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WM2005 on a Blue Angel

I have a Blue Angel as mentioned in my signature and I have what I believe are all of the files needed to try and install WM2005 Build 14326.0.0.0 onto it.
Here are the WM2005 files I currently have:
HimaUpgradeUt - 512KB - 5/5/2004 4:54PM
nk.nbf - 32,769KB - 3/21/2005 9:08AM
And the following came from my existing ROM:
ms_.nbf - 16,833KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
radio_.nbf - 4,097KB - 2/3/2005 7:45PM
I also have a good copy of ActiveSync Beta 4.0.0 and have all of the instructions that were made in the main WM2005 post for installing on the Himalaya and I'm assuming it should be the same for the Blue Angel.
My device info currently reads:
Model No: PH20A2
Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Version 4.21.1088 Build 14132
ROM Version: 1.36.00 WWE
ROM Date: 01/13/05
Radio Version: HA00_140
Protocol Version: AA3.3.301
ExtROM Version: 1.36.110 WWE
Hardware Version: 0041
This is what it came with out of the box, I have not installed the updated ROM Audiovox released the day the phone was released because I have never had a single problem and some people who upgraded reported problems and that some files were a day older than the version that shipped in the original ROM.
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Now my 1st question, the newest updated ROM installer package from Audiovox which was released 3/4/2005, has a different version of the upgrade utility, it's called "HaUpgradeUt - 424KB - 12/23/2004". The package it was included in from Audiovox's website was called "HA_SPCS_13600_113_00140_6600". Which upgrade utility is the best to use or does it not matter?
Now my 2nd question, has anyone yet tried this on a Blue Angel? Is there anyone here who really knows thier stuff who is willing to help me if I get lost or screwed up so I can be the Blue Angel WM2005 test pig?
Thanks!

hi
i have a pda2k with 1.33 rom and radio rom 1.08 and my cooked rom
i tried the upgrade but got the device authentication error.. tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.. the himupgrade starts the procedure and then stops after some time saying an error occured..
but you go ahead and try it..may be you will do something differently and will succeed..
note: i have tried the xda 2 SE rom and imate jam rom and almost tried the alpine rom on my pda2k.. there is nothing you cannot revert back from
just incase if you are curious what happened after the above roms..my device didnt boot.... no problem...just unplug the usb port of the cradle and run a wwe rom made for xda 2s or pda2k ...everything will work then!
good luck..
keep us posted!!!!

in the above post: i mean unplug usb then replug usb and then run the BAupgrade utility....
can you upload hte 1.36 rom you have??? does your device have wifi and camera???
thanks

zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...

your running the Verizon EVDO version of the the BlueAngel a CDMS 1xrt yada yada device. Most new ROM images are made for GSM phones then latter altered to talk to CDMA modules. In this case I think ot only would you not have a "good" experience but would warn against it. Second BlueAngel devices have OEM driver for the slide out keyboard. You will most likely loose for sure its use with this new OS. This is why the only devices it is worrking on right now are non-hardwired keyboard devices. Also there seems to be a notable diff in the hardare implimentation between HTC based devices. What software might work with one may not at all or damage another. Sorry for the down news but I think unless you have a keyboardless device I would not recomend playing with it. Just my 2 cents.
What you can do though is grab some of the elements (image files) from the new OS in other threads here, and overwrite the files on your device. Kind of like adding crome package or racing stripes. still the same car, just feel new :wink:

Thanks for the input. I'm running the Sprint version, not the Verizon one, same difference though pretty much, lol. 2.5G Vs. 1xrt and both have EV-DO, and then of course the frequency of the Verizon digital and Sprints PCS, but yeah both CDMA
I really couldn't care less about the keyboard, I don't even use it, never really have. Honestly, I work for CompUSA and if this thing gets buggered up I'll just exchange it out. I'm going to do a full backup tonight, hard reset, dump the existing ROM and then start the process just for grins to see how it goes. As long as it's not dog slow, text messaging works and email along with voice functions I'll be happy as heck. It'll atleast be fun to screw with and then I can always go back later.
I'm still unclear on some things like the country code and stuff that was mentioned in the other posts. Once I know I have all the facts and all of the files I'll give it a try and post back here. I'm off Sunday, Monday, & Tuesday so I'll have 3 days straight to play. I have to say my only real concern is it working with the CDMA radio which hopefully it will since I have a good copy of the latest Radio ROM for it...

hi 92GTA
yeah were on the same page..
wm2005 i can share is the original post..and i think page 10 has the answer (im not entirely sure though the post has now 17 pages!!!)

