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Palm Threader problems wm6

When I install the Palm Threader SMS application everyone gets 5-6 copies of the same message from me over several days. Restore from backup so its not installed and the problem goes away. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how to solve it?
I am always open to new threader applications. SMS Threader, a freeware application, just doesn't quite cut it for several reasons.

It's a known issue. No fix for it... I had to uninstall it.

JuniorPhatFarm said:
It's a known issue. No fix for it... I had to uninstall it.
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Ah, OK. I searched but nothing came up. May have needed to broaden my search.
Any other solutions for threading?

diaftia said:
Ah, OK. I searched but nothing came up. May have needed to broaden my search.
Any other solutions for threading?
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Not that I know off...

diaftia said:
When I install the Palm Threader SMS application everyone gets 5-6 copies of the same message from me over several days. Restore from backup so its not installed and the problem goes away. Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know how to solve it?
I am always open to new threader applications. SMS Threader, a freeware application, just doesn't quite cut it for several reasons.
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I too had the same problem and ended up uninstalling it. Love the premise but .............. SMS threader was notgood for me either.

I've been using it for some time with no problems...at least none that anyone's told me about. I've texted myself and it only goes through once...

Palm certainly got it right with the threaded SMS and MMS.. why hasn't somebody come up with a decent solution for WM? MADNESS!

Scrog said:
I've been using it for some time with no problems...at least none that anyone's told me about. I've texted myself and it only goes through once...
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It doesn't happen all the time. But when it does your textees will let you know. Sometimes it happens hours later.

anyone else notice that it takes away the email autofill when installed? that was the only issue i had with it. like no when i go to type an email address i just have to type one letter and the autofill will pop up. when i had that installed it wouldnt pop up any more

diaftia said:
Ah, OK. I searched but nothing came up. May have needed to broaden my search.
Any other solutions for threading?
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Text Man , O2 SMS Plus

I have been using the palm one for ages. Well at least a month on WM6 and not once has anyone ever told me about multiple texts. Also i have installed it on loads of other WM6 phones and then we do the classic text each other just to make sure it is all working. Not once have these ever duplicated. I am sure if it was a problem then i would have noticed by now.
Weird

I am using it for few months now no issue...
the only problem is it do not work with jeyo any more so i loose all my SMS when i upgrade the ROM... any solution..

You can backup your messages by closing the palm app down and copying the file PalmMsgV001 from the windows directory.

rjefferis said:
I have been using the palm one for ages. Well at least a month on WM6 and not once has anyone ever told me about multiple texts. Also i have installed it on loads of other WM6 phones and then we do the classic text each other just to make sure it is all working. Not once have these ever duplicated. I am sure if it was a problem then i would have noticed by now.
Weird
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I have used it on WM5 and WM6. I have never had the same complaint when using the standard text messaging application. The fact that is happens to some and not others is just how it goes I guess.

weird though because i have not seen a prob ever on any of my phones. Not on my hermes with any of the LVSW roms, or Black 2.5 or on my universal with WM6.
I wonder whether there are dif versions of the palm app floating around.

rjefferis said:
weird though because i have not seen a prob ever on any of my phones. Not on my hermes with any of the LVSW roms, or Black 2.5 or on my universal with WM6.
I wonder whether there are dif versions of the palm app floating around.
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You may be onto something there.

Is their a build number anywhere in the Palm App?
Also, there must be an official WM6 version somewhere. Isnt there going to be a WM6 ROM in a month or so?

The most common problem of duplicated texts from the threaded app is from closing the program after you send it... im not talking minimizing it, im talking actually closing it, like with HTC X button or magic button, etc... and this isnt actually a problem with the threaded app, this is a problem with WM period.. If you close the app before the sms fully sends then the app tries again, and again, etc.. now there may be other issues, but this is the most common.

doedoe said:
Is their a build number anywhere in the Palm App?
Also, there must be an official WM6 version somewhere. Isnt there going to be a WM6 ROM in a month or so?
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there is nothing "official" about this app.

shogunmark said:
The most common problem of duplicated texts from the threaded app is from closing the program after you send it... im not talking minimizing it, im talking actually closing it, like with HTC X button or magic button, etc... and this isnt actually a problem with the threaded app, this is a problem with WM period.. If you close the app before the sms fully sends then the app tries again, and again, etc.. now there may be other issues, but this is the most common.
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Ah if that is the case I can install it again knowing why this was happening.

dash seems to be laggy

Hi
My dash seems to be really laggy lately.
Is it due to the build up of txt msgs?
I'm on 6.1 and the phone seems to be a lot slower than it was when i first got it. Any tips on how to speed things up or do i need to delete all txt msgs??

any tips please?

