8GB SD card - Oh yes, thats sweet! - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Accessories

Here:-
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,47615
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Here:-
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,47615
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I so wanted that NOT to be an April Fools Joke.... my 20Gb iRiver died recently, so I've been using the spare half meg on my 1Gb card to play music via my Exec.... an 8Gb card would be perfect!

I've only just bought my 4Gb and they bring out a newer toy :wink:
I bet its a bit pricey though - plus I haven't yet used half of my 4Gb card, so I'll leave it a while myself

Use swelldisk v1.3
I did and I doubled my 2 Gig card up to almost 4 Gig without any loss off speed
Works great!
Gr Rene

rene01 said:
Use swelldisk v1.3
I did and I doubled my 2 Gig card up to almost 4 Gig without any loss off speed
Works great!
Gr Rene
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Would you happen to know how swell disk work? Very expensive! http://www.smartphone.net/ppcw/software_detail.asp?id=1467

At first i thought it was a kind of compression, but it isn't because i don't notice any influance at the speed in writing/reading.
I gues it is a kind of Algorithm. (not sure how to spell thiss, but i think you know what I mean).
You have to remember it is only working in your device where it is installed.
If you install this in your Mobile device and put your card in a cardreader on your pc you lose the benefit of the program. (for just that moment).
If you put it back in your Mobile device it will be twice as big again.
With other words, in a cardreader your card will work as normally, you can read/write and exchange file's between your Pc and your Mobile deive without any problems.
The only thing you will notice is that your card will have the normal capacity because the software isn't there.

What happens when you have exceeded the actual capacity of the SD Card? For example, I have a 2GB SD card with Swell Disk running, if I fill my SD card with 2.5GB worth of movies then tried to read the content on my computer. What happens to the content? Would I loose the stored videos if I put it back in my Universal?

I have to check that one out.
Didn't tried it yet..

And how about it ?

rene01 said:
I have to check that one out.
Didn't tried it yet..
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Um... so does it work?

Swelldisk has to do on the fly compressing/decompressing, I don't believe there is any other way.
This also mean that:
- you can't really use compressed files on your card in for instance reader on PC without additional SW
- the actuall gain in storage will depend on type of files on your card, so allready compressed files like video, jpg's will result in no actuall gain.
So you can't really put 2,5Gb of video on 2Gb card because the divx or wmv is allready highly compressed...
One more thing, judging by other forums, swelldisk is actually a scam, so it looks it doesn't even do compression.

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1GB Secure Digital Card - What to put on it?

I'm just curious what all you 1GB SD card owners put on it when used with the XDA 1/2.
I ordered mine a few days ago for £94 inc delivery from NYC on eBay. It arrives tomorrow.
If I can't think of anything amazing I'm probably going to fill it up with MP3s, but these seems a bit of a waste of a 'Pocket PC'.
I've got a GPS unit and TomTom 3, so I've allocated 100mb for the UK map...
I've got a further 150ish mb of apps and games from my old SD card that I'll probably keep....
So that leaves 750mb...
But wait, I've still got the 250mb SD card it replaced, so I've still got 1GB to fill...
Suggestions please!
I've got:
1. Some games
2. Home videos made by XDA II Camera
3. Movies
4. TV Shows
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I'm just curious what all you 1GB SD card owners put on it when used with the XDA 1/2.
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Suggestions please!
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I have on my card:
- TomTom D-A-CH (256MByte)
- Wikipedia, complete (!)
- several eBooks, including some law books
- from time to time a few DVD rips (from DVDs I bought!), to watch during a train ride for example
- a few nice pictures
- MP3, of course
But I find it actually quite useful to leave a few hundred meg free, so I can use the card to transport data from here to there if necessary
Cheers
Daniel
All that space makes you wish XDA2 had USB 2 thats for sure!!!
How is the experience with read/write speed on these 1GB SD cards??
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=52965#52965
I have some problems with my 256MB SD from Kingston in combination with TomTom3 (on SD: maps and 1 extra POI file activated makes TomTom3 freeze when the data-transfer rate gets behind to the needs of TomTom)
All that space makes you wish XDA2 had USB 2 thats for sure!!!
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Can anyone confirm that the Transcend 4GB 150x SD Card works