@ 92GTA : can you share this 2k5 ROM ? can you upload to a ftp and give us a link

bad :
read properly : he WANTS to install WM2005 on his IIs.
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
It's like putting diesel in a petrol car..things will screw up...
The 2005 upgrade currently available is only meant for XDA II devices, not IIs or II mini...or whatever. Hardware differences will render your efforts rather futile save for a massive hack.. Sigh.

indecided said:
Why should you people go around risking your devices like this?
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dude what the hell is indecided..its either undecided or indecisive
the latter being you :twisted:

already tried this guys, it doesn't work, the bootloader cannot read the CE image, nd therefore hinders the device useless, but i managed to flash back to 1.31 and all is working now.

Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.

hmmm...
Has anyone found a way to get WM5 to work on a blue angel??
I am new to windows ce,
however i have written a disassembler for windows ce arm executables
(dunno if it is of any use for this?)
and i am not affraid to develop more
if there is anyone who has any idea how to go about making wm5 work
i'd be glad to help
(ps i have an imate pda2k)

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Bobi1 said:
Hi Guys,
Im here with the same question,,
Can we really upgrade XDA IIs to WM 2005... or anyone haas done it.
someone said we shouldnt do it,, can I ask why?
Thanking you for your time.
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you can find all the upgrade information at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=138733#138733

............... ??

92GTA said:
zohaer21 said:
tried it with the explained patch and the other method in original wm2005 post.
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Where is the post for this "explained patch method" you are referring to? Also I'm considering the post titled "Microsoft Windows Mobile Version 5.0 I can share" as the original WM2005 post so we are on the same page in our thinking on that one.
The ROM is a free download from Audiovox, I guess I could upload it though.
I'm assuming the BAupgrade utility is on this site for download?
My device does have the camera but no WiFi, it has EV-DO instead. It's a CDMA phone, not a GSM phone...
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Sign me up too, CMDA but my has 1x instead of EV-DO. I would be willing to try it.

Where on Audiovox is the 2005 rom?. All I've ever seen are the 2003se updates.

Vodafone VPX rom wanted

I've had a look around the FTP but to no avail.
Is there a WWE VPX rom around anywhere, or a link to download one from the voda site? I've tried looking but not found one yet.
Device is PH20B currently on 1.42, 1.13 and O2 ext rom from their latest release.

looking for the same thing for months, no luck either

Is it possible to steal the theme then from the VPA ROM? The cool red and silver one.
What I have done is use the T-Mob 1.42 ROM with the VPA Ext Rom.
The main language was english, but anything that was installed by the ext rom became german - so not much use to me.

yep
did the same thing, does not work well
Lordao

Here you go guys, The Vodafone theme

I've got a German VPX rom. As I'm a lazy muppet can anyone host this for me / walk me through uploading it to the FTP? It's no longer on their site.
Richard

I'm searching for the newst ROM file for the Vodafone VPx..
Rightnow I have
Rom version: 1.22.00 WWE
Rome Date: 10/22/04
Radio version: 1.06.00
Protocol version: 1337.38
ExtROM version: 1.22.155 WWE
I assume it's too old ROM, Where to find the new one?
Should the one for PDA2K or Qtek9090 ROM work on my device??
Waiting for reply

Vodafone WWE Ext ROM..
Downloaded the Vodafone skin posted above, thanks
However does anyone have the UK Vodafone Ext ROM, or even a WWE one from somewhere else? I assume the company specific Ext ROM adds different functionality other than a skin...
Aim is to use most current ROM/Radio on O2 XDA IIs with a vodafone Ext ROM as I'll be using a Vodafone SIM... noticed a German Ext ROM for Vodafone VPAIII dated 140206 on the FTP site, can this be switched to English, and is it compatible with the O2 XDAIIs etc.?

Well a search gave me this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46603&highlight=voda*
The rom is old and not in the wiki list due to the fact nobody cared to add it even though its no the ftp site.

hmmm...
MDAIIIUser said:
Well a search gave me this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=46603&highlight=voda*
The rom is old and not in the wiki list due to the fact nobody cared to add it even though its no the ftp site.
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Yip, been there, seen that, but I dont kow how to extract the ext rom stuff from the .exe
So I did search, I did read, but I didn't know what the next step was, hence the reason for asking someone to upload an ext rom to the kitchen other than the GER versions...
OK, went back to the WIKI and now realise that all I need is the ms_.nbf file from the WWE version mentioned above :shock: :shock: The question now is, how can I install that with a 1.40/1.42 ROM?

Well you don't
The Ext rom conmsits of apps and patches that are made for a rom version.
The apps are no problem the patches are as they will over write the files that have most likely been updated in the new rom.
(As in BT stack in 1.22 ships as 1.xx in the rom,
got updated to 1.xy in the ext rom
and the rom 1.40 its now 1.yy.
Run the ext rom then you are back to 1.xy)
So if you want to have the same carrier related stuff on a none same carrier rom then you save the cabs of the ext rom before you upgrade.
As for the vodaphone thing, well we have had no ship roms in the 1.4x family and no wwe ext roms uploaded. So what ever you want to do you have yourself.
BA kitchen goes into that in more detail I know as I wrote it.

Almost there... (Thanks to the Wiki & Forum)!
OK, finally took the plunge...
O2 XDAIIs arrived yesterday, Rom 1.31... updated straight away to the O2 update from there site (available on this site Xda_IIs_Upgrade_v140242.exe) and all went well... I then added a Vodafone skin but that wasn't really good enough It meant I still had the O2 Active gubbins all over my PDA which is of course no use...
Long night ahead I thought... and I was right
I now have the 1.42 CE ROM with the 1.15 Radio ROM and a cooked version of the Vodafone German EXT_ROM with many of the items replaced with the most current items from the Kitchen!
I still have a few niggles... double entries of files etc such as Windows media player, album etc (1 GER, 1 WWE) but the GER ones crap out and the WWE ones work... all I need to do now is work out which bits are installed by what in the original stuff and I should be able to sort it...
I have one request... could someone please post the UK Vodaphone version of the CAB which sets up the Vodafone Live! stuff? my vodafone live is all screwed up and looking for German stuff...
I will keep you informed in a new thread as to how my continued conversion goes!
Thanks to all who have updated the forum/Wiki it has been no end of help and I have a hybrid set of roms, with a cooked ext_rom and fully functional WiFi/BT/GPRS/MMS witin 24 hrs of receiving my XDA and taking the plunge... major kudos to you all!
As MDAUSERIII says... read the Wiki, and all will become clear!

Try this http://www.vodafone-dataworld.co.uk/uploads/BA_VF_UK_14000_238_11300_Ship.exe

Nice link
How did you get to that file so I can post it to wiki.

Where'd you find that!?!?!
badgerboybadger said:
Try this http://www.vodafone-dataworld.co.uk/uploads/BA_VF_UK_14000_238_11300_Ship.exe
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Awesome link! D/Ling just now... then reflash (again!)
I'm now in a bit of a quandry... having finally got a data enabled device (BA as opposed to my mobile and Palm T3) I am now looking to use my data services more, but I have looked around for the best deals (I use PAYG) and it looks to be between O2 and Orange... the price of data on Vodafone is just too damned high...
I'l load this up and see how it goes first... thanks for your help

To which rom should I update my Dutch TMobile MDA pro?

Hi!
I really feel like a newbie when i read all the posts about all the different rom versions, so can someone give me some advice which rom i should use to upgrade to?
I have a dutch TMobile MDA pro, which is still at the default rom:
ROM: 1.12.42 WWE (8/23/05)
Radio: 1.00.02
extRom: 1.12.125 WWE
I am experiencing problems with spontaneous hangs (which might have to do with 3rd party software, but the device itself isnt exactly stable)
but also the radio often just loses signal, which i can only fix by rebooting...
I want to upgrade, but i don't want to spend toooo much time on it. Is there a rom that offers better stability which is easy to install and configure?
Regards,
Casper

Try updating to the latest I-Mate Jasjar ROM. Very stable and fast. I too use a lot of 3rd party applications and games. This is my 3rd day of not experiencing any problem without doing a soft reset in the morning.

