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Any adaptors that will allow me to use proper 3.5 inch headphone jack in place of the mini USB ones ( i dont like the in ear phones) checked ebay and couldnt see anything?
you want get one of these http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142090 - Mike
Ouch, that thing is both horribly badly designed and prohibitively expensive- it's going to stick out what looks like an inch by itself, most headphone plugs will add another inch on top of that- I need something that fits flush with the bottom of the phone (comes out at a right angle) AND supplies an input for the charger. One can only dream!
The orbit would make a great on-mains Wifi internet radio if such a gubbin existed- hook up some speakers, start TCPMP, sorted!
in which case if you don't like wires stop messing around and get a set of A2DP compatible headphones - the quality is very good, but far more costly than a cable addaptor - the choice is yours - Mike
Might have been worth while if I didn't use an iPod for all my portable audio needs- have you seen any A2DP compatible speakers around?
Looks like there are hacks out there, but no official products, the combination really would just turn the Orbit into an incredibly expensive Wifi radio! But where's the fun in just going out and buying a proper one!
Have a look at the products made by Parrot there are a few Bluetooth audio add on boxes, I fail to see the relevance to WiFi?? as the A2DP profile is Bluetooth - it even works on the T-Mobile MDA-CIII which has no WiFi - Mike
I say wifi radio because I listen to internet radio stations around the house using the Orbit, and the ol' tinternet comes via the wifi doohickey!
A2DP is, of course, a bluetooth profile and would be the method over which I get decent sounding audio from the Orbit to some speakers whilst still having the Orbit plugged into mains so the battery doesn't get sucked dry... that said I think the Orbit will last a good few hours streaming internet radio, although I have yet to put that to the test.
My other solution would be, as mentioned above, an adaptor that allows both the charger AND headset to be plugged in- I can't see this as being technically impossible.
With a brief cursory investigation I have discovered, I think, that the headset uses a proprietary 6-pin connection on the opposite side of the mini-usb connector. The headphones do not use the 4-pin standard mini-usb connector on the other side, but a connector that uses both should be reasonably simple to produce. Ergo it should be childs play for a third party to produce an Artemis dock that contains not only a connection to USB but a standard 3.5mm amplified microphone socket alongside a standard 3.5mm amplified stero audio jack... not to mention a button on the front of the dock for picking up calls and a volume slider if you really wanted them.
Call me crazy, but I want one of those!
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
Dear lord! You've made my day! Hmmm, a little jiggery pokery and I might even be able to incorporate that into a dock but it'll be fantastic for charging and listening to net radio at work- takes that little extra load off my desktop PC.
Cheers!
Glad I could help
richiev4 said:
You could try this
http://www.expansys.com/htc/p_htc_item.aspx?i=145066
Might do the trick even if it is a bit long
Rich
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Hi,
Does anyone know if the above would work with a set of mini stereo speakers with a 3.5mm headphone jack (like the walkman speakers i used to have, back in the day...) to listen to the FM radio while charging the phone from mains? Or would you still need the headphones plugged into get any FM reception?
Daft question maybe, but I wondered whether the device would just use the speaker wires as an antenna instead of the headphone wires?
It will work fine, I am going to use mine to connect my orbit to my home stereo and charge it at the same time.
Rich
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
http://www.expansys.com/s.aspx
try doing a search for "2.5mm"
A very good Items for the Artemis on EbaY :
look :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/FOR-ORANGE-SPV-E...ryZ14419QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adatper
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
cegmawr said:
Hi,
Anybody know of an Artemis mini usb to 2.5mm 3 pole jack plug adapter which allows the connection to deliver audio and microphone capability ?
I would like to connet my Artemis/Orbit to the Autocom intercom system on my motorcycle . This uses a lead with a 2.5mm jack plug at the phone end and a 3.5mm jack at the Autocom system end. Both are 3 pole.
Thanks
P.S. hope you don't mind me jumping in your postings
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Is this so you can listen to music from the Orbit? I've had difficulty on my bike with this...music cuts out and wont restart after phone call is over. In the end, I bought the Autocom bluetooth dongle and now bluetooth the Orbit to the bike. I get phone calls and GPS just fine, but I use a wired iPod for music.
cegmawr said:
I think I've found exactly what I'm looking for at:
http://igonemobile.com/products/html/61315310.html
I've got one on order and I'll let you know if it works.
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Does this support the Artemis? It isn't in the list....
There was a posting for the mini USB PinOut some Time ago. Look in the wiki Section to find it. Here is what they showed up with.
Maybe This will Help someone to build their own Adapter or whatsoever.
Greetings
Jabami
so what was the general concensus with using Autocom? Did the 2.5mm jack work?
I want to avoid using the bluetooth option on autocom, since I might just as well go for a Scala bluetooth headset instead if the jack doesnt work...
Hey all,
Just thought I would post this as I have seen several other threads of people asking how to hook up a normal 2.5mm phone headset to the PPC6800 phone as it has no headset jack. It took some work, and some disappointment, but I did find a solution.
There is an HTC part number SCB6800, which oddly enough HTC has no idea about and does not sell, but UT Starcomm does. It costs about $18.50 from UT Starcomm which is the cheapest source by far. This is a Y-Adapter cable that hooks into your USB port and gives you a 2.5mm headset jack and a power connector. It even has the HTC logo on the cable so it is legit, and it works great.
I tried ordering one of these from an online vendor first and wound up getting an adapter that looks exactly the same except that it had a 3.5mm Headphone jack and a power connector, they also tried sending me a USB to 3.5mm Headset adapter too, telling me both of those were the same item.
But for those of you wanting to just use a good old phone headset that is what you want. If people wish I can post some pictures of the various adapters I ran across for comparison.
Mia
miakayuuki said:
Hey all,
Just thought I would post this as I have seen several other threads of people asking how to hook up a normal 2.5mm phone headset to the PPC6800 phone as it has no headset jack. It took some work, and some disappointment, but I did find a solution.
There is an HTC part number SCB6800, which oddly enough HTC has no idea about and does not sell, but UT Starcomm does. It costs about $18.50 from UT Starcomm which is the cheapest source by far. This is a Y-Adapter cable that hooks into your USB port and gives you a 2.5mm headset jack and a power connector. It even has the HTC logo on the cable so it is legit, and it works great.
I tried ordering one of these from an online vendor first and wound up getting an adapter that looks exactly the same except that it had a 3.5mm Headphone jack and a power connector, they also tried sending me a USB to 3.5mm Headset adapter too, telling me both of those were the same item.
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Maybe there's some confusion, but where did you find the 3.5mm headset adapter? My 6800 (Mogul) came *with* the 2.5mm headset adapter, but I can't seem to find an equivalent 3.5mm adapter (except for a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter, which would just be a pain).
Hi all,
Would it be possible to connect my TP2 to the aux 3.5mm jack on my car radio to effectively play music off my phone via the radio system?
I suppose once off a mini usb to mail 3.5mm jack cable would be required, but would this output work?
Anyone tried this?
This will work. There are loads of adaptors out there that plug into the miniUSB and give you miniUSB (for charging), headset port and 3.5mm jack. Or various combinations of these.
Just couple one of those with a regular jack-to-jack lead and you're good to go.
Alternatively, pair a bluetooth stereo clip that has a jack connector for your own headphones, then connect that headphone port to the car stereo.
Did it a few time, I can confirm you it works just fine.
I was using one of Brando regular adaptators that plug into the miniUSB.
My wife and I have done this with our kaisers and now the tilt 2's. Our tilt 2's came with the htc adapters in the box from att. If you didnt get one of these, you can get an adapter off ebay pretty cheap.
Use an FM transmitter
I use an FM transmitter (Belkin and others make these) that is powered from the vehicle "cigarette lighter". On one end is the power and on the other end is a 3.5 mm headphone plug, just like a standard pair of headphones uses.
Connect that to the headphone jack on the TP2 (via the adapter if you don't have the CDMA version), and tune your car radio to the selected frequency.
It's a very nice solution for GPS or long speakerphone calls where you don't have to say much or even speak at all. You can have a 2-way call like this, too, of course.
samuel613 said:
I use an FM transmitter (Belkin and others make these) that is powered from the vehicle "cigarette lighter". On one end is the power and on the other end is a 3.5 mm headphone plug, just like a standard pair of headphones uses.
Connect that to the headphone jack on the TP2 (via the adapter if you don't have the CDMA version), and tune your car radio to the selected frequency.
It's a very nice solution for GPS or long speakerphone calls where you don't have to say much or even speak at all. You can have a 2-way call like this, too, of course.
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I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks
carhigh said:
My wife and I have done this with our kaisers and now the tilt 2's. Our tilt 2's came with the htc adapters in the box from att. If you didnt get one of these, you can get an adapter off ebay pretty cheap.
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I also use the HTC adapter that was included with the Tilt2. It provides a 3.5mm audio jack, plus you can charge the phone at the same time by plugging a cigarette lighter to mini-USB charger to the HTC adapter.
jsaid said:
I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks
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You're just connecting the FM transmitter to your Tilt2 using a 3.5mm to mini-USB adapter, correct? You shouldn't need to adjust any setting on the phone. If headphones work with your phone, the FM transmitter should also.
You might need to scan around for an FM station that is not used, or even faintly receiving a radio station. Pick one that is just pure white noise.
jsaid said:
I also have a belkin transmitter but my tilt 2 wont connect audioto car speakers , any settings or plug and play on your ?thanks
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You responded to a post over a year old, so don't hold your breath that the person you responded to will answer.
redpoint73 said:
You're just connecting the FM transmitter to your Tilt2 using a 3.5mm to mini-USB adapter, correct? You shouldn't need to adjust any setting on the phone. If headphones work with your phone, the FM transmitter should also.
You might need to scan around for an FM station that is not used, or even faintly receiving a radio station. Pick one that is just pure white noise.
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headphone work ok , the transmitter work ok in my laptop and other phone .
I want to take an old set of headphones and cut the headphones off and make an fm antenna out of the cord and plug. Once I plug the cord in however, will it still let me use my bluetooth stero headset to listen the the radio?
ElAguila said:
I want to take an old set of headphones and cut the headphones off and make an fm antenna out of the cord and plug. Once I plug the cord in however, will it still let me use my bluetooth stero headset to listen the the radio?
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I'm not positive, but I believe that when you plug into the headphone jack, it overrides the option for bluetooth.
Not to mention, if you just cut the headphones off, there won't be a complete circuit. If the phone doesn't detect a circuit, it may not even recognize that the wire is plugged in. If you cut the phones off and twist the wires together, it would make a circuit, but MAY cause a short, potentially damaging the phone. I know the signal to the headphones is a very low voltage, but with no resistance at all, it may be enough to do damage.
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I'm not positive, but I believe that when you plug into the headphone jack, it overrides the option for bluetooth.
Not to mention, if you just cut the headphones off, there won't be a complete circuit. If the phone doesn't detect a circuit, it may not even recognize that the wire is plugged in. If you cut the phones off and twist the wires together, it would make a circuit, but MAY cause a short, potentially damaging the phone. I know the signal to the headphones is a very low voltage, but with no resistance at all, it may be enough to do damage.
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I'm not sure that's right. If I remember correctly, FM only requires a dipole antenna (single wire, ie a car antenna), and AM requires a loop antenna. Also, I know that none of my headphones create a closed circuit, that's what the little black bars are on the plugs, they separate the different connections from touching, hence you get stereo sound.
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I'm not sure that's right. If I remember correctly, FM only requires a dipole antenna (single wire, ie a car antenna), and AM requires a loop antenna. Also, I know that none of my headphones create a closed circuit, that's what the little black bars are on the plugs, they separate the different connections from touching, hence you get stereo sound.
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There are 3 contacts (The metal part between the black separations) on a Headphone plug. +Left, +Right, and -Common (Used both L and R). A Stereo Phone headset has 4 contact points ( +L, +R, Mic and -Common) The Speaker in a headphone acts as a resistor in the complete circuit from the +L to -Common and +R to -Common. While it is true that FM doesn't require a loop antenna, the Phone, which requires a headset to be used as an antenna will not recognize there is a headphone connected if there is no circuit. (If there is no Speaker between the positive and negative lead of the headphone wire)
To add to this, if you use a regular headphone, rather than a phone headset, it doesn't make a very good connection, and has very limited, if any FM reception.
With regard to the bluetooth question, all you need to do is connect to bt after you plug in the headphones. I believe the evo just outputs to the last connected item.
Why bother cutting up the headphones and then not being sure if it works. Just leave the headphones plugged on as is and connect to you bt.
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Thanks to all for you input. I was going to remove the headset because I wanted to make an antenna that I could carry in my pocket when walking without the bulky headphones sticking out of my pocket.
ElAguila said:
Thanks to all for you input. I was going to remove the headset because I wanted to make an antenna that I could carry in my pocket when walking without the bulky headphones sticking out of my pocket.
