR what you will get fined for breaking the law in whatever country you live in....
Get paid VERY LITTLE whilst you are locked up for 3 years in prison washing shirts / stampling out licence plates etc etc.
IMEI manipulation, in the UK at least, carries a 3yr prison sentence and £10,000 fine.
Richard
Do we have any people who would like to ask questions on this project before making a bid?
Please let me know if you have any questions!
Richard,
You make it sound like I'm trying to lure people into this project so I can throw them into jail. Do you really believe that yourself?
If you're so concerned about the legalities, how come your buddy Raskal isn't in jail? Plus, he is SELLING his product, he is making a profit out of changing IMEI numbers. We won't be doing this for profit. If Raskal isn't in jail, there's simply no way we'll go to jail.
How about removing SIM locks? Do you think that's legal? I don't see you spamming other people's posts about SIM locks...don't be a hypocrite.
You must be having some kind of commercial interest to protect - there is no other way I can make sense of your extremely offensive, rude posts.
About your reputation...some people seem to think of you as a crook:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53815&highlight=fluffcat+crook
(may want to cover your back before you go out lashing at others next time)
Whatever reason you're against this free imei restore project I don't know - nor do I care. If you're not interested, the sensible thing is to walk away. If you really think you're going to jail for this - just walk away. Let us get the job done in peace.
If you're still coming back, then you're giving everybody plenty of reasons to brainstorm about your ulterior motives.
'Given my history'? What a knob you are! Anyone in sales is bound to have people *****ing, and the only problems I have are with items that go abroad....hmmm, funny that.
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=fluffcat1&ssPageName=STRK:ME:UFS
There's my ebay reputation - unique feedback - 1895, total positive - 2455, negative - 8.
Eight negative. Out of 2455. Makes me a crook does it? Winker.
You're the one making yourself look petty bringing up other threads you have no knowledge about and mentioning reputations - I have tried to help those people who have thrown it back at me so screw 'em - and it has no bearing on my comments on your actions in this thread despite you thinking it affects my 'reputation' - how can my fair comment 'hurts me even more.'? . How very pathetic of you.
You are the one who has made it personal, attacking both Raskal and I with no basis other than that he will not subvert his distribution process and cut out his middlemen just for you because you ewant him to, or write a special application just for you, and that I do not agree with you. It's no surprise no one wants to help you. This project is doomed frankly.
I have bought 1 jafWM from a UK reseller. I have had 2 email corresspondance with Raskal when the unlocking was first launched for jafWM ( it didn't do it out of the box) and I know a little of the unlocking industry and how it works.
jafWM is not aimed at 'hobbyist' phone unlockers or those who want to use it once or twice - it is a solution designed to make phone flashing ( and now unlocking) quick and painless for those not used to flashing HTC devices i.e market stall unlockers etc, and compared to some other devices it is relatively inexpensive. It is cheap as the device out of the box will not do anything other than flash files overriding CID, unlcoking needs a server credit at a cost of €25 IIRC.
If you wanted to flash your Nokia, would you pay € 500 for a furious box that could also change the IMEI? No. You'd get someone else with the box to do it...
Raskal actively promotes the free solutions for one-off unlocking use, and supports this site, but jafWM is desgned to save time and make flashing easier without reg edits etc to save time FOR THE PROFESSIONAL.
I have nothing to do with Raskal and no revenue to protect as you claim, I am merely stating my opinion to counter your ridiculus posts slagging him and other 'commercial' solutions.
IMEI manipulation is illlegal in most European countries. Raskal is not in a european country. The fact his device can do this does not render having it illegal. Using it to manipulate IMEI's is illegal, possession is not. It's his risk to develop the tool, but as all the other products he makes and sells for 'normal' phones can manipulate 'corrupt' IMEI's ( a handy euphemism) he obviously doesn't care as no-one has bothered him yet.