I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released

ady said:
I prefer Orange ROM... both imate and orange are the same version though... only that Orange's ROM is released while Imate is still not released
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ady, what made you say the I-Mate ROM has not been released yet? It is true there is a test version which came 2 weeks earlier than the one I am using now which is NOT the test version. Just curious.
Another question please about the NEW Orange ROM. Is it true that the vibrate is always ON and you can't turn it OFF?

I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!

koesper said:
I did it!
last week i gathered my courage, downloaded the JasJar rom, found the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe tool, pressed install, drank a cup of coffee, and was finished!
It went flawlessly! And my T-Mobile MDA Pro has never run smoother!
I couldnt (and wouldnt) have done it without this forum, so thanks guys!
Now its just waiting until there is a new stable rom with A2DP on it, and then i'll upgrade again!
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I upgraded my mda pro to the latest t-mobile UK ROM straight out of the box. But even then I have the same problems with spontaneous hangs. And reading your success story I gathered all the files JASJAR_WWE_13076_164_10900_wwe_ship.exe and MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to upgrade to the JasJar rom myself. But as complete newbie who is affraid to mess things up, did you do anything else except unzipping the ROM update and copying the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe to that folder ? The reason why I am asking I read somewhere that you have to add [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 to the RUU.conf file.
Thanks in advance.

JASJAR rom works fine
My T-mobile mda pro NL arrived today and i almost immediately flashed it to Imate JASJAR firmware on the xda-developer ftp. I used the Universal_Upgrade_v1.30.68_radio_1.09.0.zip file which contains:
Rom 1.30.68 WWE
Radio 1.09.00
ExtROM 1.30.153
Protocol 42.42P8
and is dated at 08 february 2006.
This works fine and removes the ugly pink theme and adds some nice apps like skype after customizing. It also has an alternative contacts menu, which has skype integration. Pocket MSN (a not so nice app imho) is also included, although i use the new agile messenger beta.
The bootscreen mentions 'for testing only, not for sale' which might indicate that it is not a final (not sure though).

Thanks it works like a charm.
ROM 1.30.76 WWE
ROM date 20 february 2006
Radio 1.09.00
Protocol 42.42.P8
ExtROM 1.30.164 WWE

I'm using T-mobile UK version with 1.09 radio rom. This version INCLUDES the a2dp profiles, but no pushmail. You can use the blackberry connect software from german t-mobile site on the Universal. so you will have AND pushmail and A2DP.
http://www.pocketinfo.nl/artikel/5561
I think Imate rom is also a nice ROM.

Reading this topic en reading the instructions about bootloader, I have another question. In the instruction ist says to make a factory reset after loading the new ROM. Does this mean that all information in your MDA is wiped out and must be reloaded?

yes the machine is a complete naked beauty afterwards

T-mobile UK blocking MSN and other apps?

I recently got my MDA Pro, and it didnt have msn or outlook preinstalled (or anything else for that matter!).
I just tried installing Skype, and that didnt work, and i'm now wondering if t-mobile have deliberatley cripped the device in some way?
Either way, it's annoying, and i can't be bothered to pay $20 to download MSN mobile, when i should really have it pre-installed :/
If i install the latest T-mobile ROM, does that come pre-installed with those apps?
Can someone recommend me a decent fast ROM that would have all that included?
Thanks!

MDA pro and MSN
The latest rom at the T-Mo download site has Msn included, so get over ther and get it for free

Pooper said:
I recently got my MDA Pro, and it didnt have msn or outlook preinstalled (or anything else for that matter!).
I just tried installing Skype, and that didnt work, and i'm now wondering if t-mobile have deliberatley cripped the device in some way?
Either way, it's annoying, and i can't be bothered to pay $20 to download MSN mobile, when i should really have it pre-installed :/
Thanks!
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Try Agile Messenger. Works well enough.
$20 to d/l MSN Mobile? Good God.
With regards to Skype though, be careful:
T-Mobiles new web and walk unlimited tariffs are "not to be used for other activities such as modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony."

belfast-biker said:
Pooper said:
I recently got my MDA Pro, and it didnt have msn or outlook preinstalled (or anything else for that matter!).
I just tried installing Skype, and that didnt work, and i'm now wondering if t-mobile have deliberatley cripped the device in some way?
Either way, it's annoying, and i can't be bothered to pay $20 to download MSN mobile, when i should really have it pre-installed :/
Thanks!
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Try Agile Messenger. Works well enough.
$20 to d/l MSN Mobile? Good God.
With regards to Skype though, be careful:
T-Mobiles new web and walk unlimited tariffs are "not to be used for other activities such as modem access for computers, internet based video/audio streaming services, peer to peer file sharing, internet based video download and internet based telephony."
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Which rules out, oh, 75% of what I'd like to do with an unlimited tariff. How companies get awawy using the word unlimited in advertising is beyond me. My company, O2, is no better - our unlimited data tariffs is limited to 1Gb. I could do that in a few days. Our unlimited talk tariff is limited to 10'0000hours. Who's gonna do that? Why even muck around with an artificial limit?

Re: MDA pro and MSN
brnoblade said:
The latest rom at the T-Mo download site has Msn included, so get over ther and get it for free
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Where is the latest T-Mobile UK ROMs? I've been trying to get it for a while, looking at two diferent Iris.uk sites, both say it's due Jan 06, but neither have it :-(
Please can someone help :?:

I've just gone to the IRIS site and downloaded apparently the newest ROM for T-Mobile UK. Which it states is the factory version.
On running the update it tells me that this will upgrade me to:
CE Image Version - 1.20.32
Extended Image Version - 1.20.120
Radio Image Version - 1.06.00
But it tells me that my CURRENT version is:
CE Image Version - 1.12.42 - NEWER
Extended Image Version - 1.12.126 - NEWER
Radio Image Version - 1.00.02 - OLDER
What do I do?! What's better newer CE Image/Extended Image, or a newer Radio Image version??

jmdrizen said:
I've just gone to the IRIS site and downloaded apparently the newest ROM for T-Mobile UK. Which it states is the factory version.
On running the update it tells me that this will upgrade me to:
CE Image Version - 1.20.32
Extended Image Version - 1.20.120
Radio Image Version - 1.06.00
But it tells me that my CURRENT version is:
CE Image Version - 1.12.42 - NEWER
Extended Image Version - 1.12.126 - NEWER
Radio Image Version - 1.00.02 - OLDER
What do I do?! What's better newer CE Image/Extended Image, or a newer Radio Image version??
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Was that UNI_TMUK_12032_120_10600_Ship, from: http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_pro.html ??
I think my ROM is from the early jurassic era? :
ROM Version: 1.12.42 WWE
ROM Date: 08/23/05
Radio Version: 1.00.02
Protocol Version: 42.33.P8
ExtROM Version:1.12.126 WWE

Pooper said:
I think my ROM is from the early jurassic era? :
ROM Version: 1.12.42 WWE
ROM Date: 08/23/05
Radio Version: 1.00.02
Protocol Version: 42.33.P8
ExtROM Version:1.12.126 WWE
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Nope, that's the same version as mine... well yeah, it is old, but all but the Radio version is NEWER than this update that T-Mobile have on their site... I'm confused...... :-\

Weird :/
Well can someone please put me/us out of my/our misery and confirm or post a link to the newest T-mob ROM? (is there a specific UK version?).
Also could someone list some major differences with the newest ROM and my current!? I'm a little baffled as to why most of the decent apps (Outlook/MSN) Aren't installed on the MDA by default :? (I'm assuming it's because they want you to TXT instead of instant message, and use THEIR e-mail service instead of 3rd parties?)
Anyway, i'm REALLY anxious to update my ROM, thanks guys

Http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/webnwalksoftware/
that is the latest supported version of software
they are bringing out webnwalk option pro that will allow 2gb uasge and no restrictions on apps using service, coming first of may

Is anyone currently using this ROM, if so, does it have MSN & Outlook on it?
(I'm assuming it'll already have the correct t-mob GPRS/3G network config?)
Thanks again.