Hi,
I was reading a thread on the 4GB SD Cards and am still unsure if the 4GB Transcend 150x SD Card works on the O2 Exec/Universal/Dopod 900? I would like to confirm with someone who has used this SD card in their Exec/Universal.
According to the Transcend Tech Support, they replied... "First of all, thank you for considering Transcend product. O2 series support SD memory up to 2GB.(Please refer to the website for compatibility list)
http://www.transcendusa.com/Support/Search/index.asp .f you have any other question, please feel free to let us know"
I've looked at their site and the stated max size supported is 2GB... This is confusing as other people have mentioned it kindof working..
Would love to know before I jump out and buy it!
Cheers!
RE
There're some discussions here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd
I bought this card and used for about 2 weeks in my jasjar without any problems. I'm now using/testing in my dopod 818 pro /jamin and again no problems thus far. The size is awesome.
Mike
I've used that card in my XDA Exec for a month or so and had no problems whatsoever. The only catch is that the photo camera app won't save photos and videos to it, giving you an error when you try.
Now I've moved it to my Axim. I'm using a 1GB card on my Exec and the photos can be saved to the memory card without problems.
It is so cool,Without any problem.......Work very well with my Qtek9000~~~~
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
cktlcmd said:
Yes, it works, but on my device, the camera application refuse to store my pictures and movies to it. So in the end, I returned mine and bought a 2GB SD Card which works quite well.
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Thanks all for the replies... Just wondering if what everyone said about putting 2GB of stuff on the 4GB card, then leaving less than 2GB free, the the camera app will work is true or not?
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
makuk said:
Not sure if I should take the risk or should I just get a 2GB card instead... :?
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It is OK to take the risk, as long as you research if you can return it and get a refund if all does not go well.
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
foxnolds said:
I've been using a TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card in my Jasjar for 3 days now. I have not encounted any problems.
4GB is a great size. 16GB would be better.. :lol:
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Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
cowoktajir said:
Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
foxnolds said:
cowoktajir said:
Have you test saving pictures and movies on to this TOP RAM 4GB SD card?? pictures taken from camera application I mean..
If you have done that and no problems arise, then it's the SD card brand issue. which means Transcends SD card don't work as well as Topram don HTC Universal
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Yes I just set Camera to save to Storage Card, took a couple of 2MB pictures - saved as 208K, and a short Video.
They were saved in \Storage Card\my documents\My Pictures and in \Storage Card\my documents\My Videos respectively.
Uploaded them to PC via Active$tink, and viewed them. No Problems.
So the TOPRAM 4GB 150x SD Card is OK on my iMate Jasjar.
Any other tests required?
P.S. I bought this on ebay with a free bundled USB 2.0 SD Card Reader that also works with this 4GB SD Card...
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How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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makuk said:
How much free space did you have on your 4GB card before you took the photos/video?
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About 400MB Free Space at the time. Do you think that has a bearing?
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Yes that sound like it has a bearing... According to the discussion on http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37544&highlight=4gb+sd. If you have more than 2GB of free space on your SD Card, then the camera app will not work. I think that you will have the same problem with your 4GB SD Card as others brands 4GB SD Card.
I don't know if this has been said yet, but I think I might know what's causing the trouble.
2GB = 2.048MB = 2.097.152 KB = 2.147.483.648 Bytes
A DWORD (32-bit number, used in loads of windows apps) can handle up to
2^32 = 4.294.967.296, which SHOULD be enough
However, if the number is treated as signed (means it can be positive and negative), one of the bits is used to keep track of the sign, and thus the maximum becomes:
2^31 = 2.147.483.648
If you go over that, the number will be negative.
What I think that's happening is that the camera app calls something to get the free space, gets a DWORD, treats it signed, and thus if you have more than 2GB free, it thinks it's a negative number and will thus not allow you to shoot more pictures
The fix is simple: Get more than 4GB and the sign will probably change to positive again Downside, once have less than 4GB but more than 2GB free it'll show the same symptons
Just kidding
Anyway, as I see it, there might be two fixes:
- An app that keeps a file on your card, and keeps it at a size so that you have just under 2GB free.
- A patch for the camera to either fix the signed-ness, or hook into the API and return 1.99GB if the free size exceeds that.
Unfortunately, I don't have a 4GB Card *yet*, so I can't look into it
I'll see if I can somehow fake a filesystem with more than 2GB free, else you'll have to look at vijay55 or someone else nicely
I might buy a 4GB card, but then again, I might decide not to because of these compatibility issues :/
RE
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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FOSA said:
Tested the 4GB 150X TRANSCEND SD card at the shop and confirmed
that picture/video cannot be stored on my QTEK9000
Anybodey knows if SANDISK (if any) brand works?
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Might want to read my post just one before yours
I highly doubt it's a problem with Transcend as other apps and the OS itself works perfectly with it, I think it's the fact that it crosses the 2GB boundary of free space and thus the Camera ****s up
How about partioning the SD? If you partioned it to half the size of the the 4GB you would have 2 2GB parts minus the space you always loose on SD cards...
Hmm I saw that was also mentioned here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=214020#214020
Hi All,
Just to let you know. I bought the Transcend 4GB 150x SD Card today for my O2 Exec phone. As expected everything works except the camera app if you store photo/videos to storage card when you have more than 2GB of data free. I have therefore put over 2GB of files on the card leaving only 1.8GB free at the moment and heh presto the camera app works. (as everyone has been saying!).
Well I'm chuffed I have a working 4GB SD Card now!
Only issue is the SD Card access seems to be slow. This seems to be the case for any SD Card I use in my O2 Exec (512MB, 1GB 60x, 4GB 150x). Anyway of speeding things up? Registry hack??? Pocket Mechanic states that it's only 0.16mb/s!
Also another issue was the card is not recognised by my laptops built-in SD Card reader! Luckily I have a external one which worked ok! Anyone know how to solve my SD Card Reader issue? I've emailed Benq tech support hoping they have a new driver or something like that. But no reply yet.
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Hi makuk,
Which Pocket Mechanic version are you using on your EXEC? Is it Wm5 compatible?