I forget where in the default tmo Rom is task manager, but you could always kill text messaging after you're done using it.
I updated my dash to ricky's rom maybe the 2nd day after i bought it, its got omap overclocking and i've sped up my dash that way.
Perhaps you need to see what programs that you have are running all the time (with task manager) and see if disabling/uninstalling apps would help.

im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?

Yeah, dude!!
Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
hawee said:
im running kavana 6.1 and its just recently been really laggy.
I clear my tasks and still lags. I starting to think its my txt msg logs since i txt anywhere from 2000-8000 a month and never delete any of them.
Is that the case?
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Here's another idea
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Holy, shizah!!!
That many. Not to sound like an ass, but hell yeah, that's the prob. you need to run a script that either copies these to a text file somewhere routinely, or just straight up delete these.
Let me give everyone a word to the wise. For a fact, the more messages that are unread on your phone, the worse off the battery life will be. When you have unread voicemails, text messages, email messages, you are destroying your memory and your phones battery.
If you wanna seee a noticeable difference in both memory and battery life, read and delete all old messages of any variety. This goes for non smartphones and smartphones. This is a general rule of thumb. If anyone feels the need to wax intellectual, please, kill that idea. It's a moot point. I know this to be the case, and you can argue all day. Facts are facts.
Hope this helps, man. If you need me to write you an app that eats your text messages routinely or copies them to storage or whatever, just pm me. We can figure out a solution that suits you best!! Later.
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Maybe you could try Jeyo Mobile Extender for Outlook. It syncronizes all your sms to your pc, so you can delete them from your phone and still don't lose them. Also you can send sms from outlook, so it's a little faster.
Hope it helped
Cheers

Use Chome Configurator to remove any home screen shortcuts you don't need.
That's all I've done so far, and it made it REALLY fast. No oc'ing needed.

One often over looked issue is the Notification Que, if you dont clean it out your device will slow down. I once deleted over 500kb of old entries after a month of use. Now I delete it weekly

what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?

fliparsenal said:
what do u mean by the notification que. how do i go about in doing that?
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The simple way is to use SKtools, it does pretty much everything you need as far as device hidden settings and cleaning management.

Is there any way to delete the text messages on the phone from a pc? I've been trying to delete these messages for the longest. It takes about 15 minutes for each contact's messages. I tried to delete it using menu>tools>empty deleted items but when I rebooted my phone after about 500 messages getting deleted they reappeared right back in the inbox. Im now goin to the deleted items folder and deleting all from there instead. I hope it works, but it is still slow.
outerdepth, can I pm you for that script you wrote to delete messages? I really need it.

Text messaging driving me CRAZY

ok, i just got this phone yesterday, and its AWESOME. Just one minor but VERY annoying problem tho, whenever i send out text messages, it will be displayed in the correct time, but whenever i recieve text messages, it will be 4 hours before the actual time... It seems its been set to a different time zone or something... Anyways, does anyone know how to fix that?..
Thanks.
oh and is there anyway i can find out which rom/country my phone is currently using? I bought it unlocked from a local chinese retailer, and supposedly they get all their stuff from hongkong, is there anyway to check?

anyone? bump

it depends where is the person which sends you the sms, as a matter of fact if the person is in paris ou you are in London, then the message will be displayed with GMT -1

moloise said:
it depends where is the person which sends you the sms, as a matter of fact if the person is in paris ou you are in London, then the message will be displayed with GMT -1
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hmm but all the people who txt'd me are in the exact same town as me...