You say removing sim locks is illegal - IT ISN'T - it is perfectly legal and absolutley nothing to do with IMEI changing. You're just showing your lack of understanding of what you are talking about.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2002/20020031.htm
"1 Re-programming mobile telephone etc.
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he changes a unique device identifier, or
(b) he interferes with the operation of a unique device identifier.
(2) A unique device identifier is an electronic equipment identifier which is unique to a mobile wireless communications device.
(3) But a person does not commit an offence under this section if-
(a) he is the manufacturer of the device, or
(b) he does the act mentioned in subsection (1) with the written consent of the manufacturer of the device.
(4) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both, or
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine or to both.
2 Possession or supply of anything for re-programming purposes
(1) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he has in his custody or under his control anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he intends to use the thing unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(2) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he supplies anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is supplied intends to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(3) A person commits an offence if-
(a) he offers to supply anything which may be used for the purpose of changing or interfering with the operation of a unique device identifier, and
(b) he knows or believes that the person to whom the thing is offered intends if it is supplied to him to use it unlawfully for that purpose or to allow it to be used unlawfully for that purpose.
(4) A unique device identifier is an electronic equipment identifier which is unique to a mobile wireless communications device.
(5) A thing is used by a person unlawfully for a purpose if in using it for that purpose he commits an offence under section 1.
(6) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable-
(a) on summary conviction, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to a fine not exceeding the statutory maximum or to both, or
(b) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to a fine or to both. "
Changing the IMEI to disguise the origin of a phone is illegal in the UK and most other european countries that I have looked into.
Your developers should go into this with their eyes open - they are producing a tool to commit an offence which has severe penalities in this country and others to deter mobile phone theft. If they can in any way be traced by IP / bank account / registration etc then they should be wary.
How do they know you aren't just bait from law enforcement to get the underground hackers prosecuted? Look how many posts you have made - most are begging for a software IMEI changer - there are already free software unlockers for the wizard.
p.s when I bought jafWM it couldn't unlock phones or 'repair' IMEIs so as I haven't updated my software I am not committing any offence, and it is not jafWM's primary purpose although it is sure to drive sales ;-)
Richard
mimarsinan,
you are doing something wrong. turkish government came to a desicion to block the unrecorded imei numbered phones to stop phone theft making them impossible to operate again in the local phone networks. The phone owner can go to the police to report their phones as stolen and most commonly that the phones are in fact found. while doing this imei blocking, they have blocked the smuggled illegal phones too. But as they did that, they have said that they for one time record those smuggled phones to the system for a small fee like 3 dollars or so. when you buy a phone abroad, you can also register it with the system. You just have to take your phones original bill to the customs officer when entering your country turkey and make them stamp that bill for a small fee. Then taking this legal document to the TK or to your phoen operator, they record your phone to the system free of charge.
please stop this imei change stuff immediately...
If project will is organized that
everal methods of protection from illegal use the program.
1)webserver <->local client
2)only one change imei and keeping this in base webserver
3)in the event of request of the police bodies possible to find number which was assigned or publiс base
4)restriction for time of the functioning(working) the project -not more 1 month
5)restrictions in use IP address -for turkish only
I think this illegal change IMEI
SubZero,
When you go shopping abroad and buy a shoe or a shirt, do you keep its invoice? No...
...but the government needs to see my imate invoice to activate my phone.
Apparently there was a grace period while I was abroad where you could take your phone to a "dealer" and have it registered for a small fee. I never heard about this, and I never was able to take advantage of this.
The government is putting the burden on the consumer, instead of properly identifying and prosecuting the real people who are illegally smuggling thousands and thousands of cell phones with cloned IMEIs.
What happened to all those smugglers? They paid the small fee and got the job done. They won again.
What happened to people who legitimately bought their cell phones abroad? They lost.
That seem right to you buddy?
mimarsinan said:
SubZero,
When you go shopping abroad and buy a shoe or a shirt, do you keep its invoice? No...
...but the government needs to see my imate invoice to activate my phone.
