Hi all,
There are any way to share the serial port COM1: for two applications running at the same time?
Thanks
Best Regards
Not real easily. There's a way if you write a drive which talks to the one serial port and presents a few vitual ports out the other end. I even remember seeing such an aplication for PocketPC once, but don't remember where.
Well guys,i am going (me and other guys who have good experience in e-circuits)to try build a USB port to the Himalaya..
Now I understand by the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors link that only the large connector have the pins for USB..
During this time,any help,new informations about himalaya's USB will be appreciated.
In fact the project "USB port" is actually at level zero. (really busy previous week)
I am trying to make this to connect especially a Mouse to XDA2
So,I really need a help from you,MattM and others..
Can someone build or convert a generic windows mouse driver to pocket pc?
Or maybe is more easy to make a serial connector for mouse?
Then does we need a pointer?
-Is this factible? or just a dream?
(Laucher Prog based on Flash like PocketWin has a Pointer add-on)
Waiting for your replyes!
Regards,Ser
i read something about it in this forum, try searching for home made keyboard or mouse & you might find some answers to the basic questions
Come on guys!
I will use the DC adapter connector and USB female connector.(You can see the photos attached)
-But first explain me closely about UDC- and UDC+ does they are for data transmission or power?
Also USB_VDD is for?
-If I connect a USB device to the XDA2 does it will give power to it?(for mouse,etc..) or do I need to connect an external power alimentation? If yes,6V?
-If I build a Serial port can you explain more about:
RS232_DCD
RS232_CTS
RS232_TXD
RS232_RTS
RS232_RXD
RS232_DTR
Maybe is simply make the serial cable like on the "Connector's Page" (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors) and attach a serial Female-Female to connect Mouses and others?
Please post your comments,suggestions,ideas.
Regards,Ser.
UDC- and UDC+ are data
USB_VDD is for power
I don't think anyone yet knows if the XDAII can work as a USB host anyway.
For rs232 you will normally only need RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD and ground.
I'm sure someone did a serial mouse program before....
Jamie
RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD are for data?
I hope someone did the program but i've searched over i-net and didn't find anything about it!
I've also read about the built-in USB port of Toshiba,some people connected their HDD and all went perfectly.
So,I hope connect a mouse will not be so hard..
Regards
Have a look here for a mouse driver http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT3401319437.html
Yeah,i've seen it before but don't sure if it will function properly,but let's take it for that moment.
Thanx!
After a short search over i-net I found the prog. that uses Toshiba for its serial devices like mouse,keyboards: Click n'type and Point n'type..let's figure more about.
OK,now I will connect the female usb to the connector like:
RED (USB_VDD +5V) to Pin 13
GREEN (UDC+) to pin 14
GOLD (UDC-) to pin 15
BLUE (GROUND) to pin 16
Correct me if it isn't.
But I can't find a scheme of the connector that I will use,I can't understand which is the pin 1..2..
Can someone give me help about?
Thanx to RUDEGAR that provided me the link,http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html
I have the USB drivers and pointer for Mouse,also support for Mass storage.
i have disambled this connector 2 times
let me look it up for you
[UPSIDE]
[1] [5] [9] [13] [17] [21]
[3] [7] [11] [15] [19]
---------------------------------
[4] [8] [12] [16] [20]
[2] [6] [10] [14] [18] [22]
[DOWNSIDE]
now the upside is when you hold the connector flat and you see the 2 cutout lines in the plastic wich goes into the xda
topleft from that is pin 1
Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
-XDA2 does not give power to the usb device (tryed with a optical mouse)
(N:we verified with a VoltMeter and all cables seems to be ok)
-Also the DeJe Drivers (originally built to Toshiba) don't work. But the driver's are compatible with all WM2003 OS..
-I verified that on my pc(Win XP) when I connect the Optical mouse,it will no give power to the device once it load the drivers,so I guess maybe the same on Pocket Pc?
What do you think about?
-Probably I will build a Serial Cable for the Mouse
Regards, Ser
have you tryed a usb pen yet.. I see you mentioned storage before
yes,in fact I have't installed the Mass storage drivers for a Pen Drive,etc..
But I verified that no led (on pen drive) and no optical light was lightening so is easy to understand that XDA2 don't gives power to the USB devices... :?:
would they light anyway ? do they only light when the correct drivers are used and its told to light. I think it would be a awesome idea to add usb to the xda.. you could then use it for loads of other things..
unapproachable2kx said:
Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It cannot work. Never will.
There are two different types of USB devices: hosts and clients. You can only ever connect a client to a host. Connecting client to client does not work. It's a bit like two people picking up the phone, none of them dialing a number, but still hoping they'd get connected. Not going to happen.
All USB mice are USB clients. The XDA II also is a USB client. The USB chip in the XDA II can only handle being a client. It does not support host mode, so no software in the world can change the XDA II to a USB host.
So, connecting a USB client to an XDA II will never work.
For serial communication (RS232), there is no such problem, so it may be possible to connect a serial mouse to the XDA II. The first thing you have to make sure is that the voltage is correct. "Normal" RS232 uses +12V/-12V, whereas most small devices (and quite likely also the XDA II) uses 0V/5V. You may have to add a MAX232 (or compatible) level shifter chip to your cable.