bloodmage824 said:
ok, i just got this phone yesterday, and its AWESOME. Just one minor but VERY annoying problem tho, whenever i send out text messages, it will be displayed in the correct time, but whenever i recieve text messages, it will be 4 hours before the actual time... It seems its been set to a different time zone or something... Anyways, does anyone know how to fix that?..
Thanks.
oh and is there anyway i can find out which rom/country my phone is currently using? I bought it unlocked from a local chinese retailer, and supposedly they get all their stuff from hongkong, is there anyway to check?
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I had the same issue, I apply the summer time fix followed by the df_timestamp_fix.cab I attached. (Thanks to the author, it's floating in the forums if you search for sms timestamp or something along those lines if your curious to know what the cab does)
I am not sure the summer time is needed but it work for me.
The issue is with a "Trust time zone" Reg key. From what I understand, your provider applies the GMT -4 and your phone do it a second time, hence the time difference.
Hope this work as well as on my phone

wow if i was anywhere near u i would go over and kiss u, thanks a lot man! I didn't know the correct term for it was "timestamp" and i been searching all over the forum and came up with nothing. Thanks again! gonna go try it now

the unfixable unread count is even worse.
at the moment i have 8 unread SMS messages i cannot make go away. even when i use a CAB to handle this things go back to the way they were after the next text comes in.

crazy talk said:
the unfixable unread count is even worse.
at the moment i have 8 unread SMS messages i cannot make go away. even when i use a CAB to handle this things go back to the way they were after the next text comes in.
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I haven't had that problem at all and I do alot of texting! Sometimes it'll have a 1 by it when I though I read all my messages but I really didn't.
Did you try disabling touchflo from today screen in settings rebooting and then re-enabling it?

bloodmage824 said:
wow if i was anywhere near u i would go over and kiss u, thanks a lot man! I didn't know the correct term for it was "timestamp" and i been searching all over the forum and came up with nothing. Thanks again! gonna go try it now
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Hahah, I`m quite happy I am far away, but you are more then welcome.
I try to help this forum by any means I got, glad it worked.

crazy talk said:
the unfixable unread count is even worse.
at the moment i have 8 unread SMS messages i cannot make go away. even when i use a CAB to handle this things go back to the way they were after the next text comes in.
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This is annoying, I use to have it on stock rom with my TP1, the genius cook made some work around work so I haven`t been bothered since...

crazy talk said:
the unfixable unread count is even worse.
at the moment i have 8 unread SMS messages i cannot make go away. even when i use a CAB to handle this things go back to the way they were after the next text comes in.
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I only had that prob once on my TyTn2... or was it my Prophet...? Anyway, try this file. It worked for me before.

Not working.... Just tried it.

this was exactly what i was looking for.
thanks SO MUCH.
EDIT: doesnt work.

Try this
Start/Settings/Text Messaging Change to Classic and X out.
Go into your text messages and you will probably find the culprit in bold. Once you open it, that should reset the counter. Go back and switch to threaded.

First, make sure local time setting is correct (as above posts)
If still persist, try reghack; open phm regedit or resco or else, navigate to HKCU/System/State/sms/Unread, change the Count value to 0. Exit regedit, press power button to suspend your device, wait 5 secs, then softreset. Please try and feedback.

The timestamp_fix.cab did not work for me. The MTS_RecvTimeStamp.cab did the trick.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=159852&d=1235328543

This didn't work either for me.
I noticed if HTC Messeging is installed, the cabs will work, if its not, they wont work.
But HTC msging is slow.
anyone with a solution for the timestamp issue?
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The timestamp_fix.cab did not work for me. The MTS_RecvTimeStamp.cab did the trick.
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=159852&d=1235328543
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bump......
mankie said:
This didn't work either for me.
I noticed if HTC Messeging is installed, the cabs will work, if its not, they wont work.
But HTC msging is slow.
anyone with a solution for the timestamp issue?
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Slowliness of Sense in teh handling of SMS & Contacts

I may be kind f an exception and probably very few people are in my case, however I'd like to know if anybody has fuond a solution
I have more than 1,000 contacts and over 15,000 SMS. Yeah I know it's a lot but I dotn wnat to archive my SMS and I need my contacts
It was very well handled on my Hermes with Manilla 2D (Everything was quick, responsive, etc...)
With Sense, from the original one with Win 6.1 at delivery of the phone, up to Sense 2.1 and now 2.5 every upgrade has made the management of contacts and SMS slower and slower (To the extent I sometimes have to wait a minute obetween 2 operation, it's just laughable for all friends who have iphones, Nokias, etc...)
Simply put, whenever leaving a conversation within my SMS list (hitting the back button in Win 6.5.3) I have to wait a looong time. Similarly when leaving a contact and going back to the main list or clicking on a contact in the main list. When viewing a contact, clicking on the tab for conversations is also really really slow
I guess it has a lot to do with the integration at the contacts level of the different elements (Facebook, conversations, etc...) an dif I had to take a bet it would be the link to SMSs
It's making me all the more pissed off that old Manilla versions work perfectly and handle thsi very smoothly
So my question are:
1. has someone found a way to speed up the SMS application (or using another SMS application that is faster, typically the "Good old one" from pevious Manilla versions ?
2. Is there somewhere a cache or a buffer that I could increase allowing a smoother operation of the SMS application
3. Has someone managed to disable the tab (or the link) pointing on a contact to the conversations with this contact ?
Thanks a lot for your ideas & suggestions

Seriously? You NEED to keep 15,000 SMS? Just get a grip and delete them. You'd be amazed at the performance gains from just that.

KevinACrider said:
Seriously? You NEED to keep 15,000 SMS? Just get a grip and delete them. You'd be amazed at the performance gains from just that.
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I do not doubt it will be faster but I'd like to keep them
My poiunt is wioth WM6.1 and Manilla 2D it was impressively FAST on an old Hermes !

this is just a problem with win 6.5 ive been battling this for a while now. it seems its something to do with the threading and the way it indexes through the messages. if you disable threaded messages, there is no doubt you problem will go away. the problem seems to get worse with the more messages you have.

Jeyo mobile extender
Use Jeyo Mobile Extender for Windows Outlook and save all the sms on your pc. Keep less than 100o on your WM device and enjoy.
Jeyo helps you to see them date wise, sorted and sending from PC itself.

dineshh said:
Use Jeyo Mobile Extender for Windows Outlook and save all the sms on your pc. Keep less than 100o on your WM device and enjoy.
Jeyo helps you to see them date wise, sorted and sending from PC itself.
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I dont wanna give up having them on my phone
Especially since my old HTC handles them properly

The Sense 2.5 Messaging app is slow even when you have very few (like 15)text messages from a single contact. When I reply to someboday it takes like 5 or more seconds depending on the number of messages just for the input box to take focus. The speed of the HTC text messaging app is pretty unbearable, to the point that I don't event like to text messaging that much anymore b/c of it's slowness.

ScubaSteve20001 said:
The Sense 2.5 Messaging app is slow even when you have very few (like 15)text messages from a single contact. When I reply to someboday it takes like 5 or more seconds depending on the number of messages just for the input box to take focus. The speed of the HTC text messaging app is pretty unbearable, to the point that I don't event like to text messaging that much anymore b/c of it's slowness.
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It's actually with a ROM including the previous SMS client
But eyah anyway HTC has lots of work to do...

I really understand this problem becouse i also stryggel with it. My TyTn2 is alot faster and my TP2 and that is unacceptible i think.
Im totaly new in to this ROM flashing and is running original HTC 6.5 ROM. So my question is: will i overcome this problem with a flashed ROM or does these ROM just change the interface/looks on the phone or do they fix this root of the problem that is driving me totaly mad... My TyTn2 kicks ass over my TP2 in preformance. And i cant understand that out from the hardware specs... Even if i Run no Sens/Manilla(?!) an onely SPB mobile shell om mboth phones TyTn2 still kicks ass.
My TP 2 hav with Sense driving a memory use of 85-95% with no other programs running.

dzwacki said:
this is just a problem with win 6.5 ive been battling this for a while now. it seems its something to do with the threading and the way it indexes through the messages. if you disable threaded messages, there is no doubt you problem will go away. the problem seems to get worse with the more messages you have.
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Yes agreed. It happened for me only on Win 6.5 and it seems to be re-indexing the whole conversation everytime (I was away on holidays, did a few tests and came back with the same conclusion)
By disabling the threaded SMS I solved the problme (And it handles very smoothly my 20,000 SMSs...)