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Pick up a cheap set of earbuds. They are small enough they shouldn't be too bulky in your pocket.
This is not something new and have been shown many times in YouTube. It is interesting to have for any phone with 3.5mm audio jack that can be easily done within a few minutes. I do not use my headset with my phone so this would be a nice hack to have around to listen with your friends on some local radio without consuming your data plan and phone battery.
Find a headset that you do not need. We only want the part with the 3.5mm audio jack. Just trim it down to about 20cm in length and fold it in half and tie a knot at the end. I tied a lasso knot at the end just so I can adjust the length of the receiver later on though it may not help much in reception quality.
Tested several length from 1 meter all the way to 20 centimetres and found not much difference in reception quality for a fact that you will be using your loudspeaker to listen to the FM radio. The same with whether to loop or not to loop the receiver but looping the receiver gives it a cleaner look while maintaining the same reception frequency.
Putting your phone too close to a human body greatly interferes with the FM signal. On the other hand, placing your phone on a metal table may enhance the FM reception.
Perhaps those who have knowledge in electronics can shed some light to optimize this simple hack further.
Have fun...
I didn't know. Works like a charm !! Thank You
Doesn't work for me. When I plug in the trimmed headset cable with the ear pieces cut off, the FM App keeps asking me to plug in a headset. Works OK when I plug in an untrimmed headset and switch to speaker in FM App menu.
Is there a further trick to getting this to work? Are you using the stock FM App?
I had the same problem myself, and it stems from the fact that smartphones will interrogate any headset you plug in to check if it is suitable. There are basic stereo headphones with three contacts on the jack plug (from the tip they are left, right and ground) and should work on any phone regardless. But there are two variants of headset (i.e. those with a microphone) that use four contacts, the difference being whether they connect the mic on the third or fourth contact.
As of 2016 most manufacturers have standardised on one system (left, right, mic then ground), but there are enough older phones and matching headsets out there that use the alternative pinout scheme. For example my old Sony Xperia used L-R-G-M (the same as say Blackberry), necessitating the use of an adapter for certain accessories. My latest Z5 however, has moved to the L-R-M-G pattern, which means I can no longer use my favourite old Sony headset anymore, not even as plain headphones, the Z5 just refused to talk to them.
That explains why a dumb wire might not work with a smartphone, because it is looking for a signal loop on all four (or three) contacts to try and figure out what's been plugged into it. The solution is to short out the wires to fool the phone into thinking there actually is something on the other end. Simply bare all of the wires at the cut end of the cable, burn off the fine lacquer or cotton that is used as an insulation, then twist the wires together to short them all to the ground. Better still, solder them together and cover with a bit of heat-shrink for a proper finish.
Found some pre-made antennas in ebay, you can try searching for 3.5mm antenna. They look pretty decent. I am also looking for compatible antenna, if any, that is compatible for steven303's new headphone jack.
Edit: did some research and found that the 3.5mm steven303 mentioned is called '3.5mm 4 conductor' or 'TRRS antenna 3.5mm', you can try searching for them in ebay or look for similar ones lying around with wires long enough to be loops around to be used as antenna for new phones with the new type of head jack.
I got two item I think can be suitable for this purpose; search with the following keyword in ebay;
1. 3.5mm 1/8'' Male To Male 4-Pole 3 Ring TRRS AV Audio Extension Cable 1.2M/4Feet
2. 4-Pole 3Ring TRRS 3.5mm (1/8'') Male To Female AV Extension Cable 3FT/1M Black
I have an additional issue. I use my phone's fm radio feature with an old pair of headphones for an antenna and listen via blue tooth headphones when I'm running or just working around the house, etc. My problem is that as the phone moves around in my pocket, the movement causes the phone to think the headphones came unplugged for a second and the radio turns off. When that happens I have to take the phone out and turn the radio back on. This happens often enough that it is a pain in the neck.
A separate but related issue. With some old, non functioning headphone cables the phone doesn't think there is anything plugged into it. I am lucky in that my phone gives me the option to "Play anyway through speaker or bluetooth". So even though it thinks there isn't anything plugged into it, I do, and I have good FM reception.
Here is what I want: I want to know what to do to my old headphone wire so that my phone doesn't think there is anything plugged into it when it is, in fact, plugged in. I hope that makes sense!