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I didn't find here the pinout description of 2,5mm jack connector from XDA2.
There is stereo out, microphone in and two buttons.
I tried to buy 2,5mm connector, but it is not usable - connector itself fits to the XDA2, but the connector's body is too thick so the connector can not be fully plugged in.
So i bought some Nokia portable handsfree, which is also equipped with 2,5mm jack with four pins. So all i need is to know, how it should be connected.
I also bought a small plastic box, two 3,5mm stereo females and two little buttons. All of those things will be installed into that tiny box (plus the Nokia 2,5mm male connector). So this will work as an universal adaptor: from XDA2 to anything. I already bought big HiFi earphones with built-in microphone - it has two male 3,5mm jacks - one for stereosound, second for the microphone - so I'll be able to connect it to the XDA2 using my homemade tiny box and HiFi telephoning will become the reality ;-))
I'd also like to make a "homemade" simple car handsfree : I'll connect XDA's audio out to AudioIn on my car audio (also suitable for playing MP3 from XDA on car audio system). And I'll connect a standalone external microphone to XDA, microphone will be placed somewhere in the cabine.
Does it sound insane? Or realistic? Does anybody know the XDA2 jack pinout?
http://xda-developers.com/connectors/
this is xda1 but they are suppose to be able to use the same headphones
so it would help a bit
even though the xda1 dont support the 2 button thingy
Hey, as I trashed my cable I had to find out a little bit about the connecter
I write this from memory, so please handle with care ;-) :
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
By the way.. these pins are protect versus each other.. you'll have some tries..
Alex
The truth is that I can use the system connector instead of the 2,5mm jack.
AudioOut and MicrophoneIn pins are on the system connector as well...
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor ;-)
Or is there a difference?
Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
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Ehm..I had simply buyed a 2,5 to 3,5 Jack and cut a piece of it to fit into phone:
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Well, OK. But it is only a stereo out, you don't have a microphone in. I'd like both of them plus those two buttons (red and green phone button)...
http://pc-mobile.net/pxdaa.htm
this one have the mic but dont support the pickup and slam down of the phone
So meybe I'll make SystemConnector-to-3,5mmJack adaptor
Or is there a difference?
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well if you wanted to connect something else to the sysconnector you would not be able to connect something like charger or GPS
then imho it would make more sence using the 2.5 connection which cant be used for anything but sound anyway
Well, I am looking for such a device, but then one that will work with the XDA2/MDA2
Because I would like to use my own B&O headset, but would like to keep the phone function with microphone and answer buttons
So if somebody would like to spend an hour on the web for a detailed surch :wink:
make it your self...
takes less than 30 minutes (if you know how to use a solder iron)
I did it and I am trulty happy with it.
Alex
but is it not a problem that the lengh of the 3.5mm headset get added to the length of the wire from the device to the buttons and mic
i mean the mic need to be able to reach ones mough but the lenght from ones mouth to ones ears are not that long and with the added 3.5 mm headset lenght it would seme to become a wire mess?
Yes and No...
Yes if you do nothing.
No if you wrap it up a little.
well if you wrap the wire you will create a coil line effect
and that damage audio quality
just kidding i'm not a real audiophile
It seems that info in xda-developers.com/connectors/ is aplicable to XDA I.
XDAII headset has 2 buttons, answer and finish.
I'm specially interested in the 22pin pinout, that I've told IS DIFFERENT from the XDA I.
Can anybody point me with updated info on XDA II conneectors?
Thanks
vcp
xant give the wiring of the 2.5mm on the xda2 in this thread
about the 22pin connector then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3929&highlight=22pin+pinout
Xant said:
from top to bottom
top ring - stereo out (left or right)
next ring - stereo out (right or left)
next - microphone in
next - ground
metallic ring in the inside of the connector - phone switch
Alex
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Alex,
This is correct. The XDA II uses 5 pins instead of four. The switches are both connected to the 5th ring on the inside.
Until now, I wasn't able to find this connector.
Seems it's only used on the XDA II.
The diagram of the XDA I connector is correct, only the button isn't connected over the microphone to ground. So if you only need audio and mike, use that schematic.
Grtz,
Jos
Dear friends
I have a BA (Qtek 9090) and I have no big complaints. However, I would like to use normal headphones other than the ones supplied with the unit, I mean, with 3,5mm jack, to listen to music - and there is my problem.
The sound is not stereo, using any type of adapter from 2,5 to 3,5mm. Despite of the non-stereo sound with the adapter, it works normally with the phones with 2,5mm jack. I have tried many adapters of many brands, no luck.
Why is that? Really bad decision to use this 2,5mm in my opinion.
Please, any solutions, advices, welcome. Thanks
The problem is that it is not a standard 2.5mm socket. It is a 4 (I think) ring to allow for the microphone. Unfortunately there is even a difference between the Alpine and the BA.
Eg BA uses http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PPCPADPT16 while
Alpine uses http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119295
Have a look in the wiki, I think someone did a detailed spec of the BA jack socket.
Hello,
I’m new to this phone and forum, just getting my head round it. First problem I’m trying to tackle is the frankly awful headphones that come with the device.
Trying to find decent 2.5 mm headphones is not easy, I bought a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter but it’s a bit rubbish and loose and I’m sure it is changing it from stereo to mono. So after hours of research I’ve found some Sennheiser MM50’s. These have an integrated mic and also a 2.5mm 4 pole jack.
Now are these likely to work on my phone as I understand there are different ways that 2.5mm jacks can be wired up?
Thanks in advance.
I guess you will have to try it.
I use some Siedo headphones I got off eBay. They are not brilliant but are better than the supplied ones.
I can't find it right now but I came across this: http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=127646
It's an adpator - that is wired correctly for a HTC 2.5mm sockect and it has a built-in mic. You can plug any 3.5mm headphone jack into it. - Heck - I might get one myself!
Cheers, that doesnt look to bad. I notice that was compatible with the P900 which I think is compatible the Sennheiser MM50’s. So maybe they will be ok.
Do you know if the prophet has a standard 2.5mm 4 pole connector?
Yes, it's the usual 2.5mm 4 pole connector. There doesn't seem to be a "standard" way of wiring them though but the link I gave you should be fine.
It is NOT recommendable, for the Sennheiser MM50 headphones are made for Motorola devices/phones. HTC Prophet appears to have different wiring schema compared to Motorola and the headphones will play only from one channel - unfortunately.
I bought them recently (in spite of warnings on this forum) and was very disappointed to experience this effect. Fortunately however, I was able to give them back to the shop.
I use my old Sony Ericsson P800's headphones and the quality is waaay better. In fact the best non-professional headphones I've had till now were all Sonys.
It has to be Sony.
Have a look at Ebay. Search for SPV M600 and you may find a whole host of accessories. Or search specifically for:
Handsfree Remote/Adaptor for Orange SPV M600/M3000 PDA or
Oasis music adapter for qtek S200, SPV M600, Dopod 830
I have a similar item and it allows me to use any headphones or even connect it to my HiFi. It even has a PTT button and microphone to answer calls - imagine having a phone call routed through your home HiFi!
Hi!!!
Do you know if this one can work with prophet?
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverterwithmicrophone.php
I'm not sure...
i just soldered sony-Groove earpices to it, sounds way better!, modification was pretty easy
Can you post some pics of it?
Pepez said:
Hi!!!
Do you know if this one can work with prophet?
http://shop.brando.com.hk/htcstereoconverterwithmicrophone.php
I'm not sure...
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This one is not compatible with the Prophet. Prophet uses a 2.5mm jack while the newer HTC devices use the mini-USB connection for the headphones. The product in the link that you provided is meant for these newer devices. What you want is a 2.5mm (male) to 3.5mm (female) converter. You can find them at www.expansys.com.
Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
This may be obvious to most. I bought a usb to 2.5mm jack adapter on ebay, (it was only a few quid) then found that the radio didn't work unless I stood near the window! I thought it would use the headphone lead as the aerial, I was wrong, drat! Now I have to carry 2 sets of headphones.
its because the adaptor either doesnt have the wire for hte headset, or it only goes as far as the adaptor because theres no way you can use your headphones as an aerial as they wernt designed for that.
Take the adaptor apart, find the aerial for the antenna and extend it if you can. Saves you carrying round two pairs of headphones
Bully said:
This may be obvious to most. I bought a usb to 2.5mm jack adapter on ebay, (it was only a few quid) then found that the radio didn't work unless I stood near the window! I thought it would use the headphone lead as the aerial, I was wrong, drat! Now I have to carry 2 sets of headphones.
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You can cut off the phones and leave as much of the original cable as possible. That is what I did to my Atom and listened thru the speaker