Which 4 or 2GB SD, micro SD, or mini Sd for XDA IIs?

I need to buy an external memory card for my XDA IIs and I don't know which one is the best one (I can see that the SD is the cheapest one.) Are SD, micro SD, or mini SD different in using with my XDA IIs? What about size? I don't see any post mentioning about 4gb. Has anyone tried 4gb SD? Thank you very much.
Use search button. Subject was discussed multiple times, even this week (on WM6 forum).
here are some pictures
http://content.answers.com/main/content/img/CDE/_COMPSD.JPG
SD cards .....
don buy sandisk's 4gigs they wont work !
don buy sandisk's 4gigs they wont work !
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This should actually read:
Don't buy SDHC cards, they will not work.
TopRAM makes a 4 gig non-SDHC card that does work (I picked mine up on ebay).
But yes, this subject has been discussed quite a bit already. Search the blue angle forum, you will find the threads on it.
I bought a 4GB Transcend SD and it works. However, it doesn't work directly in my laptop XP Pro. Thanks for all of your answers.
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I bought a 4GB Transcend SD and it works. However, it doesn't work directly in my laptop XP Pro. Thanks for all of your answers.
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Really? That's a new one on me.
At least it works on your phone, enjoy!
One thing I've noticed is that the phone is slower when doing any R/W operations on a 4 gig 'partition'. When I split my card into a pair of 2 gig 'partitions', the phone saw 'Storage Card" and "Storage Card2" and seemed 'run' faster when working with the card.
It may just be me. If you notice similar results, post to the forum.
Personally, I'd like to know that I'm not nuts.
I have a Connect3D 4GB SD card and it works great.
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One thing I've noticed is that the phone is slower when doing any R/W operations on a 4 gig 'partition'. When I split my card into a pair of 2 gig 'partitions', the phone saw 'Storage Card" and "Storage Card2" and seemed 'run' faster when working with the card.
It may just be me. If you notice similar results, post to the forum.
Personally, I'd like to know that I'm not nuts.
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how do you partition memory cards? what program did you use?
zhenius said:
how do you partition memory cards? what program did you use?
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I ended up doing it under Linux using fdisk. I tried a few windows programs and none of them would do it.
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Really? That's a new one on me.
At least it works on your phone, enjoy!
One thing I've noticed is that the phone is slower when doing any R/W operations on a 4 gig 'partition'. When I split my card into a pair of 2 gig 'partitions', the phone saw 'Storage Card" and "Storage Card2" and seemed 'run' faster when working with the card.
It may just be me. If you notice similar results, post to the forum.
Personally, I'd like to know that I'm not nuts.
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It is a 4GB but I think only around 3.7GB can be read. Well, I split them into 3 parts. The main one, which is for programs, is 500MB. The other two, which are used for storage, are divided equally. And yes, it runs faster.
so i cant partition in windows? thats bad.
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It is a 4GB but I think only around 3.7GB can be read. Well, I split them into 3 parts. The main one, which is for programs, is 500MB. The other two, which are used for storage, are divided equally. And yes, it runs faster.
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Oh good, I'm not nuts, at least on this.
So does it show up as Storage Card, Storage Card2, and Storage Card3?
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Oh good, I'm not nuts, at least on this.
So does it show up as Storage Card, Storage Card2, and Storage Card3?
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Yes. It is like you have three SD cards.