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A shoe or a shirt is unlikely to need an invoice for a warranty claim becuase the digitiser won't work or the signal is weak....
And yes, I-mate's warranties are honoured worldwide so long as you have the original invoice as pointed out in their July newsletter.
So have you thrown away your invoice and lost your warranty? ooops...
Most people keep the invoice for expensive purchases like that.
Richard
imate support in Turkey, that's a good one!
mimarsinan said:
imate support in Turkey, that's a good one!
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Why's that a 'good one'? There are more service centres for imate in Turkey than in the UK! Do these places not exist then? Is it a big i-mate joke? Or are you just annoyed you lost you invoice and so lost your warranty?.... :roll:
http://www.clubimate.com/t-SERVICE_TUR.aspx
Turkey
KVK Service Centers
(For Manufacturer Warranties)
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Adana
Fuzuli Cad. Galleria Is Merkezi
No: 451 - 454
Seyhan, Adana 01120
Tel: +90 (322) 459-3074
Fax: +90 (322) 459-3075
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Ankara
Ziya Gokalp Cd. No:21
064204 Kizilay/ANKARA
Tel: +90 (312) 430-4343
Fax: +90 (312) 430-4344
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Antalya
Kizilsaray Mah. Yener Ulusoy Bulv.
Habaci Apt. No: 23 / B
Antalya 07020
Tel: (242) 243-2828
Fax: (242) 243-7260
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Bursa
Sakarya Mah. Uluyol Cad.
No: 63/A
Osmangazi, Bursa
Tel: +90 (224) 250-0040
Fax: +90 (224) 250-0042
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Istanbul / Kozyatagi Bireysel
Bayar Cad. Riza Cemberci Is Mrk.
No: 72 / 3-4
Kozyatagi, ?stanbul 34742
Tel: +90 (216) 445-5959
Fax: +90 (216) 445-5960
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Istanbul / Kozyatagi Kurumsal
Bayar Cad. Gulbahar Sok.
Ege Yildiz Sit. No: 15 / 36 - 37
Kozyatagi, Istanbul 34742
Tel: +90 (216) 372-5035
Fax: +90 (216) 372-4908
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Istanbul / Bakirkoy
Zuhuratbaba Mah.
Zuhuratbaba Cad. No: 7
Tel: +90 (212) 660-5959
Fax: +90 (212) 660-5960
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Izmir
Sair Esref Bulvari
No: 6 / D
Cankaya, Izmir
Tel: +90 (232) 489-5959
Fax: +90 (232) 446-8679
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Trabzon
Cumhuriyet Mah. Nemlioglu Cemal Sok.
(Trabzon Sehir Klubu araligi)
Ziya bey Sitesi A-Blok No: 16/1
Trabzon
Tel: +90 (462) 321-0321
Fax: +90 (462) 322-3696
K.V.K. Teknik Servis Erzurum
Karakose Mah. Cennet Cesme Sok.
Lalapasa Is Merkezi No:7
Yakutiye, Erzurum
Tel: +90 (442) 234-3553
Fax: +90 (442) 234-9355
You're doing a lot of research for us for free here, Richard?
Hate to disappoint you, but K.V.K. does not import or provide support for imate phones in Turkey. I was at their Ankara office two months ago and they didn't carry (or import) a simple battery pack for my k-jam!
In fact, they were pretty clueless when I showed them the phone and the battery pack I was looking for; they had never seen it before and they did not carry that manufacturers (imate) equipment.
Nice try though!
head to www.pdaden.com for a spare battery pack.
did you really purchase your i-mate from KVK? If not, they do have the right for not replacing your battery..
I've already ordered and received my battery pack, and also a 2 GB mini SD card, from an overseas supplier. I just went to KVK to order first, upon hearing that they "imported" imates into Turkey.
Like I said, they had no clue what I was talking about, and said they did not carry that phone model, that they did not import imates into Turkey.
Of course I did not purchase my imate from KVK either :lol: