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Hello,
So I want to upgrade once again my BlueAngel, but as far as I understand, the upgrading doesn't delete the registry. I want to delete it manually, how should I proceed? And how do I hide the Storage? I remeber I unhided it, but now I want to put it back, to hide it and to get my BlueAngel like new
Any ideas? Thanks.
...where did you get your info from?
A ROM up/downgrade will DELETE everything on your device, including register and ExtendedROM (i think that's what you mean by Storage)...
Info from...
It was a deduction. I upgraded 3 days ago to WM2005, but decided to go back to WM2003se, because of the speed. Updated radio/rom/ext_rom and today, while cheking files, I discovered in /Storage the old 2005 windows folder, even a screeshot I took while I was on WM2005.
So not everything was erased during a complete install of wm2003se.
What do you think?
...you've got me...i dunno...i'm speechless. Someone else any idears?...
I haven't played with a blue angel in a while but as I recall, after it hard resets from the upgrade, you press one of the buttons on the left side to enter a menu from which you can wiope everything clean. I forget the details but they're available with a quick search of this site and/or the wiki.
I searched all the threads containing tomtom and WM6. I have a legitamate copy of tomtom that came with my german o2 orbit. i just put bepes wm6 on my phone and have been trying to figure out how to get the tomtom program back on it. i looked through all the files and options on my tomtom home and on the cd it came with but nothing other than the option to install the maps (already there) seems to be present. am i retarded? (dont worry I can take an honest answer) or is there no straight forward way to get this back on my phone without changing back to another rom?
Just run the cab file on your memory card. Thats what I did and it worked.
Tried that, I knew I would have some issues with this so I made sure to look everything up before the upgrade. When I try to run any of the files on my card it tells me there is no application to run the software. I am downloading the 'taster version' of tomtom for the 3600 form HTC right now, I will see if that does the trick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=312043
Had the same issue, as alway the forum to the rescue
OK, that worked, now how to get it to show on the today screen...option is not in the today menu option.
I used a borrowed IMEI to get this off of HTC's website.
Anyone want a copy of this?
http://rapidshare.com/files/38732581/htcp3600-TomTom_Navigator6_HOME.zip
So, some of you have this error, some dont. So lets try and figure it out. Heres what we know.
The problem affects ALL Artemis WM6 ROMS.
Remember, the issue doesnt appear when just using it normally. Its only under certain circumstances. Heres how you re-create the problem.
Run Tomtom, this causes the error90% of the time.
Create a new word document and try to save anywhere.
Heres my setup and what ive tried to fix it.
Device: MDA Compact III
SD Card: 1gb
Ive tried font cache size, system cache, removing the memory card.
Please dont post "I dont get the error" if you havnt tried running tomtom or saving a word document.
Thanks
To add to the problem re-creation, I was trying to copy a directory with around 15 files in it from the internal memory to the storage card, the message just kept popping up for all the duration of the copy process, I stoppped clicking ok eventually. I looked at the free program mempry available then and it was pretty good at around 22mb.
Device: Orbit XDA
SD Card: 1gb
I too have noticed that looking at the free storage space seems to fix it for tomtom (but not word). There is something else wrong with Excel in that the "Save As" is in the wrong place, infact where it is isnt actually save as.
You're right, I haven't noticed this before with excel. I can't remember if it was like this before, was it? It won't be easy figuring this little memory issue out. I hope someone has a trick up their sleeves.
I have the WM6 emulator running on my pc and the excel thing isnt there. Comparing the registry settings on the emulator with my device. I would love to hear if anyone does actually have Word working without issue.
BREAKTHROUGH!
OK. I installed the original Orbit rom and... IT WORKS!!!! So the question is what did bepe and the guys do when they de-branded it? The orbit rom has an Ext-Rom with a load of branded stuff PLUS! some patches. I bet one of these patches fixes the issue!
These custom roms have NO Ext-Rom at all, hence the increased storage space. however in the process of removing the ext rom they have managed to cause these memory errors.
So guys, any chance of a rom close to the Orbit rom but with the English language and Ext rom left in tack?
Great work mate, it is the removal/merging of the extended rom that's causing the problem then. Maybe it's not even a patch in the extended rom, maybe it's the way the extended rom was merged that's causing it. This surely deserves more looking into.
Great breakthrough
Word FIX!
Thanks to pvdhelm for the tip on this one. Attached is a patch to fix the memory issue with word (and only word). To fix it for other apps you need to view the memory in the control panel and click on "Storage Card". The word fix is pernament but the other memory issue it only until you reset your phone.
Absolutely brilliant, so it looks like missing registry entries!! We need to find out what was in the original extended rom then to find out if we're missing anything else. Looks like only me and you here, you should post this fix in the main threads mate.
Cheers and well done.
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
Maybe this is a clue for you all. I have never had these errors, ands I use Tomtom daily and have tested word for you again with no fault.
The difference? Well I upgraded to WM6.0 the original way before USPL patch and flashed the OS only. I'm assuming you with problems used the ROM installer method. Am I right with my assumption? If so that should narrow down the culprit.
I used Bepes original WM6 WWE OS only upgrade, therefore the Ext ROM on my device is still the old T-Mobile WM5 one and was simply not allowed to run. So it can't be right to assume there is something missing from an EXT ROM patch.
It's most certainly the extended rom being merged then, there's nothing else to it.
gajet, can you give me the exact steps you took. I went from the T-Mobile rom to Black and blue then to the others. I uses USPL first though.
Can you give me a quick set of steps you took i.e Original T-Mobile rom, then ran USPL, then updated to Bepes.
Also, if you used bepe's can you also tell me which rom update util you used? as the one ive tried has errors at the end.
Thanks
dannyoneill said:
I have a copy of the rom, tried isntalling it all but to no avail. It looks like on boot up the system thinks it has a different ammount of ram due to the ext rom being merged. By displaying the ammount of storage it realises it has a different ammount and fixes it. Until the next reboot. So if anyone knows what changes when you view the storage that may be fixing it I would love to know.
Or if somone can make a rom with the ext rom still in place.
EDIT: Heres one just for the MDA Compact III without WiFi users. It applys the Word memory errror fix but also fixes the Comm Manager issue and does so just for the MDA as it removes WiFi from the list.
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VERY interesting reading!
If you move this thread, please drop a link on here for us, thanks. The first one to crack this problem will be worshipped from afar I am sure!!
I think it could be an order of upgrade issue, heres the latest.
1. Downgraded to T-Mobile WM5 rom
2. Ran USPL
3. Upgraded to Bepe WM6 using the EXE version
The word issue is no longer there but the out of memory in Tomtom is. Also no ext rom.
It would be good to know from others and gajet what steps they took and which files they uses to do it. Especially as gajet still has his extended rom.
I've tried:
official t-mobile wm5 to german wm6 to bepe uspl &
official t-mobile wm5 to bepe uspl
Both times I have had the error with tomtom but no problems with word.
Both times temp fix (looking at storage) worked (sorry about font cache red herring - thought I was onto something there).
Just tied chi-tai extended battery plugin with the storage showing on the homepage (as a way to force system to get correct memory) but no joy.
I have htc touch com manager and phone skin but not the home plugin.
Cheers
Matt
I think Ive cracked it. Just doing some final testing but watch out for a new "How to" thread.
go Danny go.
Look forward to seeing it.
Will test and report back once you've posted.
Cheers
Matt
Sadly the original thread was edited to reflect the OS update was repackaged but eddie2k still goes on the reexplain the process in this thread.
eddie2k said:
then use winrar to unpack the (bepe) wm6 wwe rom in this page (written in red). flashed using bootloader method.
after u get german rom installed , run ARTE os flash utility from xda ftp (log in properly) link don't work if not logon properly..
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Artemis/arte.zip unpack
copy os.nb from first folder (bepe) wwe rom to arte folder and rename os.nb to windows.nb then run UpgradeRom.bat
hard reset, soft reset done.
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Now I didn't bother installing the german O2 release as my MDACIII was CID locked, so I just used ARTE package with Bepes WM6 .nb renamed and flashed the OS only, then after hard resetting, at the point of about to load EXT ROM soft reset.
This thread was also the guide although you could skip the process of extracting the .os from a ROM package as Bepe originally provided us with the raw windows.nb file.
Thanks gajet, Ive just posted the steps. Your post was deffinatly the key. Once I saw you still had your ext rom I knew we could do it.
Answer is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313486
Hi everybody,
I'm stuck trying to upgrade my TyTn to WWE WM6 (HTC_TyTN_WWE_3.54.255.3_6275_1.48.00.10_108.exe).
After following all the steps of the upgrade wizard, the screen of the Tytn goes black and subsequently the ActiveSync connection is lost. After a while i then get the dreaded "ERROR [260]: CONNECTION".
I am running the original ROM (ROM 1.18.255.3) , and active sync 4.5 on Windows XP SP2. I downloaded the WM6 upgrade directly from HTC website after properly registering my device.
I even tried upgrading to SPL version is 2.10.olipro, but i still get the same behaviour.
[EDIT] Another thing i noticed is that when launching the upgrade executable, when it "veryfies informationj on my computer", if the TyTn is already connection via ActiveSync, it automatically resets into bootloader (4 colors window) and i am forced to perform a soft reset before re-trying the upgrade.
Could anybody help me out here?
Thx!
few people have seen this - no solution as yet.
Best workaround is to use the SD Card update method. No USB connection required.
todd_jg, could you please point me out to a procedure for upgrading to WM6 via SD card?
Thank you in advance.
dondobert
There is a description in the WIKI, just go HERE for instructions on how to flash from SD card.
Best wishes
I'm having the same exact problem....
I'll try the SD card method I guess. I'm suspecting it has something to do with how activesync recognizes my phone, because when I just sync normally it doesn't do it as well as previous phones, for example when I plug in the phone it wont auto recognize, I hafta manually start active sync on my computer before it starts.
this is because the usb port in the device is crap...it gets worn and then the cable gets lose....im having the same problem ,it is a nitemare...new usb cable sometime fixes the problem.i have tried 7 new cables the same happens. it gets so bad tha you will be unabled to charge the device,im afraid we got to send the device to htc for repair.
Still nothing...
Just tried for a few hours to perform the upgrade via SD card... but no way!
After reading various threads on the forum i think i tried every tweak and twist in order to have the upgrade via SD card method work (made sure the SD card is formatted as FAT32, not corrupted and with only the HERMING.nbh on it; tried also with SSPL-HERM.exe; etc.) but still no success at all.
Like other users i read of, after entering bootloader, my TyTn just sits there and the only way to proceed is to perform a soft reset.
Any idea?
Has anybody who has the USB upgrade problem been able to succesfully upgrade with the SD card method, or does there seem to be some kind of connection between the two failures?
Thx
@dondobert -
i assumed, you have already tried to uninstall and re-install ActiveSych 4.5 and recreate the synch profile.
OR
try this -
#1. on your phone device goto start-settings-connections-USB to PC
and set the tick mark to Enable advanced network.
#2. synch your device via ActiveSync
#3. do your upgrade OS or Radio
#4. once you are completed the install, undo #1.
Note 1: only do the above steps if you are having continously encountered the lost connectivity to ActiveSynch during the OS or Radio upgrade.
Note 2: your device must has either HardSPL Olipro method or SuperCID
The best way I have found to work around error 260 is
First disable Antivirus software
Next Go into Windows Firewall then exception tab, and search for "Windows Mobile-based Device Connectivity". Check it as an exception.
For the people who use Microsoft Live OneCare,
Go to "Change OneCare Settings" then go to the "Firewall" tab then click the "Firewall Connection Tool" . Make sure the Active Sync/Windows Mobile Device Center is checked on
Good luck
Let me know if this works
dondobert said:
Just tried for a few hours to perform the upgrade via SD card... but no way!
After reading various threads on the forum i think i tried every tweak and twist in order to have the upgrade via SD card method work (made sure the SD card is formatted as FAT32, not corrupted and with only the HERMING.nbh on it; tried also with SSPL-HERM.exe; etc.) but still no success at all.
Like other users i read of, after entering bootloader, my TyTn just sits there and the only way to proceed is to perform a soft reset.
Any idea?
Has anybody who has the USB upgrade problem been able to succesfully upgrade with the SD card method, or does there seem to be some kind of connection between the two failures?
Thx
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I had this problem, and managed to upgrade with my SD card just fine. In fact, my upgrade died and the device was stuck on bootloader mode.
The SD upgrade method is so reliable I may just do it now for every upgrade.
@dondobert -
on your reply post #8, you have mispelled on the HERMING.nbh file name. it should be HERMIMG.nbh
please verify the file name on your SD card, and rerun the SD procedure.
I had the same 260-error. Fixed:
- Did a "Clear Storage" (factory settings)
- Did all the "settings up your new device"-stuff.