Sd card upgrade problem

So I recently ordered a 16 GB micro sd card off Amazon since I've been using my MT4G for music and leaving my ipod at home, and wanted to bump up my capacity. Anyway, it's a Patriot Class 4 card, and I'm having some trouble. I inserted it into the phone, and selected 'format sd card' from settings, did it, but when I mounted sd card via usb to transfer files, it was going SO SLOW. Like, 50 minutes to transfer 200 MB or so. So...my question is, is there something I'm supposed to have done and didn't do? Or is it a bad card, or what? Because my 8 GB stock card was only class 4, and was MUCH faster.
Thanks for any insight!
Try using windows to format it using the default allocation size. I have seen some talk in the "32gig class 10" thread that doing this really sped up the transfer speeds of the cards over what you get when letting the phone format it.
Good luck.
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Try using windows to format it using the default allocation size. I have seen some talk in the "32gig class 10" thread that doing this really sped up the transfer speeds of the cards over what you get when letting the phone format it.
Good luck.
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Thanks for the help. I'm really unsure about what to do, been searching and can't really figure out if the card is bad or if I haven't formatted it correctly. Unfortunately, I'm on a macbook, so don't use Windows. Usually, there is a mac equivalent for anything windows can do, so I'll see what my options are. It's just driving me crazy, because it'll take DAYS to transfer all my music lol. Not sure why no one else has jumped in to help me out. Either no one knows anything about it, or it's such an obvious answer that I'm embarrassing myself. Either way, I'd love to hear which it is so I know how f-ed I am.
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Thanks for the help. I'm really unsure about what to do, been searching and can't really figure out if the card is bad or if I haven't formatted it correctly. Unfortunately, I'm on a macbook, so don't use Windows. Usually, there is a mac equivalent for anything windows can do, so I'll see what my options are. It's just driving me crazy, because it'll take DAYS to transfer all my music lol. Not sure why no one else has jumped in to help me out. Either no one knows anything about it, or it's such an obvious answer that I'm embarrassing myself. Either way, I'd love to hear which it is so I know how f-ed I am.
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try doing a full format instead of a quick format with windows.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00413PF6G
I ordered that card last week and had the same issue you had. Max of like 2mbs transfer whether I mounted it through the MyTouch 4G USB, Included adapter or my USB card reader. I tried the panasonic formatting tool and half the time it would kill my card reader or just fail. Messed with it for like 4 days and couldn't find anything that helped. Must be a incompatibility, It was returned and I just received a Transcend 16gb Class 4. Transfer average 4-6mb depending if it's a large file or tons of smaller files.
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So I recently ordered a 16 GB micro sd card off Amazon since I've been using my MT4G for music and leaving my ipod at home, and wanted to bump up my capacity. Anyway, it's a Patriot Class 4 card, and I'm having some trouble. I inserted it into the phone, and selected 'format sd card' from settings, did it, but when I mounted sd card via usb to transfer files, it was going SO SLOW. Like, 50 minutes to transfer 200 MB or so. So...my question is, is there something I'm supposed to have done and didn't do? Or is it a bad card, or what? Because my 8 GB stock card was only class 4, and was MUCH faster.
Thanks for any insight!
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I've done alot of testing for sd cards and android because i had similar issues with my patriot SD card and I've found that a 32K cluster sizes gives great speeds. Only time you really need smaller is if u are using a actual hard disk or if your average file size are around 3-10 Kb but with mp3 and most other files being around 3-10Mb you lose alot of and speed as a result of having smaller clusters.
Now say u use maverick maps and have cached over several million tiles all of which are 1kb each then use a smaller cluster size to save space or those millions of 1k tiles could fill a entire 8 gig card as opposed to actual size of 700Mb but it will take a horrendously long time to transfer to those card. so its a trade off.
So bottom line use a 32k allocation table. It will give you good optimization of space and speed.
I have also found that formatting the sd card with the phone rather than with my mac also causes slow transfer rates so I format all my sd cards on my mac (or pc) before putting them in my phone. Transfer rates are much quicker that way.
I have Kingston 16gb class 10 and I would only average 1-2mb/s when copying files over.
I reformatted in via Windows to a few different cluster sizes and did some testing with my phone.
For my usage I went with a 64k cluster size. My copy speeds to the card average 13mb/s. I don't really store small files on the card so I'm not worried about excessive space use right now.

Anyone using Adoptable Storage? All my old cards are too slow...

My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
From my understanding there aren't any cards at the moment quick enough to serve the role efficiently. Just use it as an external storage until faster cards become available.
I was about to make a post concerning the best Micro SD cards do Moto Z Play, thanks for bringing that up!
I have a 128gb Samsung EVO micro sd, class 10, but it's 48mb/s and I got the same message you did, saying the card isn't fast enough and that the overall apps and system speeds could be slower.
I thought class 10 micro sd's were among the fastest and the Moto Z Play wouldn't have any trouble using it as an extension of it's internal storage, but as a matter of fact, there are indeed faster micro sds. After researching a little bit, I found Samsung EVOs with 80mb/s transfer speeds (the 48mb/s are colored orange, as the 80mb/s are little green ones):
I still haven't bought one, but I browsed through some forums and videos and people with the same problem said 80mb/s seems to do the trick and they didn't get any message complaining about the micro sd speed.
f you want even faster micro sds, try the Sandisk Extreme, with speeds up to 90mb/s:
I have to get a faster micro SD anyway, as soon as i do i'll post here my experience with it.
Hope this helps,
Cheers!
While running the adopted 50 MB card AFT fails on most copy operations.
I am afraid ? that 2 times faster may not be enough for the already challenged ATF, buggy as it is already.
aviwdoowks said:
My cards say class 10 and 50 MB/sec. Android says they are too slow.
How fast of a one do I need?
I don't want to buy a 128 card just to find out I need root to tweak the buffer or that it doesn't work that well.
I posted a screenshot. Adoptable is the same as storage, sdcard, 3dots, format as internal
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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How can you live with all those notifications? My OCD prevents me from seeing so many icons in the notification bar
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Just 12 not including the statusbar pro, which I cannot live without.
Better?
Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Using this card with no issues. Formatted as internal storage. SanDisk Extreme 128GB microSDXC UHS-I Card with Adapter (SDSQXVF-128G-GN6MA). Got it at Amazon for 60 bucks. It is quite speedy as far as I can tell.
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Thanks
Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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Do you play large music files (flac or dsf) ?
I do and getting them on such a card is via my Mac using Android File Transfer or from a SATA drive using OTG. On KK AFT did not work on large transfers. It has not been updated in many years. The OTG / drive method should be reliable but not with my 50 mb, slow card.
To boot, on the negative side of using adopted cards, you cannot pull the card in the case of a data wipe.
I will be abandoning this method.
Thanks to all for sharing!
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In my use case, adaptable storage doesn't make much sense on devices with 32gb or more of internal storage. Unless you really need that much space for app installs, the limitations outweigh the benefits. My typical app load is around 8 to 10gb, so I have somewhere around another 10 available on the MZP, as long as I pull all my media into an external card. This way I know all my apps are using fast internal storage, and I don't have to wonder if a widget is available or not. And I can pull the card and use it in a PC or other device.
Now my Moto E 2 (with 8gb onboard) is a different story. But I use a hybrid card in that - 20gb as adopted and the other 40 as external. May consider this as an option when I get around to getting a card for the MZP