I am running that Rom, and I can confirm that it does have MSN, but as I am using Pocket Informant I don't know about Outlook

brnoblade said:
I am running that Rom, and I can confirm that it does have MSN, but as I am using Pocket Informant I don't know about Outlook
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Cool, i'm going to install it later then
Just one last thing, does anyone know how i can backup all my txts and mms messages? theres no option in active sync, and i cant seem to find them anywhere when i browse the folders :/
Thanks!

Hi
Thats a pain... I am on a pre 'unlimited' web 'n' walk tariff with 12 months left to run :-( !!
T-Mobiles' latest rom is dark ages stuff. I wonder if they will ever bother to update it?
Nigel

veletron said:
Hi
Thats a pain... I am on a pre 'unlimited' web 'n' walk tariff with 12 months left to run :-( !!
T-Mobiles' latest rom is dark ages stuff. I wonder if they will ever bother to update it?
Nigel
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Gah this is driving me insane now! I can't decide what friggin' ROM to install :/

jmdrizen said:
I've just gone to the IRIS site and downloaded apparently the newest ROM for T-Mobile UK. Which it states is the factory version.
On running the update it tells me that this will upgrade me to:
CE Image Version - 1.20.32
Extended Image Version - 1.20.120
Radio Image Version - 1.06.00
But it tells me that my CURRENT version is:
CE Image Version - 1.12.42 - NEWER how is this newer than 1.20.32 ?
Extended Image Version - 1.12.126 - NEWER
Radio Image Version - 1.00.02 - OLDER
What do I do?! What's better newer CE Image/Extended Image, or a newer Radio Image version??
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Not sure what you are getting at ? isn't "20" newer than "12" ?

zoidster said:
Not sure what you are getting at ? isn't "20" newer than "12" ?
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Zoidster.... completely correct!! I misread my screen, don't know why I didn't pick it up when I copied it to the forum!!!
Updating my ROM now Cheers everyone!

The ROM update is great, it's added:
- MSN Messenger/Hotmail with Pocket MSN
- Lock Today plug-in, which gives you a keylock like the menu * on Nokias.
As far as Outlooks concerned, I don't know what people mean, it has the Outlook Email, that it used to have before in the Messenging Section.
Well worth an upgrade!

ive just got back from the tmobile shop after picking up a mda pro. The sales assistant advisd me on coming here to find the latest firmware/software update as it will then run tons faster.
Ive been looking around but as im abit of a newbie i dont have a clue really(
im just gonna try the latest update on t mobiles website
He had a a imate firmware on his one as he showed his own personal one to me and it was great

Gavin01 said:
Ive been looking around but as im abit of a newbie i dont have a clue really(
im just gonna try the latest update on t mobiles website
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Http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/webnwalksoftware/ was great for me

Upgrade my MDA Pro !

I have a german T-Mobile MDA Pro with the official T-Mobile AKU 2.0 from May 2006. Is there any stable upgrade I could apply to my MDA? Maybe T-Mobile released something officially? I read that there are already Windows Mobile 5 AKU 3.0 and later floating floating around for other brands? Where is the one for MDA Pro?

bitbonk said:
I have a german T-Mobile MDA Pro with the official T-Mobile AKU 2.0 from May 2006. Is there any stable upgrade I could apply to my MDA? Maybe T-Mobile released something officially? I read that there are already Windows Mobile 5 AKU 3.0 and later floating floating around for other brands? Where is the one for MDA Pro?
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I am currently using the Helmi’s AKU 3.5. If you are new in ROM upgrades, you may choose the Helmi’s AKU 3.3 which is more reliable.
Bdw. MDA PRO is base on HTC Universal (that is the production name)

Bulldog said:
I am currently using the Helmi’s AKU 3.5. If you are new in ROM upgrades, you may choose the Helmi’s AKU 3.3 which is more reliable.
Bdw. MDA PRO is base on HTC Universal (that is the production name)
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Agree.
Me using Helmi_c Aku3.5 v1.3 too. Performance is great except no speedial!
Also think Helmi_c Aku3.3 v1.2 is the best ROM so far except for not having Windows Live.
Works better with Radio 1.14.10, but depend of your network provider.