- Did new active sync to computer (vista)
- Flashed just fine from original exe. (And i do have olipro SPL)
I have problem and resolved
Hi I have a same problem but, i just try to upgrade with mobile in boot mode and appears the error, but when connect normally mobile to pc and start upgrade error dissapear, and upgrade full, schap's spanish and radio 1.50 try this method cheers
Had the same problem and got it working
You need to set you TyTn in bootloader (4 color screen) mode and then connect it to the computer. then start loading the WM6 and you should be fine. I had done it using Schaps wm6 and it worked fine...
good luck.
Hi there ...
I had the same Prob with error 260 ...
- After i disabled the "USB-TO-PC" extendet function
- Reboot the PC
- Soft Reset my Vario II
ist works, but i don't know why
I hope it will work on yout decive to ... CU No.Trace !!!
Successful!!!
Thank you all for the great support!
For all of those out there still struggling with the problem, for me it finally worked following hellomotto's suggestion.
Regarding otoro_315 remark: yes, my mispelling int he post, file name on SD card was indeed HERMIMG.nbh.
Thank you all again!
Cheers
Had exactly the same problem. Resorted to SD upgrade - went very smoothly (Official Cingular WM6). However, will keep these suggestions in mind for the future.
I think the SD upgrade probably also eliminates some possible points of failure. According to wiki instructions, SD must be erased except for the img file - takes a bit to transfer 2G to/from SD. Don't know if this is a must - but didn't want to take a chance. Might just buy a cheapie SD just for upgrades.
One more for the SD card method. Extremely quick too ...I was really amazed that a 45MB ROM would flash in less than 5 minutes.
And it worked fine for me WITHOUT even formatting the SD Card first, I just pasted the extracted .nbh file to the root folder and loaded the SSPL file.
You mean the SD card was not erased and there were other files on it? (You don't say that explicitly).
I too was amazed at the speed - the wiki said it takes about 30 minutes - when it indicated complete in less than 10 min, I let it alone for about 15 min. because I thought it was going to do something else!
consul said:
One more for the SD card method. Extremely quick too ...I was really amazed that a 45MB ROM would flash in less than 5 minutes.
And it worked fine for me WITHOUT even formatting the SD Card first, I just pasted the extracted .nbh file to the root folder and loaded the SSPL file.
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Hi, my bluetooth does not seem to work on the device. If I reset it i get the error message on start up saying 'BTTRAYCE' is not a vlaid Pocket PC application. Is my unit faulty. I have thought about doing a hard reset on the device but wanted to check with you guys if there is a simple fix, the unit needs replacing? or if the hard reset would work. If I was to do the hard reset what can I use to backup all my contacts with there facebook links etc and will the facebook links still exist?
Bladesharp said:
Hi, my bluetooth does not seem to work on the device. If I reset it i get the error message on start up saying 'BTTRAYCE' is not a vlaid Pocket PC application. Is my unit faulty. I have thought about doing a hard reset on the device but wanted to check with you guys if there is a simple fix, the unit needs replacing? or if the hard reset would work. If I was to do the hard reset what can I use to backup all my contacts with there facebook links etc and will the facebook links still exist?
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You can use a program called Sprite Backup, although its not free. That will backup a lot of things, but to be honest, its probably best to start from scratch as it backs up all registry changes too, which could be the problem for you.
My bluetooth works fine, what part are you having trouble with?
Bluetooth Issues
I am having the same problem.
I have narrowed it down to tomtom installation (no bluetooth issues until tomtom is installed)
I have tried with TT7 910 9185 as well as TT7 445 and after the reboot the same error occurs.
I have also tried installing it on the memory card, and hard resetting it, however, the TomTom doesn't appear to talk to any Satellites.
I installed Tomtom 7.910.9185 and it says "Unable to start. Not enough memory" or similar. I installed it from cab on my 8GB Storage Card in the same way that worked perfectly on my Raphael.
The point of telling you that is my bluetooth is still working perfectly.
As for you Bladesharp, surely if you Activesync all the relevant links and details will remain with your contacts? I'd say a hard reset will determine if it's a hardware issue.
rb14 said:
I installed Tomtom 7.910.9185 and it says "Unable to start. Not enough memory" or similar. I installed it from cab on my 8GB Storage Card in the same way that worked perfectly on my Raphael.
The point of telling you that is my bluetooth is still working perfectly.
As for you Bladesharp, surely if you Activesync all the relevant links and details will remain with your contacts? I'd say a hard reset will determine if it's a hardware issue.
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I'm on 7.915 for TomTom and don't have the issue.