I took a 32gb card and combined it. It warned me too. After reading up on the function, Android evaluates what to put where. Having the card separate made it less useful only good for photos and video really. This way app data can be buffered there. Things like cloud services buffer files internally. Netflix now uses SD but that was an issue too.
Bought a new micro SD for the Moto Z Play and it works perfectly with no warnings about it's speed being slow!
It's a Samsung PRO 64 GB microSDXC Card, with 90 MB/s reading speed and 80 MB/s writing speed.
As you insert the card and format it to be part of the phone's internal storage, the system doesn't complain about the card being too slow or that it'll affect the overall app and system speed.
It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
Cheers! =)
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It's perfectly reliable for installing apps outside the device storage and keep the desired speed and all that good stuff.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
So I am left to getting large music files from an external drive over OTG.
It is so much more reliable to drop the file right to the SD and move the card to the phone.
If the adopted card fails , you need a data wipe or an update screws it up, you have a bad phone day!
aviwdoowks said:
I agree but for me having a Mac I never want to use ATF it is buggy.
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Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
tag68 said:
It's a microSD. For these kind of cards it's quite usual that there is some percentage that fail after some time. Some cards only last for months, other years. It seems to be independent of manufacturer.
My personal advice: Whatever you store on a micro SD card, have a backup. I'd rather not use it for internal storage if it's not necessary to do so. It's slower than internal memory anyway. This is a personal opinion, you'll have or see different opinions for sure.
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tag68 said:
Me too!
I'm allowing the access via Windows filesharing (still OSX 10.6.8), and then access some drive on the computer using LAN plugin of Total Commander for Android. Works like a charm! It is a bit slower, but very convenient not having the need to put card or, put card in etc.
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Is that only on snow?
I do have a snow partition for older programs.
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
Tell me more please, cause I hate ATF soooo much. Why does Android drop it's ball like this?
aviwdoowks said:
Is that only on snow?
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I'm quite sure that file sharing via smb: is available on nearly all versions of Windows and OSX.
You may start Windows file sharing in network settings of OSX. Then you can give access to some drive in Finder.
If you google a bit, you will find help I guess.
aviwdoowks said:
So do I need to buy FC and the plugin?
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Buy? Total Commander is free of cost, including all necessary plugins. For Windows file sharing (smb) you need the TC LAN plugin.
Edit: By "a bit slower" I meant because it usually is being used via WLAN in your intranet
Just wanted to post back here - finally got around to picking up an sd card for the MZP. Went with Samsung evo 128gb, $40 on Amazon. Since it's got plenty of space, I decided to go the same route that I did with the moto e, and do hybrid storage. Formatted 25% adopted and 75% external. Gives me an additional 30gb internal space and 90gb external storage.
Device sees the storage space fine. A couple apps I've messed with so far (Netflix and Google play music) can save to external fine, but don't recognize the additional available space in "internal", or at last don't report it as available.
I don't plan to move any apps that I use frequently or anything that I use widgets from to adopted, as the advertised max read speed is only 20mb/s. Haven't actually tested yet. But I did move a couple low use apps over. Reported storage space on both internal and adopted updated correctly (an issue I've had in the past).
So far, so good.

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