What is Radio 1.14.10 ?
And what do you mean with Windows Live? Does some Microsoft AKU contain already some windows live services that where promised for "crossbow" (WM6.0)? What are those? Or is this some ugly homwbrew hack?

errr... , long story, please read,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286036

bitbonk said:
What is Radio 1.14.10 ?
And what do you mean with Windows Live? Does some Microsoft AKU contain already some windows live services that where promised for "crossbow" (WM6.0)? What are those? Or is this some ugly homwbrew hack?
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radio rom
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads...io_1.14.10.rar
rom (helmi aku 3.5)
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads...KU3.5_v1.3.rar
download both of them and then get back

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Also think Helmi_c Aku3.3 v1.2 is the best ROM so far except for not having Windows Live.
Works better with Radio 1.14.10, but depend of your network provider.
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Helmi_c Aku3.3 v1.2 works better with "Radio ROM" ? Can you explain what a radio ROM is for (as opposed to a normal ROM such as Helmi's ROM" ?

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Helmi_c Aku3.3 v1.2 works better with "Radio ROM" ? Can you explain what a radio ROM is for (as opposed to a normal ROM such as Helmi's ROM" ?
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I suggest you go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286036 and download the Helmi aku3.5 v1.3. -Its very reliable and considerably faster than what you will have installed already. I strongly recommend that you back up to MS OUTLOOK before updating if you dont wish to lose your calander events or contacts.
To answer your question, the so-called 'Radio ROM' is actually an update of the mobile phone (aka radio) firmware. Helmi's package includes a previous radio firmware version which is fine. The package also includes the latest available firmware upgrade (or AKU) of the Windows Mobile 5 operating system. This firmware upgrade of the OS is not yet officially released by MS, but has leaked and has since been tweaked by such jolly fine chaps as Helmi.
By the way, you'll be quite confused by the mixed use of ROM, extended ROM, hard/cold boot, etc (eg. everyone knows that ROM = 'Read Only Memory' and that the AKU and RADIO upgrades are actually written to EEPROM or equivalent memory type). Dont worry too much about it though, the lingua franca grows on you and the support from the community is excellent
Go ahead and try to update your universal after backing it up.
Your next post should be either "WOW, thats much better!!" or "CRAP, how do I get the damned thing to update??!!"

before I actually go for an upgrade I still have some worries:
1. won't I loose the german language on my phone (keyboard, äöü, T9, UI Language) ?
2. on some screenshots I have seen a "3G" Icon, but in germany it is UMTS and I want to keep the U Icon
3. When upgrading the Radio ROM, will everything still work fine with the operator T-Mobile such as MobileTV, streaming, MMS, Videophonie or this automatic image compression service offered by t-mobile germany (automatically compresses all images on websites to save traffic).

Just to make you feel safe, you can go to your T-Mobile website, download your current ROM from there.
So even how good the new ROM is, if you do not like it, flash back the old one.

can anybody answer my 3 questions ?

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I have a german T-Mobile MDA Pro with the official T-Mobile AKU 2.0 from May 2006. Is there any stable upgrade I could apply to my MDA? Maybe T-Mobile released something officially? I read that there are already Windows Mobile 5 AKU 3.0 and later floating floating around for other brands? Where is the one for MDA Pro?
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There is NO official AKU 3 out yet for the Universal. I don't think there will ever be. ALL the AKU 3 you see here are made by members and any Universal device can use them.