Links to Facebook won't transfer with Active Sync, they are stored somewhere seperately on the phone and are not part of the Contacts program in pOutlook.exe, they are part of Manila which is not transferable. Not sure where it is stored, have been looking now for about 2 months
I came across something similar to this last week after installing TomTom from a CAB, and found this post on a related issue...
http://www.noeman.org/gsm/trash-section/65951-tomtom-7-bluetooth-problems-sorted.html
I deleted the two bluetooth files (BtSdKCE30.dll & BtCoreIF.dll) from the TomTom CAB as described, did a hard reset and reinstalled, and haven't had the problem since. Could be the same issue?
Could someone who has not installed TomTom please post the dates of their BtCoreIf.dll & BtSdkCE30.dll? Mine are both 04/24/08 20:10.
Does anyone know if it is possible to revert to the ROM version of these files WITHOUT doing a hard reset?
If some kind person was able to provide me with the ROM version, can I just overwrite the ones in RAM?
R
These came from my device's \Windows directory, and are dated 14th May. I think they are unaffected by this problem, certainly I don't get the boot delay or BTTray boot crash that seem to be the possible symptoms of this. (Use caution, of course; backup what you can before tinkering in case of disaster.)
Sounds the same as my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522373
someone already tried the above files? will it correct the problem?
Thanks for the files.
I am happy to confirm that installing the two DLLs gets BTTrayCE.exe working again.
I just renamed the 04/24/08 versions to .was and use Total Commander to copy the files from my storage card to \Windows and rebooted the phone... ActiveSync wouldn't let me copy them directly from my PC as it said there was already a 05/14/09 version there and it was read-only!
As it rebooted, it complained that BtCoreIf.dll was from an unknown supplier but I just OK'd that and everything is fine. Bluetooth & TTN working.
R.
PS Didn't need to copy BTTrayCE.exe as this had not been overwritted.
Ah, thanks for letting me know. I wasn't sure if the exe was also needed, I only included it since one of the symptoms I was getting was that this wasn't a valid executable; but I guess that was just caused by the corruption of the dll's.
I don't think the DLLs are corrupted, just an earlier version.
Just like the bad old days of Windows 3.1 where installing one package would break others due the installing of different versions common DLLs. Gosh, I feel old!
R.
dicko99 said:
I don't think the DLLs are corrupted, just an earlier version.
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Ah yes; that makes more sense! I still had a boot delay even with the files from the most recent TomTom version I could find.
Hi there,
i had the same Problem with TT. In my case I also copyed the BTTrayCE.exe. Now I dont get any error anymore but the Bluetooth can still not be started. Can somebody please upload the Original BTTrayCE.exe. Thank you
I did a reset of my Swisscom German Device. Copyed the 3 BT Files and installed the TT7 v7.910.9185 again. After restart of my Device the same BT Error. I replayced the 3 Files with my Original ones and restarted again. New Error comes up "Bluetooth Stack can not be started"
zizzo
Thanks guys a lot. Rewriting those two files solve the problem. Bluetooth works now.
ianjd said:
These came from my device's \Windows directory, and are dated 14th May. I think they are unaffected by this problem, certainly I don't get the boot delay or BTTray boot crash that seem to be the possible symptoms of this. (Use caution, of course; backup what you can before tinkering in case of disaster.)
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Thanking you very much kind sir. I unzipped these files directly to my storage card in USB mode and just double clicked the exe file and it fixed my bluetooth up for me. (good job as I am a technical biff when things get registry level)
EDIT sorry I thought it did but it didn't just fix it by double clicking the exe. I've hard reset now as I don't really know what I am doing
As said in the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522373&page=4
There is no need to replace the two files.
Just delete them and soft reset. They will be replaced with the two right ones.
Bluetooth problem with TomTom resolved!
matrixis2day said:
I replayced the 3 Files with my Original ones and restarted again. New Error comes up "Bluetooth Stack can not be started"
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I had the same and here's what I just discovered and what worked:
I removed the files and expected them to be replaced upon restart. When I checked I noticed a file in the \Windows directory named BtSdKCE50.dll - I had not noticed this before. I (re)moved this, rebooted again and now Bluetooth and FM Radio (!) are working, yay!
hth,
TA2
This fixed my problem. Couldnt delete the old files but copied the replacements over the top and that sorted it. My version of Tom Tom wont work stil but it is 7.5 I think.
I've had exactly the same problem I've tried overwriting the dll's with the files provided in this thread,
Now whilst I don't get the error message, when I try and enable bluetooth, I get "cannot start bluetooth stack" error
Any ideas peeps?