hilux38 said:
I really understand this problem becouse i also stryggel with it. My TyTn2 is alot faster and my TP2 and that is unacceptible i think.
Im totaly new in to this ROM flashing and is running original HTC 6.5 ROM. So my question is: will i overcome this problem with a flashed ROM or does these ROM just change the interface/looks on the phone or do they fix this root of the problem that is driving me totaly mad... My TyTn2 kicks ass over my TP2 in preformance. And i cant understand that out from the hardware specs... Even if i Run no Sens/Manilla(?!) an onely SPB mobile shell om mboth phones TyTn2 still kicks ass.
My TP 2 hav with Sense driving a memory use of 85-95% with no other programs running.
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I agree "Unacceptable" is the word that comes first to my mind (and very surprised not to see more threads about this)
It seems to be a WM 6.5 issue (I tried without Sense and I have the same issue). WM 6.1 was working perfectly for me
It might be an option somewhere in the registry. I will see if I can find it (Although I doubt it...)
That said it seems to get better with time, so I suppose it's rebuilding one way or the other the indexation bit by bit while you click on a conversation (It may very simply be that PIM backup doesn't save all the necessary information (which is normal since was created before threaded SMS clients were created) and WM 6.5 doesn't handle this as smoothly as WM6.1 did)

Lats complain (And for this I really don't know what's up, maybe it's linked to the SMS issue, since everything is linked on the contact page): opening a contact takes ages (When you have lots of them), and going back to the list of contacts from teh contact view takes... even longer
When I say ages I mean a minute or more

Totally was just going to post a thread similar to this. You simply beat me to it Yeah I noticed that for the Sense 2.1, when you go to the "messaging" tab it will say messaging but it will take like a minute to load the most recent message you received. I remember 6.1 it was instantaneous. I disabled the TF3D messaging to that it just has the windows threaded messaging but the loading time is still the same. Same goes for the contacts tab.

Look at my last post on this thread. Might be the same issue I had...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594249

I managed to live with the SMS issue (It's getting better over time... Just dont ask me why...)
Can't live with the contact slowlyness...

Alcibiade said:
I managed to live with the SMS issue (It's getting better over time... Just dont ask me why...)
Can't live with the contact slowlyness...
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I had to cut down my contact list that syncs to the phone to around 4500 (from the 6800 that I want to use). It's sluggish but acceptable. I keep an old Treo 650 in my car with the full contact list for when I need to do a lookup.
My wishlist is about ActiveSync - I wish it was faster. It takes about an hour to reload my (reduced) contact list, and if I don't keep it under 4500 it gets exponentially slower for every contact over that.

rouxdoo said:
I had to cut down my contact list that syncs to the phone to around 4500 (from the 6800 that I want to use). It's sluggish but acceptable. I keep an old Treo 650 in my car with the full contact list for when I need to do a lookup.
My wishlist is about ActiveSync - I wish it was faster. It takes about an hour to reload my (reduced) contact list, and if I don't keep it under 4500 it gets exponentially slower for every contact over that.
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I have only 1,100... Yes Activesync is slow like hell. BUT opening contacts or coming back to the main list from an opened contact is incredibly slow. More than annoying... It makes it unmanageable
I am not sure it's linked to the number of contacts though
What really sucks is old version of HTC's software dont have these shortcomings...

microsoft myphone help?

is there anyway that i can tweak or even stop it from downloadin old stuff.bc everything i send new info it dls 5000 or even more text messages.somebody help me its freezing up my fone.

what are you asking? It's very confusing from this message.

eastside770 said:
is there anyway that i can tweak or even stop it from downloadin old stuff.bc everything i send new info it dls 5000 or even more text messages.somebody help me its freezing up my fone.
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Are you saying that you want to backup/upload your texts to the MyPhone server but not synchronize-with/download-from the server?

i think you have to go online and archive it...i just started using it yesterday so take that comment with a grain of salt...

eastside770 said:
is there anyway that i can tweak or even stop it from downloadin old stuff.bc everything i send new info it dls 5000 or even more text messages.somebody help me its freezing up my fone.
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If I am reading this right.... (correct me if I am wrong)... you are deleting stuff on your phone, but it re-appears when it syncs with MS My phone...
If this is the case, there are two things you could do...
First, and less favorable of an option, Go into Sync Options (In the Menu in program) and uncheck the things you don't want backed-up or synced. This is a two edged sword though, in that it won't back up anything else in that category.
Second Option, log on to the MS My Phone website (http://myphone.microsoft.com).
Once there, log in with your Live or Passport account (the one you use to sync your phone).
Goto the catagory you want to clean out (say Text Messages).
Then delete the item(s)/message(s) you do not want.
When confirming, it tells you that this will delete it on the phone as well.
Once confirmed, it will clear it off of the phone at the next sync time.
Hope this helps.
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