bitbonk said:
before I actually go for an upgrade I still have some worries:
1. won't I loose the german language on my phone (keyboard, äöü, T9, UI Language) ?
2. on some screenshots I have seen a "3G" Icon, but in germany it is UMTS and I want to keep the U Icon
3. When upgrading the Radio ROM, will everything still work fine with the operator T-Mobile such as MobileTV, streaming, MMS, Videophonie or this automatic image compression service offered by t-mobile germany (automatically compresses all images on websites to save traffic).
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bitbonk,
As mentioned there is no official AKU 3.X for Universal.
AKU 3.X ROM’s that you find here are tailored to functionality by some brilliant guys in this forum. Indeed those are generally in English.
However if you choose to use them you will lose your German language but you may able to find batches that allows you to reconfigure. I do also believe your specific T-mobile related functionality will be lost.
in case your decide to give a try for one this available ROM’s then as CWKJ has suggested you can download you current original ROM from T-Mobil for back up
However please take NOTE this forum is for guys they like to test and develop.
I think I am using my universal more for upgrading and testing some ROM’s rather for daily usage. Therefore if you decide start to use one of this ROM’s be prepared to be infected with “XDA developers Virus”. This Virus is not infecting your device but its effecting you live
This will lead you spending most of your free time in this forum and on your device.
Instead bringing news paper to “rest room” you will bring your Universal.
If anyone tries to call you on your device, they will be not able to contact you as device docked on your computer for ROM upgrade or trying any reg. code.
Your Girlfriend/wife will start to complain: “I wish you would love me same as you loving your Universal”
So bro think carefully on what you decide :0)

LOL !!! ...
Good one.
I am trying to get my other half to be infected too.
Read somewhere in this forum, cannot remember which thread, a guy say his girlfriend complaint that he is doing too much ROM. Some other guys in this forum suggest him to give his girlfiend some RAM before continue with his ROM.
LOL !!! ...

So much of joke aside.
This are all self cooked ROMs. Our hardware maker for $ making seek unlikely to give any of us any update (only once in April 06).
1. You will lose the German Language as this is a WWE (World Wide English) ROM. But you can make a search in this forum for a forumer by name Asukal who is an expert in language. You should find some language patch (for read & write) to make up for the missing German Language.
2. "3G" is a "display only bug" in the Aku3.x which should be "U" for Voice service. For Web browsing service or Video, etc, instead seeing "U", you see "G" (a bug too).
3. UMTS/3G using this ROM with Radio image (any version, but latest official T-Mobile is version 1.13.00 and some test version 1.14.10 which seems to work pretty well with this Helmi_c Aku3.5 V1.3) have no problem with Voice Call, SMS, MMS, Video Call, Web browsing, etc. Other T-Mobile specific service (MobileTV, streaming, image compression), I think it should be in your Extended Rom, not Radio. You can just flash nk.nbf (Aku part) and Radio_.nbf (radio part) and do not flash the ms_.nbf (extended rom part).
Lastly, only after flashing, you will get all your questions answer until the day you try it.
Before flashing, backup your T-Mobile splash screen (if any) because splash screen of Helmi's ROM is O2, Indra's is imate, the other 2 I have not tried.
Remember to use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, (do not use ROMUpgradeUt.exe), to flash.
Good luck.

thank you for your help.
So maybe there is a e preconfigured ROM/radio upgrade (AKU 3.x) with german language floating around that is known to work well with german t-mobile ? Any german t-mobilers around here?

Why not go into the helmi thread and ask if someone has a compatible german language patch? You can probably set up the T Mobile stuff manually....

bitbonk said:
thank you for your help.
So maybe there is a e preconfigured ROM/radio upgrade (AKU 3.x) with german language floating around that is known to work well with german t-mobile ? Any german t-mobilers around here?
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You need to upgrade to the WWE ROM first, search got language patch to make the WWE Rom to read German Documents & Write on German Keyboards only.
Radio is language independent

kingdomraj said:
radio rom
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads...io_1.14.10.rar
rom (helmi aku 3.5)
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads...KU3.5_v1.3.rar
download both of them and then get back
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Can someone please post a link to the radio rom again?
I can't access the FTP from home anymore, I don't know why, it just times out, and I can't access the FTP from work unless I have a direct link to a file, these links are broken

AlanJC said:
Can someone please post a link to the radio rom again?
I can't access the FTP from home anymore, I don't know why, it just times out, and I can't access the FTP from work unless I have a direct link to a file, these links are broken
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http://rapidshare.com/files/6305686/Universal_Radio_1.14.10.rar.html