I strongly suggest you search the 'net for RS232 and read as much as you can find. If you just experiment with cables without really understanding the implications, you might damage your XDA II.
Once you sorted that out, make sure you connect all the handshake lines your mouse uses. I would imagine that some mice may need at least the DTR line assigned before they will start doing anything.
After that, the rest is software. Your driver will have to a) pick the correct baud rate, b) drive the handshake lines correctly, and then c) it can start receiving data.
Good luck!
Daniel
well there are CF cards which have usb master support
and with the backpack the xda2 can use CF cards
of cause the driver issue could be troublesome and i'm
not sure about the speed dec going that interface to interface way
but i would not rule out that it could work
with the right drivers mind you
How about connecting a serial to USB convertor to the serial port on the XDA II?, surely that would leave you with a USB host port that you could plug a mouse into?
In this case is more simple to connect serial mouse to the serial port.
Dunno if how u tell the usb will work.. :?:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=113389
Would this do the trick?
It says host ports, can the XDA2 handle it?
Hi
i am sure for alot of people out they have searched for something to make their usb devices work on a pocket PC. i have gathered some information with regard to this topic and i hope that other users will add to it so that there is a greater awareness and mayb it will help someone figure out the best way to create 1 for the PPC
right now the there is no external USB host controller for pocket pc.
the reason we need the USB host is so that we can connect external USB devices. but i believe that we also need to load the drivers for devices as well.
wat i think is the way the device should work is the usb host for ppc should have drivers built into it so that when u connect a flash drive for example it can identify it and then send the necessary info into the PPC so that the PPC will then handle it in the correct manner. thereafter on the PPC we will probably find it as an additional drive.
I think that connectivity will actually work via the SDIO and not via the USB port.
If there are any other senior members that can elaborate on this it will be great, it will shed some more light on this feature.
I personally would love to have this feature, not for any specific external device but just the ability to have interoperability with all my usb devices onto my PPC.
reo
there are usb host CF cards i believe
not sure if anybody ever made to test in a himalaya backpack which have a CF card
thing with usb devices is that usb mass storage one 1 generic driver
so one for external hd's sdreaders and usb keyring would be enough
CF USB host
Hi
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
do you think that it can be converted from CF to SDIO ?
I actually searched for a CF to SDIO converte but no luck, however even if i do find it what are the chance that it will even work!!
anybody knows more about this ?
reo
it could easy brake because of the size diff
another problem is it would require 2.5watt to power a usb host
not sure if the sd interface can provide that kinda power at all
ok, but considering that we can overlook these obstacles will the converter actually allow for the CF USB to work ?
do you no where i can find a CF to SDIO converter ?
Ridi
I've got a question about "USB Host" as well... I read somewhere, that some processors are capable of USB Host but the companies didn't do the wiring in their devices. and of course the drivers are missing in Win CE.
So my question is: Can I connect USB-Devices to my PDA if I build a USB-wire where I inject 5V from outside and run linux on my device with USB-support built in the kernel?
Does anyone tried this Program?
http://htc-blackstone-100.handster.com/software.php?id=3339&for=HTC+Blackstone+100
Just found it by accident and don't have a fitting cable
It's look like a fake, because: http://htc-unexisting-model.handster.com/product.php?id=3339
Bluetooth
On the Teksoft homepage there's a driver for bluetooth input too, seems to work in the demo videos?
Teksoft BlueInput and Dell Mouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEoQWN9gzHc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdUQZxZLoQ
Has anyone tried this and found it to work / not work.
I want to connect a Leica Total Station (Surveying Equipment) (http://www.leica-geosystems.com/uk/en/lgs_67104.htm) to my Blackstone and use the Leica "Pocket Instrument Explorer" to get the two talking to each other.
On the PC the computer and instrument are connected with a Prolific USB-Serial Converter cable on a standard male Type A USB.
I have a USB Type A to USB Minin converter to physically connnect the Blackstone to Instrument. The software (which, has installed fine and seems to work) has all sorts of settings for COM3 and COM4.
I know that the USB on the Blackstone is not a HOST but I suspect that this is the case on many PDAs and if the case I see no reason why Leica would develope the software if there is not a way to connect them.
Anyone who wants to try this will need the PIE software which is a locked download for Leica Members. I will email a copy to you if desired but do not want to post it here for general distribution.
Im trying to use CDMA workshop on my EVO and I cant seem to get HW Virtual Serial Port version 2.5 to create a com port. I keep getting ping reply failed port not created. I never had a problem with my rhodium but this EVO is being a pain.
Can anyone walk me through opening a Com port for the EVO? im running windows 7 home 32bit if it matters...
thanks
so no one knows how to open a com port for the evo?
If you put the phone in diagnostics mode the computer will ask you for a driver for the serial port (COM) which later you can use for CDMA
WS. So you might be misding one of the two: diag mode or port driver.
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I have the Diagnostic drivers, which one is diagnostic mode? is that volume down and power? or ##3424#?
I know I have all my drivers. but what is the port driver?